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Does any of yours hd2s make weird sound when you tap on them? Like there's something loose in the upper end of the device.. I guess it has something to do with back speaker.. It makes the sound even when I put it on the table.. It's nothing serious, but it makes me wonder what is wrong with it It's like piece of plastic hit another piece of plastic.. :s
Only bottom hardware keys are a bit loose, and that applies for all units. But other than that, all should be nice and firm, no sounds.
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Nope, only the sound of my ninja quick fingers tapp'in that screen. Sounds like you do actually havee something loose in your device. : /
it's not like when i just use the touchscreen, but when i tap it with my fingers around the area where camera is.. on the backside.
[^IcEmAn^] said:
it's not like when i just use the touchscreen, but when i tap it with my fingers around the area where camera is.. on the backside.
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I get it too, but it's so slight that I imagine it's just the shutter. It's not rattling round or anything - just loose enough to be able to move when needed.
exactly. thanks =)
Nope, i just almost had my whole face down to listen carefully, but mine makes no loose sound in any way.. strange.. in a good way tho..
Kjohnsen said:
Nope, i just almost had my whole face down to listen carefully, but mine makes no loose sound in any way.. strange.. in a good way tho..
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Your shutter must be fused. I'd send it back to HTC for repair lol
The volume key on the side moves slightly and so do the buttons on the front, it's probably these which rattle from time to time.
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The volume key on the side moves slightly and so do the buttons on the front, it's probably these which rattle from time to time.
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The volume keys on mine are rock solid, and I can only move my hardware buttons by actually touching them and moving them - they don't move enough to rattle.
I agree with the OP - there's a really tiny (insignificant) rattle from around the camera area. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's anything wrong or worth worrying about.
johncmolyneux said:
The volume keys on mine are rock solid, and I can only move my hardware buttons by actually touching them and moving them - they don't move enough to rattle.
I agree with the OP - there's a really tiny (insignificant) rattle from around the camera area. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's anything wrong or worth worrying about.
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There is a varying build quality to these handsets. You sound to be one of the lucky ones but I've had two now and one had a loose volume button, as does my mate's. The depth of the recess with the screen fit and the front keypad wobble and how tactile the keypress is also vary in quality.
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There is a varying build quality to these handsets. You sound to be one of the lucky ones but I've had two now and one had a loose volume button, as does my mate's. The depth of the recess with the screen fit and the front keypad wobble and how tactile the keypress is also vary in quality.
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Yeah - I should have made it clear that I wasn't saying those issues don't exist, but that they don't for me, but I get what the OP is getting at.
In my humble opinion, there is a major design "fault" with the aluminum casing used and it's pretty severe one at that. For me, this makes me think about taking the phone back and getting a refund (yes I can, even after I've used ut).This is the sort of thing Apple would never allow. Now I'm NO Apple fanboy, rather a HTC/Android Phanboy, so hold those horses......
But, ever notice the sharp edge surrounding the top of the HTC? It's quite annoying and prob would get slightly painful in longer conversations.
Now, all they would have to do, was to try the phone and they would notice. It would only take slightly more beveling of the edge. Try holding the phone the wrong way, spreaker to your ear. THAT'S the way an edge should feel against your ear. It's like there's nothing there!
the edge is noticeable and yes it is a annoying but its easy to cope with just dont press it hard against your ear and your fine. What i hate more is the low calling volume in noisy environments its impossible to phone anyone and then the edge does hurt when you try to press the speaker against your ear
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the edge is noticeable and yes it is a annoying but its easy to cope with just dont press it hard against your ear and your fine. What i hate more is the low calling volume in noisy environments its impossible to phone anyone and then the edge does hurt when you try to press the speaker against your ear
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Thing is, it shouldn't be like this. It would have been easy to notice this pre-production and it would have been easy to fix. Small things like this ruin a GREAT phone......that and those damn lost wifi signals!
No one mentioned it for a month, so it can't be that bad. Maybe your ear is not compatible with the phone
Perhaps it depends on how you hold your phone to your ear.
The edge doesn't bother me at all.
I totally agree.. its defenetly a sharp edge against the ear.. the phone must be angled differend than my ond magic to be comfortable to "use as a phone" :/
after reading this post i check my legend but this "problem" is non existing. Even when i rubb my finger on the edge there is little to no "sharpness". For me its move along people nothing to see.
Jarune said:
after reading this post i check my legend but this "problem" is non existing. Even when i rubb my finger on the edge there is little to no "sharpness". For me its move along people nothing to see.
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Hmmm, I just had a 1hr long phone call and the Legend is noticable uncomfortable to use. The "edge" I'm talking about rests on my ear and it's not painfull, it's just "there" and very annoying. You will naturally move your phone around when you talk and this edge I'm talking about and this makes it even worse.
I pulled out my old Hero and this has a rounded edge (as does the iPhone and EVERY other phone out there) and you can't even notice it when you hold it up to your ear. I'm a nitpicker and I always find small flaws in things I like very much. But I'm considering this is supposed to be a GREAT phone, it should have benn rounded off.
Edge: The edge I'm talking about is the result of a 90 degree angle on the metal where the aluminum has been cnc'd. Once again, hold your phone the other way round and it is MUCH more comfortable to hold against your head, but MUCH worse to use as a phone...
Sebastian768 said:
In my humble opinion, there is a major design "fault" with the aluminum casing used and it's pretty severe one at that. For me, this makes me think about taking the phone back and getting a refund (yes I can, even after I've used ut).This is the sort of thing Apple would never allow. Now I'm NO Apple fanboy, rather a HTC/Android Phanboy, so hold those horses......
But, ever notice the sharp edge surrounding the top of the HTC? It's quite annoying and prob would get slightly painful in longer conversations.
Now, all they would have to do, was to try the phone and they would notice. It would only take slightly more beveling of the edge. Try holding the phone the wrong way, spreaker to your ear. THAT'S the way an edge should feel against your ear. It's like there's nothing there!
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I don't find this an issue at all
the iphone button used to really hurt my chin though
its more healthy for there to be an air gap between the phone and your face in any event
I would also strongly suggest the 1 hour calls you use a bluetooth headset. Its bound to be unhealthy otherwise
My tip to avoid this : stick the screen to your ear instead of the edge.
You can hear as well, but the contact is much smoother with the flat surface.
faulty design
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But, ever notice the sharp edge surrounding the top of the HTC? It's quite annoying and prob would get slightly painful in longer conversations.
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Try the handsfree-set that came along.
I't s better for your brains too! ;-)
Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
I'm not sure what to tell you other than you need to run to the store and swap yours out.
Mine sounds way better than any other phone that I've ever owned.
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The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound.
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I think there's something wrong with your phone, bro. I can hear my ringtone very loud and amazingly clear over my car stereo (Pioneer HU, Infinity Reference 6.5", 10" subwoofer w/600w).
I couldn’t care less what the phone looks like. It could have a 'scratch and sniff' picture of a rotting cow covered with maggots on the back. That’s what they make gel covers for! I just want it to have an awesome screen, CPU and GPU. It has all that. Qwerty would have been nice for emulators.
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Yeah, your speaker is 'jack'd', I have to turn mine down because it's way to loud!
Well the back cover of all phones aint worth a damn. But i dont care because mine ALWAYS have a case of them. I have a skinomi screen protector on it so i dont have any fingerprints. I am right handed and press the power button with my thumb or if its in my left hand i use my index finger. Maybe you need practice. I can care less about how the phone looks when its off.
I agree you should return your phone.......
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Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
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LOL WoW tell us how you really feel about the phone, you sound like you ran out and bought it and your pissed that the Sim's game isn't as fun as you thought it was going to be so now the whole phone sucks I'm just sayin...
I haven't really known anyone to complain about a phone being too light.
im with this guy on the phone, coming from the evo, this samsung kind of sucks, im trying to stick it out but i'll probably go back too sprint. tmo's reception is not stellar and samsung software is less then stellar =\.
98classic said:
im with this guy on the phone, coming from the evo, this samsung kind of sucks, im trying to stick it out but i'll probably go back too sprint. tmo's reception is not stellar and samsung software is less then stellar =\.
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TMo's reception works fine for me and the comparison between the Evo and the Vibrant stops at they are both Android phones. Vibrant is far better. But to each their own.
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TMo's reception works fine for me and the comparison between the Evo and the Vibrant stops at they are both Android phones. Vibrant is far better. But to each their own.
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might be the phone but, its far to jumpy, i travel between LA and Portland weekly and only get 3g for about 15 minutes in 3 citys in those 1000 miles. hopefully 2.2 fixes some of the issues.
I guess to each his own, but I love this phone. I've had it next to an EVO and even though the Evo's screen was bigger the Galaxy S screen was definitely more vivid.
I hope you're still within the return period...
Guess there should've been a "IMO" in the title, this phone is fine to me in all those aspects you mentioned.
Thanks for venting, I guess ...
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For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes.
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I wouldnt blame it on Samsung. Since there are many variations to the Galaxy S lineup.
I would blame T-Mobile for ordering a glossy backed phone from Samsung. What Samsung does is they take the order and customize a phone for their customer (T-Mobile) to meet their needs.
Captivate has a different back, Fascinate has a different back, Epic 4G has a different back.
So your argument that it is Samsung's fault for making a bad design decision is fruitless. I like fruit by the way.
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Yes the phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., but beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many compromises, bad design choices, and cost-cutting for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. I am still sticking with the vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does bother me that I am sort of downgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a bad design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that no one likes. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and becomes a slimy mess very quickly. It's also not very secure and creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side, or at least mine does. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold and unpleasant to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The cheap plastic buttons are also difficult to press because of the thinness, are jittery and not very firm, and the power button should be bigger or on the top because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for left hand usage only.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap. It would also help with the toy feel of the phone by adding some weight to that 118g.
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely not a looker, accented with a cheap chrome trim that has been used on old phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. I guess you could say the front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror.
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, but the actual earpiece and speaker isn't very good. The earpiece is muddy and not very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is terrible for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a garbled mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can't get very loud and has that same garbled mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the cheap diminutive fashion candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so bad, or if Samsung has gone cheap again.
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The phone is real fast, has all this cool stuff like 4" Super AMOLED, GPS, Wifi, HSPA, 1GHz processor, etc., AND beyond what they list on the spec sheets, there are many great compromises, great design choices, and awesome cost-cutting ideas for the physical portion of the phone and its usability as a "phone" phone. The vibrant as it performs well for a smartphone, but it does'nt bother me that I am sort of upgrading in other respects.
For one, Samsung made a great design decision by using a cheap, thin, shiny plastic back cover that i like. It is basically the entire phone aside from the glass front, and its easy to clean with one swipy. It's also very secure and does not creaks at the edges where it snaps on the side. The way it tapers back like an iPhone 3G and has a thickness of less than 10mm makes it hard to hold my mouth closed in amazement to use when talking on the phone or using it as a camera. The comfortable plastic buttons are also easy to press because of the thinness, are very firm, and the power button should be applauded because I use my phone with either hand and the power button is made for non complainers.
If the Vibrant had not wanted to be a me too (huh?) of the iPhone 4 as far as thinness, it would be much better to hold like the Samsung Wave, which has actual sides (not chrome edges) that are rounded and comfortable to hold, along with a real shutter button. A thicker phone would have also allowed for a bigger battery and better sensor/lens for the camera and also more expensive if they cared to place one, and who knows why they took out the flash beyond just being cheap (the flash that never existed you mean?). It would also be adding some weight to that 118g. but who wants a heavy phone?
When the screen is off, the phone is definitely a looker, accented with a cool chrome trim that has been great phones for ages. And I've already said enough about the back. i mean its awesome you know cause i get reception unlike a iphone 4. The front can look cool if wiped clean and used as a mirror. (great idea!)
For telephony, I can't say much about call reception, other than amazing but the actual earpiece and speaker is very good. The earpiece is very loud compared to all my previous phones. The speaker is for placing people on speakerphone, because their voices sound like a hot mess that goes in and out. Same with using it when someone calls me. The ringtone can get very loud and has that same hot mess for sound. I've heard way way better like the stereo speakers on Nokia phones and it seems on par with some of the candy bars that Sony Ericsson has. I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so good, or if Samsung has gone awesome again.
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I wonder if its the thinness that is making both the earpiece and the speaker sound so good, or if Samsung has gone awesome again.
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ROfl
Nice one
@OP
If you don't like the phone, return it.
If you can't return it, sell it.
There a plenty of people interested in buying this phone.
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Funny stuff
Humorous, I find the case of the phone to be a mute point as in my case the phone is sitting snug in a rubber body glove with only the screen exposed. To each his own.
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Funny post. Complaint about everything but the GPS. This phone has the biggest capacity battery I have seen for a phone, yet that's too small. The nicest back cover yet. I must be deaf, because I can hear my phone quite well in a 100db engine room. Cheap plastic buttons? There is buttons on this phone? What is he doing, typing the Morse Code on the power button? Or is there some great phone I'm missing?
YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG!
I know it sounds a little odd, but I kinda wish the phone was a little heavier. When I was holding the Evo yesterday it felt beefy and really solid.
However with that being said, I really like the fact that when I wear cargo shorts and my phone is in my pocket its not cracking me in the knee like my G1 brick used to do.
I guess you have to take the good with the bad and the bad being its rather light I suppose I can live with unless of course I decide later to duct tap some lead to the battery cover.
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and the power button is made for non complainers.
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LOL!!! I'm glad I wasn't drinking milk, otherwise, my laptop would be bathed in it!
OK, so the Omnia 7 is my first Samsung device, always had HTC devices before (and still do).
Why the heck is it so slippy, and difficult to hold? the DesireHD (and HD2 before that and every other phone I've owned) sit quiet happily in my hand, the Omnia tries to commit suicide almost every time I hold it, and heaven help me if my hand is slightly damp!
Anyone got any decent ideas on how to make the thing more usable? is there perhaps an aftermarket battery cover that's OEM looking and slightly rubberised?
+1 - noticed this when I first got my phone but it seems to be some kind of coating that has worn off - at least my phone is far less slippery than it used to be. Tried different covers which worked ok but ended up being unhappy with the extra depth these added to the phone.
try the case mate shell, it's made of plastic so less slippery plus only adds a bit more bulk. i had the same concerns so had to buy it, and have since dropped my phone on its side directly on the pavement, and the case worked great, phone is fine.
I got myself a gelaskin, much better grip.
Got the official Samsung flip case from ebay France. Works great and is pretty slim.
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try the case mate shell, it's made of plastic so less slippery plus only adds a bit more bulk. i had the same concerns so had to buy it, and have since dropped my phone on its side directly on the pavement, and the case worked great, phone is fine.
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Yeap, the case mate hard case is awesome. That was the first thing that i bought once i got my omnia 7.
GelaSkins FTW
REALLY annoying!
I just bought a case for £2 from Ebay!
yes indeed a very slippery phone, Im using my hd2 pouch until I can find the official case
Yes, it's a bit slick. But I've never had a problem with slippage in day to day useage. I guess it's just down to how you hold it.
Slippy i cant say. But the corved back ends up on the edges making the sides to thin to get a good grip. The problem gets escaleted with the button that is to sencetive. The total result is, you have to use the phone for a while to get used to it, and it sure takes a while. While calling there is no promblem for me, surfing, taking pictures that requers you to tilt and move the phone in your hand is the problem. And its the buttons fault.
cm case-mate offers what looks to be the best solutions. Specially the screen protector that comes with the pack is among the best i have seen. It keeps the glass look thats offerd without any screen protectors. Was also supprised how easy to mount it was.
I bought CM standard black solution, and it cured all the button problems and is now easy to hold. Its a bit ugly thou, but the plus side makes me use it. The overall experience is therefor greatly increased.
If any body tryed the "barely there" version, could you plz explain your view of experience. Does it keep the good look while offering a decient protection?
Also, does anybody experience a difference on responsivness between the back, and the search button? My back button is less sencitive and i find myself having to re press the button. While search button i so responsive i kan just stare at the button =D. Hope its not my device that is faulty.
Nakazul said:
Also, does anybody experience a difference on responsivness between the back, and the search button? My back button is less sencitive and i find myself having to re press the button. While search button i so responsive i kan just stare at the button =D. Hope its not my device that is faulty.
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Both have the same sensitivity for me. It could be that you're using a slightly different angle with your finger/thumb on the buttons if you're holding the phone in one hand.
No, the angle doesnt matter. :-(
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CONTACTMC said:
I got myself a gelaskin, much better grip.
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Best option, damn phones 'slippery like a fish' haha
Mine had the same problem, th eback button was not sensitive at all and sometimes didnt even work. I sent it back and got a replacement. Glad to say new one is Ok. I think this is a fault with some of these phones.
After a week of owning the One M8 I am pretty happy with it, I'd say very happy actually. Not fair, but the comparisons are against my previous phone, the Galaxy S4. I was heavily considering the S5 on ATT, but ATT is screwing S5 owners, no root, and doubtful ever to see custom recovery for ROM's.
Pros;
- Screen is awesome, very crisp and sharp, with realistic colors, looks extremely detailed. After my S4's AMOLED, this is a refreshing change. Plus outdoors it looks night and day better than the S4 screen.
- Crazy smooth fast. The M8 is Star Trek warp speed fast compared to the S4 which would be current rocket technology fast. Plus TW on the S4 would lag or pause for a second or two in some apps, never get anything like that on the M8.
- Sense 6 is very nice, compared to Touchwiz, it looks more professional, nice Black / White / Blue theme and design to Sense 6, more of a minimalistic look. I still think stock Android is the best, but Sense 6 is a very close second. And Touchwiz is last place of all UI's to me.
- Battery life on the M8 is off the charts AMAZING, I mean like really good, maybe even 50% better then my S4. This thing almost lasts as long as my old Note 2 battery.
- Speakers, I wasn't ever really looking for great speakers in a cell phone before, never thought about it. But wow these are crazy good, loud and very clear sound. YouTube videos and music sound awesome. Really wasn't expecting to like the speakers as much as I do.
- Development friendly, I am rooted, custom Recovery, S-Off, and running a custom stock ROM. And I have the option to install the GPE ROM of the M8, so can always be on the latest Android OS if I want for years now.
Cons;
- Heavy weight, not a fan of the heavier feel of this M8, compared to my old S4 which was feather light. The S4 in gym shorts was barely noticeable, where the M8 feels like a brick.
- Curved back not cool, I like flat backs on a phone, to rest on a desk, and use it while laying down on the table. Can't really do that with the M8. I like a small thin flat case around my phone, not curved.
- Accessories, not nearly as many cases available for the M8, as there are for the iPhone or Galaxy line.
- LED Notification light on the S4 is better, bigger and brighter. The M8 has this tiny little flashing dot hiding inside the speaker grille.
- Not waterproof like the new S5, which would be nice.
Overall I really like this M8, just need to find that right case. But the S5 still looks nice too, but with no root and no ROM's for the S5 that is a big deal for me. I couldn't handle a stock carrier version S5 with no customization or option to debloat it. But the lighter feel, and flat back is nice for the S5.
At the end of the day there is no perfect phone. I think a combination of the S5 + M8 = perfect phone. Sense 6 + S5 screen + metal design in the shape of the old smaller S4 size + waterproof. Then I woke up
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After a week of owning the One M8 I am pretty happy with it, I'd say very happy actually. Not fair, but the comparisons are against my previous phone, the Galaxy S4. I was heavily considering the S5 on ATT, but ATT is screwing S5 owners, no root, and doubtful ever to see custom recovery for ROM's.
Pros;
- Screen is awesome, very crisp and sharp, with realistic colors, looks extremely detailed. After my S4's AMOLED, this is a refreshing change. Plus outdoors it looks night and day better than the S4 screen.
- Crazy smooth fast. The M8 is Star Trek warp speed fast compared to the S4 which would be current rocket technology fast. Plus TW on the S4 would lag or pause for a second or two in some apps, never get anything like that on the M8.
- Sense 6 is very nice, compared to Touchwiz, it looks more professional, nice Black / White / Blue theme and design to Sense 6, more of a minimalistic look. I still think stock Android is the best, but Sense 6 is a very close second. And Touchwiz is last place of all UI's to me.
- Battery life on the M8 is off the charts AMAZING, I mean like really good, maybe even 50% better then my S4. This thing almost lasts as long as my old Note 2 battery.
- Speakers, I wasn't ever really looking for great speakers in a cell phone before, never thought about it. But wow these are crazy good, loud and very clear sound. YouTube videos and music sound awesome. Really wasn't expecting to like the speakers as much as I do.
- Development friendly, I am rooted, custom Recovery, S-Off, and running a custom stock ROM. And I have the option to install the GPE ROM of the M8, so can always be on the latest Android OS if I want for years now.
Cons;
- Heavy weight, not a fan of the heavier feel of this M8, compared to my old S4 which was feather light. The S4 in gym shorts was barely noticeable, where the M8 feels like a brick.
- Curved back not cool, I like flat backs on a phone, to rest on a desk, and use it while laying down on the table. Can't really do that with the M8. I like a small thin flat case around my phone, not curved.
- Accessories, not nearly as many cases available for the M8, as there are for the iPhone or Galaxy line.
- LED Notification light on the S4 is better, bigger and brighter. The M8 has this tiny little flashing dot hiding inside the speaker grille.
- Not waterproof like the new S5, which would be nice.
Overall I really like this M8, just need to find that right case. But the S5 still looks nice too, but with no root and no ROM's for the S5 that is a big deal for me. I couldn't handle a stock carrier version S5 with no customization or option to debloat it. But the lighter feel, and flat back is nice for the S5.
At the end of the day there is no perfect phone. I think a combination of the S5 + M8 = perfect phone. Sense 6 + S5 screen + metal design in the shape of the old smaller S4 size + waterproof. Then I woke up
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Thanks for your post man.
I have the S4 and I don't like it because of the plastic and now with knox I can't root/flash roms anymore so my phone just idles most of the time..
Also I had a problem where the adhesive between the LCD and screen started coming loose, in my pocket, Samsung won't replace it, I even contacted them directly but they said ANY damage to the screen is not under warranty, although the warranty booklet says something else.
Also my screen got scratched in the service center (see pic).
Originally I was deciding between the S4 and the original One, but went with the S4 because "everybody" was rocking one, well I don't know why Samsung devices are so popular, in my opinion they are okay, but not worth the money at release.
I'm getting the M8 tomorrow! I'll post my thoughts as well.
Btw, as someone who does take some photos, will I be disappointed by the camera? The S4 is 100% good enough for me, I actually even prefer my Lumia 800 camera because of the bokeh and feel.
Agree With almsot everything. though I put the HTC logo/bar and horrible sleep button in the cons.
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Cons;
- LED Notification light on the S4 is better, bigger and brighter. The M8 has this tiny little flashing dot hiding inside the speaker grille.
- Not waterproof like the new S5, which would be nice. )
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Yeah that's probably the only thing that I don't really like on this phone, the LED notification. If it wasn't for the good speakers telling you a notification came in you'd never notice it until you unlock the phone again for whatever reason.
Not the worst thing in the world though.
As for the waterproof, I did see some videos on youtube where they tossed in water and it held up nice enough even though it isn't officially rated as "waterproof". I won't test it out on my own though...:cyclops:
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Agree With almsot everything. though I put the HTC logo/bar and horrible sleep button in the cons.
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I hardly notice the bar anymore...
I also got pretty used to where all the buttons are regardless of the fact that I don't usually press the power button to turn of the screen, just leave it to auto lock. :good:
The only thing that annoys me about the M8 is the position of the headphone jack, why oh why did HTC change, it was perfectly fine where it was, Asides from that it's a brilliant phone and worthy contender for phone of the year 2014, although the new One plus one looks a beast and amazing price, but the build quality and boom sound should win it for HTC again.
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Agree With almsot everything. though I put the HTC logo/bar and horrible sleep button in the cons.
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This is definitely something I agree with, the "horrible sleep button" part. I've run my finger over it a few times, and it noticeably sways in place. If you press the edge of your nail on one side of the button, the other side slides upwards, and it just doesn't sit still and feels very loose. Absolutely HATE it. It's going to be hard going for another phone after the M8 though, unless it has similar "Motion Launch Gestures". Even though it's more of just a usage convenience, I'm almost addicted to how great it is to turn the phone on by just tapping on the screen.
Also, the curved back actually feels pretty nice in the hand, but I'd probably like it more if it had a flat back too. That, and if it was less slippery (though I'm trying to look around for a good skin to put on the back so it won't be as slippery). Also, I wish there was like some kind of a separator between the volume up/down buttons (either a gap or a little elevated line), and that you could put a lock screen widget onto your, uhh...home lock screen. Right now, it always open to the default HTC lock screen (unless I'm being stupid and missing something. If someone can point me in the direction of changing that, I'd be really glad), but those are kinda tiny nitpicks.
Not really waterproof but still "waterspray" proof (ip x3).
The S5 is just protected against temporarly in water dives, the Z2 permanent.
Also... the M8 survived 30+ minutes inside a water bowl. and nothing happened on it.
In any halfway realistic scenario, the ip 58/67 will have zero difference. Noone throws his phone into a swimming pool tbh, or goes diving with it.
If i would ever go diving, and wanting to shoot those rare awesome pictures, i would get a professional camera for these moments.
Is the One M8 " water spray proof ". If so that's cool. Would that mean protection against rain drops or light mist ?
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This is definitely something I agree with, the "horrible sleep button" part. I've run my finger over it a few times, and it noticeably sways in place. If you press the edge of your nail on one side of the button, the other side slides upwards, and it just doesn't sit still and feels very loose. Absolutely HATE it. It's going to be hard going for another phone after the M8 though, unless it has similar "Motion Launch Gestures". Even though it's more of just a usage convenience, I'm almost addicted to how great it is to turn the phone on by just tapping on the screen.
Also, the curved back actually feels pretty nice in the hand, but I'd probably like it more if it had a flat back too. That, and if it was less slippery (though I'm trying to look around for a good skin to put on the back so it won't be as slippery). Also, I wish there was like some kind of a separator between the volume up/down buttons (either a gap or a little elevated line), and that you could put a lock screen widget onto your, uhh...home lock screen. Right now, it always open to the default HTC lock screen (unless I'm being stupid and missing something. If someone can point me in the direction of changing that, I'd be really glad), but those are kinda tiny nitpicks.
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I just replaced my M8, my other one had a loose power button and good volume keys.(wasn't the reason I had it replaced). This one has a perfect power button. Like really. I've never felt a power button this perfect before. And the loosest volume keys ever.... Sigh.
This power button though... There's like no give side to side until you press it. I'm actually amazed.
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Is the One M8 " water spray proof ". If so that's cool. Would that mean protection against rain drops or light mist ?
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Jeff Gordon from HTC said so... but I think everyone is too scared to try it lol.
Mine only was the HTC bar
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I've never really been worried about getting light rain drops on my phone. The only time I really see it being a problem is when it's pouring. Nothing bad water related has ever happened to any of my phones
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Mine only was the HTC bar
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They said it had to be there, two big speakers take a lot of extra room. + the other stuff.
I actually kind of like it... ?
I think I would be pressing on screen keys accidentally all the time
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhwvXTVQoPM
So yes... i would say, rain or mist should be no Problem at all
Just under a week with mine. So far I'm extremely happy I left Samsung in the dust. Build quality, feel of the phone in hand, display and speed all trump my past 3 phones. Only fault I can give it is the power button. It still boggles my mind as to why it wasn't placed on the left or on the side and volume keys moved to the other side.
I love that HTC decided to reintroduce external memory and they can be forgiven for not giving us hot swapping of memory/sim cards.
Also after being with Samsung for 3 years I'm glad to see HTC is still developer friendly
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I agree with your weight comment. I have a Seidio surface with kickstand case (blue is beautiful, the pictures don't show you the wonderful pearlescent finish, which really pops), a glass screen protector and this unit is HEAVY compared to my feather light S2. Sound was the key driver of my purchase. I bought my wife an M7 for her birthday and have lusted after her speakers ever since. This in my mind outweighed the lackluster camera. The screen is great, but the great thing about this LCD springs from how bad my AMOLED S2 screen was. It has severe screen burn in issues. I was always babying it and worried about turning it off, now with LCD I can use on screen alerts if I want, and leave my screen on for as long as I want.
You are right about KNOX. That killed ANY Samsung product for me. Even though I hate begging mommy HTC to give me a code to unlock the device I just paid them $750 for, KNOX is orders of magnitude worse. These are our devices, period. I guess if you live in the dying empire, addicted to an ever deepening credit spiral, carriers may have the right to somehow control the device, and your behaviour, until the end of the contract. However, those of us who do flash occasionally know a new ROM really gives an old device renewed vigour, so the ability to do to our devices whatever we wish is an absolute must over the typical contract period of two years.
Just a slight correction, I don't believe GPE will give updates for an eternity (the impossible to service battery, 2/10 iFixit score tells all you need to know about the inevitable end of life of our device). The GPE ROM update is still provided by HTC, so we are, I believe, at their mercy for however long they see fit to officially support the device.
Only thing that's quite awfull for me is the muscle ache in left arm after holding it in my hand in the morning, cause it's much heavier than my old SGS3
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Just under a week with mine. So far I'm extremely happy I left Samsung in the dust. Build quality, feel of the phone in hand, display and speed all trump my past 3 phones. Only fault I can give it is the power button. It still boggles my mind as to why it wasn't placed on the left or on the side and volume keys moved to the other side.
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Erm. The power button would definitely have a better home on the left side (and it feels really loose on mine, so that bothers me too), but the volume keys are on the right side because if you hold your phone normally, in portrait, you can press them with your thumb. Having owned an iPhone 5 as my previous phone before this one, I did get used to the placement of the volume keys on the left (as just getting used to it is what every one of these "why is button X in position Y" complaints can be explained away with), but I think it's better this way overall. I mean, sure, you can use the volume keys with your pointer or middle finger(s), but using the thumb's easier (at least I think so, and I reckon a lot of other people do too).
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Erm. The power button would definitely have a better home on the left side (and it feels really loose on mine, so that bothers me too), but the volume keys are on the right side because if you hold your phone normally, in portrait, you can press them with your thumb. Having owned an iPhone 5 as my previous phone before this one, I did get used to the placement of the volume keys on the left (as just getting used to it is what every one of these "why is button X in position Y" complaints can be explained away with), but I think it's better this way overall. I mean, sure, you can use the volume keys with your pointer or middle finger(s), but using the thumb's easier (at least I think so, and I reckon a lot of other people do too).
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Yeah I also like the volume keys where they are. I hold the phone in my right hand so it's much easier, only problem for me though... I'm not entirely used to it yet, I tend to press the volume down button on a frequent basis by accident, it doesn't help that the volume keys are so sensitive either but like you mentioned, it just takes some getting used to. Though I'm not saying that sensitive volume rockers are a bad thing, I think it's awesome...
Power button, they probably could have put it where the SDCard slot is and you could quickly turn it off with just a thumb slide but, I also like it where it's at now so. It's out of the way and prevent continious accidental locks while you're busy, which I can easily see happening if you take into consideration that I still accidentally press the volume down button
I don't really understand the complaints though, if they pick up the device they could unlock it with power button almost instantly before they even manouvre it into their hand for use...Else what's wrong with a quick swipe from the bottom to top to take you to last screen worked in? For the turning off...well if you're going to put it down anyways what difference does it make HOW you press the button, the thing is going on the table anyways and if you're lazy and read with the device flat on the surface you'll end up pressing the power button from the front side(Device facing up) with an index finger anyways...
Oh well, to each his own I suppose.
Like I said though the only MAJOR complaint I have is with the darn LED notification. Perhaps if they could just have increased the size of the LED slightly so that it could shine through more grill holes it would have been better but it's effectively a single grill hole notification with hard to notice colors on the LED in some instances. :silly: It's fine though the speakers make up for it somehow by clearly and loudly notifying you of an incoming mail, message etc so...
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Yeah I also like the volume keys where they are. I hold the phone in my right hand so it's much easier, only problem for me though... I'm not entirely used to it yet, I tend to press the volume down button on a frequent basis by accident, it doesn't help that the volume keys are so sensitive either but like you mentioned, it just takes some getting used to. Though I'm not saying that sensitive volume rockers are a bad thing, I think it's awesome...
Like I said though the only MAJOR complaint I have is with the darn LED notification. Perhaps if they could just have increased the size of the LED slightly so that it could shine through more grill holes it would have been better but it's effectively a single grill hole notification with hard to notice colors on the LED in some instances. :silly: It's fine though the speakers make up for it somehow by clearly and loudly notifying you of an incoming mail, message etc so...
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Yeah, a fair argument someone could bring up to me that I fully agree with is that the volume buttons are a bit too sensitive, and I accidentally press them a lot too. Again, I wish they were separated a bit (don't really like them being one unified strip), and were a bit more rigid. I can change the volume on the M8 without making almost any noise, but I'd take some noise when pressing the volume buttons as opposed to accidentally pressing them all the time (which is extra annoying seeing as my headset controls don't seem to work, at least not in PowerAmp).
Agree about the volume buttons. The amount of times a notification goes off and I thought I had it on silent/ vibrate.
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