Did the PE1 update fix the High Android System usage? Is it safe to update with root? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Questions & Answers

I rooted my phone with the correct methods as in the threads below mine, and I purposely havent updated my phone for a while, just in case the root would only work for older system versions.
I'm just curious to know if, now that I'm rooted, is it safe to update to PE1, and will it fix the Android System battery drain? I've also downloaded all the root fixes too, as well as the Debloat, so my original System Updates app doesn't work anymore.
I would love to get just some answers from the pros on this before possibly bricking or boot looping my amazing phone.
Thanks!

*bump* Hate to bump, but does anyone know this question? After flashing all the fixes, I notice my battery still kinda goes down somewhat fast when in use and sometimes a bit fast when the screen is off.

Squall429 said:
*bump* Hate to bump, but does anyone know this question? After flashing all the fixes, I notice my battery still kinda goes down somewhat fast when in use and sometimes a bit fast when the screen is off.
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I don't know if PE1 fixes the drain but it can be rooted and downgraded if needed. Same thing for the newest PF2 firmware I have here.

I have the same problem idk what to do if PE1 fixes the battery drain I'll gladly update if not I might have to go back to stock and just stay on it unless someone can find a way to unlock bootloader so we can get custom roms (only reason I wanted root tbh)

So I can just take the update now, WHILE rooted and I'll be fine? Will I have to re-root after the update is done, or do I just continue using it as normal?
Will I have to re-flash the new fixes for the PE1 version and stuff? Since I have flashed the old NON-PE1 fixes, will this brick my phone when updating to PE1?

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[Q] new OTA update and rooting ?

i wanted to do a battery saver mod, or a couple of mods maybe. i am not rooted yet, and i just took an OTA update (probably a bad idea right?) oh well, is there any way i can root it with this update?
this is the method i was going to use, any idea if it will work? i couldnt find anything really about kernel versions or anything just model compatibility, and mine is an i9505 verizon. so it should work, but the OTA is fairly recent and im wondering if it just hasnt been updated or what?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39901375
after doing a bit more research i MAY not root, just because of the fact that i heard it disables screen mirroring, i use this feature on the daily.
still if anyone can give me a definitive answer that would be great
fade2green514 said:
after doing a bit more research i MAY not root, just because of the fact that i heard it disables screen mirroring, i use this feature on the daily.
still if anyone can give me a definitive answer that would be great
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Dude how can it do that just try by urself and if it does just flash stock rom again to unroot and u wont loose ur data in doing so

Deesleep issue on stock firmware

Hey guys, i have question regarding the deepsleep issue that a lot of people have with the s6 edge + after root. I have searched the issue but i can't find any definitive answers (maybe that's just me?). All point to modded kernels.
I rooted my phone on 5.1.1 and immediately ran into the issue where the phone refuses to go into deepsleep. I only got half a day of battery life since then. I flashed back stock firmware with odin several times, but the the issue persisted. Since then only modified kernels have been my savior. Now on 6.0.1 i'm still having the same issue. I was hoping it was a firmware bug on 5.1.1. Obviously not. I read somewhere that it was tied to KNOX, but still no definitve answer. So my question is. Will i ever be able to get the phone back to stock and working like before root? If it is possible, how would i go about this? I will sell this phone in the near future, so i would like to sell it unmodified.
Thanks in advance guys.
Unfortunately, the only time I ran into this issue is when i updated to 6.0.1. I later rooted and installed a custom ROM and kernel, and surely enough, problem was gone. I plan on staying like this since obviously, there's a lot more benefits when it comes to custom ROMs. Logically reverting back to stock should in theory should i theory fix your deep sleep issue, if this is not the case then.....sorry.
Speedster_1 said:
Unfortunately, the only time I ran into this issue is when i updated to 6.0.1. I later rooted and installed a custom ROM and kernel, and surely enough, problem was gone. I plan on staying like this since obviously, there's a lot more benefits when it comes to custom ROMs. Logically reverting back to stock should in theory should i theory fix your deep sleep issue, if this is not the case then.....sorry.
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Going back to stock will not cure this because you have rooted the phone.I used the TWRP recovery method of rooting and only loose around 5% overnight.

Possible to un-root a phone without a firmware flash?

Is it possible to "un-root" a phone without having to flash firmware? For example I'd like to use Samsung Pay which won't work because of a root check BUT would like to keep the debloated and optimized U ROM along with the non-provisioned WIFI-tethering, VVM, etc. that I originally rooted for. So is this possible? I understand that I will still be on the eng. boot kernel but that's fine.
GeoFX said:
Is it possible to "un-root" a phone without having to flash firmware? For example I'd like to use Samsung Pay which won't work because of a root check BUT would like to keep the debloated and optimized U ROM along with the non-provisioned WIFI-tethering, VVM, etc. that I originally rooted for. So is this possible? I understand that I will still be on the eng. boot kernel but that's fine.
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You can try the unroot option in the SU app but I doubt it will work because the files are pushed to the system by ADB. I could be wrong though.
This is one thing I have been curious about as well. I just want to make a few changes to files that require root, then remove root to keep my Samsung Pay working but the changes still saved in place. I feel like someone has tried it, I just haven't ran across the post yet...
I'd like to keep the U firmware while having all of the Verizon essentials but without root. Even optimized with all battery savings, I'm getting heat just using chrome and having more battery drainage than when I was unrooted. I read it's something dealing with the eng.boot since it's not made for daily use.
So would it be possible just to factory reset U firmware and have the necessary Verizon apps to install afterwards? I'm guessing root isn't that beneficial for me at this point if it just drains my battery since I usually would have 3 hours of SOT by 50%, and now it's only 2 hours by 50%.
GigaSPX said:
So would it be possible just to factory reset U firmware and have the necessary Verizon apps to install afterwards? I'm guessing root isn't that beneficial for me at this point if it just drains my battery since I usually would have 3 hours of SOT by 50%, and now it's only 2 hours by 50%.
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You can install most of the Verizon apps through the Play Store except for VVM, which requires you to write into /system and thus requires root and thus the eng. kernel. Also you won't be be able to patch the HD Calling feature without root as well. IF you need these features, then the eng. kernel is a must have in order to obtain root to install.
If not, you're good to go. I'm sure there's probably something else I'm missing.
GeoFX said:
You can install most of the Verizon apps through the Play Store except for VVM, which requires you to write into /system and thus requires root and thus the eng. kernel. Also you won't be be able to patch the HD Calling feature without root as well. IF you need these features, then the eng. kernel is a must have in order to obtain root to install.
If not, you're good to go. I'm sure there's probably something else I'm missing.
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Then it would already be pretty great to simply get a debloated stock Verizon firmware. Because I was amazed at how much free space I had for internal storage once I flashed the U firmware and the v15 debloat fix zip. If I could go all of that without the battery drainage that I'm pretty sure is coming from root itself.
GigaSPX said:
Then it would already be pretty great to simply get a debloated stock Verizon firmware. Because I was amazed at how much free space I had for internal storage once I flashed the U firmware and the v15 debloat fix zip. If I could go all of that without the battery drainage that I'm pretty sure is coming from root itself.
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Your battery drainage is due to the engineering kernel, not necessarily from root. It is not an optimized kernel at all. When I was rooted, the phone was 6 degrees C warmer at idle than stock and would lag. This is with all the V15 fixes from the S7 thread. And heat kills battery life.
I'm sure someone could do this. I'm from the verizon flat s7 forums and a person is suggesting getting on the rooted firmware then from that installing a debloated stock rom from there without root but with various cooked in optimizations. It's not out yet but I'm waiting to see what comes of it. Root hasn't settled enough for me to run it all the time just yet.
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JediDru said:
I'm sure someone could do this. I'm from the verizon flat s7 forums and a person is suggesting getting on the rooted firmware then from that installing a debloated stock rom from there without root but with various cooked in optimizations. It's not out yet but I'm waiting to see what comes of it. Root hasn't settled enough for me to run it all the time just yet.
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That's actually perfect, when possible. :0
Could you not just apply the fixes and unroot or flashing will remove these?
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US996 on 10d...should I update?

I believe there is an update available for my 996. I'm currently knows.
I have turned ofupdates.
I anticipate I may want to root. Given all the problems i see people having I'm not sure I'll risk it. But I don't want to lock myself out of it.
Is it ok to update given I may want to root?
ewingr said:
I believe there is an update available for my 996. I'm currently knows.
I have turned ofupdates.
I anticipate I may want to root. Given all the problems i see people having I'm not sure I'll risk it. But I don't want to lock myself out of it.
Is it ok to update given I may want to root?
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What issues have you seen? Once you have a stable rom flashed it should work pretty well. This phone is an adventure of its own. I had issues in the beginning, but wiping data and flashing a Rom did the trick! I was iffy on the rooting processes at first as well and pushed it off quite a few times. But I prefer root nowadays. If the issues you see outway root then idk. I recommend rooting! Weta is a pretty nice rom for the US996
I suspect I will root. Not sure about custom ROM.
But my question is should I update my stock ROM to the latest stock ROM. I suppose I should ask " If I update to the latest stock ROM will it prevent me from rooting or installing a custom Rom in the future?". I know on some cases that does happen.

Rooting?

Does anyone know of a rooting guide specifically for the 930A? I'm not a n00b, but I'm hesitant to use methods from other variants, especially if it requires having to mine from potentially hundreds of pages.
And at this point, I'm not even sure which version of the firmware is still rootable.
still works...
General_Mayhem said:
Does anyone know of a rooting guide specifically for the 930A? I'm not a n00b, but I'm hesitant to use methods from other variants, especially if it requires having to mine from potentially hundreds of pages.
And at this point, I'm not even sure which version of the firmware is still rootable.
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As of today 2/03/2018, the latest OTA installed phone is still able to be rooted using same old EngBoot boot but requires downgrade first. Also thought I might mention that I have not noticed any battery drain issues or lag issues that have commonly plagued the engboot method. Perhaps the OTA changed something that may have been related to whatever made the engboot cause the issues related to battery drain and lag. I don't know but phone is rooted and working better then ever using engboot.
is there a guide to get this working?
alienG0D said:
As of today 2/03/2018, the latest OTA installed phone is still able to be rooted using same old EngBoot boot but requires downgrade first. Also thought I might mention that I have not noticed any battery drain issues or lag issues that have commonly plagued the engboot method. Perhaps the OTA changed something that may have been related to whatever made the engboot cause the issues related to battery drain and lag. I don't know but phone is rooted and working better then ever using engboot.
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Which of the many threads did you use/follow to root? If you can point me in the right direction, I *may* attempt it and if I can get it to work, I *may* write up a step-by-step like I did for my TMo S5.
Thanks.

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