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Hey guys,
I asked the other day if about this being possible, and turned out it already is!
I´m a noob, so I´ve just basically tried a little bit. All I did was:
1) Rooted my Xoom 2 10.1" Wifi following the Root Method by Dan Rosenberg
2) Installed "Drive Mount" from the Market (USB Mass Storage Watcher did not work for me)
3) Plugged my USB OTG adapter (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B006R0XOLO/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details) to my HD IN THE FOLLOWING ORDER: adapter to HD, then both to the Xoom (I was getting constant freezes because I was plugging my HD to the adapter, once the adapter was already connected to the Xoom).
4) With Drive Mount opened, I mounted my old, NTFS, already partitioned, external HD, and it reads it fine!
Not only that, it even gave me enough juice to connect an old Conceptronic USB hub, then my external HD, then a 8 GB USB pen simultaneously, then move a 700 MB movie to and from the USB pen, without problems. I´ve even been able to watch a 4 GB movie from it!
More importantly for me, this actually makes the device capable of making copies on the go, and hopefully, replace the USB pen with a USB card reader, and download photos and movies from you camera to a HD, when you´re on the go. That´s great for me!
Like I said, I´m just a noob, so the only issue is that I have no idea if the Xoom´s battery could be "damaged", or its life expectancy seriously shortened, by connecting that many devices simultaneously. I´d appreciate if you guys could clarify this for me.
Enjoy!
andario said:
... so the only issue is that I have no idea if the Xoom´s battery could be "damaged", or its life expectancy seriously shortened, by connecting that many devices simultaneously.
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No, as it's a near-certainty (anything else is amateur hour) that Moto installed current-limiting USB "VBus" regulators on the line you're drawing power from (limiting it to 1/2 Amp).
Thx for number 3. When i plug the adapter first to the tablet and then hard drive to adapter , touch screen stops respond (the tablet don't freeze but you can do anything ). I couldn't understand why sometimes worked and some didn't. Strange bug.
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I have the exact same bug on my Xoom 2 Media Edition, also rooted.
When I plugin the USB OTG Adapter first in the Xoom and then a USB Stick in the Adapter the whole touchscreen is turned off, you can only force reboot with the back site hardware keys.
If i plugin the drive to the OTG and then the whole thing in my Xoom all is working great.
Have to try this with a Hub and two drives, would be awesome to save my Raw Files during Holiday.
Hope Moto fixes this bug, because sometimes i forget....
hello pals,
does it really need to root the device to use it as described in here?
can I do the same without rooting my xoom2 (10.1 inch)
Xoom 2 ME owner here, USB OTG working and mounting USB data traveller by kingston, working USB HUB, working mouse, running stock Honeycomb without any mods. Using a homemade OTG adapter.
Just passing...
Putting these out there so that dev's could address and all others should be aware of:
- No "USB Mass Storage" support. ICS out-of-the-box doesn't support this, however it can and has been added into ICS-based roms for other devices. Definitely possible to be addressed via software.
- Cannot move/install apps to the external microSD card. With ~4-5GB of available space on internal flash memory, this can become an issue for some.
- supports only microSD formatted in FAT32. Which effectively means if you have a video or other media file that is over 4gb in size, you cannot copy it onto the card. This is certainly a problem when you have HD quality movies you wish to play back on the device.
- wifi "can be" flaky. Many have experienced "low" wifi strength while only a few feet from their routers. Possibly could be improved through kernel driver updates, etc.
Please add on to this list as you come across limitations!
[EDIT]
- Per Macadamia Daze: Lack of Ad-hoc Wi-Fi support
- Per doraemon14: No face-unlock enabled in ICS
- [ CONFIRMED WORKING ]: Support for USB OTG (Host Mode).
I'm not sure who all cares, but it lacks ad hoc Wi-Fi support.
this is my first android device so not sure if this is only for ICS or all other previous versions.
- hope charging via USB is working even though it is not power-off.
nohctis said:
this is my first android device so not sure if this is only for ICS or all other previous versions.
- hope charging via USB is working even though it is not power-off.
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Most tablets now need 2A to charge, USB only provides 500ma. I don't think it works, it's not an ICS limitation.
slopokdave said:
Most tablets now need 2A to charge, USB only provides 500ma. I don't think it works, it's not an ICS limitation.
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thanks for the info. just assuming (more on hoping) it might also work while on power-on since charging via USB is working if the device is turned-off.
as far as the - supports only microSD formatted in FAT32. Which effectively means if you have a video or other media file that is over 4gb in size, you cannot copy it onto the card. This is certainly a problem when you have HD quality movies you wish to play back on the device.
I found that if you use a rar. format you can break the file up into small file. which let you put it on the sd card and then extract the file and put it back together in the card. it may take longer doing that but it works.
Bluetooth issues... device tends to pair and connect, then randomly disconnect, say it's still paired, then constantly pop-up the "Pairing" dialog asking for the PIN number. Once this happens the device will not stay paired.
This is happening with my PLX Kiwi OBD 2 adapter in my car... happens to my friend on the stock original firmware (I'm on the updated version) we're both rooted.. this happened before rooting as well though.
Two more cases can be seen here:
http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=2076.00
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluez-ime/issues/detail?id=162
after i read this thread. I found a work around for usb host in the htc one s forum. Found by nerd65536
[Guide] USB Host
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USB host lets you hook up external USB devices to your phone, like a keyboard, mouse, USB drive, etc..
Unlike devices which are designed to support USB host, the One S doesn't provide power to the peripheral. That means we need a few more adapters/cables to get it to work (and we need an external power source).
Purchase links are listed for all the required cables/adapters.
You will need:
•USB Host adapter (The otherwise unused 5th pin on a micro-usb connector is grounded) dx.com/m-129671
•Mini USB power Y cable (this kind of cable is often packaged with portable hard drives) dx.com/u-65630
•Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter This package comes with two, but you only need one. dx.com/u-55613
•Your charger
Assemble the cable:•The micro USB of the "USB Host adapter" connects to your phone.
•Your peripheral plugs into the female end of the "Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter"
•The "Mini USB power Y cable" has three connectors:1.Mini USB connector - connects to the "Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter"
2.Male USB A Power (the thinner wire) - connects to your charger
3.Male USB A - connects to the "USB Host adapter"
That's all. As long as your ROM supports the peripheral, it will work.
Some fun peripherals to try:•Powered USB hub (You can also power the adapter from one of the hub's ports)
•Keyboard
•Mouse (a cursor will appear on your device)
•USB flash drives and USB hard drives must be FAT32. You have to run a few commands to use a USB drive. Mount manually from the shell (use Connectbot or Terminal Emulator):
Code:
su
mkdir /media/sdcard/usb
mount -o uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702 /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sdcard/usb
To unmount:
Code:
su
umount /mnt/sdcard/usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629134
Diablo2424 said:
Bluetooth issues... device tends to pair and connect, then randomly disconnect, say it's still paired, then constantly pop-up the "Pairing" dialog asking for the PIN number. Once this happens the device will not stay paired.
This is happening with my PLX Kiwi OBD 2 adapter in my car... happens to my friend on the stock original firmware (I'm on the updated version) we're both rooted.. this happened before rooting as well though.
Two more cases can be seen here:
http://torque-bhp.com/forums/?wpforumaction=viewtopic&t=2076.00
http://code.google.com/p/android-bluez-ime/issues/detail?id=162
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UPDATE on BT!
I just called Samsung Mobile Support and let them know about my issue. I mentioned that the original and current firmware's both have this problem, the agent put me on hold for a few minutes and came back saying that they are aware of this issue and the next firmware update (OTA) should be resolving it!
Thank you Samsung for having great customer service (I was only on the phone with Samsung 12 minutes total, including the non-existent wait time!)
yeah, recap:
you:Im having a BT issue
sammy: please hold, *call developers on other line* *yelling at developers* Bluetooth is broken! fix it!
sammy: *back on call with you*, we're aware of the issue and will be fixed in an OTA update.
just kidding although I love pounding Sammy every chance I get.
cbetso said:
after i read this thread. I found a work around for usb host in the htc one s forum. Found by nerd65536
[Guide] USB Host
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USB host lets you hook up external USB devices to your phone, like a keyboard, mouse, USB drive, etc..
Unlike devices which are designed to support USB host, the One S doesn't provide power to the peripheral. That means we need a few more adapters/cables to get it to work (and we need an external power source).
Purchase links are listed for all the required cables/adapters.
You will need:
•USB Host adapter (The otherwise unused 5th pin on a micro-usb connector is grounded) dx.com/m-129671
•Mini USB power Y cable (this kind of cable is often packaged with portable hard drives) dx.com/u-65630
•Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter This package comes with two, but you only need one. dx.com/u-55613
•Your charger
Assemble the cable:•The micro USB of the "USB Host adapter" connects to your phone.
•Your peripheral plugs into the female end of the "Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter"
•The "Mini USB power Y cable" has three connectors:1.Mini USB connector - connects to the "Mini USB Female to USB A Female adapter"
2.Male USB A Power (the thinner wire) - connects to your charger
3.Male USB A - connects to the "USB Host adapter"
That's all. As long as your ROM supports the peripheral, it will work.
Some fun peripherals to try:•Powered USB hub (You can also power the adapter from one of the hub's ports)
•Keyboard
•Mouse (a cursor will appear on your device)
•USB flash drives and USB hard drives must be FAT32. You have to run a few commands to use a USB drive. Mount manually from the shell (use Connectbot or Terminal Emulator):
Code:
su
mkdir /media/sdcard/usb
mount -o uid=1000,gid=1015,fmask=0702,dmask=0702 /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sdcard/usb
To unmount:
Code:
su
umount /mnt/sdcard/usb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629134
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Did you test any of this for this tablet? Does it even apply to this tablet (you are referencing a different device)? USB OTG (aka Host Mode) is a combination of having the right hardware + the right modules compiled into the kernel.
Diablo2424 said:
UPDATE on BT!
I just called Samsung Mobile Support and let them know about my issue. I mentioned that the original and current firmware's both have this problem, the agent put me on hold for a few minutes and came back saying that they are aware of this issue and the next firmware update (OTA) should be resolving it!
Thank you Samsung for having great customer service (I was only on the phone with Samsung 12 minutes total, including the non-existent wait time!)
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I had the same problem along many others(on original firmware it wasn't even usable it rebooted constantly). I was trying to connect to one of this:
http://tunerstudio.com/index.php/cablesandbluetooth
I ended up returning the device as I mainly needed it for that a the moment and as it crashed using the browser etc, but thinking of buying again.
Did they give you an ETA for the update? Or have you tried another ROM?
Post up if you get it fixed
cbetso said:
as far as the - supports only microSD formatted in FAT32. Which effectively means if you have a video or other media file that is over 4gb in size, you cannot copy it onto the card. This is certainly a problem when you have HD quality movies you wish to play back on the device.
I found that if you use a rar. format you can break the file up into small file. which let you put it on the sd card and then extract the file and put it back together in the card. it may take longer doing that but it works.
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FAT32 has a single-file size limit of 4GB. Yes, you could use rar or any other archive format to break the original file into pieces, however for example, an HD .mkv video file can be well over 5GB (single file). You could possible copy 1 of those large files into the 'internal' memory if you had the space -- but defeats the whole purpose of having expandable storage.
i dunno whether the one i write here is considered as flaws or not...
i don't like the way this tab arrange its homescreen and apps cabinet...there are some spaces left and can't be filled...i hate this...
lastiko said:
i dunno whether the one i write here is considered as flaws or not...
i don't like the way this tab arrange its homescreen and apps cabinet...there are some spaces left and can't be filled...i hate this...
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A new launcher will fix that problem for you. I use apex launcher.. but there's other alternatives out there as well.. like go launcher
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Slowb00st said:
I had the same problem along many others(on original firmware it wasn't even usable it rebooted constantly). I was trying to connect to one of this:
http://tunerstudio.com/index.php/cablesandbluetooth
I ended up returning the device as I mainly needed it for that a the moment and as it crashed using the browser etc, but thinking of buying again.
Did they give you an ETA for the update? Or have you tried another ROM?
Post up if you get it fixed
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Understandable if you needed it working right at that moment. I did ask for an ETA but unfortunately he said he didn't have one... he did say that it will be soon and to make sure my device is on wifi and ready for an update soon.. but I'm on a rooted stock firmware and froze the software updater lmao so that won't work... but I'll keep an eye out for am update and let everyone know. No I haven't tried any other ROMs yet as they all have some flaws that bother me... not too mention for my specific use I don't really need anything too fancy... just need BT for my PLX Kiwi OBD adapter for my cars diagnostics
is there anyone has stock room for p3100?
Diablo2424 said:
Understandable if you needed it working right at that moment. I did ask for an ETA but unfortunately he said he didn't have one... he did say that it will be soon and to make sure my device is on wifi and ready for an update soon.. but I'm on a rooted stock firmware and froze the software updater lmao so that won't work... but I'll keep an eye out for am update and let everyone know. No I haven't tried any other ROMs yet as they all have some flaws that bother me... not too mention for my specific use I don't really need anything too fancy... just need BT for my PLX Kiwi OBD adapter for my cars diagnostics
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It's still too early, but there are some ROMs actively being worked on (and I'm hoping we see official support for this tablet from CM soon). With the recent MacMall $219 flash sale on this (they must have sold thousands in one day), and attractive MSRP, there could be a lot of interest from major developers.
Balthazar B said:
It's still too early, but there are some ROMs actively being worked on (and I'm hoping we see official support for this tablet from CM soon). With the recent MacMall $219 flash sale on this (they must have sold thousands in one day), and attractive MSRP, there could be a lot of interest from major developers.
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Ebay tells you how much have been sold. It wasn't 500ish last I saw shortly before it ended.
I purchased the Samsung OTG cable and plugged it in the port. The cable has a female connector on the other end. I plugged in a 32GB thumb drive and it read it right away. I plugged in a small harddrive and the tablet reported that a high power device was plugged in and would not work without additional power. I paid $8.00 for the cable on amazon.com.
rapcon said:
I purchased the Samsung OTG cable and plugged it in the port. The cable has a female connector on the other end. I plugged in a 32GB thumb drive and it read it right away. I plugged in a small harddrive and the tablet reported that a high power device was plugged in and would not work without additional power. I paid $8.00 for the cable on amazon.com.
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Would you be able to provide a link to that cable?
Thanks for the info! Does a mouse/keyboard work with no issue? The USB stick -- did it auto-mount and what filesystem is it formatted with (ie FAT32)? -- I'm curious if for example a USB stick that is formatted in NTFS can be used..
On another note, this confirms that the device itself can handle USB OTG to some degree -- meaning the modules are in place in the stock kernel and the hardware itself is capable of putting out enough power to handle certain devices.
Hey guys,
I manage easily to mount 16gb USB stick using stick mount, but when it comes to my 1tb Toshiba self 2,5 drive, no way.
Is it actually possible to run these big boys on our tablets?? It works on my n7100....
if you can help i'll ne glad to hear from you
Cheers
wwwpuntoit said:
Hey guys,
I manage easily to mount 16gb USB stick using stick mount, but when it comes to my 1tb Toshiba self 2,5 drive, no way.
Is it actually possible to run these big boys on pur tablets?? It works on my n7100....
if you can help i'll ne glad to hear from you
Cheers
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Nobody has a clue ??
I'm pretty sure there's already a thread about this try searching it. I think someone had a similar issue with a500 gig hard drive and they got it working
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abdel12345 said:
I'm pretty sure there's already a thread about this try searching it. I think someone had a similar issue with a500 gig hard drive and they got it working
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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yes i've been doing some searching but no luck so far:crying:
wwwpuntoit said:
yes i've been doing some searching but no luck so far:crying:
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I'll try looking for it on a little and post it here if I find it because I'm sure I've seen one before
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abdel12345 said:
I'll try looking for it on a little and post it here if I find it because I'm sure I've seen one before
Sent from my Nexus 5 using xda app-developers app
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thanks mate, that's would nice if you could.
Ok it turned out the thread was about powering an external hard drive not connecting one but I found this app http://nexususb.blogspot.com/ called nexus media importer that say s it may work with hard drives. You should try it and see if it works.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990324 you can also check out this thread. I see some posts saying that they got it working as long as it's a self powered drive. One person said stickynount app let's you connect a similar hdd to yours but you need root.
abdel12345 said:
Ok it turned out the thread was about powering an external hard drive not connecting one but I found this app http://nexususb.blogspot.com/ called nexus media importer that say s it may work with hard drives. You should try it and see if it works.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990324 you can also check out this thread. I see some posts saying that they got it working as long as it's a self powered drive. One person said stickynount app let's you connect a similar hdd to yours but you need root.
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thanks i'll give these a try and report back
sort of
I don't have my ordered N10 yet but I do have N4 and N7 and I have connected 1TB USB storage before so have some experience. The answer is a possible yes, depending on a few factors. You got the power issue and the filesystem issue.
For power, there is only so much coming out of the Android's USB port and if your storage device is on the higher powered side and gets its power from USB then you can be screwed, so more likely to work are ones which have their own power supply. Or, you can find a kernel hack which lets OTG host mode (I think that's what it is called?) which uses a Y-cable which takes power in and provides a USB connector. I have such had such Y-cable work with a specific Nexus 7 kernel (Timur kernel on Android 4.2) and recently Ziddey's kernel on my Nexus 4 also.
For filesystem, Stickmount, supports NTFS read-only, so you can connect to android device a device which is read-write on say a laptop/PC and copy files off - to be honest that is good enough for what you'd intend to - a fast copy of large amount of files before you go away from home for example. Or, you can format the drive in a more native to Linux filesystem like ext2, ext3, ext4 to get read-write large file support. Depending on what you also connect that drive to it might work, e.g. there are some ext3 drivers for Windows, or you can have say a Rasberry PI running Debian as your LAN NAS host and unplug the drive and connect to Android.
I have a Seagate 500GB drive, formatted as NTFS, and it does work with my N4 and N7 and so I predict it also will work with my N10. I have a Hitachi 1TB drive, it does work on my N4 as there is the Y-cable USB power ziddey hack but only on my N7 if I keep it on 4.2.2 with the Timur kernel hack. So what I did is I keep the 1TB formatted ext3 connecting to a Linux NAS device (a Seagate dockstar running Debian but a Rasberry Pi running Rasbian would the modern equivalent), and the 500GB drive is what I use as my carry-around device which connects to all my devices for fast large file transfer.
What is your intended use for a 1TB connected to N10?
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I don't have my ordered N10 yet but I do have N4 and N7 and I have connected 1TB USB storage before so have some experience. The answer is a possible yes, depending on a few factors. You got the power issue and the filesystem issue.
For power, there is only so much coming out of the Android's USB port and if your storage device is on the higher powered side and gets its power from USB then you can be screwed, so more likely to work are ones which have their own power supply. Or, you can find a kernel hack which lets OTG host mode (I think that's what it is called?) which uses a Y-cable which takes power in and provides a USB connector. I have such had such Y-cable work with a specific Nexus 7 kernel (Timur kernel on Android 4.2) and recently Ziddey's kernel on my Nexus 4 also.
For filesystem, Stickmount, supports NTFS read-only, so you can connect to android device a device which is read-write on say a laptop/PC and copy files off - to be honest that is good enough for what you'd intend to - a fast copy of large amount of files before you go away from home for example. Or, you can format the drive in a more native to Linux filesystem like ext2, ext3, ext4 to get read-write large file support. Depending on what you also connect that drive to it might work, e.g. there are some ext3 drivers for Windows, or you can have say a Rasberry PI running Debian as your LAN NAS host and unplug the drive and connect to Android.
I have a Seagate 500GB drive, formatted as NTFS, and it does work with my N4 and N7 and so I predict it also will work with my N10. I have a Hitachi 1TB drive, it does work on my N4 as there is the Y-cable USB power ziddey hack but only on my N7 if I keep it on 4.2.2 with the Timur kernel hack. So what I did is I keep the 1TB formatted ext3 connecting to a Linux NAS device (a Seagate dockstar running Debian but a Rasberry Pi running Rasbian would the modern equivalent), and the 500GB drive is what I use as my carry-around device which connects to all my devices for fast large file transfer.
What is your intended use for a 1TB connected to N10?
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thanks mate for this answer
no particular use, maybe just movie playback
the point is that i have 2 1tb drives and i'm stuck not eing able to use them
using a y cable which should be connected to mains is not a solution for portability
would a smaller drive work without y cable ? or just usb sticks ? i did not understand fully
wwwpuntoit said:
thanks mate for this answer
no particular use, maybe just movie playback
the point is that i have 2 1tb drives and i'm stuck not eing able to use them
using a y cable which should be connected to mains is not a solution for portability
would a smaller drive work without y cable ? or just usb sticks ? i did not understand fully
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So what else will these 2 1TB drives connect to? A Windows desktop,a MAC desktop, some kind of NAS....? Because the answer to that determines the filesystem support.So you are connecting it to a Windows desktop, it has to be formatted NTFS, then use Stickmount and its NTFS instructions.
For a Nexus 10 I don't think a Y-cable is needed,begin with the regular OTG cable and cross your fingers they don't need so much power they fail to work.
If it turns out you need more power then you'll have to find a USB powered hub type thing, and for portability get an external USB battery, which in general, is a useful thing to have to charge phone, tablet, etc.
So... buy an OTG cable first, there are threads with "OTG cable known to work".
Format the drive in your chosen host system.e.g connect to the Windows desktop and format it NTFS, copy files to it.
Your N10 should be rooted.
On your N10 install stickmount app from Play, and copy the ntfs-3g to /sdcard as per the app's instructions.
Connect your 1TB drive and cross your fingers. It might not work 1st time, sometimes it is 2nd or 3rd time it is recognized.
Stickmount will mount it, if it all works, showing sda1 type message, go the folder it shows briefly on screen.
If stickmount doesn't show a sda1 type message try again.
If it doesn't work then consider a USB powered hub and find a recommended one, or give up.
You are far more likely to get lower powered device like a USB Flash stick, and FAT for smaller files, to work than 1TB harddrive drive.
I have my 1TB drive connected to the equivalent of a Rasberry Pi on my home router which acts as a NAS, I can access it over the Internet and copy files off it over home Wifi before I leave home. I carry a 500GB drive, because as I said as it happened my 1TB drive didn't work, my 500GB drive did work, its the luck of the milliamps and timing and Stickmount's sensing it.
Begin with buying the $3 OTG cable.
Y-cable, I had mine for my N7 for use of Timur kernel so I could connect to power and use a USB device, in my case a 4G dongle, so I could be online 4G connected for hours. The Y-cable can connect to a USB battery pack for not being tied to mains socket. The same Y-cable happens to solve a problem for my N4 which could not power a USB device. To illustrate this is my 500GB drive connected to USB battery and my N4, the cables are the Y-cable and from Y-cable to battery.
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If you want portability and power, then get the N10 Pogo cable it charges whilst your microsusb socket is kept empty to allow to connect to drives although I've not assembled that combination myself yet, so not sure it will work, by the time you get your OTG cable and tried, I should my N10 and my Pogo cable and speak more authoritatively less theoretically.
nigelhealy said:
So what else will these 2 1TB drives connect to? A Windows desktop,a MAC desktop, some kind of NAS....? Because the answer to that determines the filesystem support.So you are connecting it to a Windows desktop, it has to be formatted NTFS, then use Stickmount and its NTFS instructions.
For a Nexus 10 I don't think a Y-cable is needed,begin with the regular OTG cable and cross your fingers they don't need so much power they fail to work.
If it turns out you need more power then you'll have to find a USB powered hub type thing, and for portability get an external USB battery, which in general, is a useful thing to have to charge phone, tablet, etc.
So... buy an OTG cable first, there are threads with "OTG cable known to work".
Format the drive in your chosen host system.e.g connect to the Windows desktop and format it NTFS, copy files to it.
Your N10 should be rooted.
On your N10 install stickmount app from Play, and copy the ntfs-3g to /sdcard as per the app's instructions.
Connect your 1TB drive and cross your fingers. It might not work 1st time, sometimes it is 2nd or 3rd time it is recognized.
Stickmount will mount it, if it all works, showing sda1 type message, go the folder it shows briefly on screen.
If stickmount doesn't show a sda1 type message try again.
If it doesn't work then consider a USB powered hub and find a recommended one, or give up.
You are far more likely to get lower powered device like a USB Flash stick, and FAT for smaller files, to work than 1TB harddrive drive.
I have my 1TB drive connected to the equivalent of a Rasberry Pi on my home router which acts as a NAS, I can access it over the Internet and copy files off it over home Wifi before I leave home. I carry a 500GB drive, because as I said as it happened my 1TB drive didn't work, my 500GB drive did work, its the luck of the milliamps and timing and Stickmount's sensing it.
Begin with buying the $3 OTG cable.
Y-cable, I had mine for my N7 for use of Timur kernel so I could connect to power and use a USB device, in my case a 4G dongle, so I could be online 4G connected for hours. The Y-cable can connect to a USB battery pack for not being tied to mains socket. The same Y-cable happens to solve a problem for my N4 which could not power a USB device. To illustrate this is my 500GB drive connected to USB battery and my N4, the cables are the Y-cable and from Y-cable to battery.
If you want portability and power, then get the N10 Pogo cable it charges whilst your microsusb socket is kept empty to allow to connect to drives although I've not assembled that combination myself yet, so not sure it will work, by the time you get your OTG cable and tried, I should my N10 and my Pogo cable and speak more authoritatively less theoretically.
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Ok thanks again
By the way stickmount mounts sda1 ok but folder is shown ad empty and the drive itself makes some ticking noise
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Ok thanks again
By the way stickmount mounts sda1 ok but folder is shown ad empty and the drive itself makes some ticking noise
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So you had the OTG cable already. Why did you ask then?
Try NTFS checkdisk on Windows because often a Linux kernel won't mount a corrupted NTFS table whilst Windows will mount but nag a little about errors.
I don't use Windows, I run Linux desktop, its sudo ntfsfix command
Are you sure it is formatted NTFS???? You copied ntfs-3g to /sdcard ?
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So you had the OTG cable already. Why did you ask then?
Try NTFS checkdisk on Windows because often a Linux kernel won't mount a corrupted NTFS table whilst Windows will mount but nag a little about errors.
I don't use Windows, I run Linux desktop, its sudo ntfsfix command
Are you sure it is formatted NTFS???? You copied ntfs-3g to /sdcard ?
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I've put these files on che root of my SD, and now the 1tb is mounted properly, after a while though it starts ticking noise...maybe it's a sign it's not a good idea to plug it in because it might noto nave enough power to cicle properly althoug i can access files on it
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I've put these files on che root of my SD, and now the 1tb is mounted properly, after a while though it starts ticking noise...maybe it's a sign it's not a good idea to plug it in because it might noto nave enough power to cicle properly althoug i can access files on it
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So, actually, all you needed to was follow the instructions for Stickmount.
In your context of copying files off, count your blessings, it is working. Enjoy. Connect, copy files off to N10 internal storage, and disconnect.
That ticking is not a necessary sign of a problem, it is going to idle often, but it is actually working. I get that same ticking noise for my 1TB drive connected to my Seagate dockstar and its been running for like a year. I'd not leave it connected to the N10 more than you have to.
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So, actually, all you needed to was follow the instructions for Stickmount.
In your context of copying files off, count your blessings, it is working. Enjoy. Connect, copy files off to N10 internal storage, and disconnect.
That ticking is not a necessary sign of a problem, it is going to idle often, but it is actually working. I get that same ticking noise for my 1TB drive connected to my Seagate dockstar and its been running for like a year. I'd not leave it connected to the N10 more than you have to.
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Ok so The idea in the first place was to stream movies from that drive so that might be a little too much asking I guess
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Ok so The idea in the first place was to stream movies from that drive so that might be a little too much asking I guess
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.... but it does actually do it right? So the answer to the OP is yes?
I have not looked at all the config files of Android but my 500GB drive, which does work, makes a similar clicking noise on my N7 and N4 as does my 1TB on my Raspberry Pi. My Linux (Ubuntu) desktop has a SSD primary and a HDD secondary internal drives and the HDD does have a bit of a "wooshing" noise when active and some clicking. On my Linux desktop when I unplug from mains power it goes into "laptop mode" which is aggressive in turning off and going quiet the HDD.
So I'd not take the noise as a necessary sign of failure / unreliability, I'd take it as a sign of Android's aggressive power management minimizing power going out of USB. If it works.... (it does right?) then just enjoy it, but if only for battery life reasons, you'd consume less power to copy files to your N10 and unplug the external drive and then watch, than to watch directly off the external drive. That is my intention when I travel with my N10 to use with my 500GB drive.
Also, I'd consider reformatting the drive to ext3, as everything Linux is just plain superior to anything Microsoft.it is then natively recognised by Android better than the Stickmount ntfs-3g hack. Or, as a halfway option, format to FAT32, but then the biggest filesize is 4GB. I have files ~5GB in size so I can't use FAT32.
Do you have a Pogo cable? It allows charging without use of the usb socket. If you're seriously thinking about keeping the 1TB connected for long times, consider the Pogo cable option. I've got mine on order and I'll let you know if when the Pogo cable is plugged in, my 500GB drive works.
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.... but it does actually do it right? So the answer to the OP is yes?
I have not looked at all the config files of Android but my 500GB drive, which does work, makes a similar clicking noise on my N7 and N4 as does my 1TB on my Raspberry Pi. My Linux (Ubuntu) desktop has a SSD primary and a HDD secondary internal drives and the HDD does have a bit of a "wooshing" noise when active and some clicking. On my Linux desktop when I unplug from mains power it goes into "laptop mode" which is aggressive in turning off and going quiet the HDD.
So I'd not take the noise as a necessary sign of failure / unreliability, I'd take it as a sign of Android's aggressive power management minimizing power going out of USB. If it works.... (it does right?) then just enjoy it, but if only for battery life reasons, you'd consume less power to copy files to your N10 and unplug the external drive and then watch, than to watch directly off the external drive. That is my intention when I travel with my N10 to use with my 500GB drive.
Also, I'd consider reformatting the drive to ext3, as everything Linux is just plain superior to anything Microsoft.it is then natively recognised by Android better than the Stickmount ntfs-3g hack. Or, as a halfway option, format to FAT32, but then the biggest filesize is 4GB. I have files ~5GB in size so I can't use FAT32.
Do you have a Pogo cable? It allows charging without use of the usb socket. If you're seriously thinking about keeping the 1TB connected for long times, consider the Pogo cable option. I've got mine on order and I'll let you know if when the Pogo cable is plugged in, my 500GB drive works.
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No don't have any cable.. I run Ubuntu at home too but dual boot with win8 since I do require old Microsoft here and there and I would like my drive to be recognised in both os. Don't think ext3 is recognised in Windows, is it.. Anyway thanks for giving me advise
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No don't have any cable.. I run Ubuntu at home too but dual boot with win8 since I do require old Microsoft here and there and I would like my drive to be recognised in both os. Don't think ext3 is recognised in Windows, is it.. Anyway thanks for giving me advise
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I dual-booted for 20 years, currently running Win VM ontop of Ubuntu, my last attachment to Windoze was Slingplayer, now I tend to run that on my N7 and soon N10.
Ext3 can be recognised by Windows - a lot depends on what is your primary OS. Take a look at http://www.fs-driver.org/ and http://www.ext2fsd.com/
Pick your hack. Based on what you've said, you're done, I'd stick with NTFS as it works stable on Android read-only (your only need), read-write stable on Ubuntu and Windoze.
Right now my 1TB is ext3 on my Dockstar (Rasberry Pi is modern equivalent) and my 500GB is NTFS moving between laptop and Android. My 1TB is my primary file-server, my primary system to save media as it is away from coffee spills, etc. If I had two 1TB drives, I'd run them as RAID 1 mirror on a NAS just for data integrity and carry a smaller power-efficient harddrive around for media streaming on-the-go which I plug into the NAS/laptop/Android as needed to move large files around. Backup, backup, backup!
Phil Nickinson from AndroidCentral has posted that USB storage doesn't show up properly on the Nexus Player:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/+PhilNickinson/posts/MiyoNJmtGK8
Of course, it looks like he tried to directly plug in a USB key into the micro USB slot instead of using an OTG cable, if I'm not mistaken. If anyone who gets their shipment today could verify one way or the other that'd be very useful for those of us who can still cancel our pre-orders if USB storage is a no go.
Update: it is indeed supported but needs root for better visibility across apps.
The ADT-1 has a full USB port and a USB Key is unreadable in that as well. It doesn't mount.
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The ADT-1 has a full USB port and a USB Key is unreadable in that as well. It doesn't mount.
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Thanks for that. On the ADT-1 is their a way to make its USB port a master with a hub attached? Have you tried keys, hard drives, etc using a hub?
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The ADT-1 has a full USB port and a USB Key is unreadable in that as well. It doesn't mount.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjuanw_KLTc&feature=youtu.be
this guy is running emulators on an adt1 with all the roms on a flash drive he plugged in, so there must be a way to read it on the dev unit, if not the nexus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjuanw_KLTc&feature=youtu.be
this guy is running emulators on an adt1 with all the roms on a flash drive he plugged in, so there must be a way to read it on the dev unit, if not the nexus
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Interesting! I wonder what he's got it formatted as. . . time to start some testing (note: I tested this on the original OOB firmware, but haven't tested it since updating to 13D).
Update: Just used a jump drive and tried Fat32, ExFat, and ext4. . . no dice.
I've just opened a USB stick and installed an APK off it with my Nexus Player. I used OTG Disk Explorer Lite, which I had to sideload. I imagine StickMount will work great once we've got root, and any app could also do the same USB mounting probably.
USB drive was formatted FAT from Windows 7.
Good to hear the OTG cable works. Now I wonder if it'll take a keyboard or ethernet adapter.
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I'll be damned. So, I never bothered to root my ADT-1 (silly me). So, I just spend 2 minutes doing that, pushed the USB OTG apk over, and voila. I now have external storage. Holy hell. Let's see if my 1TB HDD works. . .
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Good to hear the OTG cable works. Now I wonder if it'll take a keyboard or ethernet adapter.
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Keyboard, mouse, and Ethernet all work. Some new gigabit Ethernet adapters won't work though; you have to get one that was supported as of Linux kernel 3.10.
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I've just opened a USB stick and installed an APK off it with my Nexus Player. I used OTG Disk Explorer Lite, which I had to sideload. I imagine StickMount will work great once we've got root, and any app could also do the same USB mounting probably.
USB drive was formatted FAT from Windows 7.
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Question for you. Have you tried navigating to the external storage using Root Explorer or anything similar? The only way I can seem to access the content on my drive is through the OTG app, which is kind of a bummer for what I have in mind.
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Question for you. Have you tried navigating to the external storage using Root Explorer or anything similar? The only way I can seem to access the content on my drive is through the OTG app, which is kind of a bummer for what I have in mind.
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So far I've only got it working through the OTG app. I think if I got StickMount working, that would enable it to work through other apps.
Interestingly, I installed XBMC (Kodi 14 Beta 1) and then used the OTG app to select an MKV file off the USB stick. It then opened it with XBMC and played. But when I tried to navigate storage with XBMC, it couldn't find the USB stick by itself.
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So far I've only got it working through the OTG app. I think if I got StickMount working, that would enable it to work through other apps.
Interestingly, I installed XBMC (Kodi 14 Beta 1) and then used the OTG app to select an MKV file off the USB stick. It then opened it with XBMC and played. But when I tried to navigate storage with XBMC, it couldn't find the USB stick by itself.
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Problem solved. So, the rooting and installing an OTG app was only half of it. You also need to disable SELinux. This app did the trick. After installing it, setting permissive, and rebooting, I'm in business.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux
Note: This is on the ADT-1, but I would think the implementation should be nearly identical once the NP gets root.
hi can you please add instructions on how to sideload applications because I'm getting mine shipped next week and would like to sideload xbmc thanks in advance to however helps this site has helped me alot in the past. I don't plan on using my player for games just tv
Mi|enko said:
Problem solved. So, the rooting and installing an OTG app was only half of it. You also need to disable SELinux. This app did the trick. After installing it, setting permissive, and rebooting, I'm in business.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux
Note: This is on the ADT-1, but I would think the implementation should be nearly identical once the NP gets root.
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so what exactly is solved now?? can you browse the drive using xbmc or any file explorer app?
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so what exactly is solved now?? can you browse the drive using xbmc or any file explorer app?
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Yes that's what he meant.
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According to Phil Nickinson over at Android Central, it looks like external storage is possible via a USB OTG cable. I'd post the link...but, the 10 post limit thing is holding a brutha back.
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According to Phil Nickinson over at Android Central, it looks like external storage is possible via a USB OTG cable. I'd post the link...but, the 10 post limit thing is holding a brutha back.
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Thanks for the heads up... this is very good news. Here's the link:
The Nexus Player works with external storage and USB ethernet
I have an ADT 1 and my hard drives and all things work after mounting from USB OTG Helper. Needed to root first.
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It's possible for Nexus Player too. Just wait until you get the root
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I have an ADT 1 and my hard drives and all things work after mounting from USB OTG Helper. Needed to root first.
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It's possible for Nexus Player too. Just wait until you get the root
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so usb otg is supported for the adt-1 ? everything is working well ?
For me it does
Hi everyone,
I was wondering if we can connect multiple external HDD. I read that the shield tv can only recognize one connected at once?
I tried with xplore to connect 2 external HDD and it doesn't show my 2 HDD , only the last one connected. :/
Am i missing something?
Thank you.
As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
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As far as I know the Shield should be able to recognize multiple external drives (they are named and tagged uniquely). For curiosity sake; Are you using the 2017 version? Rooted? Are they both attached directly to the Shield or are you using a (powered) USB hub?
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Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
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Thanks for your answer !
Yes i'm using the 2017 pro version non rooted and both HDD are directly plugged into the shield (no hub) .
Do you use an other file manager to see two external drives connected at the same time? both HDDs work well with Xplore but only when one is connected.
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It looks like I have to get back at my previous statement. Turns out that what I thought was general Android-practice is actually a feature of the roms I use (on other devices). On top of that I guess my own current situation is slightly different than yours; while I do have both a thumbdrive and a HDD attached I have adopted the thumbdrive, so it's not counted as an external drive. If I open Xplore I can therefore see both loaded.
Since I feel a bit like an arse I did some digging to see if there is anything you could do to hook up both drives. Turns out there's more people that have run into this here including a very descriptive solution should you have 2 identical HDD's. Otherwise, below a list of possible solutions;
If you are rooted, or willing to do so.
There is an app called "StickMount" by Chainfire which basically allows you to hook up multiple external drives and even symlink them. The catch is; I am not able to test this since myself I'm not willing to root my Shield 2017 just yet.
If you aren't rooted.
There are a few things you could do.
1] The solution I went for myself; buy one big USB 3.0 drive (I went for a 5TB one) and transfer all your stuff.
2] You could choose to adopt one of the drives as internal storage. There are some glaring downsides to this though; you can no longer attach that drive to other devices, it will at first wipe the drive and if its not a fast HDD it is going to lag your Shield down. Also, since your Pro already *is* 500GB and you would basically swap that space for one of your HDDs you'd have to consider whether or not it is worth the effort.
3] A somewhat farfetched solution; should you happen to have a modem that supports hosting a HDD as as NAS, you could use that to hook it up remotely. It's not as fast, but technically it is a solution.