Help me out here, I think my G2 which used to be a battery champ is now absolutely awful. I don't really know if it's the phone going wrong or my different usage and the way apps might have evolved.
I think the phone is also heating up way more than it used to do. In fact, I never used to notice the phone getting warm at all and never knew what people with SD810 phones were talking about. If I happen to run a game like Boom Beach or Fallout Shelter for 5 minutes, not only the battery suffers a huge drop, the phone gets almost uncomfortably hot (*). These games can kill the battery in 1:30 hours of SOT which I think isn't probably normal.
The numbers I now have to show are of the phone fully charged last night before going to bed, turning the phone off and then turning it on to clean running ups, etc and left idle while sleeping.
Went to bed with a full battery at around 4:30 AM and it's now 15:46 and battery is down to 64%. Turned the screen at 13:00 to see notifications and browse through news, made a single phone call that must have lasted less than 10 minutes. Pictures, although I think they won't help much except for the SOT:
I bought this phone used and I think it was refurbished. Came from Spain (I'm in Portugal) and happens to be an AT&T version. Screen was always a bit dark and a panel that I believe has been replaced. I think the screen is also going, sometimes it won't respond to touches on the far right edge.
I have it running on the official Lollipop firmware that I manually flashed (no OTA here) but I've tried different ROMs to see if they make any difference (Cloudy 2.2 and 3.3., CM13 and Blisspop Marshmallow). They don't, battery behavior is the same, phone heats up.
I need to know if this is normal for you guys still using the phone (software evolves and maybe things are more demanding on this old phone) or if something is wrong with mine. If it is, I need to think about sending it for repair (probably not worth it) or get a new one.
Not the best of times for me to be spending money on stuff like this but I'm really starting not to trust this phone, carrying the charger with me all the time and have a nasty suspetion screen might die for good one of these days.
Any feedback much appreciated!!
(*) Gets hot mainly on the top back, near the camera lens. Sometimes screen gets also hot but I think it might be due to heat transfer from the back.
I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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I would replace the battery. Li-on batteries typically don't last for more than two to three years. Useful life span depends on how deep the average usage cycle is. I typically try to keep them from going below 40%. An old battery that no longer holds a good charge can cause similar problems. Most rechargeable batteries, including lead-acid automotive batteries in general, suffer from deep cycle charging.
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Yeh, I know...
I tested it a bit more and at least now I know it is definitely draining way faster than it ever did and I don't see anything that is especially killing the battery (kept off games that I don't even play so much anyway). Oh well, time for a new one I guess. I have been postponing buying one until all these new 2016 main phones came out and they are all pretty much out already.
After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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After running certain apps, or sometimes after connecting to USB in the car, the G2 will go into an overheating condition, with the battery charge rapidly falling. I just reboot it to clear it, and it's back to normal.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Tried that, even made two more factory re-sets. No good, same results... poor thing is going, I'm already convinced of that. It's draining about 1% per minute with screen on, regardless of what I'm doing. About 12% drain with it just sitting on my night table for 6 hours while I was sleeping.
Trying to find a replacement now which is driving me insane.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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Well, replacement batteries are a lot cheaper than phones. Why not replace the battery, and squeeze a little more life out of it? Would also serve as a backup phone after you do get a replacement.
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I'm pretty sure battery isn't the only thing going bad, screen sometimes doesn't respond or respond weird. Mine is already a refurbished unit that I bought because it was the best, cheapest and quicker to get phone after drowning the one I had before. It's not factory refurnished though, some guy in a shed did it. Worked very well until now though but I prefer just to get something that is new instead of paying for the repair of one thing and having another breaking the week after that.
It's going to be either another G2 (found one that seems to be an unused unit but seller hasn't got back to me yet and it would cost pretty much the same or less than a battery/screen replacement) or I'll just get some other recent flagshipy phone that will allow me not to think about phones for at least the next 3 years. Not really sure what that would be but hey..
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Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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Hi, I been having the HTC Surround for a little over a week now. I love the look and feel to it (I know OS wise it has a lot of improvements to do but I'm willing to put up with it for a bit, considering its a new OS). However one thing I notice is that it has horrible battery life! The phone last about 10/12 Hrs on a full charge. During this time period, there is no heavy use; tops 50 txt messages send and received, about an hour of music, screen lock (brightness set to low, when on), perhaps 15 minutes of talk time, data connection turn off, about 20 minutes of WiFi (I turn off WiFi when not in use), rest of the time on stand by as mention before (with the screen locked). Another thing i noticed yesterday night was that my phone was charge completely, i left it on stand by and within 5 hrs that i slept the phone had gone a little lower than 3/4ths (data connection was off).
I read a post here that said battery may drain quicker when phone is left in cold weather and i thought maybe this could be the case. However I'm really skeptical because i live in Los Angeles. Cold weather, which is this time of the year, is mid 40 degrees at its lowest! That's not cold! But anyways i guess I'll try putting that theory on a test (imma try keeping it warm, see if it makes a difference)
so is anyone else experiencing horrible battery life? Or am I just an unlucky person who got a defective battery?
THANKS in advance
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What "theme" are you using?
If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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I'm using a black background and lime tiles...
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If I don't use my phone, it will last for days. Even when I use it through out the day, it lasts well into the next morning/afternoon.
The battery life does get better the more you drain/charge it.
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well, I been having it for a week now. I seen no difference in battery life. But imma give it another week or so. See if this works. Then I'm gonna try buying different battery. If that doesn't help, I think I'm going to have to switch back to my Samsung Captivate. I would hate doing this, but this type of battery life is a deal breaker. Today, it was even worse! It lasted me only 9hrs while I was at work, which at least 8 of those hrs it was on stand by!
Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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Sounds like you have a bad battery, bro. I'd get it replaced at the store you bought it from.
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yeah, I'm going to try this on my day off which is on Monday. Also gives me time to test out the other persons suggestion
thanks for your opinions. I'll get back to you guys and see what happens.
My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I have noticed that the Bluetooth drains the battery considerably faster. Try turning Bluetooth off when you don't need it.
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I don't use the Bluetooth at all. So this can't be the problem. but thanks anyways. (I might need this information since I was planing on using one in the near future).
So I notice that now, my Surround does get better battery life. (which is absolutely crazy! since now I have the screen brightness on medium and data turn on lol). I guess the battery just needed to be use and charge a bit more. However, I still think battery life could be improved. (hopefully, future updates will teak some system settings that will do this)
I have also decided that I will keep my Surround instead of going back to my Captivate I wish battery life would be better and the OS to be more "open" but truth be told, I fell in love with my phone haha Then when i went back to my Samsung Captivate, it felt weird. Android felt much slower.
So i gave it a little test; I launched messaging, email, music, browser, etc on both phones at the same time. Turns out both of them launch these native applications in the same amount of time.
I guess what makes WP7 fell smother and faster is the (eyecandy) transitions.
think its the battery
ya i have had mine for 2 weeks now and i think the problem is the fact that the battery is a 1230mAh, and we also have a samsung focus with a 1450mAh battery that will last an exra 2-3 hours longer which makes a huge difference! im hoping htc will make a larger mAh battery avaliable, mine will only last anywhere from 5-7 hours from normal use
I just ordered a Mugen 1300mah battery..not *much* more capacity, but hopefully it helps a bit!
if i dont use my surround (like not using too much 3g, wifi, music, gaming, and just normal phone calls and texts) it can last a whole day and probably a lil more, but when i do too much 3g/wifi/gaming/music it drains quickkkkkk.
and i do hope htc will have a larger capacity battery for the surround soon... 1230 is kinda small compare to other phones nowadays..
but still this has much better battery life than my previous phones (diamond2 and touchpro)
i just find myself carrying the usb cable and wall charger alot in my bag :]
and having a car charger is a plus also.
My girlfreind has had the phone since xmas. Initially the battery would lose its charge very quickly. I had her do a bump charge and just let the battery settle in. She can now go up a third day wothout the need for a charge with moderate txt.
Be aware the quick drop whenn taking it off the charger is NORMAL. Read this thread for a discussion of that http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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Agree - Bad Battery Life - But not as bad as some....
Smart phones, in general, aren't what I would call great at conserving battery life under any condition. Pick any model of high-end smart phone and tell me who can get more than 2 days (using every trick in the book to eliminate unnecessary drain). Yes, this phone is under-powered in terms of only having a 1300 mAh battery when it should have a 1400 or 1500.
Cut the unnecessary stuff when you are not using it - Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.
You can easily get a day + out of this phone with moderate/mixed use (some talking, some browsing, some multi-media viewing). That's pretty good, I'd say (from my relative experience across many different types of smart phones). I just plug it in every night.....pick it up in the morning and go. Haven't had any issues with it running out during the day.
Now, if you are starting first thing in the morning and running movies, have the bluetooth going, the WiFi on........well, heck yes, you are going to have a battery drain problem. If you want to run it that way.....just leave it plugged in.
Has anyone used a Seidio Innocell 1300mAh Replacement battery? Was wondering if it was worth the investment to improve the Surround's poor battery performance.
Thanks,
So...when is someone gonna step up to the plate and improve battery technology? It really sucks that these phone manufacturers are giving us ALL these fancy features that drain the battery and when we complain about having poor battery life they are telling us to not use all those fancy features...kinda defeats the purpose of buying a smartphone, am I right?
guys .. wake PLZ UP ))
1 ghz (1-2 core cpu ) ..
3.8 and more screen ..
DEDICATED GRAPHICS .
OS .
with DIRECTX9 Interface .
and that all spiced up with 1600 ma battery in best case .
and that you wana to run more then 6 hours on full load ? say THX TO MS .. for NON multitask os .. overwise battery life was even more lol then this
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My surround - now two weeks old is showing much improved battery life. It didn't make it through a day when I first got it. Part of that was due to my fiddling with it and part due - I think - to the battery conditioning.
Now, it is going a full day on a charge. I am also switching off 3G and on WiFi when I am in my office or home. It is a bit of a pain in the butt and I hope that M$ gives up some APIs soon so that someone - cough Bruce Jackson cough - will write an app. We'll see.
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I noticed this as well. As time went by the battery actually started to last longer. When i first got it i used it less than i do now and the battery would die before i even got home for work. Now it lasts till about an hour or so after i finish and get home.
does the surround use the same battery as the HTC desire HD?
Theres an ebay seller that is selling a surround battery and wall charger but the wall charger has a sticker that says: For HTC Desire HD
Ok my gf has gotten the surround for xmas. I wanted to see others battery usage. In essrnce how long does your battery last. Hers seems to die pretty fast and was curiuos if this is common for these phones. I would give an estimate of the time but cant atm bit will tm.
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Ok my gf has gotten the surround for xmas. I wanted to see others battery usage. In essrnce how long does your battery last. Hers seems to die pretty fast and was curiuos if this is common for these phones. I would give an estimate of the time but cant atm bit will tm.
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Lots of complaints on the web about this. I've had mine a few days. In my experience, like all smartphones, doing a lot of stuff (like, the things you'd do with a new phone the first few days you have it) will drain it quickly. Once you settle into a normal usage pattern, you'll probably see an improvement.
The "bad battery life" complaint always seems to come from people the first few days they own a phone and are basically turning it on and fiddling with it every 30 seconds. When used like a smartphone is normally used, you shouldn't have a problem getting through a full day with it.
Oh i know bout battery life. I got the incredible. Only 12 hours charge(but i use alot).
Thanks for the response though. Just seeing if the fast battery drain is normal for this phone. She is deffinately not a heavy user besides txt. But it seems a fast battery drain is normal. So its cool
Do you use a battery charging technique called "bump charching"?
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Battery gets conditioned as you use it. Just keep using it and in about a week you should get normal battery life. The issue is that the os handles both charging and discharging so after a few uses the battery and the os reach its peak performance
I believe it is alteady beggining to condition. She's just not used to having such battery drain. Its seems more stable in its level of drain. I also had her "bump" charge. To get a full capacitu battery. I notices these phone only have a 1250mwh batterys.
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Battery gets conditioned as you use it. Just keep using it and in about a week you should get normal battery life. The issue is that the os handles both charging and discharging so after a few uses the battery and the os reach its peak performance
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Battery life is horrid compared to the Fuze. I get anywhere from 12-14 hours before needing a recharge and I have been several charge cycles. I suggest turning off data connections when possible and using wifi.
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My htc surround also consumes a lot of energy. So today I entered in SETTING > CELLULAR > and turned OFF data connection. I think this is change may save a lot of energy, at least I can use this strategy whenever I dont need the data connection.
Lets see what happens
1500mAH Batteries on eBay
The stock battery that comes with the HTC Surround is only 1230mAH (or something on that order). There are several sellers on eBay who sell an aftermarket battery like this one: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130467721933, which is actually a package of three batteries and a charger for $12.99 with free shipping - perfect for me and my wife to use and always have a freshly charged spare.
These batteries should give a little better than 20% improvement in battery life over the stock one. Does anyone here have any experience with them?
Sorry for the cut and paste link - as a new user I am apparently guilty of spamming before I had even thought of it (like Minority Report).
As of now she gets between 2 to 3 days use with medium txting.
Can any body else report on their battery lifes.
Also has anyone bump charged and seen an increase in their battery charge.
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I use my data connection constantly, never shutting it off. Also, I spend about half of my day in the center of a building not getting any reception, consistently going from an area with service to one without, which has the phone searching endlessly for a signal. For the first week, the battery was drained within 12 hours, but now in the second week, I have about half of the battery left when i get home, play games, check email, do EVERYTHING, and probably have about 25% when i get into bed and only plug it in as I go to sleep. On previous phones, I would have been able to do this two days in a row.
I came from a Tilt 2 and ended up getting an extended battery (making the phone HUGE), though I see no problem plugging the phone in every night. Battery life is getting better and I'm not sure who NEEDS to go multiple days without a charge. Either you make your phone huge, or you plug it every night right next to you anyway.
I am very happy with the phone, and can't wait to do more with it.
Was thinking about replacing the battery on my XT1625 since it is getting pretty bad in terms of holding a charge. Won't be too bad to get to it even though it is supposedly not removable since you can still get the back of the phone off.
But wondering where anyone bought their replacement. Most come from China and are crap, so would rather not go that route. But I don't see many for sale...
How much sot are you getting...what are the issues
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How much sot are you getting...what are the issues
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I have to charge at least once during a normal work day, so looking to put a fresh battery in there. Admittedly I am a heavy user, but I used to get a lot more life out of a charge, making it through an entire work day without charging. In 2.5 hours its saying I used 58% of my battery (9% screen time, the rest generally split among a bunch of things), so its not as good as it used to be.
6P has been shutting down early for a while now, usually like 10% or less which never really bothered me. Battery life seemed decent, but I never really tracked it.
Last week it started going off at 15-30% at times. But it can be random. Might go below 10% one time, next shuts off at 30%. This was on a prior version of Pure Nexus. So I tried updating to the latest build. First charge it shut down at 40%. Same crap tho, random shut off times. Today it shut down at 48%. By shut down, I mean it just suddenly gives the low battery warning, reports 0% and turns off. Many times I can restart the phone, and it will say like 1-3%, and let me use it for a while before turning off again. This most recent one at the 48% shutdown, I restarted it, showed 1%, used it for a while before it turned off again. Restarted, now shows 18%.
Wtf? Is this just a charge level reporting issue? Tried battery repair/calibration apps/techniques with no success. Nothing looks bad with regards to apps/services draining the battery. I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?
It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck. ?
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Wtf? I tried accubattery and says I'm at 70% health. Don't even get 2 hours of SOT. Have a replacement battery in the mail. Think this will solve the issues?
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.
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It's known issue with some factory battery's for some reason the phone is thinking the battery is low and shutting down even though it's reporting let's say 50%. I didn't have this issue until I bought a cheap replacement would shut down at random percentages especially when opening something power hungry like camera. The only thing you can do is get a replacement and change or send it in to get changed. If you replace it yourself I suggest testing the battery before you put the phone back together. I think the 6p is a great phone and worth it to replace the battery. That just my opinion best of luck.
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Interesting. Did notice a couple of the times it shut down, and it was this last time at 48% as well, was when opening a power hungry game. And yes I agree the 6p is still awesome today, by far the longest I've had a phone. Considered getting the Pixel 2 XL, but it's a waste of money to me if I can get the 6P working well again.
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@ 70% your battery has been toast for quite a while. This degradation doesn't happen overnight. If you did your research and purchased one of the "good" replacement batteries from a known good vendor then, yes it will likely completely solve your problem. If you just bought a random battery from Ebay or BFE, then you may have another dud on your hands. Suggest testing the new battery with Accubattery before sealing it back up. Best of luck.
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Hmm, yeah I grabbed one off ebay. Had over 500 sold though, so hopefully not too terrible, but I will test.
I think it has really degraded in the last ~6 months. Possibly from numerous partial charges? Got a new job in April, and I'm often traveling to different sites only 10-15 minutes apart. During this time plug it into my car for Android Auto.
Thanks for the help guys!
In the same boat (But I have a solution for me)
2 weeks ago I upgraded from a beaten GS6 Edge and I am quite fond of my new phone. However I started experiencing this issue, ignored it for the first week since my S6 at 100% battery would die in an hour or two, if I'm lucky. Then the battery problem became an interest to me. I had read a lot of threads on the issue, some saying its a hardware problem, and some saying just a software bug that hasn't (or can't) be fixed. SOOOO at this point I said screw it and just accepted my phone battery as it is. Installed Dirty Unicorns Rom, messed with settings, and boom a breakthrough (I think). DU has a feature called smart pixels in which to save battery life turns off a percentage of the pixels. Wasn't to fond of this at first, but in order to make my 60 - 70 percent battery last i set it to the lowest setting. Every since then I have had maybe one random shutdown, it's only been a week and a lot could change but for me its working pretty well.
Sidenote: I found that not using camera apps, nor Google assistant had also prevented random shutdowns (this helped me with smart pixels enabled and disabled, if you wanna give it ago on stock)
Hello guys. I am experiencing random shutting downs on my phone too. I bought it in January 2017.
What I have observed and today was confirmed is that I have these unexpected shutting down when I charge the phone with fast charge. Today my phone was at 60% and shut down. When I plugged my phone on the charger, the phone was again at 60%!!! How was it possible? I think the problem might be the battery or the internal controller of the charging system...
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
Mine is original bought from Amazon deal 1 1/2 years ago. The battery is still great. Fully charged at 9:30pm, next morning at 6:00am, the battery is 97%.
Phone never got dropped or water damage. I took good care of it, and hoping I can use it until Black Friday this year.
It sounds like @chanh2018 doesn't charge the phone way past when it's full. The PH-1 is one of the (many) devices that do not stop charging and draw from the charger when full.
If your use of the phone is different, the device gets run down then fully charged repetitively, then the wear on your battery will be higher. These comparisons are not really valid because of people's different habits.
My PH-1 battery is in good shape, even though it spends a silly amount of time on a charger. I use a Magisk adjacent (there is a module, also an app but I install by script) project called Advanced Charging Controller (ACC). When the upper charge level is reached, on the PH-1, it stops charging and discharges to the lower set-point. On a normal day, that range is 70%-80%. If I'm using the screen for a long period, like navigation, the same is 40%-41%.
I've done something similar since my N6 and have had little battery trouble.
That makes sense - I'm always plugging my phone before going to bed and let it charge until the morning so that might explain my battery issue.
I thought it was smart enough to stop charging for a while when 100% was reached... I'll pay attention to that when I get my new battery!
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That makes sense - I'm always plugging my phone before going to bed and let it charge until the morning so that might explain my battery issue.
I thought it was smart enough to stop charging for a while when 100% was reached... I'll pay attention to that when I get my new battery!
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Well....I don't charge my phone overnight, but I always let it goes up to 100% and I don't have any issue with it.
It's been 1 1/2 year and still running like first day. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Well....I don't charge my phone overnight, but I always let it goes up to 100% and I don't have any issue with it.
It's been 1 1/2 year and still running like first day. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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There are many factors that influence battery condition. Factors like heat, both ambient and charging related, the speed of charging(e.g. quick vrs trickle), the depth of discharge/charge. An in depth writing on the subject is available at the battery university.
liquor said:
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
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Worked the battery change for you? Since three days I have also heavy battery drain. It needs around 140mAh per hour screen off. My battery health is only 66% said accubattery. I also tried a factory reset...didnt worked. The Phone is like yours 1,5 years old.
I love it too and dont want to change :/
liquor said:
Still love my essential after 1.5 years but been having a few issues lately:
First there is this blue spot that appeared on my screen last month
Second i'm experiencing serious battery issues : battery drains super quickly and often shut down phone around 50%. A few months ago I had excellent battery life (whole day without needing to charge), even on latest Android 10 (stock non rooted). I tried a few things including a factory reset without any success...
Screen issue I can live with but battery no... so I ordered a battery from aliexpress and prepare mentally for the repair with this video . Any further advice?
My essential was refurbished so it may explain the short battery life but I am wondering if alot of ph1 owners still run fine on original battery after 2 years? Mine was also dropped in water 6 months ago but without immediate issues but could be related to recent problems I am facing now
Anyhow, would really like to rock this phone at least 6 more months!
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Another possibility is that there is some current leakage due to moisture maybe via dendritic growth which could cause current to leak after dendrites have had time to grow.
(As you dropped in water and/or due to reconditioning work leaving residue on PCB dendrites is more likely to occur as rework normally use no clean soldiering products & likely less clean working methods than factory)
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Worked the battery change for you? Since three days I have also heavy battery drain. It needs around 140mAh per hour screen off. My battery health is only 66% said accubattery. I also tried a factory reset...didnt worked. The Phone is like yours 1,5 years old.
I love it too and dont want to change :/
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Could be battery failing (not sure how those battery apps calculate rating) though I'd also be looking at a recent app update being incompatible first for such sudden onset (any apps showing higher than normal battery usage) or maybe issue with your wifi/data
My PH-1 is also 1.5 years old and is now having serious battery issues. About two months ago my phone went from "feeling normal" to losing about 3-4 hours of charge per day. On new years day my phone hit 50% and shut off. The phone was not hot at that time. Since that shut-off event my battery only lasts about a quarter of what it would as new.
It would be nice if Essential offered a service to replace the batteries for a fee. I would really like to see replaceable batteries come back in style.
JD
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Another possibility is that there is some current leakage due to moisture maybe via dendritic growth which could cause current to leak after dendrites have had time to grow.
(As you dropped in water and/or due to reconditioning work leaving residue on PCB dendrites is more likely to occur as rework normally use no clean soldiering products & likely less clean working methods than factory)
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Could be battery failing (not sure how those battery apps calculate rating) though I'd also be looking at a recent app update being incompatible first for such sudden onset (any apps showing higher than normal battery usage) or maybe issue with your wifi/data
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It was the wifi Adapter. I would not habe thought but after disable it I got my old, for one day sufficient battery drain back. I have enough mobile data to live without wifi...not the best Solution but its okay.
I just changed out my battery over the weekend. It was actually much easier than the videos on the web lead you to believe. Now i have tons of battery life and it's back to the way it was when i first bought the phone. Very happy!!
JD
JudasD said:
I just changed out my battery over the weekend. It was actually much easier than the videos on the web lead you to believe. Now i have tons of battery life and it's back to the way it was when i first bought the phone. Very happy!!
JD
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Sweet. Where did you get the battery and which video guide do you recommend? According to AccuBattery my battery's health is 85% but feels like 50!
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eKeith said:
Sweet. Where did you get the battery and which video guide do you recommend? According to AccuBattery my battery's health is 85% but feels like 50!
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For me accubattery said 45% and it really did feel like 45%! LOL
The battery i used was from amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T28KL8B/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I did not do any research on the battery. it was the only one i could find that would get here quickly. So far it is working fine, but time will be the true judge.
main videos to use is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCKxAQXdTJ8&t=618s
the main guide to use is:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Essential+Phone+Battery+Replacement/123496
The video is good in that it shows the heat gun to use and how to use it. The only downside to the video is they give the impression that the suction does more than it really does. (this is where the guide below comes in) For me it was a mix of suction cup and very light prying.
The guide is by iFixit and it is very helpful. IMPORTANT: DO NOT THE IFIXIT YOUTUBE VIDEO, IT IS NO GOOD!
The iFixit guide shows you where to make your initial tool insertion (i used a playing card edge) and how deep you actually have to play with around the edges. I also did not use scalpels like they do in the guide. I used only playing cards as it is MUCH safer when going around the edges. The playing cards can cut the adhesive, but will not cut the screen substrate. WARNING: THE PLAYING CARDS CAN STILL LIFT THE SUBSTRATE IF YOU GET TOO AGGRESSIVE, THEY JUST CANNOT CUT IT. BE CAREFUL AS YOU CAN STILL CAUSE DAMAGE.
In summary, the approach is a mix of heatgun and suction cup with playing cards around the edges. Take your time. It took me about 30 mins to get the screen off. After that it is super easy, just be patient.
I'll gladly answer any questions you might have.
Good Luck,
JD
Great! Thanks much for taking the time to share such detailed info.
I think that I will wait a little longer until my battery gets worse but I have bookmarked your references...
I also changed my battery last weekend but used a combination of guitar picks / scalpel / playing cards to decouple the screen after heating the edges with hairdryer.
Result : I damaged my screen so I prime ordered a new one for 80$ CAD. Once connected, I used b7000 glue carefully on the frame edges and put the phone under a big book for 24h.
Phone now feels like new and I hope it for last a while...