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After playing with the Lollipop build for a while on the Moto X 14, I think for me the biggest thing that will take the most getting used to on the N6 is not having Moto display. Sure Googles implementation is OK, but no where near as useful ad Moto's.
Cant beat picking up the phone and having your messages show up. Or better yet waiving your hand over the display to light it up.
This and moto assist are the only reason I may hang on to my Moto X 14. I use the hand wave feature frequently. Way more than i thought i would. Moto assist for driving and at home is so convenient. It's like having Amazon's echo wherever you are. Sure the N6 has always listening but I don't think you can answer phone calls and reply to messages hands free.
If the moto apps can be hacked to work on the N6 I may go for it.
jmill75 said:
Cant beat picking up the phone and having your messages show up.
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That's how it works on the N6.
Try agent app. That's a good replacement for talking and replying back to texts while driving. Dynamic notifications is almost exactly like moto display
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I need to get a new phone, and the only thing keeping me from the Nexus 6 is the lack of Moto Display/Moto Suite/Moto Voice, etc. I've yet to hear from a 2014 Moto X user who says that they wouldn't miss it.
The way it works on the nexus is when you pick up the phone the active display turns on. The same as the moto
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The way it works on the nexus is when you pick up the phone the active display turns on. The same as the moto
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The Moto X's active display also pulses like a notification LED, and you can also just wave your hand over it to get it to turn on.
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The Moto X's active display also pulses like a notification LED, and you can also just wave your hand over it to get it to turn on.
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The N6 version pulses as well, so it's only missing the wave function.
Credit & Thanks to biggiestuff for the following:
"Ambient display looks similar but in no way is close to moto display. Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery. The minute you interact with ambient display the screen fires up 100 percent. Moto display let's you interact without ever using the primary processor until you unlock. It's a step in the right direction but not there just yet."
Battery impact will be substantially greater.
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Credit & Thanks to biggiestuff for the following:
"Ambient display looks similar but in no way is close to moto display. Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery. The minute you interact with ambient display the screen fires up 100 percent. Moto display let's you interact without ever using the primary processor until you unlock. It's a step in the right direction but not there just yet."
Battery impact will be substantially greater.
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Uuhm... i'm sorry.... but i'd personally be questioning biggiestuff's basis for his comment. Watch video's of "Moto Display", and then watch the video of Ambient Display. There is physically no difference as to how one functions compared to the other. In Lollipop's Ambient Display, you get the typical Lollipop notification look, with the notifications showing up under the clock, also saying what the notification is, what was said in the text message, etc... When you interact with a particular notification, yes, the display turns on completely. Then look at "Moto Display". Yes, you can touch the screen to "interact" with them... but with either system, the display has to be turned on to do anything more than that. Only difference i can see is that Moto Display uses less pixels, since it only lights up up to 3 circles with the app icon in the middle, unless you have more than 3 notifications.... at which point you get a menu-like notification as the 3rd one.
Long story short...
Ambient Display = notifications are displayed on screen, and interacting with them (to see your list of e-mails/texts received, or opening the app directly from the notification) powers the display on completely.
Moto Display = Notification icons are displayed on screen. Interacting with those allows you to see what the notification says. Interacting FURTHER powers the display on completely to open the app so you can do what you need to do.
No difference at all power requirement wise (except for the minuscule amount of power needed for the couple extra pixels in Ambient Display) that i can see.
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Uuhm... i'm sorry.... but i'd personally be questioning biggiestuff's basis for his comment. Watch video's of "Moto Display", and then watch the video of Ambient Display. There is physically no difference as to how one functions compared to the other. In Lollipop's Ambient Display, you get the typical Lollipop notification look, with the notifications showing up under the clock, also saying what the notification is, what was said in the text message, etc... When you interact with a particular notification, yes, the display turns on completely. Then look at "Moto Display". Yes, you can touch the screen to "interact" with them... but with either system, the display has to be turned on to do anything more than that. Only difference i can see is that Moto Display uses less pixels, since it only lights up up to 3 circles with the app icon in the middle, unless you have more than 3 notifications.... at which point you get a menu-like notification as the 3rd one.
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Ambient Display = notifications are displayed on screen, and interacting with them (to see your list of e-mails/texts received, or opening the app directly from the notification) powers the display on completely.
Moto Display = Notification icons are displayed on screen. Interacting with those allows you to see what the notification says. Interacting FURTHER powers the display on completely to open the app so you can do what you need to do.
No difference at all power requirement wise (except for the minuscule amount of power needed for the couple extra pixels in Ambient Display) that i can see.
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No, it's different. With the Moto X, you can interact with the screen and view the notification without the phone actually turning on, whilst still only using the low power contextual processor. You can't respond to it, but you can view it. And again, unless you physically unlock the device, it is all done with the low power contextual processor while the phone is technically still asleep. With the N6 and Ambient Display, the moment you touch the screen it wakes up the phone, lights up in full color and uses the full power processor. There is a reason why when you use Ambient Display the standby battery life gets chopped by about 25%. Check out the specs sheet for the N6- Standby time is 330hrs with Ambient Display off, and 250hrs with it on. http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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No, it's different. With the Moto X, you can interact with the screen and view the notification without the phone actually turning on, whilst still only using the low power contextual processor. You can't respond to it, but you can view it. And again, unless you physically unlock the device, it is all done with the low power contextual processor while the phone is technically still asleep. With the N6 and Ambient Display, the moment you touch the screen it wakes up the phone, lights up in full color and uses the full power processor. There is a reason why when you use Ambient Display the standby battery life gets chopped by about 25%. Check out the specs sheet for the N6- Standby time is 330hrs with Ambient Display off, and 250hrs with it on. http://www.google.com/nexus/6/
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Yes..... but on the other hand.... they've actually gone ahead and POSTED their estimated battery life with it on and off. Looking at the Moto X, all you get is "24 hours mixed usage". Nothing saying what to expect with Moto Display on or off. I'd assume it probably kills the battery just as much... but i couldn't find a review that tested battery life with it on and off.
Again.... with Moto Display, you get notification circles.... only showing the app icon. You touch the icon, and you get what the text message says and who it's from, or what the e-mail you received was about. You can then slide your finger up to the app icon again to unlock the device, turning the screen on fully, and opening up to that message.
With Ambient Display, it's no different from the standard lock screen with the notifications showing, aside from it using only the required pixels. The ONLY difference between it and Moto Display is that for Moto Display, you have to touch the notification icon on the screen to see what the notification says, whereas with Ambient Display, when it turns on, whatever you'd really need to see is already there. Moto Display just adds one extra step to the process.
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Moto display uses the low power contextual processor in order to save battery. Ambient display uses the amoled ability to fire up specific pixels in order not to waste battery..
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This doesn't make any sense to me. Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Both Moto Display and Ambient Display take advantage of AMOLED's ability to only light up select pixels to conserve battery when displaying notifications. As for the use of a low power processor to save battery when displaying notifications, the Snapdragon 805 SoC has a Hexagon DSP built-in, so it's possible that the Nexus 6's Ambient Display is also using a low power processor to display notifications. It's simply too early to say that this difference exists between Ambient Display and Moto Display.
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Yes..... but on the other hand.... they've actually gone ahead and POSTED their estimated battery life with it on and off. Looking at the Moto X, all you get is "24 hours mixed usage". Nothing saying what to expect with Moto Display on or off. I'd assume it probably kills the battery just as much... but i couldn't find a review that tested battery life with it on and off.
Again.... with Moto Display, you get notification circles.... only showing the app icon. You touch the icon, and you get what the text message says and who it's from, or what the e-mail you received was about. You can then slide your finger up to the app icon again to unlock the device, turning the screen on fully, and opening up to that message.
With Ambient Display, it's no different from the standard lock screen with the notifications showing, aside from it using only the required pixels. The ONLY difference between it and Moto Display is that for Moto Display, you have to touch the notification icon on the screen to see what the notification says, whereas with Ambient Display, when it turns on, whatever you'd really need to see is already there. Moto Display just adds one extra step to the process.
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I haven't really tested it on my 2014 Moto X yet, but I can tell you from personal experience with my 2013 Moto X that Active Display has pretty much zero effect on standby battery life. My 2013 loses about 1% overnight, and maybe 3-4% a day if I just let it sit. That's with or without Active Display being on. That's the whole point of the low power contextual processor, it can do these things (Active Display, Moto Voice) with negligible effect on battery life. It was designed that way. Judging from the stated specs of the Nexus 6, it doesn't seem like they had Ambient Display in mind when designing the hardware. I mean, an 80 hour hit to standby battery life is pretty substantial.
As far as the information that's displayed is concerned, I can't really comment on it because I have no experience with the N6. But it does seem that you are correct in that it displays the same or similar information, albeit with one less step. In my point of view, that's actually a bad thing because it brings up some privacy concerns. The Moto X just pulses the type of notification for all to see- if you want to see the contents of it, you need to physically interact with the display. The N6 with Ambient Display, actually pulses the content of the notification which I'm not so keen on.
In the same boat. The Moto features truly change how one uses a phone. Am worried by getting the N6, that I'd miss these features a great deal.
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Anyone have the screen shot of the moto x2014 lollipop updates before they took it down? Even Motorola somewhat acknowledge that ambient display drains more than moto display. Moto x 2014 will have ability to use both.
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What are the odds of the moto features becoming available for the N6, either from porting or moto directly making them available?
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What are the odds of the moto features becoming available for the N6, either from porting or moto directly making them available?
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If they haven't been done by now, I'd say the chances are slim. What features are you looking for. There are solid alternatives but I agree with most that Motorola's implementation has much tighter and cleaner integration. I actually gave up on my nexus 5 for a moto x. I probably would have ended up with the new moto x if it wasn't for that tiny battery.
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You think some build prop. editing would allow moto suite to work? That is the main advantage of Nexus devices. Tinkering ?
Hey all. Just wanted to post to clear up some discrepancies that I have found concerning the presence or absence of the notification light on the 2014 version of the Moto X. There is in fact a notification light on the Moto X. However, like most users I couldn't find any setting for it or in fact see where it might be located physically on the phone itself.
To enable the notification light I am pretty sure your phone must be rooted and a custom ROM installed. As mentioned before, I had no idea that the Moto X had a notification LED until after I rooted it. When rooting and flashing was when I first saw the LED light up. When putting the device in fastboot mode (Volume down + power), a small green light showed up in the top speaker. Rather, in the slit between the front of the speaker and the body of the phone where the sound emenates from. I just assumed it was kind of a "warning" light to notify you that you were outing the phone in Fastboot mode and ignored it. Anyway, after the new ROM was installed and my notifications started rolling in, the light started lighting up. So far it has lit up for each text and also for my snapchats.
As for why the light was included by Motorola, but was still disabled, I can only guess. I assume that because of the Moto Display feature being included the developers assumed it would be redundant. Indeed, if I had a choice between Moto Display or a notification light, I would probably choose the display, but that just my two cents.
So, if you have rooted and flashed, have you noticed the notification light? Or is this just enabled by Motorola with the android 5.x update? Thoughts?
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Hey all. Just wanted to post to clear up some discrepancies that I have found concerning the presence or absence of the notification light on the 2014 version of the Moto X. There is in fact a notification light on the Moto X. However, like most users I couldn't find any setting for it or in fact see where it might be located physically on the phone itself.
To enable the notification light I am pretty sure your phone must be rooted and a custom ROM installed. As mentioned before, I had no idea that the Moto X had a notification LED until after I rooted it. When rooting and flashing was when I first saw the LED light up. When putting the device in fastboot mode (Volume down + power), a small green light showed up in the top speaker. Rather, in the slit between the front of the speaker and the body of the phone where the sound emenates from. I just assumed it was kind of a "warning" light to notify you that you were outing the phone in Fastboot mode and ignored it. Anyway, after the new ROM was installed and my notifications started rolling in, the light started lighting up. So far it has lit up for each text and also for my snapchats.
As for why the light was included by Motorola, but was still disabled, I can only guess. I assume that because of the Moto Display feature being included the developers assumed it would be redundant. Indeed, if I had a choice between Moto Display or a notification light, I would probably choose the display, but that just my two cents.
So, if you have rooted and flashed, have you noticed the notification light? Or is this just enabled by Motorola with the android 5.x update? Thoughts?
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It's not disabled, it's just not a notification light. On the stock rom it's used to indicate that the phone is charging or low on battery if the phone is not turned on. Custom roms override that feature and use it as a notification light instead.
I'll take your word for it. However, I never saw an option for it on the settings, and it never once lit up while I was charging, on or off.
Thanks for the input and explanation!
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I'll take your word for it. However, I never saw an option for it on the settings, and it never once lit up while I was charging, on or off.
Thanks for the input and explanation!
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I think it only comes on if the battery is so low that the phone can't turn on yet to indicate that it's getting power.
I saw mine blink one time. It was when I was rebooting. I saw a Red light flash real quick. Really wish I was rooted so I could enable it.
No need to have a custom rom. If you are rooted you can simply enable it using Tasker. I use it for certain profiles.
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I saw mine blink one time. It was when I was rebooting. I saw a Red light flash real quick. Really wish I was rooted so I could enable it.
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You saw one of the IR sensor lighting up. the only led on the X 2014 is a green one.
No. It was the light. But I'll argue with u more about it since I'm bored.
There are MANY YouTube reviews that mention the IR sensors and the "light flash"..
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i'm on stock 5.0 rooted and light flow app. led notification works well
Please share tour settings.
My config. 20 in intensity is plenty sufficient
as in the "other post" i share here my config
Bad news (for me) after lightflow update (playstore 17 February) no more led notification. Can't make led work
So baaaaaad
Iv been using Tasker and the "notification listener" plugin.
Iv just set up profiles to switch a variable on and off based on notification posted/cleared.
Then a task that runs an LED flashing loop based on that variables value.
In tasker, the LED is called "charging led" not a notification led.
michyall said:
Bad news (for me) after lightflow update (playstore 17 February) no more led notification. Can't make led work
So baaaaaad
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That happened to me on the version before this update, it was driving me crazy. LED just stopped working, tried everything to fix but it wouldn't work. Then this morning it was working and then I saw the update so I backed up the app with titanium and updated. So far, knock on wood, been working all day.
I solved unonstalling LF and re-installing from playstore. Works again. +1
michyall said:
I solved unonstalling LF and re-installing from playstore. Works again. +1
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I am having this issue, again, so frustrating. A reboot fixed it for a short period but the led stopped working again. I haven't tried uninstalling and redownloading but that is my next step.
I would really like to know what is causing this, the app or something with the stock rom.
Don't know why. Now i'm on cm nightlies, no need LF, led's working good
Is possible to create some kind of "patch" to use the notification LED on Stock ? I mean to use it as a native LED, like on CM builds, basically port this function from CM and implement it on Stock?
Might be a silly question, but since this is my First Motorola phone I'm not sure. Is there a blinking LED on the phone for notifcations? That is always how I tell if I have a text message while at my text. I don't see one or any options.
nope, not with the Moto X. They got ridden of the led cause of the active display. But i do miss an LED.
Cremacious said:
Might be a silly question, but since this is my First Motorola phone I'm not sure. Is there a blinking LED on the phone for notifcations? That is always how I tell if I have a text message while at my text. I don't see one or any options.
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I can't find the thread but a picture was posted of a white led lit up in the middle of the top speaker. I am sure once development starts we will have led notification.
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At least on the previous two Moto X, there is a hidden led there. But that only displayed when the battery was depleted. And only displayed when you tried to boot up the device and it could not since battery was gone. There was a hack to have the led work but was found out that it was directly connected to the battery and not the Moto X mainboard. No way to control it. So, we could not use it as a notification. I think same deal with the new Pure. If you want led notification, Galaxy is your option. At least they keep the led in all their phones. Note, Galaxy etc....
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I can't find the thread but a picture was posted of a white led lit up in the middle of the top speaker. I am sure once development starts we will have led notification.
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Oh yea the hidden led in the top speaker grill just like every moto x had, so this one is white now? Bummer last ones was green.
In case people dont know that led is used incase if the phone is dead to even light up the screen so itll show the led and let u know ur phone is dead and cant be powered..
ok so i got the Moto X 2014 ,Droid turbo and others Motorola.
the Active display works like that: when u got a notification the screen lights untill u read or dismiss the notification.
on Moto X play the phone acts in another way: lights one time ,then nothing untill u take the phone in ur hands. then the phone lights up and make u see that u got new notification.
why? why the screen doesn lights up more times like on Moto X 2014?
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moto x 2014 have proximity sensors. I was just going to hand over the phone to read notifications. play moto x uses the gyroscope to capture action, and turn on the screen when you take the pocket phone.
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riewe said:
moto x 2014 have proximity sensors. I was just going to hand over the phone to read notifications. play moto x uses the gyroscope to capture action, and turn on the screen when you take the pocket phone.
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Moto x play doesn t have gyroscope...
danger2u said:
ok so i got the Moto X 2014 ,Droid turbo and others Motorola.
the Active display works like that: when u got a notification the screen lights untill u read or dismiss the notification.
on Moto X play the phone acts in another way: lights one time ,then nothing untill u take the phone in ur hands. then the phone lights up and make u see that u got new notification.
why? why the screen doesn lights up more times like on Moto X 2014?
thanks
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Because the play uses an LCD vs AMOLED on the 2014. This would drain a lot more battery if it kept powering the entire screen for repeat notifications.
But the Moto X Style which has a larger LCD screen and a smaller battery does repeat notifications, this must be either a bug of the Moto X Play or just ****...
Hi got a moto x play yesterday and I dont like the notification ''active screen''.. I need to toutch my phone to see the notification...wtf Is it possible to have something flashing??
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Hi got a moto x play yesterday and I dont like the notification ''active screen''.. I need to toutch my phone to see the notification...wtf Is it possible to have something flashing??
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It has a hidden led light, we're just waiting for squid2 to update his kernel for marshmallow. You can try cm13 as well. We definitely don't want the lcd screen to keep flashing, like dictionary said, it would murder our battery life.
Any update about the LED notification light, how to activate it. I am running the unrooted Marshmallow OTA update.
Thanks in advance.
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Any update about the LED notification light, how to activate it. I am running the unrooted Marshmallow OTA update.
Thanks in advance.
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Only with root devices...
How to deactivate the proximity sensor? Because earlier i did turn it off and now i have factory reset the phone but not able to find the settings for the same. Please help
Hi Guys,
Got the new Moto G7. Been playing around with it but i cannot seem to find any option to enabled notification light.
Any ideas if G7 does have notification LED and if so how to enabled it?
Thanks
Iru
I may disassemble mine at some point and look, it might not though just because of space restrictions.
There is one white notification light it seems in the water drop notch. I'm unsure on how to enable it but I've seen it power on during the phones start up process.
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There is one white notification light it seems in the water drop notch. I'm unsure on how to enable it but I've seen it power on during the phones start up process.
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Will have to check it out and see if we can enable it.
Lightflow can't access the light, it even says the light is there and is only a white light, but can't access it at all.
Why would they ship out an LED yet not use?
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Why would they ship out an LED yet not use?
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The led gets activated when the phone is bricked so you see it's not a complete brick but still a phone if you connect it into an usb.
This seems to be a "feature" with all the latest Moto G Power phones including the G7. I've been able to turn it on and make it usable to show notifcations have come in with various root applications. Search play store for "Moto LED notifcations".
pretty funny because the notification led never worked for me on stock, but on lineageos it did