And there's nothing I can do about it. I only have a gear s2 connected at all times and wifi and mobile data off whenever possible. Before I leave to the gym battery is at 44%. After the car ride there it drops one percent. I unlock the phone, connect my powerbeats, and open youtube and there go another 5%. After a YouTube video there is 7% drain. About a 10 minute video too. Leaving the gym and hour later and I see a maybe 20% battery loss. I don't know how people with regular S7s get 4-5 hours SOT because I get only 3.5 maximum. I bought the edge looking for better battery life but it's practically no different than my S5. If anyone knows a magic trick to this, I need to know now because this is extremely annoying.
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
konoi said:
IF you got the device from an official retailer, just return and get a new replacement. Losing 7% watching a 10' video is not right even with max brightness. You can fix the standby drain by using Forcedoze (which helped reduce my standby drain by 50% to about 1% every 2 hours). 3.5 hours SOT is terrible even with max brightness. Just get a replacement please. It's not worth the time and frustration.
IF you don't have the option of getting a replacement. Forcedoze can help with the standby drain. Factory reset, set up normally (personally, I just turn off bluetooth NFC location and turn them on when needed), and hope that your terrible screen on time is software related.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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Do you think it might be my location by any chance? Maybe the service in my area causes this drain. I also have gps on because of my gear s2 but I can turn that off and see what happens. GSAM tells me the in the past 30 minutes the drain rate is 15% per hour. I browsed the Internet a bit and have been using it the whole time. I'll try to also do a full battery drain test on geekbench with full brightness and see what it tells me.
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It's a good possibility. I have a fairly weak signal where I am most of the day and only get about 4-5 hours of SOT. I have all radios off except WiFi and data when needed. Still with my usage I only charge every 2 to 3 days. I don't get the drain like you do from watching youtube though.
My battery life also sucks. I barely use my phone during the day and it almost dead when I go to sleep. Most of the day I am connected to wifi between my work or home. My old htc m8 one could last 40 hours. I think part of the problem is because I do not have root on this phone. I kind of regret switching because I cannot get root. I cannot use applications to adjust cpu or control my wifi, data and to turn off apps from starting automatically. I think tonight I am going to try and calibrate my battery.
I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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Guys, I had terrible battery life when I first got the phone. Off the charger at 6am, under 20% by 5pm... Follow my steps below and I bet your battery will do a 180 and be very nice. Mine gets me 35-40+ hours on a charge.
Disable the bloat apps you don't want in app manager.
Turn off Google usage and diagnostics reporting for the Google app, and if you use the Google keyboard, there too. This and the next one were the biggest improvements by far.
Turn off Samsung "Send Security Reports," and in the same place, turn off auto-update Samsung security updates.
Turn off device/Bluetooth/WiFi scanning.
Set keep WiFi on during sleep to while charging.
In permissions, I turned off location for any app I didn't think needed it. I went from 30+ to about 15. If an app requires location to work, you will get a popup warning when disabling location for it.
Lastly, I did a Restrict Background Data on several apps I didn't think needed it.
My phone started dozing and the battery drain dropped way out.
I keep AOD and Bluetooth on at all times and connected to my smartwatch all day, and my car about an hours a day.
Hope this helps! Apparently out of the box the S7/Edge battery life is terrible...
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I installed forcedoze and did the adb non-root command and now my phone's battery is holding up better. I think the phone was just sleeping.
It's ridiculous one has to do all this to get closer to acceptable battery life.
Google and SEC should be ashamed of themselves!
It's not just VZW devices either. AT&T are just as bad.
I've given up on trying to get acceptable standby drain and just let the device live on a wireless charger.
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I had horrible battery life after taking the 2 OTAs. BetterBatteryStats would not report the device going into deep sleep at all and I was losing about 10% per hour on standby. I did a Factory Data Reset and all the problems cleared away. BBS is reporting deep sleep after about 5 minutes of the display going dark. I have Wifi, data, Bluetooth, and high-accuracy Location services turned on at all times. I lose about 2.5% per hour now with AOD turned on on standby.
Guess my advice would be to due a FDR after every OTA....
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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You need to turn off all radios when you go to sleep for the device to enter deep sleep. I had the same problem and when I started turning off wifi and mobile data for the night GSAM reported deep sleep and I was only losing 3% per night.
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I keep all my radios on (BT, LTE, and WiFi) and BBS and GSAM Pro all report that my phone goes into Deep Sleep.
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I have Problem With Standby Time .....My Battery After 12 Hours Standby Have 50% Drop.....I install Stock Rom But Itsnt Fix...Please Help Me:crying:
( I do wipe cash and wipe battey and calibrate)
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how long your battery used? if >2-year heavy use, could well be battery degrade. no solution except for buying a new one. (symptom: battery charge sudden drop, like 50% -> 20%).
nostupidthing said:
how long your battery used? if >2-year heavy use, could well be battery degrade. no solution except for buying a new one. (symptom: battery charge sudden drop, like 50% -> 20%).
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For me battery drops can sometimes happen when I don't charge battery to 100% - so it's good idea to always charge to full.
First of all you should check if your battery is going into deep sleep mode. You can do that by installing Bettery Battery Stats, and leaving your phone idle with the screen off for some time. You should read the forum post to understand how it works. If after leaving your phone on "stand-by" you realize that it's not going into Deep Sleep mode, then you should find out what is keeping your phone awake.
I used to have the same situation as you, and it turned out that I had set the WiFi Sleep Policy in Viber to override the Roms setting, and consequently leaving my WiFi always on (which prevents your phone from sleeping). After fixing the issue in Viber my phone now turns WiFi off after 15 minutes of leaving my phone idle.
Now unless your battery is actually dying on you, I'm sure you can get a better battery life. I am using Tasker to program my phone to turn WiFi off when I turn off my screen, and then turn it on for 1 minute every 15 minutes during the day, and at nights it does the same thing but with an interval of 1 hour and half. There are apps in the Play Store that do this too, I've tried these both, and they work as they should, and they can even control your Data connection
Green power
Deep Sleep Battery Saver
All in all I've been losing an average of 1.7% during the day, and 0.7% and 1.2% per night. My battery currently lasts about 2 days on one charge. This is all assuming it is actually your WiFi that's preventing your phone from sleeping, I just figured I'd share my experience in case it is in fact that; the important thing being that you could probably get the same results as I have (or even better, considering your battery isn't busted) if your phone is actually going into Deep Sleep.
As the title says, standby battery is awful.
I have all the bloatware disabled, only things on push are gmail and facebook messenger.
Cell standby is also sitting at 20% battery usage, no matter what, 2nd on the list behind screen time. Note 3 had exactly the same issue where cell standby is concerned. None of my other phones have had this issue, including my S2 with buggy as hell CM11, OnePlus One, Moto G LTE, etc.
No matter what I do, even with everything disabled and on airplane mode, there's a constant 1% battery drain every hour.
In my Note 3's case, this only happened on stock samsung firmware. When I flashed CM11, the issue went away completely. Something like 0.3% drained per hour instead.
So to me the issue is with Samsung's crappy software. I know the battery life was woeful on the Note 4 anyway before an update came in to fix things up a bit. Maybe they're saving the fixes for 5.0?
I know a new update for the N910C was released a couple of days ago too, but not available on European models yet.
Anyone else having these issues?
I dont have this issue at all my friend if i were u id try a complete wipe 1st, some people have had this issue too so returning could be an answer
Same here...
I only lost 4% battery overnight and don't have this problem too
20% battery loss on standby but mobile data was enabled.
^ you may have a bad app and/or bad signal
I have 4 bars lte at home, 2-3 bars at work, wifi always full signal at both work and home, one is ac 5ghz, other n 2.4ghz, no difference in drain either way.
Ive done a factory wipe 3 times now, even through recovery once. No change. Better battery stats and gsam both report no rogue apps, and ive also tested by having no apps installed, with and without bloatware disabled.
Im not really keen on the idea of voiding my warranty to test other kernels etc, and the only other option is to flash the ank5 update to test.
Ive attached another screenshot showijg the issue better. The drain gets noticeably worse after the first 50% or so, but that could be caused by many things, like inaccurate readings.
Like i say though, 1 of my 2 note 3s had the same issue. Could well be a faulty wifi/cellular chip.
Ignore the time its been on, the same thing happens during a day of heavy usage when in standby, same level of drain constantly.
1%+ may not seem that much to a lot of people, but with my usage i should get through 2 days regardless. It should be less than half of what it is. From the curent reporting in the battery stats, im losing almost 50% of my battery in standby over a day and a half or so.
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Ignore the time its been on, the same thing happens during a day of heavy usage when in standby, same level of drain constantly.
1%+ may not seem that much to a lot of people, but with my usage i should get through 2 days regardless. It should be less than half of what it is. From the curent reporting in the battery stats, im losing almost 50% of my battery in standby over a day and a half or so.
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Is location / sync off? Those a major battery drain during standby.
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Is location / sync off? Those a major battery drain during standby.
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The only things enabled for sync right now are the basic google apps such as chrome, calendar etc. They rarely sync though, and no other phone I've used in the last 2 years has had an issue with them.
Samsung sync constantly returns errors so I leave that off.
Last thing I'll be trying tonight is a full wipe without disabling any built in apps. Its doubtful, but maybe one of the core shamsung apps are trying to communicate with a disabled app or something. I really don't know.
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The only things enabled for sync right now are the basic google apps such as chrome, calendar etc. They rarely sync though, and no other phone I've used in the last 2 years has had an issue with them.
Samsung sync constantly returns errors so I leave that off.
Last thing I'll be trying tonight is a full wipe without disabling any built in apps. Its doubtful, but maybe one of the core shamsung apps are trying to communicate with a disabled app or something. I really don't know.
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Any update?
My n910c is terrible too. 15% battery loss in 3 hours of standby alone! Wtf! Tried every battery saving trick' no location on etc...
i would suggest u do few thing while u get on bed next time,
Full charge your phone and unplug before you on bed,
1. Restart the phone while on charging,after restart go to home screen and lock the screen and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning u wake.
2.Left the phone with your daily apps running,full charge and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning too when u wake.
this is how i solve those apps running not right.
like the screenshot below,
An apps running at night drained 30% battery within 6hours & 30mins & without switch on the screen or touch anything since i'm asleep *with wifi on*
2nd screen shot shown that cm browser running and consume 94% of processing among 30% battery
while cpu only running 20mins since i had weather & sync on during night.
After that i report to cm team and they send me latest version,
after re-install my phone just back to normal.
now my N910c note 4 is consuming 1% every 1.5hours standby with wifi/3g connected *my area 4g only 1~2 bar so i changed to 3G*
average daily usage were 4.5~5.5 hours screen on time with social apps,browsing infomation,checking e-mail every 1or2 hours,reading news with flipboard,news app,drawing something,watch some youtube video & with auto brightness but indoor most of the time.
hope this would help you
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Any update?
My n910c is terrible too. 15% battery loss in 3 hours of standby alone! Wtf! Tried every battery saving trick' no location on etc...
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I did a full wipe, installed ANK5 update, unplugged at 10pm at 100%, woke up at 7am with 97%. This is what it should ALWAYS be.
However, after the 2nd charge after the full wipe, it's back to what it was, if not worse. Last night I unplugged at 11pm, woke up at 7am with 92% left. That's bang on 1% an hour again.
There is nothing keeping the device awake at all. It's very frustrating.
I can only assume Cell Standby is so high due to the fact that the phone isn't actually doing anything while the screen is off. After a 20hr day with only 1 hour SoT it's sitting at 72% battery left, with cell standby at 31%, just above Device Idle at 29%. It's a mystery to say the least.
TyroneS said:
i would suggest u do few thing while u get on bed next time,
Full charge your phone and unplug before you on bed,
1. Restart the phone while on charging,after restart go to home screen and lock the screen and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning u wake.
2.Left the phone with your daily apps running,full charge and unplug then go to sleep,check it at the next morning too when u wake.
this is how i solve those apps running not right.
like the screenshot below,
An apps running at night drained 30% battery within 6hours & 30mins & without switch on the screen or touch anything since i'm asleep *with wifi on*
2nd screen shot shown that cm browser running and consume 94% of processing among 30% battery
while cpu only running 20mins since i had weather & sync on during night.
After that i report to cm team and they send me latest version,
after re-install my phone just back to normal.
now my N910c note 4 is consuming 1% every 1.5hours standby with wifi/3g connected *my area 4g only 1~2 bar so i changed to 3G*
average daily usage were 4.5~5.5 hours screen on time with social apps,browsing infomation,checking e-mail every 1or2 hours,reading news with flipboard,news app,drawing something,watch some youtube video & with auto brightness but indoor most of the time.
hope this would help you
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Thanks for your post. I'll definitely try restarting etc again beforehand. I'm also considering another wipe, as S-Voice being disabled seems to cause quite a few errors in the camera app. The battery drain increased after I opened the camera app too, even after force closing etc. That could just be coincidence though.
1% every 1.5 hours still seems like a lot to me, but it seems like you have a lot more apps and things running, so it's actually very good!
Very tempted to just root the thing now and throw on a debloated OS and custom kernel.
Last night i go sleep with 10% of battery left, ( im not force closing any application at all - just exit ) when i wake up ( about 7 hours of sleeping ) phone was showing 8%
No data/wifi/gps etc. If you are not using mobile internet, switch to GSM! It takes more than 30% less battery power than 3G
I'm thinking this is a hardware fault of some sort. Maybe battery, I'm gonna replace and see cause tried from full charge placing it in airplane mode to see if signal was causing the problem, didn't touch it, screen off whole time for 2 hours. Upon looking at it I saw I'd lost 7% battery! Omg! In airplane mode?! In 2 hours?! In standby?!!
In normal use there are no Rouge apps or strange readings in battery stats at all. May be hardware fault.
I've had the N910K exynos, 6 hours plus sot battery life
I've had the N910F snapdragon, 6 hours plus sot battery life
This n910c give me 3 hours sot. I'm pissed lol. Right off!!
Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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I have 4 bars lte at home, 2-3 bars at work, wifi always full signal at both work and home, one is ac 5ghz, other n 2.4ghz, no difference in drain either way.
Ive done a factory wipe 3 times now, even through recovery once. No change. Better battery stats and gsam both report no rogue apps, and ive also tested by having no apps installed, with and without bloatware disabled.
Im not really keen on the idea of voiding my warranty to test other kernels etc, and the only other option is to flash the ank5 update to test.
Ive attached another screenshot showijg the issue better. The drain gets noticeably worse after the first 50% or so, but that could be caused by many things, like inaccurate readings.
Like i say though, 1 of my 2 note 3s had the same issue. Could well be a faulty wifi/cellular chip.
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Your mobile signal is very poor. I believe you have full bars but your screenshot ... well it shows us that your reception is poor. It may be one of the causes for your fast drain...
Azcaron said:
Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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Yes, in airplane mode I should lose practically nothing withing 2 hours. Please screen shot your battery stats for us!
lawtq said:
I'm thinking this is a hardware fault of some sort. Maybe battery, I'm gonna replace and see cause tried from full charge placing it in airplane mode to see if signal was causing the problem, didn't touch it, screen off whole time for 2 hours. Upon looking at it I saw I'd lost 7% battery! Omg! In airplane mode?! In 2 hours?! In standby?!!
In normal use there are no Rouge apps or strange readings in battery stats at all. May be hardware fault.
I've had the N910K exynos, 6 hours plus sot battery life
I've had the N910F snapdragon, 6 hours plus sot battery life
This n910c give me 3 hours sot. I'm pissed lol. Right off!!
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My SoT is fine if im only using it during 1 day. Its usually close to 6 hours. But its not heavy usage, just browsing mainly.
Let me know how the battery change goes. Im likely going to order a spare anyway for when im away from home, so will also report back.
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Thats really weird, it can be issue of the battery. My 910C has about 8/9 hours of SOT ( wifi only ).
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So mobile data completely disabled? Not that it should matter much if youre on wifi all the time.
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Your mobile signal is very poor. I believe you have full bars but your screenshot ... well it shows us that your reception is poor. It may be one of the causes for your fast drain...
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At work its pretty poor, usually a bar or two on lte, but no other phone ive had has displayed battery drain like this in standby.
That still doesnt explain why it drains 1%/hr with nothing happening at home though with 4 bar lte and full wifi signal.
Ive also noticed voice calls are taking up significant battery. A 3min call used more battery than 20 mons of screen time at half brightness apparently, unless thats normal.
If its normal, then to me the cause seems to be battery related. If not, then faulty cellular chip.
Also heres some more screenshots.
This is over the course of the day with barely any usage.
The chunks where its awake, that's just when I'm playing music, not a rogue app.
Note the big standby drop at the start, then the standby drop later, both completely different amounts of drainage, yet both when doing nothing.
What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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Factory reset it
czerdrill said:
Factory reset it
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Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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I agree with you. Although my phone is just beyond a week old and does have all my apps installed, a factory reset can't be the solution here. This is the typical "I don't know how to fix this" answer always given by manufacturers and carriers.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
Make sure Google now features are all turned off and not running in the background.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
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I'll have to go through the apps one by one like I did previously on my G3 and see. Now within the battery stats there is only a handful of apps like hangout, play music, chrome and camera. The rest is OS related so that's why I was curious what ran under Phone Idle.
czerdrill said:
Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
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No and sadly I was looking for that feature a week ago but couldn't find it so I had to individually install most of my apps I had on my previous phone...made for a long night along with the additional emails and configuration or icons and such.
I'll keep digging away at the phone...I really want to like this phone ?
Has there been a definitive resolution to "phone idle" battery drain? I just got a V20 2 weeks ago on sale for $360 and its a fantastic upgrade over the One+1 I've been rockin all these years, but I'm also suffering from mediocre life due to whatever phone idle is. Some forums (for other phones) say phone idle is related to your wireless signal. I'm still with the same carrier and frequenting the same locations and had no such battery drain with that old One+.
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
Go to locations/ 3 dots in top right corner/ turn off WiFi scan. See if that helps.
My phone has been suffering from poor battery life for quite some time now, here are the screenshots, Android OS has been this high on almost all battery cycles.
I disabled wifi scanning as suggested above and will watch the performance, does the community have any other inputs to fix this? View attachment 4212978View attachment 4212979
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Phone idle is always the biggest battery draw on my phone too. I have minimal apps too. No Facebook or similar types of apps. I'm on a Verizon V20 stock with the latest security update. Is this normal V20 behavior to have phone idle consume more battery than everything else?
how about doze mode , isnt that meant to help with this sort of problem ? ( my phone is currently on a ship )
Any update. İ have the same problem
andreqf said:
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
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So what did you do?
Would also be grateful if anyone shared a solution.
I specifically have a SIM-unlocked Sprint model (LS997) which am using in Europe with another carrier.
Using it in LTE preferred mode drains about 10-15% overnight.
Using it in WCDMA preferred mode drains up to 5% per night (yes, wifi and cellular data OFF and many apps greenified) . So I'm really interested in how this can be fixed and achieve 0% battery drain across several hours.
Or maybe it's SIM-unlocked Sprint ROM related?? I can't root my phone since it has the Feb 2017 patch and is a ZV6.
I suspect rooting it and using another ROM would solve this + the annoying issue of not being able to send images via FB Messenger and Viber while on cellular data (I imagine the Sprint guys placed some kind of restriction to deny media transfer for these apps when using cellular data).
I have noticed this too.. wondered why "phone idle" takes most battery... any suggestions would be great!
I am also curious about the solution. Phone Idle is at top. Even without SIM card. 30% drains during a night (everything is disabled, but no airplane mode is on). I tried factory reset, reinstall older ROM, replace battery, use no app but still sucks.
hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.
My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
manuvarghese said:
My Essential PH 1 is draining a lot.
Phone idle is taking most power with approximately 17%. Screenshots attached.
Can you please advise if this is normal and ways to minimize battery drain ?
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Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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reverenddak said:
Are you showing off? because those are amazing numbers. You're on track for 35 hours! I get around 26. Your bigger killer is What's App, but that's expected for a Facebook app. 17% for idle means your phone is on and doing nothing 17% of the time.
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Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
manuvarghese said:
Nope I am not showing off, I think i am having huge drains when I am asleep. Most of the time in that graph is idle time so i am thinking it should be better ?
Again I moved recently to droid from iOS so i am unsure of the droid power management baselines.
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Cool. I didn't mean to seem mean, but those are good numbers. If your phone is on, and you have push notifications (pretty much every social media app, phone, sms, etc.) you're going to have drain. Even if the phone was off, the battery would drain somewhat. But you have What's App and other chat apps, so that'll use battery, even if your asleep, the phone isn't. It's the only way you would be able to receive calls, text, updates, etc.
That 17% looks steep, but it's all relative to a small screen. over the span of 20 hours and you still have almost 50% battery, especially with "free" apps that are basically advertising engines pushing ads at your every minute. Having Phone Idle at the top is not a bad thing, it just means you don't use your phone as much as you use What's App.
1% per hour is good, better than our S8 even
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
My phone is draining 12% overnight. And phone idle is top of the list. What does this phone idle do? There was a random night where the phone only dropped 1%. But most nights, it's draining around 10% with phone idle at the top.
Update: setting wifi to not stay on while phone is sleeping seems to fix the drain issue.
boidsonly said:
I had enabled "Cellular data always active" and it chewed through my battery life. I turned it off and can now last 1.5 days on a charge.
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Does disabling it affect receiving messages that rely on mobile data such as WhatsApp?
Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
If your losing that much overnight it's probably a bad app.
I don't use it, but have read that the Facebook messenger is good for that. As in eating up a battery overnight.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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I can promise you that that's not normal, especially for this phone. Overnight battery loss is minimal, 15 hours of idle with a 10% drain is what I'm getting. That's pretty amazing. I'd check your apps and ask the general android forums for advice. I also bet there is a rogue app draining you juice. chat and social media apps with all their pushed content and friend updates are huge battery killers.
Install accu battery ,charger to full last thing at night ,don't touch through night ,then see what's draining battery ,mine drains by about 2/3% through 8/9 hrs at night
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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It's under developer options settings. I have mine always active without draining my battery noticeable.
The social media apps such as snapchat, facebook, twitter, etc... are the ones draining your battery while your phone is idle so you need to disable their background data running.
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Where is the "cellular data always active" setting? I don't see it. Have not updated to run Oreo.
My battery was dropping from 95% to 5% overnight. Did a factory reset which helped, but I'm still losing 17-20% overnight. Seems odd to me on a brand new phone, but I have never owned an Android before. I have blocked notifications and location services from nearly all of my apps. Any advice other than what has already been posted?
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The option to Cellular Data Always Active is on the Developer Hidden Menu. If you have it enabled you should be able to turn it off.
Thanks to all for the replies. I thought that restoring factory settings had helped somewhat, but it turns out not to have. Battery has just depleted from 100% to 67% in 3 hours while the phone has sat idle.
The only social media apps I have installed are FB and Whatapp. Notifications for both are turned off. Location services for all apps are also off. The only apps I have installed have been download from the Play Store and have run on my previous phones without causing any trouble. Those who replied all suspect a bad app, so I have installed ACCU Battery as suggested to see if I can nail it down.
Thanks again for the responses.
Try this for one night. Right before bed....
1. Turn OFF WiFi
2. Reboot phone
3. Leave WiFi off after reboot
There is a bug in Google Play Services that affects many people on many different phone types since the November updates.
When on wifi, in certain circumstances (many theories on what the actually trigger is) it will cause Google Play Services to run non stop on certain WiFi networks causing huge battery drain.
In this particular scenario, turning off Wifi does not stop the battery drain. The phone has to be reboot.
I don't know if that is what you are experiencing, as you didn't say if it was an app or system taking so much battery, but I thought I would mention it in case it helps.
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Why don't you look in settings/battery and see what is using the highest percentage of the battery?
Have looked in Settings/Battery, but am not seeing anything there that diagnoses the problem to my understanding. Highest use shown is Chrome (4%), then Screen (4%) then Google Play services (3%). ACCU Battery app shows the same. Battery is still losing 10-12% of its charge per hour while the phone is idle.
Have sent a message to Essential support to ask if they know anything about a bug in Google Play services causing battery drain. They have so far only suggested rebooting to safe mode and doing the reset to factory settings. Hasn't helped.
Will try shutting wifi off, rebooting and leaving wifi off tonight as suggested. Not really sure where to go from there even if that does save the battery, as a phone that has its battery drained just by being on wifi is useless to me.
If turning off WiFi and rebooting helps reduce system cpu usage, it is a bug in the software and not the phone. I can reproduce that specific issue on my pixel 2 and Samsung Galaxy s8, too....
If the CPU usage isn't from system, though, or turning WiFi off and rebooting doesn't help then you obviously have a completely different issue and need to troubleshoot further.
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Update:. Nothing Essential support has suggested has helped. Battery is draining to zero overnight while phone is idle both when connected to wifi and when not.
Upon learning that I had purchased the phone at a Telus store in Canada, Essential have said that they can't help me further and have referred me to the store for assistance. I'm disappointed in the lack of support from Essential.
Hi guys,
Hope you all doing great.
Guys i have LG V20 n using from last year. It was working great without any issue. Battery timing was awesome. Giving me 5:30 to 6 hours screen on time. Almost day and Half on normal use. 2 days back something happened no idea what. Now phone idle using more then screen on time and wifi is always on even its off. I tired to uninstall app, then factory reset but still same.... No luck.... Any solution ??
Go to your location setting use the tab in upper right, click setting and turn wifi scanning off.
I tried this but no luck
As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
shazzi said:
As i mentioned i tried everything thing, like location off, wifi and Bluetooth scanning off, play services off, Almost everything is off, but still same. No luck...
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Try to install battery monitor application (I use betterbatterystats) to find out what is causing your idle drain. But to be honest, I've never got 5-6 SOT. My idle drain is about 0,7% per hour with greenify, managed Google play services wakeup, custom kernel, kernel adiutor and about 80 apps on board.
I'll try and help the best I can..
Within the last year or so..I have been reading about this issue quite often. That is, people posting about "Phone Idle" having high percentage in battery stats. And then they are off to hunt down the culprit. The truth is, "Phone Idle" is NOT eating up your battery. Phone Idle is just that.... Time the phone has spent being idle (being still, or CPU/Battery not being used). Or in this case, percentage of total battery "usage" that belongs to "Phone Idle". In actuality, phone idle isn't "using" anything. The "usage" for phone idle is really time NOT used. A higher percentage is better. If your phone sat for 2 days straight without being used...the phone idle % will be real high. Also, you can't "Greenify" phone idle. You only greenify phone idle when you greenify other apps.....think about it.
And as for Wifi. The Wifi radio on this phone is a bit more power hungry. It doesn't even include any power saving options that some phones, like my Samsung S4 has. My S4 used on average from 2% - 6% depending on signal strength. The V20 can use from 7% - 11% ..again depending on signal strength. If you leave Wifi on overnight and it's in bad proximity to the router..10-11% is normal.
What is your average signal strength for your 4G and cellular (calls)? CDMA has 1X, I'm not sure what GSM uses. If it's in the high 90's and higher, that right there could be chewing up your battery. Phone radio often doesn't even show on the usage list.
How often do you need to charge? Also how much time between a charge and what is your usual screen on time now..after you wrote this post? Phone idle is only at the top because the "idle" time now exceeds the amount of time you have your screen on. ......don't take this the wrong way but some people think the phone idle is actually something that's draining the battery. It's not..it's just placed within the list. Ignore the Mah it shows for it. That just assumes it's some app and it tries to convert everything into mah..and I really don't know how accurate that is. But it obviously doesn't apply to Phone Idle. Speaking of...what is the amount of phone idle time?