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[Q] Nexus System Partition Size

Hi, I'm not sure if this is specifically a Nexus question or a general Android question but I have both a Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 and have observed the same behaviour on both
I have posted in the General section with nor response so now I'm posting on specific forums
Basically what's happening is when I delete stuff from the SDcard the free space seems to be allocated to the system partition WTF?!
Take a look at the screenshots I'm going to try a couple of things - one of the suggested things was clearing the data in the Google Services Framework data >> Settings - Apps - All - Google Services Framework - Clear Data - which freed up some of it but not all, the next thing from here for me would be to flash the factory images again and see what I start out with
Both devices are on CM10.1 if that helps, is anyone else is having the same issue??
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Ok so this is my partition sizes now after flashing the factory images back onto my nexus 7. No where near 5GB anyone have any idea what's causing this?

I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.

KyraOfFire said:
I am guessing you have a couple of CWM back up? Maybe 3-4 of them? Maybe you tried to delete some of them?
Buggy CWM Recovery. Especially if you still hang on to the older versions. Mostly because the way CWM save the backup files.
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I just use TiBU and DataSync now, stopped doing nandroids a while back now
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It's not "system data" for sure. It's some apps with root permission saving its file to locations it shouldn't be doing.
Some how l still think it is CWM, even as you stopped using it in a distance past (which is like 1-2 months ago). I recommend flashing newest CWM and see if there're still old back up files.
If you still can't find anything, try this
bassmadrigal said:
If you are rooted and have adb set up on your computer, you can find out what folders are using the most space by using the commands below, then change into that directory and run the command again.
Code:
adb
su
cd /
du -hd 1
--find the largest folder and change directory (cd) into it - if you find you no longer want to continue in the folder you are in, you can cd .. to get to the previous folder or cd / to get back to the root of the filesystem--
Code:
cd large_folder
du -hd 1
rinse
repeat
????
profit
This will allow you to find what folders are using the most space and can eventually lead you to any large files and can then let you find out if you can delete them or if you need to keep them.
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isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
We got tired of seeing OEMs include many GB of internal storage for music, while users were still running out of space for apps and data. This approach lets us merge everything on one volume, which is way better.
-- Dan Morrill, Android engineer at Google
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so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card

noobdeagle said:
isnt this what they were saying was the reason for no SD card and use of MTP ?; basically if i recall correctly the nexus devices do not truly assign partitions instead there is a storage 'pool' that anything can use dynamically.
so i guess there is no partitions its just all 1 volume.
source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card
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I wish that was the case but it not, the space goes to the system partition and I cant access it on the sdcard

[Q] Storage issues

Nexus 4, rooted, CM, gravity box.
I want to update to CM11 M6 but I can't get my phone to make a nandroid (using ClockworkMod) because I keep getting an error basically saying I have insufficient storage. These are the steps I take:
Backup using titanium
Go into recovery
Backup using ClockworkMod
It's at this point where it lists backing up the system, but then it gets hung up backing up the data card. I have tried to go back in and delete everything I could possibly think of (w/out wiping the whole thing) but to no avail. I have cleared my cashe and even deleted the titanium backup which was around 1gb and still no dice.
Attached are some screenshots that may be helpful. There has to be something hidden but I just don't know where to look for it. I tried to install DiskUsage but I can't since I don't have enough room. How do I clear up this phone?! Any help would be much appreciated!!
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brahmaboba said:
Nexus 4, rooted, CM, gravity box.
I want to update to CM11 M6 but I can't get my phone to make a nandroid (using ClockworkMod) because I keep getting an error basically saying I have insufficient storage. These are the steps I take:
Backup using titanium
Go into recovery
Backup using ClockworkMod
It's at this point where it lists backing up the system, but then it gets hung up backing up the data card. I have tried to go back in and delete everything I could possibly think of (w/out wiping the whole thing) but to no avail. I have cleared my cashe and even deleted the titanium backup which was around 1gb and still no dice.
Attached are some screenshots that may be helpful. There has to be something hidden but I just don't know where to look for it. I tried to install DiskUsage but I can't since I don't have enough room. How do I clear up this phone?! Any help would be much appreciated!!
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You need at least 3GB of free space to make CWM able to create backup... but you won't find that backup in /sdcard/cloclworkmod folder it's in /storage/emulated/blablabla or something like that and you won't be able to get access there from your computer

parkourz said:
You need at least 3GB of free space to make CWM able to create backup... but you won't find that backup in /sdcard/cloclworkmod folder it's in /storage/emulated/blablabla or something like that and you won't be able to get access there from your computer
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Ok, I'm not sure I understand. I'm in the emulated folder and went into the clockworkmod folder and keep descending and come to just 1 file that is just 7.63mb called "recovery-clockwork-....img". This can't be the solution, can it?

try in /storage/emulated/legacy/clockworkmod... or flash TWRP instead of CWM... if both won't help then you can try to make a backup with toolkit for PC, for example Wug's toolkit

Twrp is showing the backup size and a poseibility to compress it. You probably have much apps or there is some .something fokder what is using much or much cache just like on an desktop. Many things can cause it.
You may want to checkout what is using so much by deleting old folders from old apps or old things yiu dint use anymore.
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Storage issue on lollipop please help

Yesterday I flashed 5.0 lollipop on my nexus 7 ,it is a 16 GB model but now it says that my total storage is 6GB and that's definitely too low. Can someone help??
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very common problem for nexus 4 & 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/how-to-fix-internal-storage-16gb-8gb-t2033692

Same thing happened to me.
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Factory reset I've read fixes it. Of course you will lose everything.
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striker59 said:
Of course you will lose everything.
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That's not true, a factory reset wipes /data, so all app data and settings are lost, but the internal storage /sdcard remains intact.
But of course a backup before doing such things is always a good idea.

luckyrumo said:
That's not true, a factory reset wipes /data, so all app data and settings are lost, but the internal storage /sdcard remains intact.
But of course a backup before doing such things is always a good idea.
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Uh, no.
The only way to fix the problem is to recreate the entire filesystem, which completely obliterates the old filesystem. What you are thinking of is the behavior of the "factory reset" procedure of CUSTOM recoveries such as TWRP or CWM which behave the way you describe: they remove all files except those in /data/media (the /SDcard is at /data/media/0 for the first user), but otherwise leave the filesystem intact ... and therefore the total size available.
The "factory reset" procedure of the STOCK recovery apparently does re-initialize the ext4 filesystem. So if you are having the "6 GB problem", it is the STOCK recovery's "factory reset" procedure that you want.
But "make a backup" is always good advise, so do that first.

bftb0 said:
Uh, no.
The only way to fix the problem is to recreate the entire filesystem, which completely obliterates the old filesystem. What you are thinking of is the behavior of the "factory reset" procedure of CUSTOM recoveries such as TWRP or CWM which behave the way you describe: they remove all files except those in /data/media (the /SDcard is at /data/media/0 for the first user), but otherwise leave the filesystem intact ... and therefore the total size available.
The "factory reset" procedure of the STOCK recovery apparently does re-initialize the ext4 filesystem. So if you are having the "6 GB problem", it is the STOCK recovery's "factory reset" procedure that you want.
But "make a backup" is always good advise, so do that first.
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Oh, okay, I learned something again :embarrassed:. I've never used stock recovery, hadn't expected that there's such a difference.

Yeah, the factory reset option fixed it for me.

Factory reset led to boot loop?

I'm on an s5 neo, rooted but using the same software it came with.
I decided to try a factory reset, as I had done a few things I can't undo, like removing mtp application, with a root app remover whose restore function doesn't work on this device.
I was also thinking, that instead of personalizing everything, and downloading everything, and then debloating, I thought I'd start fresh and then debloat first.
Thank *god*I had gotten brave enough to download and install twrp and make a backup, that back up is where I am coming to you from now.
I used the twrp recommended wipe for the reset, not custom wipe. Worked fine. Powered back on. All looked well until I came across a screen that said "just a sec..." For an extremely long time, like 10 minutes...
Why wouldn't it fully turn on, any ideas? As of now I can't factory reset ever again.... :/ and I'd like to be able to.
I hasn't disabled anything crazy and could reboot normally before I tried the wipe. I just don't get what went wrong?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
I cant even start off with a new rom I don't think, they're all made for the 903m or 903f versions of this phone, and I'm on the international 903w. I'm guessing some thing significant is different or else it would just be called the 903.
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what did you wipe in the custom wipe?
also this http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/rom-somewhat-incomplete-edition-v0-1-t3295464

I want to say it wiped data cache and dalvik cache
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Pawprints1986 said:
I want to say it wiped data cache and dalvik cache
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Well, with a bootloop you can go to recovery and recipe, then wipe data then go to advanced options in twrp and delete the Android folder in both internal and external and that should fix the issue
Recipe? I should proof read this stuff before I post it. It should have said reset, not recipe

Like, as in deleting the "system" folder, should I have wiped that too?
Or would that totally erase this current android version? And I'd be even more stuck?
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Pawprints1986 said:
Like, as in deleting the "system" folder, should I have wiped that too?
Or would that totally erase this current android version? And I'd be even more stuck?
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No, go to advanced options, file manager, then to either storage, touch the Android folder, hit the check mark in the lower right, select delete, swipe to confirm. Do this with both storages. It's not the system folder and doesn't contain anything that isn't rebuilt upon boot. But it does contain stuff from your previous install that is known to cause bootloops when going from an Android version to another. Nothing to worry about when you delete those folders. It's been the source of tons of bootloops for me

So, the android folder, in my case, I think I've only got the one internal storage path. I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure. I have technically for some reason a bunch of storages called "USB drive". But I think they're all empty. And I think sd card and emulated lead to the same place. Its a weird setup lol
I just took a screen shot of it, I'll add it in here
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Pawprints1986 said:
So, the android folder, in my case, I think I've only got the one internal storage path. I'd have to double check but I'm pretty sure. I have technically for some reason a bunch of storages called "USB drive". But I think they're all empty. And I think sd card and emulated lead to the same place. Its a weird setup lol
I just took a screen shot of it, I'll add it in here
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Don't do it from within the system. Do it from within twrp
Here, I made a little video. I'm a 100% amateur videographer, so go easy on me lol

Unable to create new folders or save anything to the internal memory

So ill try to put all the other information that's important here.
I tried flashing the Stock rom back to this phone through TWRP and I feel like I've flashed it about 8 times now. It comes up normally and I can go through the setup wizard and when I hit the home screen I tired getting Adaway. When I tried to download the apk to my phone and I try to choose a save location it keeps saying that I can't find a save location. Then I tried opening up the file manager and tried creating a new folder it says that the operation cant be performed. I have plenty of storage available on my 6T and I cant see what I'm doing wrong. I've flashed and reflashed both TWPR and the Stock ROM both Beta and official and I still run into the same issue. Is anyone able to lend a hand? Thank you in advance!
Edit: Fixed it!

I get this anytime I try to download anything to my PHONE. SD card not found
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Coolaaron88 said:
I get this anytime I try to download anything to my PHONE. SD card not found
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Format Data in TWRP
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Mannan Qamar said:
Format Data in TWRP
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Let me try that and I’ll report back
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Coolaaron88 said:
So ill try to put all the other information that's important here.
I tried flashing the Stock rom back to this phone through TWRP and I feel like I've flashed it about 8 times now. It comes up normally and I can go through the setup wizard and when I hit the home screen I tired getting Adaway. When I tried to download the apk to my phone and I try to choose a save location it keeps saying that I can't find a save location. Then I tried opening up the file manager and tried creating a new folder it says that the operation cant be performed. I have plenty of storage available on my 6T and I cant see what I'm doing wrong. I've flashed and reflashed both TWPR and the Stock ROM both Beta and official and I still run into the same issue. Is anyone able to lend a hand? Thank you in advance!
Edit: Fixed it!
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Hi, I'm facing same issue. Flashed many times stock ROM on both slots, and can't write any file or create folder.
How did you fixed it?

2be3_80 said:
Hi, I'm facing same issue. Flashed many times stock ROM on both slots, and can't write any file or create folder.
How did you fixed it?
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As stated before enter twrp and format data/ factory reset. Something went wrong and your date was encrypted.

bladestonez said:
As stated before enter twrp and format data/ factory reset. Something went wrong and your date was encrypted.
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Actually my data was encrypted but accessible through twrp. I did format data, couldn't boot system, but then I wiped data and it worked.
Thanks

Thanks!
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As stated before enter twrp and format data/ factory reset. Something went wrong and your date was encrypted.
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I ran into this same issue and this fixed it for me!