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Elephone P7000 Pioneer, 5.5" 1080p FHD, MTK6752 Octa core 64-bit, 3GB RAM

Camera Samples:
https://plus.google.com/photos/100582382505207418108/albums/6156302275625518417
Originals Zipped: http://www.mediafire.com/download/d464ch1mjdwszyu/Elephone-P7000-Photo-Samples-by-s7yler.zip
Geekbench 3 Battery Test:
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/65229
There are a lot of 200 dollars phones on the market. And the competition is intense in this price range. Elephone are trying to make an impressively designed phone, and now they achieved a new level of premium design. Now you have a smartphone that's well worthy waiting for. The display aspect ratio is obviously high, almost frameless on the sides. The metal-rimmed Elephone P7000 Pioneer looks sharp and catchy. The speaker is located at the bottom of the phone, which has better sound experience than rear speaker. There is an iphone like touch fingerprint ID on the back below the camera. No more scans, but one touch. The touch ID will recognize your fingerprint from any aspect as it's a 360 degree identifier.
The Elephone Pioneer packs the MTK6752, Octa core 64-bit SoC, due to the high potential of the chipset, it uses 3GB of RAM. And Mali-T760 GPU comes with the SoC, which is still the most powerful GPU. The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP. Furthermore, it has impressive 5.5-inch 1080p FHD display, that's undoubtedly clear and sharp. The battery is not left out for such a big display, it has 3450mAh.
Even more, Elephone will make Android 5.0 and CM available later after the release. And more UIs will be made by their developers and fans. If you want to change your phones and still hesitate about which one to buy, you have another better choice over all, Elephone P7000, 199.99 USD for pre-sale on most china phone shops!
Features
Touch ID:Support 360° identify
FOTA(wireless update):Support
OTG:Support
FM:Support
Bluetooth:4.0
Certification: CE / RoHS / MSDS
Display covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Color:Black / White / Golden
CPU
MediaTek MT6752 Octa core 1.7GHz
GPU:Mali-T760 MP
Wireless&Networks
Wifi frequency:2.4G/5G
FDD-LTE:band 1/3/7/20 (800/1800/2100/2600)
WCDMA:band 1/2/5/8 (850/900/1900/2100)
GSM:band 2/3/5/8 (850/900/1800/1900)
Storage
RAM:3GB eMMC+DDR3 Memory
ROM:16GB with 800Mbps read/write speeds
Support micro SD (T-Flash) 64GB
Display
5.5" 1920*1080 pixels PPI=400
High color gamut, 178° viewing angles
Covered by Gorilla Glass 3
Multi-touch(5 points)
Camera
Rear:13MP (SONY IMX214 f/2.0)
Front:5.0MP (OV5648)
Flash:Support
Auto Focus:Support
Battery
Battery typeolymer battery
Battery content:3450mAh (removable battery)
Standby time:96 hours Talk time:8 hours
Positioning
GPS A-GPS
Operating system
Android 5.0
USB
Micro 5pin USB
Sensor
Gravity sensor / Proximity sensor / Light sensor / E-compass/ Hall sensor
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Very nice phone with low price
I have contact elephone but they can not confirm when will they launch the product
If there any coupon code please tell me. Thanks

More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail

PabxH said:
More than 9mm thick.... This phone is not only a monster, it is a serious BRICK. And with that size having it in your pocket will be uncomfortable . Fail
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The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.

led
Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.

s7yler said:
The phone has a 3450 mAh battery, for that the thickness isn't that bad. The Xiaomi Mi4 is 8.9mm, and a HTC One M8 is 9.4mm. Sounds like you compare it with a bendable iPhone 6 Plus. THAT phone is uncomfortable in the pocket! And I don't care about a thickness a little over 9mm as long the batterylife is good. Rather that, then a thin 6mm phone that only last half a day and goes dead.
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Ok, youve got some solid points there, but for me the main positive point is that elephone is well known for the constant updates, and not forgetting that there are new versions of Android constantly. At least that is what I have heard and I believe, because most chinese smartphones these days come with impressive hardware specs but forget about software. That is the main pro I see here, forgetting the fact that it is a thick phone, I think it is a good option .

s7yler said:
The rear camera is 16MP with sony sensor, and the front camera is 8MP.
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Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.

New live picture provided by efox (P7000 left, P8000 right)
More info on http://s7yler.blogspot.com/2015/01/new-picture-of-elephone-p7000-and-p8000.html

aveenhuysen said:
Does it have a led notification light? I cant find that anywhere. With the removable battery, fm radio, nfc and expendable memory finally a phone which has it all.
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Can anyone answer?

matteo2 said:
Can anyone answer?
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Sorry but there is no info yet about it. But I guess we will soon know!

Elephone P7000 specifications
matteo2 said:
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Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199

robse.android said:
Radio: yes
NFC: yes
more details...
w**.devicespecifications.com/en/model/f9d43199
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Thanks... What about notification LED? It isn't say anything about it

deliriumxp said:
Are you sure about sony sensor? I can't find any info about sensor in Elephone P7000.
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There's a promo video of the p7000 on youtube.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xd30pWYfnR0
Assuming that the video is accurate, it should have a Sony sensor. Hope this is useful!

I actually find this one sounds pretty much perfect for me. Anyone see it out for presale with a shipping date?
The Elephone site under new products it says end of April
(sorry can't link it don't have enough posts)
I'm trying to decide whether I just live with the smaller screen of the P3000S or wait a few weeks for this.

New info today!
Elephone P7000 Pioneer Presales begin. $225 with discount code!
The icing on the cake is that Elephone are shipping the Elephone P7000 with Android 5.0 Lollipop out of the box. Three colours are available including grey, silver and gold.
Source: http://www.gizchina.com/2015/04/10/elephone-p7000-pioneer-presales-begin-225-with-discount-code/

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Dev comunity?
Where will the back button and recent apps button be? Will it have a dev comunity and support? Other than this, this phone seems perfect

Im concerned that elephone lied about the camera sensor and of course wondering how much they are exaggerating the battery. If its all as it appears in the spec sheet I think this would be great
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What about ship to Italy from gizchina.com? How long does it take? Are there custom taxes?
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I just placed an order through the Manufacturer's own retail shop. I'd recommend you do the same.
And yes they have a strong Dev community and lots of future updates on all their phones, not just the
newly released !!
I will report back once I receive the phone.

Honor 6, my review

Huawei is chinese brand well known for almost anyone thanks to network components like routers, modems, switches...presents in our homes since the ADSL started to be something common.
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However, in the last years they have go into newer markets to avoid stay behind their competitors, and that’s how they went into the mobile market with some smartphones and tablets... Although not attracting too much attention.
In order to change that trend, they have introduced a new business line under the commercial name “Honor” which flagship is the new Honor 6. It has been presented as an independent brand from Huawei, but with the backup of having such a big brand behind, something like what we can see with Toyota and Lexus on the cars world.
The most peculiar of this new brand is that they promise high specifications but at a quite reduced prices, basing their strategy on online sales. Same technique used by low cost Asiatic manufacturers or, even first brands like Google with their Nexus.
Specifications
These are the characteristics showed on their web...
*the internal storage and memory card capacity have been improved in this new version.
There are no doubts we are facing a very powerful terminal, last generation and equipped with octa-core processor and 3GB of RAM!… Now let’s see how it performs
We see each time more and more devices with amazing HW on the paper BUT, with always or almost always the same weak points on the real using experience: screen quality and low camera definition on low light situations, even having a lot of megapixels. So go on with the review step by step.
Design
Frontal and rear part come with the 3rd generation of Gorilla Glass , connected by a plastic surface on the sides... Willing to look like metal (but not giving high quality feeling). Clean and round lines not highlighting for anything in special... Unless we mention the unavoidable similarity with the iPhone 5: same round edges, power adaptor situation or the frontal speaker.
I must say here that the finish is so smooth that I found the same issue the Nokia C7 had... It slides from the hands almost automatically.
On the front, first thing we see is that amazing 5.0” IPS (with 441ppp) with the forementioned speaker on the top together with the 5Mpx secondary camera. The tactile controls are located just below the screen. With this distribution, they have reached a quite impressive 76% ratio of screen within the total surface.
Once turned back, the 13Mpx main camera (with a Sony IMX214 sensor, 1/3.06”, f/2.0, 28mm including Total Focus and software stabilizer, HDR) and dual LED flash. Looking down, only the hands free speaker is visible. Near the center of the cover only the Honor logo to get more value.
Regarding this part of the design, I must pull the engineer’s ears for putting that rear speaker compeltely flat, in a way that when we recline the device, the sound is completely absorbed...losing quality and volume.
Interior
A Kirin 920 octa-core processor with four Cortex A15 cores running at 1,7Ghz and other four cores Cortex A7 at 1,3Ghz is beating inside this Honor 6, accompanied by a Mali T628 MP4 GPU (at 600Mhz) and as mentioned above, 3GB of RAM!
The internal memory brings us the very decent amount of 32GB, and again with the option to expand them with a microSD card, up to 64GB. Bravo for Huawei/Honor guys being able to answer a bigger storage demand.
Running, performance and autonomy
This Honor 6 presents us Android 4.4 Kitkat, customized with Emui 2.3. Sincerely it’s not enough to take advantage of the great hardware on this device, however it is already possible to update to the version 3.0 of Emui bringing interesting things to users, and specially using better the phone capabilities.
We have already seen the Sony IMX214 sensor of the main camera in many different high-end smartphones like OnePlus One, Nexus 6 or Xiaomi Mi4. Nevertheless, using the same components doesn’t mean achieving the same results...
A little subsection here to talk about the number of megapisels and the quality of the pictures taken. We all know that the iPhones (even the latest ones) still mount an 8Mpx camera, while their direct competitors have already jumped to the13Mpx or even 20Mpx. This could be translated into worse pictures or customers complaining, however the company from Cupertino has shown to followers and retractors that the software behind the camera is almost as important as the sensor used, receiving in addition a lot of praises for the quality of night pictures and the incredibly speed they are taken.
That said, it’s obvious I have found some faults to Honor 6’s camera. In the same way other (most of) low-cost smartphones in the market, we can take outstanding pictures in very good light conditions but, when the light is poor (or in the night) and we must use the flash, we find a lot of nois in the pictures due to the increase on the ISO sensibility.
Recording 1080p video at 30fps shows a good quality, and the optic stabilizer helps a lot for that purpose, in exchange to limit the camera capabilities, since we know this sensor is capable of recording at [email protected] Summarizing, the video recording is very good, although we have the impression we have been cut on the hardware benefits :-/
The stock application for the camera offer basic controls, sincerely more than enough for most of users and, if someone needs more control voer some elements...there are lots of third-party applications on Google Play.
It is not a secret that the recent selfie fever makes the secondary camera become a main character. About this one, I can only say that having 5Mps work in a similar way than the rear camera, so great results with good light, and noisy ones with low-light. Remark the included “beauty effect” filter will be quite useful when taking those selfies.
When talking about the performance on this Honor 6, the only I can say is fluid and fast on every task we charge him with: browsing (wifi, 3G or 4G), productivity (email, WPS Office,...), multimedia (HD movies without lags) or games (once more Asphalt 8 comes included and runs perfectly).
About the battery, brings 3100 mAh, more than enough for standing more than one full day with standard/intensive use.
It includes also an energy saving tool, proven quite useful with a lot of tweaks available.
And again I must give a shout to the engineers, premium range and not including the fast charge system? Please! It would be great to charge 90% of this battery in 15 minutes.
I am not following the trend of pasting screen-shots of amazing benchmarks results, like AnTuTu and others, since every smartphone today will bring very high scores and this not always mean a great user experience.
Conclusions
A very balanced terminal on every field, some initial complaints that are solved with Emui update, and surely with Lollipop.
The price of this smartphone with the new configuration (32GB ROM and up to 64GB by adding a microSD) is not even 330€, in online shops like Etotalk, including the VIP shipping via DHL (door to door). What makes of it a very interesting option

[REVIEW] Xiaomi Redmi Note 2

Chinese manufacturer Xiaomi (one of main players currently) has just presented an update for his Redmi Note model, with a few novelties and the goal of being one of most popular smartphones for the season.
Packaging and design
The box is “iPhone-like” in paperboard color, something I've liked since it looks a little bit more Eco-friendly, and at the same time it's simple and elegant.
In the box we find the terminal properly wrapped, a charger (with US plug, not the European one), a good quality USB cable, the warranty and instructions both in Chinese.
As usual lately, no signs of the earphones, we'll have to get used :-/
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The design of this Redmi Note 2 is very simple and clean, on the front we have the secondary camera on the top, then the 5,5” FullHD screen with just the 3 touch buttons typical from Android.
On the right side we have the volume and lock buttons, both seem made in good quality
Looking at the bottom, the micro-USB plug and the microphone. We have the jack 3.5 plug for the (non included) earphones and the secondary microphone for noise cancellation on the top.
So we have a completely free left side, something very common nowadays, due to the big size of the devices, the buttons are grouped in just one of the sides.
Once we flip it, the main 13Mpx camera (we have no information about who is manufacturing it), the LED (not dual) flash and the speaker on the bottom with the XIAOMI logo.
When we remove the back cover, we found the removable battery, the slots for the 2 micro-SIM and another one for the microSD expansion card.
This model is available in 5 colors: white, blue, yellow, pink and mint green.
Hardware
The technical specifications are quite good. Just to start, it's equipped with the new X10 octa core from Mediatek, so 64-bits and 2.0Ghz speed. The 2GB of RAM memory put it on the middle of the table, since most of new phones already come with 3GB or 4GB if we talk about flagship devices.
To complete the game, we find a GPU Power VR G6200 that will put all the sauce for videos and games to play smoothly.
Model* Xiaomi Redmi Note 2
SO*MIUI 7 (Android 5.0)
Processor*X10 64bits, octa core @ 2,0Ghz
GPU Power VR G6200
RAM*2GB
Screen*5,5” IPS LCD FullHD 1920x1080,*with*403ppi and 16M colors
Storage*16GB + microSD
Cameras*Main 13Mpx with flash LED; front 5Mpx; video 1080p @ 30 fps
Connectivity*Wi-Fi 2.4GHz b/g/n with Wi-Fi Direct support // BT 4.0*// MicroUSB (High Speed USB)
Dual SIM*GSM: 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 Mhz ; 3G WCDMA: 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 Mhz; 4G FDD-LTE: B1(2100MHz) / B3(1800MHz) / B7(2600MHz)
Other*G-sensor, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, Wifi, GPS, OTG< Multi-touch, Dual SIM, Schedule Power on/off, E-compass, Hall IC, Gravity Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Light Sensor, Magnetic Sensor, Gyroscope Sensor
Battery*3060mAh removable
Dimensions*152 x 76 x 8.25 mm
Weight*160gr with the battery
Colors White, blue, yellow, pink, mint green
Price*From $169.99 with current promos
Software and Multimedia
The Redmi Note 2 comes with the almost last version of Android 5.0 (Lollipop), however we won't appreciate it since the customization layer is very “intrusive”. We are talking about the very well known MIUI, which brings a iOS flavor that either you love or you hate normally.
MIUI is probably one of most known Android ROMs and doubtless one of the strengths that helped Xiaomi growth as much and sell their handhelds outside of China.
In this case, the Redmi Note has the v7 of MIUI and as expected it runs very well, fluid and smooth even when playing 2K videos. However, in my opinion is a little bit silly to play 2K videos in a 5,5” screen, even a very good one like this case. It will be very interesting if we are using a remote screen, and we are broadcasting to a big screen, but (and again is just my opinion) with a smartphone, I guess FullHD is already a great resolution.
On the same way, games (like Asphalt 8) run perfectly thanks to both the powerful chip X10 and the GPU Power VR G6200.
Camera
Nowadays it's very common to find 13 Mpx cameras on almost every smartphone. If we compare this one to other Chinese phones, we can say the results are very good.
It's not the main point in this phone, although as said before it achieves quite good results, specially with daylight (very good pictures!). But when the light is reduced, for example taking night pictures there is a lot of noise on the images.
When we move to video recording, FullHD at 30fps offer very good quality.
Battery
The trend is now to go around 3000mAh, and Xiaomi hits that mark in this case.
Of course the duration will depend on how much we use the smartphone and for what. Taking into consideration that on the first days we will be trying everything and the use will be much more exhaustive that the normal one.
However we will reach the end of the day without any difficulty, using data, camera,...
Conclusions
We have on our hands a very good terminal. We can notice it on the finishing and the overall user experience, thanks also to the good integration and performance of MIUI 7.
I don't like to open the box and don't find the earphones, but it becomes the rule now, so I will finally have to get used to that. I know manufacturers try to cut cost wherever they can, and they guess we all have good earphones already... but if you're presenting a device with an impressive screen and powerful enough to play and enjoy the multimedia part, why don't you complete it with a good earphones?
I'm sure this is a problem that we don't have when buying an iPhone or last Galaxy S or LG or any other first brand smartphone, since they have margin enough to pay quality extras.
This model (Redmi Note 2) is on the medium range so we have to consider it like that. If we are looking for a top class (Chinese) device we will have to choose the Xiaomi Mi5 (when available) or Xiaomi Note Pro and there the price will be already above 500€.
Are you looking a good smartphone for less than 200€? don't think more, you have to look and consider this one. It's not only because of the specifications on the paper, it's also (or mainly) because step by step the Chinese manufacturers are differentiating among them.
Xiaomi and Meizu have proved (or are proving yet) to be above the other Chinese companies... so if you have similar prices, ask for quality!
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Thx for the review

has or has not Gorilla Glass
has or has not Gorilla Glass

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has or has not Gorilla Glass
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The glass is so called "Dragontail" which is actually very scratch resistance.
My problem so far with RN2 is the network location service, they return simplified chinese text to apps, also the international ROM is very buggy.

I got one question: Is a screenprotector already applied from the manufacture?
Btw I noticed you saying there are the 5 colours you mentioned but actualy there is also the colour gray (dark) (the one picture in your review has also a gray backcover)

Yes, screen protector is already applied but it covers front camera... So you have to change it

My device did not have a screen protector pre-applied.

Very strage

Should I swap my huawei p8?

I have been offered a Xperia Z5 compact for the P8 (not lite)
What would you guys say?
What advantages/disadvantages are there on each device?

There are my toughts at first sight:
Sony:
-Better CPU
-Better update Support
-Smaller display (4.6)
-rain resistant
Huawei:
-more RAM (2gb vs 3 gb)
-a little more battery
-higher ressolution (HD vs full HD)
-full metal body
-better price
-i dont have Z5 but i thing it has not that good camera

Sony also has much lighter and smoother skin. 23MPix camera records much better videos. P8 may have more RAM but because of very aggressive memory management you wouldn't use even 2GB.

majaczos said:
Sony also has much lighter and smoother skin. 23MPix camera records much better videos. P8 may have more RAM but because of very aggressive memory management you wouldn't use even 2GB.
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Every modern smartphone has aggresive memory since their power incredibly rise every year but bettery capacities are still the same (Samsung S5 started this trend if i remember good), if you didnt have ram management you would be out of juice in half of day, also, you can dissable hibernation of apps in power management. What do you think about lighter skin? do you mean that custom android skin? to be honest, marshmallow has improved emuis speed very nice, but yeah, stock android of sony is a little ligher. In the case of camera, megapixels are not important at all. In Z5, you dont have RGBW sensor, so when youll want to take a shot agains sun or in bright conditions, this will be big downgrade in quality. Bigger ressolution does mean nothing when you have too dark or too bright photos and dont forget, Z5 has not Optic sabilisation too. Its up to you, whats your priorities in smartphone using, its pretty easy decision, if you dont mind lower screen size with noticable lower resolution, worse camera and lower ram, you can think about swapping. Me personally would probably stay with p8 because of camera, better body construction, i dont mind that CPU is a bit quicker then huaweis, and also DTS is better than clear audio too

agree with 00471
you will not use more than 10 mp with p8 camera

majaczos said:
Sony also has much lighter and smoother skin. 23MPix camera records much better videos. P8 may have more RAM but because of very aggressive memory management you wouldn't use even 2GB.
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No OIS on Z5, that means super shaky videos.

Short answer, P8 all the way. I think we got more updates than Sony. Even if i was offered the P9 i wouldn't take it over the P8.

5.2 inch vs 4.6..are u crazy )) and p8 is 3 time more beautiful device ..and may br here is not the right (objectively) place to ask that..i mean probably if you are asking in the xperia section they will tell you something different ..becouse they like xperia..we like huawei

P8 may have bigger battery but it also has worse battery life.
@00471
Every phone has some sort of RAM management, thing is - Huawei's one is the most aggressive. When display goes off it kills everything in the RAM. Whatever you're doing, go for pee, make a sandwich, whetever - all apps will reload. No other Android skin does that. Worse - you can't turn it off, all you can do is to lock every single app in the multitasking menu.
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No OIS on Z5, that means super shaky videos.
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OIS means very wobbly videos with very strong jelly effect on the sides. Z5 has excellent digital stabilization which works much better than any OIS (especially while shooting in 1080p). Recording videos is where every single Huawei fails because of low bitrate (=little details) and pretty bad processing. Even P9 records terrible videos.
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Short answer, P8 all the way. I think we got more updates than Sony. Even if i was offered the P9 i wouldn't take it over the P8.
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Huawei is the worst company in the world in terms of updates. Their 2014 flagship (P7) will never get Marshmallow, P8 is still on Lollipop and it may get an update somewhere between May and June. Or later. And it will be the last update for this phone. Even Samsung is better than Huawei.

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P8 may have bigger battery but it also has worse battery life.
@00471
Every phone has some sort of RAM management, thing is - Huawei's one is the most aggressive. When display goes off it kills everything in the RAM. Whatever you're doing, go for pee, make a sandwich, whetever - all apps will reload. No other Android skin does that. Worse - you can't turn it off, all you can do is to lock every single app in the multitasking menu.
OIS means very wobbly videos with very strong jelly effect on the sides. Z5 has excellent digital stabilization which works much better than any OIS (especially while shooting in 1080p). Recording videos is where every single Huawei fails because of low bitrate (=little details) and pretty bad processing. Even P9 records terrible videos.
Huawei is the worst company in the world in terms of updates. Their 2014 flagship (P7) will never get Marshmallow, P8 is still on Lollipop and it may get an update somewhere between May and June. Or later. And it will be the last update for this phone. Even Samsung is better than Huawei.
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Yes they are, but still p8 is much better device than Sony compact, and marshmallow is already released for like 2-3 weeks and don't forget, custom Roms are coming, aosp is in development, then there is one fantastic chinese stock based Rom that is already in process of porting for Europe (thanks to both autors)
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majaczos said:
P8 may have bigger battery but it also has worse battery life.
@00471
Every phone has some sort of RAM management, thing is - Huawei's one is the most aggressive. When display goes off it kills everything in the RAM. Whatever you're doing, go for pee, make a sandwich, whetever - all apps will reload. No other Android skin does that. Worse - you can't turn it off, all you can do is to lock every single app in the multitasking menu.
OIS means very wobbly videos with very strong jelly effect on the sides. Z5 has excellent digital stabilization which works much better than any OIS (especially while shooting in 1080p). Recording videos is where every single Huawei fails because of low bitrate (=little details) and pretty bad processing. Even P9 records terrible videos.
Huawei is the worst company in the world in terms of updates. Their 2014 flagship (P7) will never get Marshmallow, P8 is still on Lollipop and it may get an update somewhere between May and June. Or later. And it will be the last update for this phone. Even Samsung is better than Huawei.
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You really don't know what you are talking about!. Please don't lump sum your opinions of a certain device "which i don't know which Huawei device you had actually tested instead of reading about" and promulgate it as if it is truth. Every device should be treated like a special case and can't speak for the whole brand because you haven't tested every device from that brand.
Clearly you haven't played enough with a huawei device to appreciate it especially the latest models, i have had the P8 since October last year and i have had 5 updates since then tell me how many brands have given that?, our device is one of the first devices to test marshmallow before any major brands. The beta marshmallow has been released a couple of months ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/ota-update-gra-l09-android-6-0-t3268757 and the official one has been released 2+ weeks ago for just my version. Granted not to all regions at the same time or all the different versions of P8 but still better than others.
OIS means Opticial Image Stabilization you can't compare it to a digital one even if there are better implementations of it on some devices like the Sony Z5 and the Nexus 6p. You can tell the difference when taking or shooting night shots between digital and OIS.

@Rashad83
You're so judgmental. How do you know which device I do and don't have? For your information - I'm running Huawei P8 as my daily driver for a couple of months now. I own one and I'm basing my judgements on my own experience with this phone. I got one update - to B200. It's still 5.0.1 Lollipop (it's not the latest even for Lollipop!). I don't care when they started beta tests altough they weren't all that early (and beta tests don't really matter) - competiton was updating their flagships to Marshmallow already. There's only one thing that matters - ALL other manufacturers updated their 2015 flagships already, many of them managed to release Marshmallow for 2014 flagships as well. Huawei's 2015 flagship may get Marshmallow in a few months, their 2014 flagship won't get it at all. Huawei is the worst company in the world in terms of updates.
I'm not talking about the night shots but videos. OIS means crappy and wobbly videos. Z5 is recording one of the best clips in the world, their Steady Shot EIS does wonders. OIS should help in night shots but Huawei isn't all that great here either - there's crazy amount of noise. Here's my creation - white ceiling during cloudy day:
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Pink spot in the middle and crazy amount of digital noise. Camera literally lost it, OIS didn't help at all. It was 2pm!
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Yes they are, but still p8 is much better device than Sony compact, and marshmallow is already released for like 2-3 weeks and don't forget, custom Roms are coming, aosp is in development, then there is one fantastic chinese stock based Rom that is already in process of porting for Europe (thanks to both autors)
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It's not better, it has its own issues. Custom ROMs? For Kirin? All three of them? Chinese stock ROM is not all that different than international one. Marshmallow is still in beta, it may be released in a month or two from now. Thing is - all major producers already updated their 2015 flagships, most of them did the same for their 2014 flagships.

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@Rashad83
You're so judgmental. How do you know which device I do and don't have? For your information - I'm running Huawei P8 as my daily driver for a couple of months now. I own one and I'm basing my judgements on my own experience with this phone. I got one update - to B200. It's still 5.0.1 Lollipop (it's not the latest even for Lollipop!). I don't care when they started beta tests altough they weren't all that early (and beta tests don't really matter) - competiton was updating their flagships to Marshmallow already. There's only one thing that matters - ALL other manufacturers updated their 2015 flagships already, many of them managed to release Marshmallow for 2014 flagships as well. Huawei's 2015 flagship may get Marshmallow in a few months, their 2014 flagship won't get it at all. Huawei is the worst company in the world in terms of updates.
I'm not talking about the night shots but videos. OIS means crappy and wobbly videos. Z5 is recording one of the best clips in the world, their Steady Shot EIS does wonders. OIS should help in night shots but Huawei isn't all that great here either - there's crazy amount of noise. Here's my creation - white ceiling during cloudy day:
Pink spot in the middle and crazy amount of digital noise. Camera literally lost it, OIS didn't help at all. It was 2pm!
It's not better, it has its own issues. Custom ROMs? For Kirin? All three of them? Chinese stock ROM is not all that different than international one. Marshmallow is still in beta, it may be released in a month or two from now. Thing is - all major producers already updated their 2015 flagships, most of them did the same for their 2014 flagships.
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Well, i got different feeling about the p8. About that shot you posted, it looks too noisy compared to mine photos, look at attachment (taken in dark room). That chinesse is very good tweaked compared to stock, it has many functions from CM but yea, its still stock based so if you dont like EMUI, you wont like that either. IOS makes big difference in photos, i tested it myself, the image is much more steady and photos are sharper, and about support, i agree, huawei is worst company in matter of updates and support itself, but seriously, you got something wrong with your camera, never had that bad shot even in night

One more thing - look how beautiful display P8 has:
Contrast may be good on papier and good for reviews because it's decent only at some angles. Other than that there's a very strong negative effect. That's how it looks on a white wall:

DOOGEE MIX - Information & Reviews - 5.5" HD | Helio P25 | 4/6GB | 64/128GB | AMOLED

DOOGEE MIX - Information & Reviews - 5.5" HD | Helio P25 | 4/6GB | 64/128GB | AMOLED
DOOGEE MIX
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Specs:
Dimensions: 76.2 x 144 x 7.95 mm
Weight: 193 g
Chassis: Metal with Back Glass
SoC: MediaTek MT6757CD (Helio P25)
CPU: ARM Cortex-A53, 4x2390 MHz, Cores: 8
GPU: ARM Mali-T880 MP2 900MHz, Cores: 2
Network: 4G Cat.6 (300MBps) with VoLTE Support
RAM: 4 GB/6 GB
Storage: 64GB/128 GB
Memory cards: microSD, microSDHC, microSDXC
Display: 5.5 in, 720p, AMOLED
Protection: Gorilla Glass 5
Battery: 3380mAh, Li-Polymer
OS: Android 7.0 Nougat, FreemeOS skinned.
Back Camera: 4920 × 3264 pixels (16MP), Samsung ISOCELL Sensor, with 3264 x 2448 pixels (8MP) 2nd Camera
Front Camera: 3264 x 2448 pixels (8MP)
SIM card: Dual-SIM, Dual-Standby
Wi-Fi: a, b, g, n 2.4GHz/5.0GHz, dual-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: Micro-USB, 2.0
Bluetooth: 4.1
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS, GLONASS
Other Features: Front Fingerprint Scanner, High screen-to-body ratio
Colors: Dazzle Black, Blue (two variants)
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http://www.doogee.cc/detail/mix-series-bezel-less-smartphone/106
Development & Support:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/doogee-mix-development-support-t3632785
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My own review: Post #6 & #7
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Will this phone have a led notification light?
Do you know when it will be released?
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Both info are unknown for now, what i can tell you is that i may receive it in June.

Does anybody know when the 128GB version will be available again?

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Does anybody know when the 128GB version will be available again?
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They will start to distribute the 4/64 variant first, then (i guess after a while), also higher capacity ones.

Review (part 1)
Introduction
This is the DOOGEE MIX.
Hardware
Being one of the first Xiaomi Mi Mix clone released in 2017, this MIX tries to be as similar as possible (of course not equal), providing a 5.5" screen in a smaller body. Also as regards the RAM/ROM capacity, it tries to be as similar as possible, with a maximum of 6GB of RAM and 128GB of ROM. Unfortunately though it uses a Mediatek CPU, precisely the Helio P25, that isn't bad at all, but not as powerful as a Qualcomm Snapdragon 820.
Unboxing
Packaging, with a really nice look, comes with some accessories: 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x 5V/2A USB Charger, 1x Quick Start Guide, 1x Warranty Certificate, 1x Hard Plastic Case, 1x Phone Holder (Ring), 1x SIM Card Tray Remover and the Smartphone (of course). A plastic screen protector is already applied, and an extra protector is included.
As already introduced before, the design has been copied almost entirely from the Mi Mix, but with a Metal Chassis (instead of Ceramic), a smaller overall size (being smaller the screen) and less glossy colors. The device feels solid, and the Gorilla Glass panel placed on the back makes it looking really premium.
When it comes to the size, well...this is able to beat all 5.5" inches devices released in the last few years. It is only 14.44x7.67x0.80cm, unbelieably compact, but with a weight of 198g, unfortunately feels heavy due to the small size and high weight. I guess the amount of glass increased its weight.
On the front side there almost bezel-less AMOLED Display with an overall clean look (2.5D curved) and the upper front side of the device features an Earpiece (a real one), and the Sensors hole that includes Light, Proximity and Gesture Sensors. Somehow they choose to not include a Notifcation LED, in 2017 i think this is a must have feature.
As regards the lower front side, there is the Fingerprint Scanner in the center (doesn't work as a physical button, can't be pressed), and a Front-Facing Camera that due to space issues couldn't have been placed on the upper side. There is some wasted space though.
On the back side there is the Glass Back Cover i mentioned before.
The upper rear side of the device features the Dual Camera Sensor supported by a Single-LED - Single-Tone Flashlight, and nothing else. On the lower rear side, excluding the DOOGEE logo, there isn't anything at all because the Speaker is positioned on the lower side of the device.
Device
Screen
This is the most interesting part of the device, its almost bezel-less AMOLED screen looks gorgeous, even though i don't like AMOLEDs too much (due to unreal colors). Talking about color accuracy on a AMOLED is like talking about speed for a city car. Colors look really saturated and un-real, and the white balance is a bit messed up. Someone can like it, someone might not. This is really personal.
Unfortunately due to its 720p Resolution, pixels are noticeable on camera, and sometimes also while using it. I don't understand why DOOGEE choose to include a 720p screen instead of 1080p, the Helio P25 is fast enough to handle 1080p Apps/Games.
Its light sensor supports smooth light changes with a maximum brightness of ~500lux. Great Brightness for best usage under direct-sunlight.
Viewing Angles are awesome, as we all know, AMOLEDs are the best when it comes to this.
Camera
Luckily DOOGEE choose to include a pretty good camera sensor for this device, a Samsung ISOCELL 16MP sensor with fast focus-time and good overall quality. It also supports Camera API 2 for Manual Controls such as Manual Focus, RAW Recording and so on. This is the first Mediatek Device i review with Camera2 Compatibility.
I guess the software isn't 100% ready though because the amount of noise is slighlty too high even while shooting outdoors, and sometimes the Flashlight is out-of-sync.
Here you can see an HDR-on/off comparision, plus some random extra photos.
The Blur Effect using the "Blur" option seems to work. (aka Bokeh)
Macros are probably the most detailed ones.
Indoors shoots are decent, nothing to complain about.
The flashlight isn't super powerful, being a Single-LED only, but it is still able to support the camera sensor properly, when it isn't out-of-sync of course.
As regards Video Recording, the quality and frame-rate of 1080p30 videos is OK, and it can shoot also in 2160p25 with a decent stable frame-rate.
The Front-Camera is placed on the lower front side of the device, so you need to shoot photos with the device upside-down for selfies and so on. The Quality isn't too bad, but colors look a bit washed-out.
Audio
Surprisingly, considering the small size of the device, its Speaker is powerful, with a little amount of low-frequencies and excessive distortion at maximum volume. The Earpiece though is a whole different story, due to its limited size, there is a complete lack of low-frequencies, and the volume is a bit limited.
As regards the Microphone, it is as good as the speaker, with high sensitivity and clarity. Everyone was able to hear me perfectly while in-call.
GPS
GPS Quality is perfect, with no issues at all with signal stability and accuracy. Finally Mediatek fixed the GPS on the Helio P25 considering the amount of issues present on the Helio P10.
Indoors on the left, outdoors on the right.
Telephony, Mobile Network & WiFi
Providing full european bands support (with 4G Band 20), the device was able to keep a stable connection to my 4G Network, with decent speeds (considering other devices tested in the same place) and mid-high signal.
WiFi 5GHz is supported, and connected at 121Mbps, i was able to reach almost ~60Mbps. Probably not as high as expected from the Link Speed, but still better than using the 2.4GHz connection.
Battery Life
As my usual reviewing routine, i measured the real battery capacity using an USB Tester, and it seems to be way lower than declared, ~300mAh less. (declared 3380mAh, real ~3080mAh)
Luckily, PCMark run just fine on this device even though it is running Android Nougat. Other Mediatek Devices with Nougat (and also some with Marshmallow) caused the Benchmark to stop by itself after some hours. The result is not so good unfortunately for a 3380mAh battery, but for a 3080mAh it is acceptable.
Thanks to the 2.0A charger, and the small battery, it is possible to recharge the device completely in more or less 2 hours. Maybe a Pump Express Charger would have been appreciated for even faster charging, but it is fast enough already.
Software
Unlike previous DOOGEE devices, this is the first one released with DoogeeOS (based on FreemeOS), with an ad-hoc launcher and some extra customizations. It is based on Android 7.0 Nougat (hopefully will be updated to 7.1.1 soon), with June 2017 security patches and, unfortunately, some pre-installed bloatware that can be uninstalled and/or disabled.
The UI feels smooth, i must admit not as smooth as i would have expected, but this is an early release so i can't blame DOOGEE for that. OTA Updates will gradually improve the device, just like other brands do.
Following the Mediatek line-up, also this one features MiraVision, Gestures (such as tap-to-wake) and so on...
Yes, it includes a Magnetometer/Compass and Gyroscope! Finally a device with a complete set of sensors.
No malwares detected with Malware-Bytes Anti-Malware using latest definitions.
As regards the Fingerprint Scanner management, it is as easy to manage as on all Android Nougat devices, and it is fast to unlock the device. I have to report that sometimes, after keeping the screen off for a long time, it sleeps a bit too much, requiring to turn on the screen in order to get the finger recognized.

Review (part 2)
Benchmarks
I have used 3DMark, AndroBench, Antutu Benchmark, Epic Citadel, GeekBench 4, GFXBench, PCMark (Work 2.0, Computer Vision, Storage & Work 1.0) and Vellamo to stress the device to the limit. I won’t test Games or Video Playback because there are already some related tests included in these Benchmark suites.
3DMark – Thankfully the Mali-T880MP2 is able to handle almost everything.
AndroBench – I don't know yet the eMMC brand and model, but its performance is really good.
Antutu Benchmark – I won’t say a lot about this benchmark, this isn’t as reliable as others. I’m providing this just for benchmarks lovers.
Epic Citadel – 720p Gaming on a Mali-T880MP2 = Buttery Smooth experience.
GeekBench – CPU Performance is confusing. The CPU is recognized as MT6757CH instead of MT6757T, and its performance isn't higher than a Helio P20. Software Issue? I hope so.
CPU
Compute
GFXBench – Just like on most GPUs, this benchmark struggles to run smooth. This is normal, only super high-end devices could handle this properly.
PCMark – Interesting results, being the first time i benchmark an Helio P25 i do not have any point of referral that i can use to compare these scores.
Work 2.0
Computer Vision
Storage
Work 1.0
Vellamo – Luckily Vellamo is kind enough to provide a list of devices in order to compare all scores, and the result is as good as i would have expected, excluding for the Single-Core benchmark, a bit low.
Conclusions
DOOGEE MIX, the first innovative device i have reviewed in the 2017. Clone of the Mi Mix? Not really. I would call it the little brother.
The device itself beats all previous DOOGEE devices when it comes to the design and overall price-performance ratio, and excluding the software that isn't ready yet in my opinion, i find it to be unique and balanced.
Of course it isn't perfect, due to missing the Notification LED and 720p screen, but being the first try from DOOGEE to release something 100% new and hard to engineer, i am definitely happy with the result.
Do i recommend it? It is all up to you, this is a device that has some features that some users may like and some users may not. Personally, i like everything except the AMOLED over-saturated colors, but i know lots of friends that love this kind of screens so...think on every single feature and choose if it can satisfy your requirements or not. ^^
Pros:
Outstading Design
Ergonomically Perfect
Android 7.0 Nougat with latest security patches
Camera2 API Supported for Manual Focus and RAW Capture
AMOLED screen for real blacks
Magnetometer/Compass & Gyroscope are here
Cons:
Sleepy Fingerprint Scanner
HD-only screen = Low Pixel Density
Over-Saturated screen colors (PERSONAL)
No Notification LED
Battery Capacity doesn't match the declared value (at least on my review unit)
Rating: 8.6
Packaging and Accessories: 9
Design and Materials: 10
Performance and Heat Dissipation: 9.5
Screen: 8
Camera: 9
Sound: 7.5
Battery Life: 7.5
Software: 7
OEM Support: 9
Price: 9.5
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/a3OcI
Official Website: http://www.doogee.cc/detail/mix-series-bezel-less-smartphone/106
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the DOOGEE website.​

Awesome review. Bought one... waiting for it to arrive. I'll hope to have custom roms for it.

looks like at the end there are some benchmarks there that are not suppose to be there, namely for the xiaomi mi mix instead of doogee mix

jeffreydeleeuw said:
looks like at the end there are some benchmarks there that are not suppose to be there, namely for the xiaomi mi mix instead of doogee mix
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Some benchmarks recognize the device incorrectly unfortunately

Alberto96 said:
Some benchmarks recognize the device incorrectly unfortunately
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ok no problem

Thank you for the good review. do you think that cistom roms will be released for this device?

Excellent job on the review Alberto. A lot of work you put into it. We're working on a TWRP now.
Our review will be coming soon.

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Thank you for the good review. do you think that cistom roms will be released for this device?
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Chinaphonearena said:
Excellent job on the review Alberto. A lot of work you put into it. We're working on a TWRP now.
Our review will be coming soon.
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Dev. & Support thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/doogee-mix-development-support-t3632785

And the speaker sound is real stereo?
There will be a software that ix the recording video sound or is a hardware bug?
Thanks

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And the speaker sound is real stereo?
There will be a software that ix the recording video sound or is a hardware bug?
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1) No, single speaker on the bottom.
2) I don't have the same issue :/

While having the Mix (6GB version) for 3 days now, I wanted to share my thoughts with you:
Pro:
- Display is almost as sharp to my eyes as a 1080p (thought this would be a minus)
- Looks nice and has premium feeling
- Works OK
- Is quite speedy
- Excellent mic (people hear me very well)
- fingerprint sensor works very fine on my sample
Cons:
- Very Heavy!!!
- Camera indoors is total crap, cannot even take any photos which are sharp, it seems this one cannot even properly focus in mid to low light.
- Earpiece speaker max. loudness is less than Oneplus X, Vernee Mars or Asus, or Nexus 4 (which is the best)
- Loudspeaker is waay to silent, compared to other ones, barely usable with speakerphone setup.
- battery drains faster then my OPX (which has low reputation)
- IT's not a bezel-less design, since it's wider than my old ASUS Zenfone 2 Z00AD.
And I'm afraid no SW update will come soon (or even ever) to this one.
But - Value for money is OK.
my 2 cents.

Bluboo S1 or Maze Alpha? I'm considering cancelling my order for Maze Alpha and grab the S1 instead.

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1) No, single speaker on the bottom.
2) I don't have the same issue :/
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I was Cheated. I got a response from Doogee's support that the Doogee mix had stereo speakers and that there would be an update to correct the camera's sound and other errors. Mine is already on the way and should be almost to come ... if I could I cancel the purchase and buy the bluboo s1 or another of the same range. thank you

Great Review my friend