Got a preorder S7 Edge to upgrade an aging S3. Had an original S1 before that.
I turned it on and started using it (no pre factory reset wipe)...For some reason, my free Gear VR is still in the box unopened. I must try it.
Mostly, the S7 Edge is a great phone:
Camera is excellent in low light
General speed (using a Exynos version if that makes any difference)
Generally accurate fingerprint sensor
Exceptional battery life and good quick charge.
What's not so good (and the reason for this post to see if I can reach out to you guys for some help):
Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
Surely this is trivial to achieve in software. Yes I know you can record multiple fingerprints, but still.
If you follow John Carmack on Twitter, you will have seen a tweet on this
Now some software issues.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
"In 50 metres, take the ...."
"In 100 metres, turn ....."
It doesn't do it all the time, but as you can imagine, when it does, it's f*cking annoying, especially as I use the Nav on the bike sometimes where I have the phone just in my jacket pocket and I wear earphones to listen.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
Finally, this is the last expensive (over priced) premium phone I will buy...I bought the other half a Meizu m2 Note for Christmas to replace an OG Galaxy Note.
It was difficult at first as I had to install an English ROM and remove some crap, but the phone is pretty flawless and it makes me question spending the price of a small used car, more than the price of 4 sets of sticky track day motorcycle tyres, or more than the price of my American style large fridge freezer....on a phone.
If anyone has solutions to my issues listed, your help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
-IK- said:
Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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I do not use the edge touch all that much, but it seems like you need to swipe from the bezel, onto the edge of the screen for it to work every time, that works for me at least.
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I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled?
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Was the phone in direct sunlight, on a mount etc.? If so it makes sense why it would overheat while using GPS, if it was in a case and in a pocket etc. that might be the reason as well, since it wouldn’t be able to be cooled as well. They call it water-cooling, but it's actually a vapor chamber afaik, that condenses the cooling fluid in the heat sink part, as the heat is removed from the cooling fluid, and then lets it evaporate once again when it goes into contact with the parts that need cooling, at the other end of the heat pipe.
-IK- said:
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You need to register your fingerprints where you do not just use the finger in one orientation, but multiple, I usually do the different angles that my fingers might be in when unlocking the phone. Having them at a 45-degree angle etc. since you can do a ton of different angles before it has "saved" your print.
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Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Couldn't agree more.. I felt I was the only one...
Edge screen is problematic... not many apps in play store for edge screen.
Another problem I found was automatically starting multi screen mode.. very annoying.. had to install an app just to disable it. No out of box way to disable it.
With my S3, I could specify call blocking using just a pattern.. (e.g. block all incoming calls starting with 0845) can't do that S4 onwards
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How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
aygul12345 said:
How is the overheating issue? Does it quick overheating?
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It takes some time before it overheats, and that is when its in direct sunlight.
Has anyone had the issues with Google Maps navigation?
-IK- said:
Perhaps it's my screen protector, but I have tried about 4 (some cheap, some expensive), but why is it that edge touch is not very accurate and does not always register?
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Probably the protector. I have no problems with the edges on mine. None of the TGSP protectors are worth a penny.
I used my phone as a motorcycle sat nav when touring around Germany recently and I got the dreaded, your device is overheating....I thought these were water cooled? It may have been my case as it was a hot day, leather case, and no vents. Not seen that message since.
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There's a fraction of a millilitre of liquid in there. It helps, but it works by transferring heat to a larger area of the phone's back. If that heat is trapped by a case..... I haven't used it on my motorcycle, but have had no overheating problems using Nav in my convertible.
The fingerprint sensor software is not very clever. Why does it not change the detection orientation when the phone orientation changes?
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You can store multiple orientations of your fingerprint when you set it up. Instead of holding your thumb or finger in one position and just moving it up and down, program the sensor with your thumb horizontal and vertical, and at angels in between. I can rotate my thumb 90 degrees and the phone still unlocks. All in one of the four storage locations. I have one programmed for my right thumb, one for my left, and the other two for each index finger.
Smart Stay basically doesn't work. Doesn't work how it used to on the S3, which to be honest wasn't great, but it plainly doesn't work on my S7 Edge. Anyone had this?
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Yep, this seems to be a bug. Quite a few people have encountered this, including me.
Google Maps navigation has some issues in that the voice cuts off in the middle of instructing what roundabout exit to take or which turn to make.
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I've not encountered this at all.
Oh yeah...I do wish I had just gone with the standard S7 due to edge issues (see above), but I love reading PDFs on the larger screen and longer lasting battery.
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I'd have chosen a flat S7 if they made one with a 5.5" screen and large battery, but as I said above I have no issues with edge touch.
Quick update...
The recent MMB29K.G935FXXU1APF2 update seems to have cured my Google Maps navigation voice issue.
Also, the touch screen sensitivity issues are resolved by using the SGS Touchscreen Booster app.
It says that it only works on the original Galaxy S, but this is not true.
usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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Lol.. you can very easily scratch a screen in a day or not at all for years.. my S3 hasn't got a single scratch (touch wood) it's exactly being 4yrs today since I received it first....
ulasharga said:
usage a month I've scratched screen , if anyone has experienced the same thing ?
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The glass scratches easily.
I use a cheap Chinese screen protector (I have tried the expensive ones too and don't see the benefit).
I tried a tempered glass protector made by Olixar, but the company doesn't seem to test it's products together because it was incompatible with their leather case.
I sent the glass back for a refund and put another cheap screen protector back on, and so far no scratches. The back is a different story, yes even with the leather case.
I recommend at least to use a screen protector but also a leather case for some drop protection.
If the scratches are not too deep you may be able to remove them using cerium oxide powder.
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Hi,
today, I noticed the following:
I speak german in the video but, in principle, I say that I twist the tablet slightly and the touchscreen responds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhGQvxi-dA
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In a local store, I noticed the same on an WiFi version, I own the LTE Version.
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Hi,
today, I noticed the following:
I speak german in the video but, in principle, I say that I twist the tablet slightly and the touchscreen responds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhGQvxi-dA
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In a local store, I noticed the same on an WiFi version, I own the LTE Version.
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As I did on android-hilfe.de I confirm here that I also have this problem but it is not as apparent as it is in your case.
mattforchi said:
As I did on android-hilfe.de I confirm here that I also have this problem but it is not as apparent as it is in your case.
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I experience it slightly too, don't see it as an issue though as it requires some severe force.
Mercury0660 said:
Hi,
today, I noticed the following:
I speak german in the video but, in principle, I say that I twist the tablet slightly and the touchscreen responds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhGQvxi-dA
edit:
In a local store, I noticed the same on an WiFi version, I own the LTE Version.
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My advice: Do not twist it. Tablets are not made to be twisted.
Mercury0660 said:
Hi,
today, I noticed the following:
I speak german in the video but, in principle, I say that I twist the tablet slightly and the touchscreen responds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRhGQvxi-dA
edit:
In a local store, I noticed the same on an WiFi version, I own the LTE Version.
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The black 32GB Wifi version (North America) I received does exactly this and the backing is coming unstuck. Whether the screen flex would be as pronounce without that defect, I don't know but I'm very disappointed with Sony's quality assurance. It does make it feel flimsy.
I'm returning the tablet and am going to wait for the new wave of Tegra 4 tablets from other manufacturers.
Most resistance against flexing is provided by sides so it will flex more then thicker devices , i think its obvious.
The touchscreen responsiveness shouldn't be happening but it requires quite a bit of force so in normal use its not an issue. I didn't even realise it exists up till now.
GL on your travels.
Luckily I dont have this on my tablet z.
My xperia z however does and it gets annoying every once in a while.
This is a trade-off for the particularly thin build Sony pulled off here. My Archos does the same thing and is pushing on 3 years (granted, i don't use it much any more, but it got a lot of abuse in its day).
There are probably ways it could have been almost as light, almost as thin, and a whole lot stiffer - and possibly a good idea, too. But it is what it is. It's not a material defect, but a design decision - perhaps one not so good, but we won't likely know for a little bit...
Guys, I am also getting the flex which is causing homescreen swipes and back button presses. I was using the Moko Slim Cover case from Amazon. The weight of the case while being held with only the right hand was causing MAJOR problems with unintentional screen presses/swipes. Now that I have removed the cover while I wait for a new one, it only happens once in a while.
I just ordered an Incipio Feather to see if the more rigid design will support the device and not allow it to twist. I only wish the Incipio Lexington had a wake/sleep magnet included.
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Guys, I am also getting the flex which is causing homescreen swipes and back button presses. I was using the Moko Slim Cover case from Amazon. The weight of the case while being held with only the right hand was causing MAJOR problems with unintentional screen presses/swipes. Now that I have removed the cover while I wait for a new one, it only happens once in a while.
I just ordered an Incipio Feather to see if the more rigid design will support the device and not allow it to twist. I only wish the Incipio Lexington had a wake/sleep magnet included.
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You could probably cut the Moko open and observe the magnet placement and undo the Lexingtons stitches and place the magnets in it and redo the stitching. I am thinking about doing this myself because of the damn screen presses.
I wonder if putting it in the Feather and then in the Moko would stop the presses..... Time to order one!
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You could probably cut the Moko open and observe the magnet placement and undo the Lexingtons stitches and place the magnets in it and redo the stitching. I am thinking about doing this myself because of the damn screen presses.
I wonder if putting it in the Feather and then in the Moko would stop the presses..... Time to order one!
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Yes, I have both the Feather and the Moko and they do work very well together. I do sometimes still get an unwanted screen swipe left or right, but it is very rare compared to when I first received the tablet and was using it bare.
I also just received the Poetic case which is more of an iPad type of case which I really like. However, Poetic covered up the charging port so you have to open the cover (The cover hinges at the bottom of the XTZ) to charge the XTZ unless you cut a portion of the cover away.
I really like this tablet, but the battery life is killing me. I would have rather Sony make the tablet twice as thick and put a >10,000mah battery inside. I'm looking heavily at a Nexus 10 at this point because it seems to have the best battery while still having a great screen, fast processor and 2GB memory. Initially the lack of an SD slot was a deal breaker, but I'm finding that Sony didn't allow a way to move apps to SD which basically makes my 64GB microSD sit empty since I purchased the tablet.
Very happy with this case Profile Grooves Stand Case for Sony Xperia Tablet Z 10.1 inch from ebay the tab is more stiff and the tab sleep when cover is close. For the flex Sony can make and stiffer back cover.
The Nexus 10 has even shorter battery time than the Tablet Z! Duh!
I would be surprised if that were true. The Nexus 10 has nearly a 10,000 math battery.
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It is true. And known all over the internet. The Nexus 10 has a rather short battery life because of the energy-hungry components.
I love the Z1. So much. BUT:
- It's slippery as hell. I live in a humid climate and I nearly dropped it at least 10 times taking it out of my pocket when its a little wet.
- Speaker - Not a big issue as most of us use headphones anyway, but still annoying when showing videos to someone in public and all you hear is this mangled mess of tinny audio.
- Camera presets - Sony, for the love of god, please allow me to jump into my camera SAVE MY SETTINGS in a preset for those point and shoot moments!
Aside from that, this phone kicks a**. And yes, I have no problems with the 'viewing angles' - I am not a crustacean and my eyes are generally level with the screen during use.
What do you guys think? After some time with the device, what kinda tweaks could be made to improve it?
I'd prefer the back to be aluminium since I also think it's too slippery.
I use a lanyard wrist strap from an old sony camera instead of a case and I think it's great, it can't fall and it still looks sexy.
the only problem i have is how fragile it is. i'm on my 3rd one since release. one fell out of my pocket and broke (i was sitting down) and one pressed against my keys in my pocket and the screen shattered.
1988amr said:
- Camera presets - Sony, for the love of god, please allow me to jump into my camera SAVE MY SETTINGS in a preset for those point and shoot moments!
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This would be very useful. 3rd party apps could provide this kind of functionality. But the problem is sony does not permit access to camera functions to these 3rd party apps. LG isn't any better, the nexus 5 & G2 are in the same boat too.
This means we're dependent on the stock app for complete functionality.
When will they allow saving presets in the stock app ? anybody's guess
1988amr said:
- It's slippery as hell. I live in a humid climate and I nearly dropped it at least 10 times taking it out of my pocket when its a little wet.
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I'm in the exact opposite situation weather wise, cold and dry. Really ****ing slippery unless you go around with sticky hands which wouldn't be too professional in my line of work.
I'd love to find some kind of grippy rubbery tape I could apply in stripes on the phone, preferably on the sides. Haven't found anything despite extensive searches.
Anyone else have a tip where such a thing could be found?
For me it is the Flashlight which is placed in the worst place. Everytime i do a picture with the flash i see in every shot the light coming from the bottom side and so 1/4 of the picture is "white"....
rage77 said:
I'm in the exact opposite situation weather wise, cold and dry. Really ****ing slippery unless you go around with sticky hands which wouldn't be too professional in my line of work.
I'd love to find some kind of grippy rubbery tape I could apply in strike on the phone, preferably on the sides. Haven't found anything despite extensive searches.
Anyone else have a tip where such a thing could be found?
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How about this ?
Sony Xperia Z1 TPU Gel Skin Case / Cover
One Twelve said:
How about this ?
Sony Xperia Z1 TPU Gel Skin Case / Cover
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Thanks but I really don't want to add any bulk to the phone so I'd rather not have a case on it. Hence the grippy stripes idea.
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Thanks but I really don't want to add any bulk to the phone so I'd rather not have a case on it. Hence the grippy stripes idea.
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https://www.west49.com/products/skate/grip-tape.html
Most malls in Canada and the USA have a West-49, a skater type shop.
If all else fails, most Canadian Tire, WalMart and other similar "we have everything you'd ever need" type stores sell tape with sandpaper type texture on one side. Just don't cheap out. Buy the vehicle quality 3M brand, as that's waterproof and moisture proof, and won't peel off from being taken in and out of a pocket frequently.
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Thanks but I really don't want to add any bulk to the phone so I'd rather not have a case on it. Hence the grippy stripes idea.
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A gel case isn't bulk, that's the most minimal case you'll ever get for the Z1. Can hardly tell its even there if you colour match.
Grip tape will be a dust& lint magnet. yeah great for grip but how comfortable after a bit.
Seelbreaker said:
For me it is the Flashlight which is placed in the worst place. Everytime i do a picture with the flash i see in every shot the light coming from the bottom side and so 1/4 of the picture is "white"....
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I have that problem too sometimes but it usually goes away if I wipe down the camera lens glass. Not sure why it fixes it, but it does.
ASF - it just gets in the way cause its scratched so easily
just use glass with oleophobic coating like every other phone manufacturer does - if you want additional protection buy a screen protector (which are much harder to scratch then the ones Sony uses on their phones..)
phone is a massive fingerprint magnet due to bad quality ASF..
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For me it is the Flashlight which is placed in the worst place. Everytime i do a picture with the flash i see in every shot the light coming from the bottom side and so 1/4 of the picture is "white"....
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What case are you using ?
I'm adding a new peeve - my wifi after switching to 4.3 is horrendous. Need like a super hi performance router to keep any connection and even in my car it takes ages to connect to bluetooth. Def some connectivity issues going on here after the update...
Also, I have night shots that are noisy AS HELL.
Any suggestions?
New one, loose USB port flap. No more waterproof for me
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I'm adding a new peeve - my wifi after switching to 4.3 is horrendous. Need like a super hi performance router to keep any connection and even in my car it takes ages to connect to bluetooth. Def some connectivity issues going on here after the update...
Also, I have night shots that are noisy AS HELL.
Any suggestions?
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factory reset for the wifi. i had to do that to fix some other issues after updating (static during calls, proximity sensor not working)
I always do a factory reset after updates. It ends up saving you time...
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Pet peeves..well I'll start off by saying I am in fact very happy with the handset, it's a beautiful device and performs beyond anything I'd ever expected.
But those peeves...
1: Magnetic charging is a novelty and in reality the magnets aren't powerful enough to use in the car as the cable just falls off.
2: A Navbar the size of a small country, Sony created a wonderful screen then filled a good deal of it with Navbar. I shouldn't have to root and use Xposed to reduce it.
3: No white balance settings...I mean come on, the older Z had it!
4: White phone... But black screen bezel totally ruins the looks of it, I picked the black one for that reason.
5: Rooting 4.3 (for now, I know this will change in the future) is a pain.
And finally.
The camera flash has more noise in it than a rock concert, with a case on it just ends up whitewashing the pictures.
But I'd still have an Xperia over ANY other handset.
So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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Mine had scratches right out of the box and I scratched it further thinking there is a protective film over it since it looked like it had one. Its definitely a concern in the long run though I was able to get rid of the scratches by using toothpaste. My home button also wobbles a bit vertically and if I tap it gently in the left corner, it creates a clicky noise. The biggest concern for me right now is the pink tint on my s6's screen on the bottom half and left side. I can exchange but may end up getting the same/worse unit since most of the people who faced this issue ended up getting worse/similar units.
Will the finger print scanner stop working after many scratches is something we can only guess at the moment.
What's it made of?
The home button had the same vulnerability on the Note 4 and Note Edge, but it never affected the fingerprint reader. Micro scratches galore, but nothing too glaring and didn't affect the functionality.
Well, i certainly will agree right now, what i see is micro, and has had no impact on the scanning (4 fingers registered, no issue at all). I am a little disappointed that with the excellent build otherwise exhibited, something people will use most may be the most prone to scratches; but i also accept that that sensor may not work with more durable materials.
Still, a little more reassuring that the Note 4 is similar and should be ok..
I've noticed some minor scratches too on my home button. I'm not sure whether they were there out of the box as I didn't think to look closely at the time.
I imagine you could take a cheap plastic/PET type screen protector and cut out an oval shape and put it on the button. I'm not sure whether that would change the fingerprint recognition or not since I don't know how those scanners work. It would be easy to test though even before trying to cut the shape out.
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So, like many, i have jumped on the S6 bandwagon, and am rather enjoying it so far (so much so that i haven't even bothered with bootloader or root yet). And while over the few days so far the glass is great (i would hope so.. sheesh), i have noticed some scratches already on the home button. Now, being that no phone will ever stay perfect, i accept that wear and tear will happen, but i was surprised to see it this early.
Certainly, i am happy enough with the phone (non scratched glass, good battery life (with bloat disabled), etc), but am curious to see if i am alone in this, or others have the same issue.
And more to that - will the scratches become a problem for the fingerprint reader (something i do enjoy using, and would like to keep doing so)? Perhaps some voices of experience can bring some wizdom..
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any chance the micro scratches were there out of the box? i've had mine since April 1st and don't see any scratches...yet.
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any chance the micro scratches were there out of the box? i've had mine since April 1st and don't see any scratches...yet.
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Actually, yes, it is quite possible, as i noted them just about the second day i had it, and was shocked to see them. I may not have the smoothest thumbs, but the scratches went all the way across, which is also odd.
So far, no real issues, but it was surprising to see (part of me wrongly assumed the button was also glass).
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Actually, yes, it is quite possible, as i noted them just about the second day i had it, and was shocked to see them. I may not have the smoothest thumbs, but the scratches went all the way across, which is also odd.
So far, no real issues, but it was surprising to see (part of me wrongly assumed the button was also glass).
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honestly it should be glass. guess they're still working on premium quality 100%
it may be more likely that they were there out of box. i've tried scratching mine with my nail and no dice.
they have some assembly line and packing kinks to work out clearly. my device thankfully came unscathed but the plastic wrap that covered the phone looked like someone had pulled it back on with their finger/nail - there were 3 little indentions on it.
So, i hope its not related, but i have had my phone now fail to read my fingerprint a few times, and pop up a notice saying there was a failure, and if it keeps happening, reboot the phone. A reboot (or even manual unlock) seems to work, but i am hoping its not a sign of things to come...
No micro-scratches here yet....
I've confessions to make: I'm obsessed with physical buttons wearing off! The first app I installed is "pie control", which is something I really got accustomed to and find more practical than using home button and recent button, incidentally this saves a lot of click on the home button. I've been using for a while even an accessibility feature that let you wake up the phone by waving in front of it, to be honest I don't use much this one. Then again I use Nova Launcher and I set up a shortcut to lock the phone double tapping the display. I know I'm way overcaring about this, on the other hand I just dismissed my old S3 that was still practically perfect even after almost 3 years of usage.
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So, i hope its not related, but i have had my phone now fail to read my fingerprint a few times, and pop up a notice saying there was a failure, and if it keeps happening, reboot the phone. A reboot (or even manual unlock) seems to work, but i am hoping its not a sign of things to come...
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Let me recommend you something what I personally did after finding micro scratches right out of the box. Use an ear bud (used to clean ear) and a very small amount of toothpaste. Apply a little paste on the bud and gently rub the home button for a min or so. Once done, wipe it from a damp cloth and also taking out bits an pieces of the paste that may have got around the gaps.
I was completely able to remove micro scratches doing the above and hope it helps you too. People have also used the above method to clean their camera lenses with great effect. Look out for a thread under the Xperia Z3 compact page where people complaint of having scratches on their camera lens after using the phone for a while.
Note - Dont rub too hard on the home button. It wont harm but will take away the gloss from the button leaving it looking matte.
CafeKampuchia said:
What's it made of?
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The button is actually metal, but the substrate for the sensor (on top) is of a type of polymer film- like plastic? I'll post a source link when I get a chance. Thx
See link:
It's definitely not durable
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I'll give it a try tonight the toothpaste and the q-tips .... hope it works... i'll try to be as gentle as possible and go up from there ... thanks for the info man. Same problem here. Came, I believe scratched from the box, had a scratch on it from the first day and it went up from there. Dunno what is wrong with samsung they always have to screw up somehow.
Hawkeye1103 said:
I'll give it a try tonight the toothpaste and the q-tips .... hope it works... i'll try to be as gentle as possible and go up from there ... thanks for the info man. Same problem here. Came, I believe scratched from the box, had a scratch on it from the first day and it went up from there. Dunno what is wrong with samsung they always have to screw up somehow.
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Yeah... I do believe they messed up this time.
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They decided to use a non-durable substrate. The above article explains why. Good luck!
Lucidd33 said:
Yeah... I do believe they messed up this time.
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This is just conjecture. While it may very well be true, the author doesn't give any evidence or references to back this claim. For all we know, Samsung may have chosen plastic simply because it was cheaper.
when the iPhone 5S was launched, a few people expressed concerns that the sort of CMOS scanner they were using tends to deteriorate over time. This, thankfully, hasn't proven to be the case; however I think that this deterioration is mitigated by an exceptionally strong sapphire glass coating on the 5S's home button - and now on the 6 and 6 Plus.
I have concerns for the durability of the S6 home button too - not for the scratches (which mine also exhibited after only 6 days of careful use), but for the likelihood of the sensor itself wearing out over time, as they are supposedly prone to doing. If Samsung have indeed skimped on the protection this home button requires for long-term durability then people will be in for a nasty shock further down the line when they can no longer use the fingerprint recognition, or when it deteriorates to the point of being useless. For those who recommend using toothpaste to clean the scratches out, I would suggest that this is a terrible idea - clearly scratches are going to reappear anyway, and taking some of the already weedy protection away from the fingerprint scanner with a micro abrasive surely can't be a good idea.
I'm really happy with the S6 but the home button is a big concern for me. I simply don't think it's as high quality as the ones Apple use. My 6 day old S6 has been exchanged by the store for a new device as the home button not only rattled but didn't work at all on the left side unless it was pressed with a degree of weight. My replacement still jiggles a tiny but but is at least better.
To me this is a bigger issue than 'Sensorgate', which is just a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.
leoni1980 said:
when the iPhone 5S was launched, a few people expressed concerns that the sort of CMOS scanner they were using tends to deteriorate over time. This, thankfully, hasn't proven to be the case; however I think that this deterioration is mitigated by an exceptionally strong sapphire glass coating on the 5S's home button - and now on the 6 and 6 Plus.
I have concerns for the durability of the S6 home button too - not for the scratches (which mine also exhibited after only 6 days of careful use), but for the likelihood of the sensor itself wearing out over time, as they are supposedly prone to doing. If Samsung have indeed skimped on the protection this home button requires for long-term durability then people will be in for a nasty shock further down the line when they can no longer use the fingerprint recognition, or when it deteriorates to the point of being useless. For those who recommend using toothpaste to clean the scratches out, I would suggest that this is a terrible idea - clearly scratches are going to reappear anyway, and taking some of the already weedy protection away from the fingerprint scanner with a micro abrasive surely can't be a good idea.
I'm really happy with the S6 but the home button is a big concern for me. I simply don't think it's as high quality as the ones Apple use. My 6 day old S6 has been exchanged by the store for a new device as the home button not only rattled but didn't work at all on the left side unless it was pressed with a degree of weight. My replacement still jiggles a tiny but but is at least better.
To me this is a bigger issue than 'Sensorgate', which is just a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned.
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You do make some really good points… When you returned your phone for exchange, was it a big pain in the ass? Did they hint that they do an exception for you?
I've just become very wary about returns, exchanges because I've been screwed before on exchanges and being stuck with a mediocre device.
Anyways, I am very surprised that not too many complaints about the sensor has come up on the web searches so far.
I could demonstrate that the home button wouldn't work on the left side unless I pressed it hard. They were able to replicate it themselves so it wasn't too much of an issue. I struggle to deal with high street stores in matters of poor quality control though as they tend to take the stance of 'I can't see anything...it's not really an issue to me'. One thing I miss when I move away from Apple products - not to sound like a fanboy - is that I feel I can trust that they will rectify any little annoyances I have.
One thing I feel confident in saying with absolute certainty is that the home button on the Galaxy S6 is not even close to the quality of Touch ID. It works, and it works well; but the feel it gives when you click it, the overall travel and the cheap plastic feel is a giveaway. Samsung are nearly up to iPhone standards with this device in terms of quality control but this button is its Achilles heel - they kind of cheaped out.
I just got mine a few days ago and have noticed that the built quality is still inferior to Samsung and iPhone. I'm strictly talking about the glass as it's not completely flat. You can see reflections distort and the distortions are very apparent around speakers and corners. I even doubt a tempered glass would stick in those areas. Are yours the same? Samsung and iPhone are completely undistorted. Bugs me with I'm gonna RMA it. Pretty disappointing but outside of that, I like the phone but this problem makes the phone look very cheap!
My glass and most everything else about this phone is fine. I placed a glass screen protector on mine. No problems. Don't really know exactly what you're talking about. Maybe yours is defective and rma might be wise. Hope this helps.
I've had four, and all had completely flat glass.
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My glass and most everything else about this phone is fine. I placed a glass screen protector on mine. No problems. Don't really know exactly what you're talking about. Maybe yours is defective and rma might be wise. Hope this helps.
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I've had four, and all had completely flat glass.
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I was at CES and looking at all the 6P's at the Huawai booth, I did not find one phone with a completely flat glass. I must admit, I'm a product designer/developer so I pay attention to these kind of things, normal eye may or may not catch these problems. But I'm guessing the glass on your phone is somewhat not flat as well but you just don't know what to look for. Easiest way is to use an edge in the glass reflection that you know is completely straight, for instance, the edge where the wall and ceiling meet, then you slowly swivel, or tilt the phone so you see the edge reflection running up and down the glass. If that edge slightly distorts(not straight), then you have a glass that's not flat. And this is VERY apparent around corners and speakers. And if you take a Galaxy or iPhone, that edge will always stay straight. Maybe I'm picky, but it just makes the overall phone looks cheap.
BTW, I've returned the phone because it bugs me so much...
Mine is perfectly flat and a glass screen protector sits in flush
my glass screen protector refuses to stick in the bottom right corner! i bet this is why.. currently its out for warranty repair for an unrelated build quality issue
Yup mine is not flat either. Noticed it when I placed my phone on the table. The sun was shining on the display and at exactly the right angle you can see distorted reflections. Like someone pressed way to hard on the display. Well Don't think it can hurt because it's maybe about 0.001mm and not noticeable at all in daily usage.
Mine is flat.
If those displayed models in ces were not flat, I doubt any of them are. Again, you need to know what you're looking for or else you only think it's flat.
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Ive replaced my nexus twice, all three had distortions on the glass but it did not affect the screen protector from sticking on all sides, some luck I guess.
Even I have the same problem on my 6P and I think that's the reason why my top left corner of tempered glass is not sticking
I think the majority of 6P's have many, many issues. Mine is pretty crap, but I've had it for over 14 days and so I can't get a refund to then buy a 6s plus... I'll just have to put up with this
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Maybe I'm picky, but it just makes the overall phone looks cheap.
BTW, I've returned the phone because it bugs me so much...
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Yes, you are extremely picky.
I tried your test and don't see any distortions. But I guess you WILL find something else that's not perfect anyway.
Flat here. RMA.
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If those displayed models in ces were not flat, I doubt any of them are. Again, you need to know what you're looking for or else you only think it's flat.
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This exactly, I believe none if flat. Mine isn't flat either but nobody else noticed it on my device. It's absolutely fine in daily use though. What bothers me more is the gradient color effect on my screen from yellow to pink. I think it could be related to the fact of the screen not being flat. Personally I think it's unacceptable for a €650 phone in 2015... Just when I thought about rma, I saw my colleagues note 3, exactly the same, not flat and even worse then my 6p, that's when I decided to keep it.
Edit: I also had it on my oneplus 1 & 2 so again, if you know where to look for...
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Yes, you are extremely picky.
I tried your test and don't see any distortions. But I guess you WILL find something else that's not perfect anyway.
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You're absolutely right, I'm a product designer/developer and QC is a big part of my job.
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Don't worry! Samsung has mediocre quality as well. Many s6 users have this, but it doesn't affect anything though like installing screen protectors!
From my experience, I find only LG caring for fine details and build quality!
anyone have this issue with their 6P?
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This is my second 6P, just wondering if this is normal or not
Fullmetal Jun said:
Don't worry! Samsung has mediocre quality as well. Many s6 users have this, but it doesn't affect anything though like installing screen protectors!
From my experience, I find only LG caring for fine details and build quality!
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Your right there. Took me 4 s6 phones to.get one without horrendous tints on the screen. Worse than anything on the nexus 6p
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Your right there. Took me 4 s6 phones to.get one without horrendous tints on the screen. Worse than anything on the nexus 6p
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6P uses Samsung displays.
As you know I'm thinking about the V20 or Pixel XL and I'm wondering has anyone still been having the cameras on these shattering or has this defect been corrected?
The lens cover sticks out from the back of the phone. If you're careful about setting it down, you shouldn't have any problem. A good case should mitigate the problem further.
It had to have been a bad batch because myself like plenty of others have dropped out tested the theories of the people who cracked there's and nothing has happened so far. Hoping I didn't just jinx myself.
Mine cracked in my pocket. No keys or or anything else in that pocket. Pretty sure it wont be covered under warranty, so I'm looking for a replacement but no luck on parts yet.
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Mine cracked in my pocket. No keys or or anything else in that pocket. Pretty sure it wont be covered under warranty, so I'm looking for a replacement but no luck on parts yet.
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Was there any kind of significant temperature change (being outside in the cold for a period of time and then going inside a warm place or vice versa) right before or around when you noticed it had cracked? I'm just curious because if not the only thing other thing I can imagine causing them to spontaneously break, would be if the way they were installed somehow causes the them to be under constant pressure? That's crazy though this is a first time time I've heard about this so hopefully it won't be widespread, does it the camera itself break too or just the lens around them?
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I was in and out of the house and it was 40°F outside, 70°F inside. I'm assuming I bumped up against something. Camera still works, just the lens is broken. Wide angle camera is useless though since the shatter originated there. Right now I have a piece of tape over the lens to keep it from cracking any more and damaging the cameras.
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I was in and out of the house and it was 40°F outside, 70°F inside. I'm assuming I bumped up against something. Camera still works, just the lens is broken. Wide angle camera is useless though since the shatter originated there. Right now I have a piece of tape over the lens to keep it from cracking any more and damaging the cameras.
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Would you buy another V20 after this?
People say the s7/s7e camera shatters easily too but I've never had that problem.
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As you know I'm thinking about the V20 or Pixel XL and I'm wondering has anyone still been having the cameras on these shattering or has this defect been corrected?
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I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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I use Defender cases a lot, but the one for the V20 looks like plain overkill. I wish Supcase made one for the V20. Not a lot of Defender style case options for V20 but it's only been out for one half months now.
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Would you buy another V20 after this?
People say the s7/s7e camera shatters easily too but I've never had that problem.
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I came from the Note 7. Only reason I bought the V20 was because I didn't like the S7E. I am not too pleased with this phone. For being a phone with such a great camera, I find photos taken in auto to be lackluster. I know you can get some great shots with manual mode, but I have a 1yo that doesn't sit still long enough to mess with the settings. The N7 was great for just point and shoot. I'll use my Cannon DSLR for more advanced shots. Also, to me, it feels like the software isn't as well optimized as on the N7. It gets sluggish at times and the battery doesn't seem to last long either. It may be my overall frustration with phone since August, going through the 2 recalls and 5 phones in that time, but I am disappointed to say the least.
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I use otter box case. Dropped my phone on concrete, nothing happened.
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I came from the Note 7. Only reason I bought the V20 was because I didn't like the S7E. I am not too pleased with this phone. For being a phone with such a great camera, I find photos taken in auto to be lackluster. I know you can get some great shots with manual mode, but I have a 1yo that doesn't sit still long enough to mess with the settings. The N7 was great for just point and shoot. I'll use my Cannon DSLR for more advanced shots. Also, to me, it feels like the software isn't as well optimized as on the N7. It gets sluggish at times and the battery doesn't seem to last long either. It may be my overall frustration with phone since August, going through the 2 recalls and 5 phones in that time, but I am disappointed to say the least.
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Note 7 for me had some stutter to it but other than that the phone was PERFECT! Well maybe put an IR blaster on it. I was so ticked I had to get rid of it. Nothing else out there fits my preferences 100 percent right now. We are kind of in the lull period until next March when the S8 series comes out.
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Note 7 for me had some stutter to it but other than that the phone was PERFECT! Well maybe put an IR blaster on it. I was so ticked I had to get rid of it. Nothing else out there fits my preferences 100 percent right now. We are kind of in the lull period until next March when the S8 series comes out.
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I have high hopes for the S8's. Hopefully my wife will let me upgrade when they come out. That's if I can find the glass lens to fix this phone
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I have high hopes for the S8's. Hopefully my wife will let me upgrade when they come out. That's if I can find the glass lens to fix this phone
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I expect the larger version of the S8 or S8 edge or whatever they call it will have similar size to the S7 edge. I don't think we will get a bigger screen until the Note 8 comes out. I'm not a huge fan of the curves and rather would have a fully functional large screen. I wonder if a lot on here plan on keeping the V20 until the Note 8 is out.
I would like the Note 8 to be like the v20 and have removable battery, and bring back the IR blaster too.