LTE Bands - Which is Most Worldwide? - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Seems there are 4 versions with different LTE bands, is the US version the most worldwide adaptable?

optionalmgrr.la said:
Seems there are 4 versions with different LTE bands, is the US version the most worldwide adaptable?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66970594&postcount=11
Depends on where you plan on visiting and what carrier you'll be using.

xtermmin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66970594&postcount=11
Depends on where you plan on visiting and what carrier you'll be using.
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thanks. how much idea when us version xt1644 will be out??

optionalmgrr.la said:
thanks. how much idea when us version xt1644 will be out??
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Motorola's website says Mid-Summer 2016.

any idea what would mid-summer mean? to me now is mid-summer already lol
fact is, there are moto g on ebay from india, but it seems indian units are xt1643 which supports less bands.

optionalmgrr.la said:
any idea what would mid-summer mean? to me now is mid-summer already lol
fact is, there are moto g on ebay from india, but it seems indian units are xt1643 which supports less bands.
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In the US, Summer starts on June 21st and ends September 23rd, so probably sometime in July.

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NFC version...where and when?

Has anyone heard about when or in which markets this will be available? I kind of want it.
Through AT&T in the US sometime in 2012. I kind of get the sense it will be first half of 2012 from what I have read but that's total conjecture. Supposedly with LTE and NFC.
Might take a look at this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423401
Tapatalk is good
How about a International version as I'm in the UK and I think the US one is using LTE?
airwater9 said:
How about a International version as I'm in the UK and I think the US one is using LTE?
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Doubt there will be an international version with NFC.

[Q] International version 6P in USA

Can somebody plz tell me how to get hold of an International version of 6P in USA (specifically in Phoenix)..
Actually, will those versions available in USA
vikram66778 said:
Can somebody plz tell me how to get hold of an International version of 6P in USA (specifically in Phoenix)..
Actually, will those versions available in USA
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They are all the same version, if you are referring to the gold version there is no way maybe eBay but it will be very expensive, which in my opinion is stupid just for a color.
Even if you do obtain one somehow, warranty service might be extremely painful.
dislplin01 said:
They are all the same version, if you are referring to the gold version there is no way maybe eBay but it will be very expensive, which in my opinion is stupid just for a color.
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No, , Huawei has made a version for North America which support overall some less LTE bands and has some 1 or 2 specific LTE bands for USA carriers.. Whereas international version support all the available LTE bands so that you can use any sim...
sharpehenry said:
Even if you do obtain one somehow, warranty service might be extremely painful.
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I don't think that will be a problem for me... I never claimed a warranty for any of my devices till now :angel:

128GB/6GB Version, is it confirmed...?

Hi Guys,
Is it pretty much officially confirmed that the 6GB RAM, 128GB model will not be sold in the US?
Such a shame, I would have bought this with 6gb memory with a $100 more, than the Zenfone 3 Deluxe...
I believe they said that it will be made available to the international market in the future. No precise date tough...
I'm sure it will sell well no matter where it is launched. Those are some gaudy numbers.
They might be waiting for the SD821
Sent from my SM-G935F
allan1229 said:
They might be waiting for the SD821
Sent from my SM-G935F
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Very unlikely since it's already out in China wth s820...
Thanks for your responses guys! Any one of you thinking of getting the 128 International model for here? Will it work with our GSM providers in the US?
Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Thanks for your responses guys! Any one of you thinking of getting the 128 International model for here? Will it work with our GSM providers in the US?
Thanks!
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If you mean the 128gb version from China, it will probably work but you won't have full coverage and 3G at best.
If you mean the 128gb version when it's made available, it'll be fully compatible, as is the interbationnal 64gb version.
djona12 said:
If you mean the 128gb version from China, it will probably work but you won't have full coverage and 3G at best.
If you mean the 128gb version when it's made available, it'll be fully compatible, as is the interbationnal 64gb version.
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Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
ProFragger said:
Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
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I can't say for sure LTE capability on the chinese version in the US is inexistent but i do believe that it's not optimal. I don't know what bands are used in the US. With that said, you can easily look it up and compare the bands you need with the bands on the chinese version
ProFragger said:
Thanks bud, yeah I meant the 128gb Chinese version in case that version never arrives here. I am surprised that the Chinese model will have 0 US LTE compatibility, huh?
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Correct, no US LTE bands, as is usually the case for Chinese models.
xtermmin said:
Correct, no US LTE bands, as is usually the case for Chinese models.
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Wow this is such a news to me! And since this is my first ZTE I will be interested in, do you know if ZTE generally offers unlocked Bootloaders and kernel sources? AKA is this a good Development community phone?
Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Wow this is such a news to me! And since this is my first ZTE I will be interested in, do you know if ZTE generally offers unlocked Bootloaders and kernel sources? AKA is this a good Development community phone?
Thanks!
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Unlocked bootloaders, no, ZTE has no history of unlocking BLs. They did say, however, that they'll be doing it for the Axon 7 at some point. When that'll be, nobody knows.
Kernel sources are already out, but they're not much use until a BL unlock comes out.
xtermmin said:
Unlocked bootloaders, no, ZTE has no history of unlocking BLs. They did say, however, that they'll be doing it for the Axon 7 at some point. When that'll be, nobody knows.
Kernel sources are already out, but they're not much use until a BL unlock comes out.
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Thanks for the education! So no unlocked BL meaning, no TWRP and likely no CM 13, 14...? But how about Rooting, has that been horrendous as well?
Thanks!

South Korea

There are a ton of G6s on eBay from South Korea "ready to ship". Will they work on TMO USA VoLTE?
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km8j said:
There are a ton of G6s on eBay from South Korea "ready to ship". Will they work on TMO USA VoLTE?
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I'll let you know tomorrow when mine comes in :good:
Rado_vr6 said:
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I'll let you know tomorrow when mine comes in :good:
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Hah, you bit the bullet, huh? The sellers say that they won't btw. What about flashing firmware and such?
km8j said:
Hah, you bit the bullet, huh? The sellers say that they won't btw. What about flashing firmware and such?
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Possibly, but with no TMobile firmware it's hard to say. I'll just try it out and see tomorrow. We could get lucky. I get HD Voice on my pixel, so maybe I'll get lucky with the G6.
Rado_vr6 said:
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I'll let you know tomorrow when mine comes in :good:
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Who is the seller you bought from on eBay? I tried with 2 of them, and both doesn't actually have the phone, they wait till u place the order and pay, then they go to the market and buy one for you.. I think i replied to another one of your posts.
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
Who is the seller you bought from on eBay? I tried with 2 of them, and both doesn't actually have the phone, they wait till u place the order and pay, then they go to the market and buy one for you.. I think i replied to another one of your posts.
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Falling_in_seoul is the person I bought from. He had them in stock and shipped mine out Monday afternoon Korean time. So it'll be Tuesday my time with it gets here.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/232264061288?...vr_id=1180439763703&_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true
Rado_vr6 said:
Falling_in_seoul is the person I bought from. He had them in stock and shipped mine out Monday afternoon Korean time. So it'll be Tuesday my time with it gets here.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/232264061288?...vr_id=1180439763703&_mwBanner=1&ul_noapp=true
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Appreciate it, msgd him now to confirm if its dual sim and if he can ship tomorrow for sure. So lets see..
Rado_vr6 said:
Possibly, but with no TMobile firmware it's hard to say. I'll just try it out and see tomorrow. We could get lucky. I get HD Voice on my pixel, so maybe I'll get lucky with the G6.
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Pixel is certified on TMO US.
Amjad.AbdulGhani said:
Appreciate it, msgd him now to confirm if its dual sim and if he can ship tomorrow for sure. So lets see..
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I don't know about the dual SIM, but I do know that it has quad DAC and 64gb.
Rado_vr6 said:
I don't know about the dual SIM, but I do know that it has quad DAC and 64gb.
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For everyone to know, the seller just confirmed that its not a dual sim, it's strange that the Korean editions are not dual sim. Its a Deal breaker for me, will wait for the dual sim version then.
Big question is really just bands and cert on T-Mobile us
Rado_vr6 said:
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I'll let you know tomorrow when mine comes in :good:
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You get yours?
Lte bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/38/39/40/41
Wcdma bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1 (2100)/2(1900)/5(850)
Gsm bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1800/900/850/1900
Offtop: above stated seller at Ebay declares that Korean models support Wcdma b8(900), but it's just wrong.
Offtop 2: you can enter Engineering Menu and control (check/uncheck) all the bands in G600S/K/L by pressing 5457#*600# in stock dialer.
km8j said:
You get yours?
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The blizzard kept it from coming!!! I was quite pissed.
koreezzz said:
Lte bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/26/38/39/40/41
Wcdma bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1 (2100)/2(1900)/5(850)
Gsm bands in Korean G600S/K/L:
1800/900/850/1900
Offtop: above stated seller at Ebay declares that Korean models support Wcdma b8(900), but it's just wrong.
Offtop 2: you can enter Engineering Menu and control (check/uncheck) all the bands in G600S/K/L by pressing 5457#*600# in stock dialer.
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But this doesn't necessarily mean B12 will work on T-Mobile if that version isn't certified. No b66 also. Does TMO have that live anywhere?
km8j said:
But this doesn't necessarily mean B12 will work on T-Mobile if that version isn't certified. No b66 also.
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Correct!
But it's the only way to get G6 much earlier than official US launch. No wireless charging, but Quad DAC onboard & 64gigs instead of 32 as bonus.
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there is video on youtube the reviewer bought a G6 from S. Korea and have T-Mob LTE working
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uomGiJ8EP3s seek to 14:10
numpea said:
there is video on youtube the reviewer bought a G6 from S. Korea and have T-Mob LTE working
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uomGiJ8EP3s seek to 14:10
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LTE (easy), not VoLTE (hard). Can you generally change firmware easily on LG devices? Also the vid doesnt confirm B12. Need LTE Discovery for that.
km8j said:
LTE (easy), not VoLTE (hard). Can you generally change firmware easily on LG devices?
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I know a method to enable volte in LG international models for any carrier ( needs root ). May be it will work for other models too.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/rooted-stock-based-rom-volte-fix-t3564924

US or international

What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
LoliSmith said:
The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
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Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
You have 1 choice as always with Verizon. You get the Verizon version like always.
How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
happy2472 said:
Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
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When was the last US Samung Galaxy device unlockable?
US because I'm sure the S8 will support the international U model firmware like the S7
kennonk said:
How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to get the Verizon model as Verizon is a CDMA network and the international model is GSM and won't work (it'd work on AT&T and T-Mobile as they are GSM networks). Even if it did work you'd have to consider what frequencies/bands the international model supports vs what your carrier uses (and it seems that's not been specified yet, at least not on GSMArena, unless all versions supports all the same frequencies/bands).
samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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Interesting only black and that feminine mauve colour (grey my ass).
I wonder where the silver and gold versions are being sold?
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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NM, I tried to do a fake purchase and wasn't able to get them to ship to US, only UK.
RMXO said:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphon...leMbCEOhBmuFF5g3q25kJViXEB_OCKvPx4F5TRnE4ljMO
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Do they ship to the US?
LoliSmith said:
Do they ship to the US?
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nope, my bad, i should of checked before posting.
So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
LoliSmith said:
So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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We already covered this in another thread no?
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
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Samsung pay wont work on International
johnwayne27 said:
Samsung pay wont work on International
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Yes true.
Good thing i dont use it...hell i dont even know if we have it in canada lol.
Sent from my Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
force70 said:
We already covered this in another thread no?
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No.
Listen everyone if you cant reply with a positive response or helpful then please dont reply at all.
I'd be careful
I am still looking into comparing the US Snapdragon variant of the Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs the International variant with the Exynos chip. I will say the Exynos chip usually works a lot better than the snapdragon on a samsung phone. Which makes sense since it is a Samsung chip. The real world speed tests for the Exynos and benchmark tests usually outdo the snapdragon.
With that said, frequency bands need to be compared. Because obviously the international variant will not work for Sprint or Verizon. Furthermore, there are LTE bands to worry about for T-Mobile and AT&T. And I can not seem to verify the bands for the international variant. From what I remember for the S7 International variant, there was no LTE band 12 which T-Mobile uses for their new LTE band. It didn't matter much before but now this band is being used for low-band spectrum which is for inside buildings and rural long distance connections. This band is expanding.
Therefore, I want to first see the real word speed tests (because snapdragon upped their game a bit) and confirm the frequency bands which seems to be harder than I thought. Frequencycheck seems to think the INternational variant has Band 12 but are they reliable this early?
Anyway, can anyone confirm the LTE bands for the International G955F variant? Maybe I need to search in German or French.

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