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Quadrant Benchmark on Vibrant 2600???

One of my coworkers has a tmobile vibrant with some lag fix according to him.. he did a quadrant benchmark right in front of me and it was showing 2500 plus everytime.. Im very curious as to what is making his phone so fast. And can it be dont to ours. Hes not running a custom rom or overclocking. Im only getting 1030 with mine clocked at 1.2ghz. Any Ideas? I couldnt get into too much details with him yesterday and I dont know whens the next time ill see him..

If you were to look at a test break down you would see generally all the scores are identical or the epic a little ahead except in the read/write area. The scores from their read/write are just inflating their overall score. It's a issue with quadrant and how it handles its overall score. Basically it just makes the system easy to abuse/cheat. So I wouldn't worry much about the difference in your score and his.
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The reason other Galaxy S phones score high in quadrant is because of the lag fix they use. The lag fix mounts a different file system on the phone with DRAMATICALLY increases read-write times. That portion of the quadrant benchmark gets inflated beyond reason. Using this game technique, Cyanogen was able to score more than 3000 on a snapdragon phone.
All of the Galaxy S phones have the same processor. Also, quadrant is a terrible benchmark. It's the most over-quoted and abused benchmark for android phones

Ahh ok.. thats good to know.. so what would be a better benchmark to use? Linpack?

jok3sta said:
Ahh ok.. thats good to know.. so what would be a better benchmark to use? Linpack?
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Linpack is good for measuring raw CPU processing power... but only on devices running the same version of android. Phones with 2.2 will score insanely high due to the JIT compiler. For example, a snapdragon phone with Froyo can score ~40 Mflops. A snapdragon phone with eclair scores around 7 Mflops. Does Froyo make the phone run 5-6X faster? Hell no. In some cases, the difference is almost unnoticeable to the human eye.
Here is a rundown of what I believe to be the pros and cons of various benchmarks:
Linpack
Pros:
- Good for measuring CPU processing power on the same version of Android
- Great tool for measuring the performance gain from overclocking
Cons
- Scores are boosted unreasonably by Froyo's JIT compiler on snapdragon phones
Quadrant
Pros:
- Great tool for measuring the performance gain from overclocking
- Decent tool for measuring 3D graphics performance (just pay attention to FPS, not the end result)
- Decent tool for measuring 2D graphics performance (again, look at FPS)
- The paid version ("Quadrant Pro" I believe) shows which parts of the benchmark contributed to the score. Easier to spot the inflated CPU or I/O inflation
Cons:
- I/O portion isn't valued as much as others, but can boost scores beyond reason via exploits, hacks, fixes, etc.
- CPU portion is inflated on phones running 2.2. A Nexus One is not faster than any Galaxy S, Droid X, Droid 2, etc.
Neocore
Pros:
- Good tool for measuring graphics processing power
Cons:
- Graphics are not intense enough to push the power of very fast GPU's. Some phones will hit their FPS limit
- Only measures graphics processing power.
Nenamark1
Pros:
- Great tool for measuring graphics processing power
- Effects are advanced enough to show the performance of faster GPUs in relation to phones with lesser GPUs.
Cons:
- Only measures graphics processing power.

Sweet thanks for all the info man..

Agreed, this is great info thanks. I think the quadrant score is the most quoted becuase it provides a very easy to read graph built in with it for instant comparing/gratification. I guess I am gonna start going by linpack and nenamark1.

hydralisk said:
Linpack is good for measuring raw CPU processing power... but only on devices running the same version of android. Phones with 2.2 will score insanely high due to the JIT compiler. For example, a snapdragon phone with Froyo can score ~40 Mflops. A snapdragon phone with eclair scores around 7 Mflops. Does Froyo make the phone run 5-6X faster? Hell no. In some cases, the difference is almost unnoticeable to the human eye.
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Linpack is ok for when your using same CPU comparison, different CPU's can cause issues...The reason why snapdragon gets scores of 5-6x is for some reason the snapdragon utilizes the VFP rather then using raw processing power..aka snapdragon cheats on the Linpack.
In reality our I/O scores should be a lot higher then it is as even in the Epic some of samsung's crappy file system still exists. But not as high as the lagfixed Vibrant of course.
Quadrant Pro is probably best indicator out of them all(The non-pro version is pretty much useless unless your comparing the same phone)...the con of having 2.2 show is higher is expected as it is a measure of efficiency of JIT in comparison to the current. The OS always played a role in Benchmarks so it is expected.

it can be faked by using a different partition to test on. IIRC the data partition making the speeds much faster than they should be so be careful when accepting those high scores

rjmjr69 said:
it can be faked by using a different partition to test on. IIRC the data partition making the speeds much faster than they should be so be careful when accepting those high scores
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It is not exactly faking it..as you are increasing performance..thing is you cannot see at what it performs well at unless you see the individual scores from the Pro version....

SG3 vs SG5

I made some test with my wifes phone - a galaxy 5 - and I was impressed with the performance. My wifes phone is totally stock (froyo), no root or deodex or other stuff but it has a Quadrant score of 520. My stock SG3 has a score of 321 and 607 with G3Mod and Kyrillos 8. So I did another test (Antutu) and checked the 2D and 3D performance. The stock SG5 has a 3D score of 450 while my SG3 only has 250. The RAM and CPU scores of the SG5 are lower than my scores. So I guess the reason for the high SG5 scores is the 3D grafics. But why is that? Is it because of the lower screen resolution, or the lower density, or the fewer colors, or ...? Maybe somebody can enlighten me.
Another issue. I put my old SD card in the SG5 and it has a reading speed of 9MB/s. When the card was in my phone I only had a reading speed of 4 MB/sec? Why is that?

The G3 has a CPU speed advantage (667MHz vs. 600Mhz) but the G5 has a lower-res screen (QVGA, vs. WQVGA) as an advantage....thats one of the main reason

To fix the reading speed of sdcard apply sdcardreadingspeedfix script
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@raja no that doesn't affect much
@op
G3 got a damn good processor (Samsung s5p6442) while g5 has a qualcomm
But g3 has a fimg gpu compared to the adreno200 in g5
And yea these scores are just scores, if we want we can even get 1000+, real life performance matters

ronnie735 said:
To fix the reading speed of sdcard apply sdcardreadingspeedfix script
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I tryed - doesn't do a thing for me
@cedeai: thanx

this sdcardreadingspeedfix script did'nt work for me too

my sister has a sg5, compared to our phone is really fast, and also plays games better, like angry birds, without overclocking, and their port of cm7 is amazing

how about your quadrant score when you use 2.3.x?

I installed CM7 with DSC Phoenix test2,overclock to 1344MHz.
when I bench with Quadrant Advanced ver2.1, my score is >1300 to 1400.
It's lower than my old milestone 1 (with CPU 600 MHz Cortex-A8 and GPU PowerVR SGX530, overclock to 1,1Ghz). quadrant score of milestone1 is > 1700. I dont know why?
And this morning I tested with HTC Incredible S of my friend (CPU 1 GHz Scorpion
and GPU Adreno 205, ICS rom without overclock). Score is > 1900.
Is my streak weak? I cant believe streak5 is slower than milestone1 and HTC Incredible S.
how about you?

I think many on here will agree with me when I say forget about the benchmark scores. They largely mean nothing as it relates to real world performance and you can drive yourself crazy trying to tweak your phone to death to increase the numbers. With that being said, the performance hit is likely in the file i/o section.

As normal user and not a programmer, I dont understand about the file i/o section. But thanks you, Lordmorphous. So I'll forget foolish scores, what a stupid app =))

File I/O = File input and output, which in simpler language is the act of reading and writing to the MicroSD cards.
Quadrant and other such benchmark tools are fun to run, but they don't mean much. To properly test a device requires a benchmark program like Futuremark's PCMark, which includes real-world applications and simulates real-world usage. There is no such benchmark app for Android however.

though, if you guys notice the benchmark for the quadrant advance 2.x, the i/o score for our DS5 does a bit low compared to others but... well you know, it just numbers... nothing more.. nothing less...
however, cpu power does have the impact when overclocked, for let say using default cpu speed of 1ghz, software decoding is a bit slow compared to overclocked 1.2ghz...
just my 2 cents

Verizon V20 Poor Performance

Hi there,
I recently bought a used v20 and found it to be really slow for a SD 820 device so today i ran Antutu and Geekbench and i'm getting like 73k in antutu and 1800 multicore in Geekbench.
That does not look right. Any suggestions?
I've searched around and no one else who thinks their phone is lagging did the benchmarks.

That doesn't sound right. Mine is running nice and smooth with no issues, did you purchase the phone from a carrier of 3rd party?

antutu average for this phone is around 130k i believe so your phone isnt working right

Your scores are really low.
I've just ran both tests and get the following results:
Antutu - 148346
Geekbench 4 - Multicore - 4061

Galaxy S20 Ultra isn't as FAST as YOU think IT IS!!!

Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
https://youtu.be/LfZUNL5hyVw

Scores on these things are useless, not worth watching the video
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Definitely don't waste your time on watching such a useless video with cheesy "royalty free" muzak.
My S20 Ultra feels as smooth as my iPad Pro 2018. Which is saying a LOT!

AVB0010 said:
Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
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Simply put you are comparing apple to oranges. The Huwaei phone does not have any Google services so not all things can be considered equal here.
Until the Huweai is a real Android phone with Google services than this comparison is null and void.
EDIT: Also, Huweai has been caught doing unscrupulous things before. So gaming the benchmark system would not at all surprise me.

S20 ultra results doesn't make sense to me. You can download an app called androbench to test the storage speed. This is my score from Exynos S20U 5G

I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...

Geekser said:
I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
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Snapdragon version right?

Aezhyr said:
Snapdragon version right?
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Yes.

Geekser said:
Yes.
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The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong

Snapdragon here, cold as ice.

Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz

Paul_Deemer said:
Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
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I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.

Aezhyr said:
I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
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Get the Snapdragon

Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.

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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I'm not saying I'm not happy, but I open the camera for 5 minutes and CPU goes to 65°C +, it's insane. The performance is great, but no "ultra" like the Snapdragon version
I love this phone, but it's like loving a Ferrari with a Fiat Punto engine! The design is amazing, the screen and etc. But I feel like I'm being ripped off by paying 10% more for a phone that's 10% worse.