Optimal SD 810 Performance - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What are your guys' methods to extract the best possible performance from the SD 810 in our Nexus 6p? I think everyone is aware that this chipset is prone to throttling extremely quickly for a mobile chip. I've experimented with massive underclocking both the big and little cores, changing governors, different kernels and other things. Unfortunately, I don't think it is possible to undervolt the 810. It's amazing that such a massive company like Qualcomm gave the go ahead to release a chip with such fundamental problems even if they were under pressure to release a 64 bit chip. Makes me think that they may value profits over their consumers experience.
So again I ask, what is your method of obtaining the best, no lag/stutter, performance out of our beloved Nexus 6p and it's infamous Snapdragon 810?

I did the hard thermal mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-improve-cooling-greatly-reduce-t3323898
And use the thermal soft mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
Even then, it will throttle during heavy gaming but nothing like before. It's rare I play long enough that it starts shutting down cores. Usually a half hour at a time. For my purposes it has all but eliminated thermal induced lag. Definitely shouldn't have to go through all that though lol.

To be honest things run great for me. It was the best they had to offer this past year. I'm not complaining. Best phone I've ever owned that's for sure
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hawkswind1 said:
I did the hard thermal mod here:
And use the thermal soft mod here:
Even then, it will throttle during heavy gaming but nothing like before. It's rare I play long enough that it starts shutting down cores. Usually a half hour at a time. For my purposes it has all but eliminated thermal induced lag. Definitely shouldn't have to go through all that though lol.
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I think you may have forgotten to include the mod links in your post. If they provide the improvements that you described, I'll definitely be trying them out.

michaelearth said:
I think you may have forgotten to include the mod links in your post. If they provide the improvements that you described, I'll definitely be trying them out.
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I think you will change your mind when you see the hard mod :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-improve-cooling-greatly-reduce-t3323898

This is the best phone ever created. There are absolutely no issues with the 810 because I've never personally had any. That means the issues don't exist. Don't ever talk bad about this phone because I spent my hard earned money on it so it's automatically the best. Just positive posts please.

michaelearth said:
I think you may have forgotten to include the mod links in your post. If they provide the improvements that you described, I'll definitely be trying them out.
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Not sure why the links disappeared, but I added them back.

Im interested in getting the 810 to perform better. I had a snap dragon 610 phone that performed well and had battery life that would last all day. Is there a way to underclock the 810 down to how the 610 soc would run.

hawkswind1 said:
And use the thermal soft mod here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/cttmod-mm-t3386953
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I installed this mod several days ago and have noticed significant improvements regarding thermal throttling. The 810 still throttles but it helps delay it by a noticeable amount of time. Definitely recommend to anyone looking to improve performance.
Also, the dev is actively working to improve the mod so it can only get better from here on out.

shawn1482 said:
Im interested in getting the 810 to perform better. I had a snap dragon 610 phone that performed well and had battery life that would last all day. Is there a way to underclock the 810 down to how the 610 soc would run.
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Different soc, different architecture, im afraid not possible

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Does the thermal throttling really affects daily usage?

Hi guys, how are you?
I'm currently planning on getting this device and after reading some reviews and threads in this forum I'm aware of the thermal throttling that the Nexus 4 shows when under high usage or benchmarks.
I live in Brazil and I'd like to know better if this issue really affects daily usage, like long gaming periods, or we only notice that when benchmarking the device.
Do you consider buying this smartphone a good deal? The price around here is actually very good.
Thanks in advance.
I really don't think it's a big deal. If thermal throttling is a big deal to you, you can switch to a custom kernel that allows you to change it.
And yes, this phone is a great deal and still a highly recommended purchase.
Long gaming you will notice it when it throttles for sure.
Whether you want to deal with it or mod it is another story. But on stock with long intensive gaming you will notice and it will annoy you.
It will not matter for apps, but games will suffer from drop in frame rates, but they'll still be playable. I get 25-30fps for Asphalt 8 with this device (stock), but it's a very demanding game. I really haven't had a bad experience.
If you know how to install custom kernel you can raise the throttling temperature or overclock the GPU.
You might want to wait and get the Nexus 5 if you want better gaming performance.
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korockinout13 said:
I really don't think it's a big deal. If thermal throttling is a big deal to you, you can switch to a custom kernel that allows you to change it.
And yes, this phone is a great deal and still a highly recommended purchase.
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albundy2010 said:
Long gaming you will notice it when it throttles for sure.
Whether you want to deal with it or mod it is another story. But on stock with long intensive gaming you will notice and it will annoy you.
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eksasol said:
It will not matter for apps, but games will suffer from drop in frame rates, but they'll still be playable. I get 25-30fps for Asphalt 8 with this device (stock), but it's a very demanding game. I really haven't had a bad experience.
If you know how to install custom kernel you can raise the throttling temperature or overclock the GPU.
You might want to wait and get the Nexus 5 if you want better gaming performance.
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Guys, thanks a lot for all the information and help!
I'm still deciding my next device and surely your cooperation will support my decisions!
Thanks again!

The truth about SnapDragon 810 and M9 overheating results

Blatant admission from HTC employee:
Well, let me reply to a joke by some inside info.
The phone isn't really getting hot. We tried to manipulate the benchmark results by removing the thermal limits when these are running. Others would maybe consider it cheating, but we really just trying to show what this Snapdragon 810 is capable of. That kind of backfired.
We removed the benchmark exception in the final software, so it should not overheat. We also improved some of the algorithms in the camera software in the final software.
I may not be allowed to say this, but I couldn't stand to watch you make all these jokes. The phone doesn't overheat at all without benchmarks. You shouldn't have to wait too long for other reviews than the Dutch one. The embargo should lift on Sunday afternoon (Pacific time)
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http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2zquqo/htc_one_m9_already_on_sale_in_dubai/
Does this mean everything else except overheating numbers from tweakers.net is accurate? All that they did was remove the throttling exception according to him. No kernel optimizations like people were hoping for.
It could certainly explain the drop in single-core and multi-core performance on geekbench.
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Are you concerned about the phone using the S810?

Share your thoughts, are you concerned about this "new version" S810 V2.1 and any overheating issues?
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seems none of the phones with SD810 has a satisfactory performance, let alone z3+'s dreadful nightmare..
I feel this will repeat Sony's terror with the Z3+. They felt they "fixed" the problem as well but fell flat on their face.
The only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope is that with the little(big?) bits of bad press about CS and build quality they really WILL try to make this phone different because otherwise their company may be dead in the water, especially since the 1+2 will be at a higher pricepoint than their consumer base is used to. Any failure on their part will be cannibalised by everyone.
Lets hope that Oneplus has right about praising the new revision of 810 . But I am not afraid because there will be hopefully a lot of kernel builders who can also work on possible issues
They're underclocking it a tiny bit and it sounds like they're using a magnesium frame with graphite thermal interface.
Too early to worry about SD810 issues until a sample tested.
I'll be waiting for reviews. Apparently the Z3+ uses the 2.1 revision too so that doesn't give me much hope, but OnePlus's may or may not tame the beast.
KiraYahiroz said:
I'll be waiting for reviews. Apparently the Z3+ uses the 2.1 revision too so that doesn't give me much hope, but OnePlus's may or may not tame the beast.
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Xiaomi Note Pro also ran 2.1 and had patents for a "specialized" thermal system especially designed for Snapdragon 810 2.1 -- which fell flat on its face. Runaway thermals.
komugi said:
Xiaomi Note Pro also ran 2.1 and had patents for a "specialized" thermal system especially designed for Snapdragon 810 2.1 -- which fell flat on its face. Runaway thermals.
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Ouch!! I really hoped that the 1+2's solution (magnesium frame functioning like an additional radiator) was nowhere else to be found...
Well... then I am a lil bit worried and will wait for the first reviews before buying one (I've heard we need AGAIN to jump through hoops and will still need to beg for invites ? )
I'm very worried, if a huge corp like Xiaomi can't get it right, how is a small team like OnePlus going to?
feygor said:
I'm very worried, if a huge corp like Xiaomi can't get it right, how is a small team like OnePlus going to?
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They wont't. Just like they never fixed yellow bending on 1+1, or touchscreen issues.
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I never had any touchscreen issues, and my yellowing disappeared after a couple of days. I was just disappointed by the washed out low brightness screen and the really bad camera
feygor said:
I never had any touchscreen issues, and my yellowing disappeared after a couple of days. I was just disappointed by the washed out low brightness screen and the really bad camera
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Probably because you root it and flash custom roms.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ItrVTqKO7k&feature=youtu.be
Very informative video about 810
KiraYahiroz said:
I'll be waiting for reviews. Apparently the Z3+ uses the 2.1 revision too so that doesn't give me much hope, but OnePlus's may or may not tame the beast.
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Both revisions are the same ...
AFAIK, they only merge/*add small changes on software level.
The main thing that , 1+ can/will/ or did, is adjust the CPU throttling and maybe add better heat sink(s).
cheers
superdragonpt said:
Both revisions are the same ...
AFAIK, they only merge/*add small changes on software level.
The main thing that , 1+ can/will/ or did, is adjust the CPU throttling and maybe add better heat sink(s).
cheers
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Wrong, there are some hardware changes from v2 and v2.1: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapdragon-810-v2-and-v21
The most significant changes is memory bandwidth within the cache of the SoC, which should feed the CPU and GPU better.
komugi said:
Xiaomi Note Pro also ran 2.1 and had patents for a "specialized" thermal system especially designed for Snapdragon 810 2.1 -- which fell flat on its face. Runaway thermals.
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HTC M9 solved it. They have better thermals than LG G4. See notebookcheck.net reviews for both devices. Not optimal but still maintains better performance than S808.
KiraYahiroz said:
Wrong, there are some hardware changes from v2 and v2.1: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9388/comparing-snapdragon-810-v2-and-v21
The most significant changes is memory bandwidth within the cache of the SoC, which should feed the CPU and GPU better.
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Hi
Sorry for the late reply.
No. your wrong, it's all on SW level.
Time will (hopefully) confirm it.
Adjusting throttling, and hotplug / arm SoC policies, has nothing to do with Hardware.
In the mean time, one of my co-workers, got one for reviewing purposes .
USB: Is so damm slow, the type C is just for marketing purposes, it's still cap at 2.x
Front camera: Just...bad
Cpu scalling: slow and not very well optimized
And some other issues concerning this device, i know the software can (will ? ) be improved, but for my standards the device is bad.
I quit this one. And will be giving away my invite.
Cheers
puremind said:
HTC M9 solved it. They have better thermals than LG G4. See notebookcheck.net reviews for both devices. Not optimal but still maintains better performance than S808.
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I can confirm this. I got an M9 yesterday to replace my S6. I know it sounds weird, but I think of it as an upgrade. The S6 was fast on paper but painfully slow at times during normal usage. App launch time was great, but UI lagginess, awful design and general unresponsiveness lead me to opt for the M9, especially after reading great reports about the latest SW updates.
The 810 in the M9 is cooler than the S6, I can guarantee you. Any semi-intense app on the S6 made the CPU jump to absurd temperatures (80+ degrees C) and the device got extremely hot on the metal frame.
The M9 gets evenly warmish, and CPU management is spot on as it never goes full throttle when doing basic tasks like browsing (unlike some other phones).
To sum it up, I wouldn't worry too much about the S810, it seems to run just fine on the M9.

Is it worth buying a G3 in 09/2016 ?

Hi,
I'm on a budget and was thinking of buying a used LG G3 (16GB ROM 2GB RAM version) but I don't know if it is worth it.
I know for sure performance would be better than my actual phone (Zenfone 5) but I've read about the overheating problem.
Is it real, even after MM update?
Is there any other bug or issue? For 140 euro, is it a best buy?
How is compared to HTC M8 (metal body, sense UI and, it seems, faster)?
And for what concerns custom ROMs?
Thanks in advance
if you are on a budget yes, it has a good battery and charging time, also u can upgrade to MM rom there are alot of fast&smooth roms out there, i use Resurrection remix 6.0.1 ,5.3.7 for my self it's a good phone if you are getting it as New.
i did not try the M8, but as i heard from MKBHD on youtube the M8 got a really bad camera and some issues
I have no idea how much other phones are in your country but for that much money id rather go for something else and expand my budget by a bit to get a brandnew phone. In my country id probably get a brandnew xiaomi redmi note 3 pro. It would be around 190 euros converted to your currency. Its a snapdragon 650 with a large battery and a fingerprint sensor. Not bad for 50 more. But i dont know if options like this are available in your country.
Custom rom support is great and it looks like it will be supported well for quite a while. Its what keeping the device alive for me. It heats up just like any other sd 801 phone. Heat and performance will depend on how you'll handle the thermal settings. No bugs or whatsoever to worry about on stock rom. Battery life sucks for me though. Only 2.5 to 3h SOT for me.
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I have no idea how much other phones are in your country but for that much money id rather go for something else and expand my budget by a bit to get a brandnew phone. In my country id probably get a brandnew xiaomi redmi note 3 pro. It would be around 190 euros converted to your currency. Its a snapdragon 650 with a large battery and a fingerprint sensor. Not bad for 50 more. But i dont know if options like this are available in your country.
Custom rom support is great and it looks like it will be supported well for quite a while. Its what keeping the device alive for me. It heats up just like any other sd 801 phone. Heat and performance will depend on how you'll handle the thermal settings. No bugs or whatsoever to worry about on stock rom. Battery life sucks for me though. Only 2.5 to 3h SOT for me.
No. Dont waste your money for this poor battery G3. This phone is starting "out of date" period.
With 140 euro, I can buy G4 in my country.
I think you just buy a new phone.
But in my opinion, this time is not best time to buy a new phone, unless you take samsung 7 . I prefer new 14 nm SoC with android N.
Seriously, when compare to my Nexus 5 the G3 perform very bad due to over heat, I can see every game slow down and fps drop a long when compare to the Nexus 5, I think the problem is the G3 screen way too hot. but if you not gaming then G3/G4 will be a good choice, just remember to get a new battery.
p.s. The G3 v30 firmware also broken some IP cam app, which I didn't have problem with the Nexus and old G3 firmware, may be the v30 had missing some codec.
Over heating can be solved with the thermal pad mod (easy to do)
Like the other person said, make sure your battery is new and you'll be ok.
They're right though, G3 is a great phone however other choices are now available if you're able to save even 50-100 more and you'll extend things like software updates w/o root etc
tiguy99 said:
Over heating can be solved with the thermal pad mod (easy to do)
Like the other person said, make sure your battery is new and you'll be ok.
They're right though, G3 is a great phone however other choices are now available if you're able to save even 50-100 more and you'll extend things like software updates w/o root etc
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I had try the mod, but it just made things worse. Before I do the mod I can use a AR app (which keeps using camera) without problem, after the mod the G3 will just shutdown due to overheat with 30 seconds. Undo the mod and I can use the AR app without problem again.
I think it is by design to have a gap between the metal plate and the CPU, one more thing is when I had the mod the upper area of the screen is way too hot. I don't think LG is too stupid not to that metal plate as a heatsink for the cpu, if it really works.
DummyPLUG said:
I had try the mod, but it just made things worse. Before I do the mod I can use a AR app (which keeps using camera) without problem, after the mod the G3 will just shutdown due to overheat with 30 seconds. Undo the mod and I can use the AR app without problem again.
I think it is by design to have a gap between the metal plate and the CPU, one more thing is when I had the mod the upper area of the screen is way too hot. I don't think LG is too stupid not to that metal plate as a heatsink for the cpu, if it really works.
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Not sure how you did your mod but I've got at least 2 threads showing nothing but happy end users and great results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/applying-thermal-paste-lg-g3-t3273161
The mod works.
I used fujipoly 0.5mm thermal pad (the best one on the market).
Dropped my temps, increased performance & made phone cool to the touch
See below for my antutu score on stock MM non root
For the G3 it's a must especially if you end up with one of the unlucky overheating G3s
tiguy99 said:
Over heating can be solved with the thermal pad mod (easy to do)
Like the other person said, make sure your battery is new and you'll be ok.
They're right though, G3 is a great phone however other choices are now available if you're able to save even 50-100 more and you'll extend things like software updates w/o root etc
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tiguy99 said:
Not sure how you did your mod but I've got at least 2 threads showing nothing but happy end users and great results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/applying-thermal-paste-lg-g3-t3273161
The mod works.
I used fujipoly 0.5mm thermal pad (the best one on the market).
Dropped my temps, increased performance & made phone cool to the touch
See below for my antutu score on stock MM non root
For the G3 it's a must especially if you end up with one of the unlucky overheating G3s
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That's why I try the mod. I think the different is I always have brightness between 50%-90%. The mod is success as I can feel the cpu heat transfer to the screen meanwhile the back of the phone don't heat up, may be the mod is too good so heat up the screen too much, or the screen heat up the cpu then cause overheat, anyway, I had try 5 times, using different thermal paste with some spacer, thermal pad, the better the material, the faster it overheat.May be I am just the unlucky one.
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This is the app make it over heat if I apply the mod, other app don't have this problem, include pokemon in AR mod
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kddi.ar.satch.satchviewer&hl=en
The app need to scan for specific thing, such as a book, a photo, in order to start playing AR
Never heard of that app before.
My phone never had any issues after the mod.
Done everything from gaming which became smoother, videos and general web browsing etc.
Even after multiple benchmarks which stress the cpu the most that happened was the back was slightly warm but never hot.
Idle around 35c
Normal use around 40-45c
Hottest was 55-60c
Vs before
Idle 45c
Normal use 55-65c
Hottest 80c
I fixed overheating by unistalling "McAfee Security" and Facebook app. Not saying it would work for everyone but i'm not throttling anymore
If there's heat, wouldn't it be a good idea to under clock/undervolt to see if it'll do anything? Other than that, the G3 or the moto g4 may have to be a choice as I am also on a budget. And a contract in my scenario (although I can maybe TRY to go off contract) is the only way.
tiguy99 said:
Not sure how you did your mod but I've got at least 2 threads showing nothing but happy end users and great results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/applying-thermal-paste-lg-g3-t3273161
The mod works.
I used fujipoly 0.5mm thermal pad (the best one on the market).
Dropped my temps, increased performance & made phone cool to the touch
See below for my antutu score on stock MM non root
For the G3 it's a must especially if you end up with one of the unlucky overheating G3s
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Link to buy? This is cool!
here you go
zeeBomb said:
If there's heat, wouldn't it be a good idea to under clock/undervolt to see if it'll do anything? Other than that, the G3 or the moto g4 may have to be a choice as I am also on a budget. And a contract in my scenario (although I can maybe TRY to go off contract) is the only way.
Link to buy? This is cool!
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here you go
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How do you install this exactly? Just apply on the SoC?
zeeBomb said:
How do you install this exactly? Just apply on the SoC?
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Yes
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752/page30

OnePlus 8T & 8T Pro

What? I bought my OP 8 Pro a week ago, now there's a better version on the way.
Okay, I LOST.
Any true leaks?
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/oneplus-8t
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Oh forgot to tell you oh, it's an electronic Gizmo, it's dated as soon as you walk out of the store with it
Lol
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TheLegend975 said:
What? I bought my OP 8 Pro a week ago, now there's a better version on the way.
Okay, I LOST.
Any true leaks?
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They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.
dladz said:
They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.
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..and I highly doubt that display issues are fixed either
pyry666 said:
..and I highly doubt that display issues are fixed either
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I'm pretty confident it'll be the exact same screen..
Personally haven't got a problem with mine even before they lowered the max brightness.
There will be something to pull us end users towards it..doubt it'll be a hole punch again, won't be the same place if not.
I dunno.
FernBch said:
Oh forgot to tell you oh, it's an electronic Gizmo, it's dated as soon as you walk out of the store with it
Lol
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dladz said:
They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.
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Perhaps the chip is the only difference, 865 plus.
But yeah, I'm satisfied with the 8pro, the T version is gonna cost a lot apparently.
Wrote this in the other thread, got closed so gets my two cents on the 8T or what I'd expect
The difference will be small incremental changes / updates, the 8 is already a pretty much perfect phone, I cannot fault it; maybe the battery if anything.
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Screen will remain the same
Size will remain the same
Speakers will remain the same
Battery may / should get a bump
RAM will remain the same
Storage will remain the same
Connectivity will remain the same
Photochrom will be dropped entirely
Buffs / changes
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Price will see a bump
Charging speed will get a bump
Camera bump from 48 - 64MP
Front camera may get moved to centre or an additional one added, won't be a pop up.
CPU / GPU will be the + variant, honestly at this point it matters a lot less than it would have a few years back, the 865 standard is so powerful the bump to the + may be negligible unless they retain performance and really work on the stamina but I can't see it
Design of the phone may change slightly
New camera lens will take place of photochrom, perhaps fish eye or similar, is 3D still a thing.
On a personal note, I wouldn't get the 8T as I already have the 8, for you I would say; if the battery doesn't get a major bump then I'd go with the 8.
Plus the price will drop when the 8T is near it's launch or even announcement making it the obvious choice.
Then again, that's my opinion, it's up to you.
Also all the rumours at this point are just rumours, if you want a good idea of what the device will be like, look out for the next oppo flagship as it's usually a strong indicator of what will be next for OnePlus.
OnePlus bring a phone out every 6 months, however for the first time there is literally nothing that the CPU / GPU cannot run perfectly, there is no need for more speed now, strange territory, will be interesting to see if they keep buffing the performance or work on efficiency, the latter would be the logical choice but I guess time will tell.
dladz said:
Wrote this in the other thread, got closed so gets my two cents on the 8T or what I'd expect
The difference will be small incremental changes / updates, the 8 is already a pretty much perfect phone, I cannot fault it; maybe the battery if anything.
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Screen will remain the same
Size will remain the same
Speakers will remain the same
Battery may / should get a bump
RAM will remain the same
Storage will remain the same
Connectivity will remain the same
Photochrom will be dropped entirely
Buffs / changes
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Price will see a bump
Charging speed will get a bump
Camera bump from 48 - 64MP
Front camera may get moved to centre or an additional one added, won't be a pop up.
CPU / GPU will be the + variant, honestly at this point it matters a lot less than it would have a few years back, the 865 standard is so powerful the bump to the + may be negligible unless they retain performance and really work on the stamina but I can't see it
Design of the phone may change slightly
New camera lens will take place of photochrom, perhaps fish eye or similar, is 3D still a thing.
On a personal note, I wouldn't get the 8T as I already have the 8, for you I would say; if the battery doesn't get a major bump then I'd go with the 8.
Plus the price will drop when the 8T is near it's launch or even announcement making it the obvious choice.
Then again, that's my opinion, it's up to you.
Also all the rumours at this point are just rumours, if you want a good idea of what the device will be like, look out for the next oppo flagship as it's usually a strong indicator of what will be next for OnePlus.
OnePlus bring a phone out every 6 months, however for the first time there is literally nothing that the CPU / GPU cannot run perfectly, there is no need for more speed now, strange territory, will be interesting to see if they keep buffing the performance or work on efficiency, the latter would be the logical choice but I guess time will tell.
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You convinced me ?
I won't upgrade my phone for probably 2-3 years if not even more but I was curious xD
Thanks
TheLegend975 said:
You convinced me
I won't upgrade my phone for probably 2-3 years if not even more but I was curious xD
Thanks
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hahaha, sorry man.
for me finding the sweet spot is a challenge, tbh the Oneplus 8 Pro ticks so many boxes it's an absolute first in my experience, it's just the battery i'd buff if i could.
But lol each to their own
dladz said:
hahaha, sorry man.
for me finding the sweet spot is a challenge, tbh the Oneplus 8 Pro ticks so many boxes it's an absolute first in my experience, it's just the battery i'd buff if i could.
But lol each to their own
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Indeed brother, I also loved the 8pro it's amazing but yeah the battery isn't bad but not the best, I easily get 7h SOT with a good usage and QHD + 120Hz.
The latest update (10.5.13) is good and made the phone sightly smoother so there's still hope for future battery and performance updates xD
TheLegend975 said:
Indeed brother, I also loved the 8pro it's amazing but yeah the battery isn't bad but not the best, I easily get 7h SOT with a good usage and QHD + 120Hz.
The latest update (10.5.13) is good and made the phone sightly smoother so there's still hope for future battery and performance updates xD
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I'm just about to unlock and root, this is the longest I've been without unlocking a phone.
Strangely I managed 9 hours yesterday and I wasn't trying so if I'm debloating and or lightening the load can help then I'll be happy with that, plus future updates.
dladz said:
I'm just about to unlock and root, this is the longest I've been without unlocking a phone.
Strangely I managed 9 hours yesterday and I wasn't trying so if I'm debloating and or lightening the load can help then I'll be happy with that, plus future updates.
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Nice, I always say stock is better but just can't satisfy myself being unrooted ?
I'm rooted and using a custom kernel and getting 7h SOT max with a normal usage. I feel like I could get better with stock but simply want to use a couple of things that require root.
When you root and use a kernel that you think is good, please tell me in PM, I appreciate it, thanks.
TheLegend975 said:
Nice, I always say stock is better but just can't satisfy myself being unrooted ?
I'm rooted and using a custom kernel and getting 7h SOT max with a normal usage. I feel like I could get better with stock but simply want to use a couple of things that require root.
When you root and use a kernel that you think is good, please tell me in PM, I appreciate it, thanks.
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I'll always stick with stick kernel, least for now.
Currently testing xXx which is just as I remember it.
Quite impressed that so much can be achieved via a Magisk module Vs a ROM.
If I do jump on kernels I'll give up your a shout how I get on
dladz said:
I'll always stick with stick kernel, least for now.
Currently testing xXx which is just as I remember it.
Quite impressed that so much can be achieved via a Magisk module Vs a ROM.
If I do jump on kernels I'll give up your a shout how I get on
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Thanks brother ?

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