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Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP

I think the exynos is the best in it's class, always has been.

VR.gtmini said:
Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...vs-samsung-exynos-tablet-processor-benchmarks
or
http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&scli...pw.r_qf.&fp=cbd186cbbddc8760&biw=1366&bih=673

The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.

johnchad14 said:
The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.
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This and the Exynos comes with a better DAC.
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Few months to go nd it will be s4 pro quad core vs exyones 5250 dual core
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I have an AT&T Note with the Qualcom hardware and an N7000 note with the Exynos hardware. To get the performance I want (no lag and good battery life), I had to root the Qualcom model and use custom ROMs. The unrooted N7000 international version runs with little lag and better battery life. It also has the hardware for FM Radio which I use all the time but no AT&T band 17 LTE.
I sincerely, hope that the AT&T Note II will have the Exynos Quad Core stuff from Samsung rather than the Qualcom hardware. You can perform all the benchmarks you want. They don't really mean that much. It's the total user experience that counts. Exynos delivers. If you want best benchmarks, buy one of the new HTC products. You'll be back to Samsung in no time.
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It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276

It looks like from a development standpoint, Qualcomms Snapdragon SoC is the better choice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31873214&postcount=7773

Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.

mi7chy said:
Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.
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And the most compatibility and assortment of games come from imagination technologies gpus. I want me some rogue already.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

iahk said:
It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276
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I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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rambo6 said:
I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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It's one thing to remove an app its another to swap an entire cpu architecture. The only reason the cpu difference was there for the gs3 was due to wireless incompatibility issues. Now that the chips support our lte infrastructure, we will see identical hardware sans maybe body color as the international version.
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I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)

Man, i wish the oem's would get on the ics/jb train already. Finding a great phone with the software navigation buttons is tricky. Sony and asus are on board, but sony has a couple shortcomings with battery life and phone design and asus needs to release official specs on padfone 2 to seriously consider. Samsung needs to ditch the physical button already. I think they have made enough noise and made some appler's turn their heads for a second. Samsung drop the button and get with the aosp program already! Damn koreans.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

Man when would this Samsung, te4(exyones5250) device release I want to see it perform
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Entropy512 said:
I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)
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I do agree with this. It's much easier to hack and modify the Qualcom hardware. I'm running Flapjaxx's A0SP JB on my AT&T Note. It's awesome, however, I love Samsung's S-Pen and S-Planner software. I use my N7000 primarily for work with the latest stock ROM. I performs extremely well. I uswe the AT&T Note for goofing around. I wish I could put the S-Planner and S-Pen apps on an AOSP JB rom. Because the Note is so big, I like using the N7000 button on front to turn it on.
There's no doubt the Qualcom hardware has some advantages. However, for running a stock samsung ROM, the Exynos is hard to beat.
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Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ

morning thunder said:
Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ
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Gpu sux on dual core s4
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Despite being 32nm Vs 28nm in my experience the Exynos quad has better battery life than the S4 dual core. I own an AT&T S3 and an Exynos one, and with identical use the international one runs cooler and gets 30+ minutes more screen-on time. Both of those things will likely come down to the High-potassium metal gate technology in the Exynos - less voltage leakage=more battery, less dispersal of leakage as heat.

POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?

I would like to know whether you guys will prefer either snapdragon 600 or exynos powered samsung galaxy s4, what it'll do is making it easy for us to understand which one will have more development support, so i'll and many others will buy that one. Thanks
EDIT: Here is Exynos's Benchmark results and comparison with Snapdragon 600 powered S4 and other devices:
Octa-core Galaxy S4 benchmarks surface, live up to expectations

hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like and i prefer touch wiz to cm, it is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.

You wont find it in store here in the u.s. I prefer exynos chip too but im not getting it due to cost and no lte. Going to renew my contract and get s600 around release. Hoping to find some good deal offerings

I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version

porkaysi said:
hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like cm, touch wiz is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.
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I am glad to find that people prefers Exynos more then Snapdragon 600, obviously because it's battery efficient faster, but i guess many of them have to import it, even i guess you also have to import Exynos one from Asia or other region, because i saw Samsung has shortage of Exynos, so 70% will get Snapdragon 600, but in my country there will be only i9500,

bedi.gursimran said:
I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version
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Yeah this is bit of setback, i wish Samsung must provide LTE Capable phone for everyone, it's not there headache whether a particular country supports it or not, can't really understand these manufacturers logic these days..my main concern is only if we get very fewer number of i9500, then of course development for them will be very minimal, and in my country we'll only get i9500

As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.

kataria.vikesh said:
As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.
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Well i don't think it's related to Q/A Answer section, i feel it should be in General, just like every other similar POLLS on xda.

if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.

bala_gamer said:
if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.
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This is the reason why i guess people are looking more towards Exynos, i.e. longer battery life, your ideas are really helping me here, my first Exynos device this S4 will be i am searching for some leak to know which 70% countries are getting SD600/i9505, i wish Asia will not

R: POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?
In Italy I will choose I9500 version (I don't care about LTE because here it's very expensive and not widespread)
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E5O by miles.
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I'll be purchasing 19500
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I9500 because well, I don't have any other choice. There's no 4G network either in my country.

IF I buy one: I9505.
Exynos makes me mad, I'm developing AOSP ROMs.

Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.

I9500 as I already have htc one with SD600 not that there is anything wrong with SD600 also I dont use 4G so don't need a 4G capable phone.

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Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.

bala_gamer said:
no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.
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Don't forget, devices which doesn't get official CM Support still gets unofficial cm ports, like Desire Z etc, we may get unofficial ports, or even cm support lately for Exynos based devices, for example note 3 etc...

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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It's actually only one member of the team who said that the others came out and said 1 member doesn't speak for the team and that as for every other phone they will never announce supporting or not supporting until a device is actually launched
S4 INFO

[Q] Exynos / SD600 choice within the UK?

Hi guys,
I'm afraid people will consider this a re-hash of existing threads however I haven't seen one specific to the UK and have a few questions to ask.
I currently have an i9305 but when I previously owned an i9300 I noticed that development was done more Europe than America due to your differences in handsets due to carriers.
Are there going to be differences between the i9500 and the i9505 in terms of dev support towards the UK?
As in, the i9505 will most probably have more developer support as Snapdragon source code is available (?) and so an actual stable ROM could be released, and also LTE is very popular now.
But would the developers in the U.S create ROMS that would work on the UK varient?
The reason I ask is because I love the SG3 but have grown disgusted by TouchWiz now and I don't care for the gimmicky TW features in the S4, I just like the horsepower it's packing bundled with that display and battery. CM10.1 on my SG3 has alleviated my disgust for TW which was held at bay through Nova launcher but inevitably got more and more irritating.
I was thinking to wait for the new Nexus, but that could be a while and could be underwhelming, and since they tend to be a lot cheaper I figure if it does come out and is amazing then I could probably sell the SG4 and have money left over after buying the new Nexus.
Also, on a side-note, is anyone in the UK planning on importing an Exynos varient? To me the lack of dev support and LTE for -slightly- better noticeable performance and potentially slightly better battery life isn't enough to justify it.
Cheers

There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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skibadee said:
There is a thread for UK
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191766
Official Ireland/UK Galaxy S4 Thread
But to answer your query. The UK is getting the same i9505 as the US. This time most of western Europe is not getting the Exynos (i9500). Asia and Eastern Europe seem to be getting it this time. Which is annoying as I want the Exynos version personally.
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Ok that's cool, to be honest I am happy enough with my S3 I could wait for an Exynos LTE release since I am buying SIM-free anyway, but again for me developer support is really important so I think I'm better off with the Snapdragon varient, and let's be honest, the specs are still amazing.

Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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Why you buy 4 cores when you haw 8 cores??
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Fu5ion said:
Let's be honest here. What could you possibly be doing on your phone that would require 8 cores? Even four is probably over kill haha. My computer is 4 cores and it compiles ROMs just fine. What could I possibly need with an 8 core device? I feel like sometimes people get too wrapped up with having MOAR CORES without really thinking about why they could possible have a use for 8 cores on a cell phone.
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duh, audio chip beats the bottom of 4 core

First 70% release of S4 will be Snapdragon version,so all Europe will have Snapdragon and the devs will support it more for this and because of the open source.Also every developer who work with Exynos sick of it and i don't think he will prefer it again easly.So if you need suport go with the Snapdragon version,and yes the specs is still amazing!

A new member in the Galaxy s4 family(i9506)

Snapdragon 800-powered Galaxy S4 for international markets may have just leaked as the Samsung GT-i9506 http://drippler.com/updates/share/s...ional-markets-may-have-just-leaked-samsung-gt Via j.mp/getDrippler
how many are we getting?
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Did they releasing new version once a week? There's already many variants for this devices. Lets say, E300S, E300K, E300L, E330S, i9500, i9505, S4 mini, S4 active, S4 camera and now i9506 with better snapdragon 800? Hell. Yeah. Sammy.
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hotheabilly said:
Did they releasing new version once a week? There's already many variants for this devices. Lets say, E300S, E300K, E300L, E330S, i9500, i9505, S4 mini, S4 active, S4 camera and now i9506 with better snapdragon 800? Hell. Yeah. Sammy.
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theyre pushing the boundaries already, they must have known that the snapdragon 800 was going to be released soon when they released the s4
they could have waited instead of releasing a hundred variants
now early adopters are stuck with slower, more expensive versions of the same device(kinda since you can always buy the new one but its still a double expense)
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Welcome to life. Tech advances faster than our wallets fill up.
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Yap thats not practical. Just, why samsung? Are you too greedy? Why so many version? If the S4 comes with just one variant and that is packed with snapdragon 800 and adreno 330, even for international version, that would be great.
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hotheabilly said:
Yap thats not practical. Just, why samsung? Are you too greedy? Why so many version? If the S4 comes with just one variant and that is packed with snapdragon 800 and adreno 330, even for international version, that would be great.
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Exactly, it even would have been easier to sell millions of them without having to bother with extra hardware(failed octa, snapdragon 600), less expense=more money samsung should know this
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negrobembon said:
Exactly, it even would have been easier to sell millions of them without having to bother with extra hardware(failed octa, snapdragon 600), less expense=more money samsung should know this
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Yup, these are pain in the ass, sh*tty strategy from samsung marketing planner. 4+4 exynos, snap600, snap800, and when tegra 4 is released then S4 i9510 will available too? Lol
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Every Company wants to fill their own pocket ...not costomer's...
So never think any company tour own...
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Especially Samsung
Its great news for some...who didnt buy s4...and sorrow for other who already bought s4...and Samsung will give reason that we have exchange scheme so trade s4 with new s4
So never dependant or fanboy of any company or device

ipsuvedi said:
Every Company wants to fill their own pocket ...not costomer's...
So never think any company tour own...
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Especially Samsung
Its great news for some...who didnt buy s4...and sorrow for other who already bought s4...and Samsung will give reason that we have exchange scheme so trade s4 with new s4
So never dependant or fanboy of any company or device
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Not fanboy or anything, just feel cheated
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Same feelings. I feel cheated.. I showed my support to Samsung.. Purchased SGS4 I9500 on the very first day despite of thinking about expensive price.. And later they came up with all those variants..
Neither they are releasing documentation for Exynos nor doing tremendous work in fixing bugs we are facing.. I would say, I will never ever go with Samsung again..

Rahulrulez said:
Same feelings. I feel cheated.. I showed my support to Samsung.. Purchased SGS4 I9500 on the very first day despite of thinking about expensive price.. And later they came up with all those variants..
Neither they are releasing documentation for Exynos nor doing tremendous work in fixing bugs we are facing.. I would say, I will never ever go with Samsung again..
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Now that you mention it, i wouldnt be as offended if i could install CM on my 9500 lol, damn samsung and their sources
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There's really no need for an S4 with Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 (i9506).
Sure on paper it may perform better than the current S600 version, but will we notice in real life usage? Probably not.
The original Galaxy S4 S600 variant is more than enough hardware to run anything we throw at it, at least for the next year.
So be happy with with your S4 and just wait till the S5 is released, this will be even better again than i9506 version.
And so the cycle continues. This is simply technology for you.

negrobembon said:
Now that you mention it, i wouldnt be as offended if i could install CM on my 9500 lol, damn samsung and their sources
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Exactly.. If I get good after sale service from Samsung. I am more than happy of for that.. Samsung sucks in maintaining public relations and keeping promises.. They are liars, cheaters.. That's what I know. I am Samsung user since SGS1 days.. I know they never kept promises. They hate us (people over XDA)

Rahulrulez said:
Same feelings. I feel cheated.. I showed my support to Samsung.. Purchased SGS4 I9500 on the very first day despite of thinking about expensive price.. And later they came up with all those variants..
Neither they are releasing documentation for Exynos nor doing tremendous work in fixing bugs we are facing.. I would say, I will never ever go with Samsung again..
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IMO Samsung is doing this to keep up the competition with the recently released HTC One.
Their very first S4 may have been better in terms of specs but those who used HTC One and S4 in real life knew the difference and knew that HTC One was way better.
Therefore, they are trying to win this competition by releasing another variant of this device with better specs and also trying to reason the price.
But a word of advice to Samsung. There are not many people who know that there are so many variants of a single device. People just come in at a mobile store and ask for a S4. They seriously do not mention a particular variant no.
So Samsung, plz stop sh***ing around and plan on releasing better mobile phones like HTC one and not some plastic mobile with ground breaking specs thrown in which are not 100% compatible with each other.
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Mayank7795 said:
IMO Samsung is doing this to keep up the competition with the recently released HTC One.
Their very first S4 may have been better in terms of specs but those who used HTC One and S4 in real life knew the difference and knew that HTC One was way better.
Therefore, they are trying to win this competition by releasing another variant of this device with better specs and also trying to reason the price.
But a word of advice to Samsung. There are not many people who know that there are so many variants of a single device. People just come in at a mobile store and ask for a S4. They seriously do not mention a particular variant no.
So Samsung, plz stop sh***ing around and plan on releasing better mobile phones like HTC one and not some plastic mobile with ground breaking specs thrown in which are not 100% compatible with each other.
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To be specific, Every variant (except minis) of SGS4 has performed very very well against HTC One in terms of performance, battery life and camera too..
The competition is not HTC One.. They already are way way ahead than HTC One in terms of sales (5m vs 20m)..

negrobembon said:
theyre pushing the boundaries already, they must have known that the snapdragon 800 was going to be released soon when they released the s4
they could have waited instead of releasing a hundred variants
now early adopters are stuck with slower, more expensive versions of the same device(kinda since you can always buy the new one but its still a double expense)
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Slower versions? Slower where.? In antutu and quadrant? Come on guys, wake up, benchmark is not the end of the road. Be happy with the devices you get with your hard earned money.
Samsung is not the only player in market doing this, HTC and Sony are doing the same. Sony is now preparing honami and HTC is preparing a 5 inch HTC one which will make the xperia z and HTC one owners moan. And within a matter of time we will see devices with 5420 which will beat them all, the cycle goes on
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im going to get a phone i want htc one but here in my country its damn expensive , no ads for it compared with s4 and iphone , and you cannot find anywhere cases for it and its not popular but i think its better than s4 .... So i changed my mind and i was intending to get i9505 and this **** have come now but it would be expensive and i say to all s4 owners your phones is extremely fast comapred to its competitors and dont give a **** for samsung as i see this phone an un-needed upgrade and why they dont pack sd800 in note 3 and speed it up then pack it in next year's s5 (***k samsung)

bala_gamer said:
Slower versions? Slower where.? In antutu and quadrant? Come on guys, wake up, benchmark is not the end of the road. Be happy with the devices you get with your hard earned money.
Samsung is not the only player in market doing this, HTC and Sony are doing the same. Sony is now preparing honami and HTC is preparing a 5 inch HTC one which will make the xperia z and HTC one owners moan. And within a matter of time we will see devices with 5420 which will beat them all, the cycle goes on
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Youre right, speed is not that much of an issue as all versions are really fast but still...
And what about updates? How long will they take now that there are so many S4 running amok
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bala_gamer said:
Slower versions? Slower where.? In antutu and quadrant? Come on guys, wake up, benchmark is not the end of the road. Be happy with the devices you get with your hard earned money.
Samsung is not the only player in market doing this, HTC and Sony are doing the same. Sony is now preparing honami and HTC is preparing a 5 inch HTC one which will make the xperia z and HTC one owners moan. And within a matter of time we will see devices with 5420 which will beat them all, the cycle goes on
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Htc and sony are releasing a 5+ inch devices (phablets) to compete with note 3 so they wouldnt moan just like s and note

I am sure the life span of updates for SGS4 (I9500) will be much shorter than any other device in high end Galaxy lineup Only around 20-25% of SGS4 devices are I9500. I am worried about future updates. That's why I am vouching for either CM port or something like that

[Q] Exynos HMP Update

Hello everyone,
I was looking for a new tablet with a digitizer.
Obviously, I found the note 10.1 2014 pretty interesting and after watching some reviews and playing around with the Note 10.1 from 2012 it is safe to say that I am willing to buy it.
I read in the interwebs that the WiFi version differs slightly from the LTE version (european here) and that instead of a snapdragon 800, the WiFi version is powered by an exynos 5 octa core.
I was like jesus that's nice, an octa core processor for less money than the quad core. Stupid mainstream thoughts huh?
Well yeah so apparently the Exynos did have some performance issues which are mostly solved now.
I also read that Samsung is going to publish an update for so called HMP support, all 8 cores running at the same time.
Samsung said that they are NOT going to roll out this update to the Note 3 (not sure about that one, there's a lot of stuff to read about samsung products).
Did they say something about the Note 2014?
Will they publish this HMP thing? Or is it that tests weren't successful and nobody gets it with this generations Exynos?
Or is it already integrated in the newest Update?
TL;dr:
Will Samsung bring HMP support to the Note 2014?
Is it already rolled out?
Would you pay an additional 100€ for the S800? (despite LTE)
Thanks in advance,
cheers

So here goes I don't think we will get hmp for the note 10.1 2014 but I won't rule it out but its looking more unlikely every day. I would say there's very little performance differences between the wifi and LTE models, I don't think anyone would notice if you didn't tell them. If you wouldn't use the LTE then save your money. The wifi model will receive more dev love in terms of help and custom roms due to higher volume of people owning the wifi model. My advice take the wifi model and if hmp comes our way then it will be great but its not needed. Check my video and you can see just how fast this tablet is without hmp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpImBE_DIK8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875

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Closed in favor of the earlier discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875