firmware upgrade can lock an unlocked phone? - BlackBerry Priv

hi everyone,
i'm considering buying an at&t unlocked phone (unlocked by carrier as the seller noted).
does anybody knows if after a firmware upgrade the phone will be locked again?
or the upgrades come straight from blackberry servers and not from at&t.
i'm gonna use the phone in Israel and not the US.

My Priv is an AT&T unlocked one. I did the Autoloader update and use it in Brazil without any problem.

lacordaire said:
My Priv is an AT&T unlocked one. I did the Autoloader update and use it in Brazil without any problem.
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so i will need to auto-load the firmware my self and not use ova method?

taiber2000 said:
so i will need to auto-load the firmware my self and not use ova method?
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More than likely. Most of the carrier branded devices in NA will only get OTA updates pushed from the carriers themselves. I know I've seen a number of users posting on the Crackberry Priv forum complaining about not being able to get OTA updates with an unlocked device from some provider without a provider SIM, I want to say T-mobile, but cannot recall with certainty. But, it seems very likely that you'll have to autoload any system updates.

taiber2000 said:
so i will need to auto-load the firmware my self and not use ova method?
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Yes, I think so.

thanks guys,
will need to learn how to autoload updates without bricking my device.

Dear Lacordaire,
which software version did you use? the AAF 153 that is the Marshmallow version or the AAE 599 Lollipop version?

usually firmware updates dont relock phone if you used the NCK code.

Read this. I do it today. Works well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/bla...instal-blackberry-priv-carrier-t3447949/page1

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Flashing stock firmware on carrier locked phone

Hey everyone! I'm somewhat new to XDA (as in this is my first time creating/posting a thread) but I've decided this is the best place to get some help.
So, I have a carrier locked G935W8 Fido phone, and I was wondering if it was possible to install the stock G935W8 firmware from sammobile. I have read around that flashing the stock firmware works after the phone is unlocked, but what if it is still carrier locked? Can I still flash the stock G935W8? Or will I brick my device? My phone is not rooted btw.
Thanks to anyone that can help me out!
Welcome to XDA
yes, you can flash stock firmware as long as it is for the locked carrier.
Other firmware will work but the imei maybe effected.
Cosmic Blue said:
Welcome to XDA
yes, you can flash stock firmware as long as it is for the locked carrier.
Other firmware will work but the imei maybe effected.
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Well, that's the thing. I want to flash the unlocked Canadian firmware, as in the one with no carrier bloatware. Will that be possible and have the phone working 100%?
I'm afraid I don't have an answer to your question, but I just did the carrier unlock on my new G935W8 a few days ago using basically the first website to come up in a google search. $25 USD; waited about 18 hours to get the code. You don't have to rely on your carrier (with their insane fees and/or waiting periods) to unlock your phone; might as well just do it. Having an unlocked phone is very handy if you travel at all.
shadowdude123 said:
Well, that's the thing. I want to flash the unlocked Canadian firmware, as in the one with no carrier bloatware. Will that be possible and have the phone working 100%?
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yes, it will work for most things 100 %. volte may not work as it requires a carrier branded firmware.
you will probably have to enter the number for your voice mail manually and settings for internet as that is in the carrier branding.
Cosmic Blue said:
yes, it will work for most things 100 %. volte may not work as it requires a carrier branded firmware.
you will probably have to enter the number for your voice mail manually and settings for internet as that is in the carrier branding.
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Thank you everyone for your help! Just a question, what do you mean by settings for internet? As in data/LTE?

International Firmware

Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?
Pretty sure the firmware is locked to the device unless you root. I had an unlocked international S6(920?F) . It updated a lot earlier than the W released in Canada.
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ExLite23 said:
Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?
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If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.
callumbr1 said:
If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.
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Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.
ExLite23 said:
Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.
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For stuff like WiFi calling, voLTE, removal of bloat some csc tweaks
Guess that's unfortunate.

S8 active update

It is to ask i am having an unlocked s8 active with different carrier and out of usa... no ota here i am able to get and stuck on May security patch.. can somone suggest a way to pull updates as site is listing 2 more FOTAs more there.. will greatly thankful
You cant get otas outside of the usa on the phone its impossible. I did however just upload the dec update to the guides thread. You can flash that.
twizt3d said:
You cant get otas outside of the usa on the phone its impossible. I did however just upload the dec update to the guides thread. You can flash that.
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May be, if someone can connect through other's at&t phone in the US through vpn it could be done?
Golomidov said:
May be, if someone can connect through other's at&t phone in the US through vpn it could be done?
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I doubt it, i would assume it needs to connect to att towers, it probably checks the sim too. But truthfully i have no idea, i just highly doubt it. Updating us phones overseas has always been done via odin and sideloading.
can I use this firmware over the AT&T S8 Active?
https://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=9A769F232AFE11E99F15FA163EE8F90B
for now I'm on G892AUCS3BRG1
i'm asking because that both my existing firmware and new one on Link above are the same 3rd bootloader
New from TMB G892USQS3BSA2
On My AT&T device G892AUCS3BRG1
in both fifth symbol from the right to left are (3)
vazovskiiii said:
can I use this firmware over the AT&T S8 Active?
https://updato.com/firmware-archive-select-model?record=9A769F232AFE11E99F15FA163EE8F90B
for now I'm on G892AUCS3BRG1
i'm asking because that both my existing firmware and new one on Link above are the same 3rd bootloader
New from TMB G892USQS3BSA2
On My AT&T device G892AUCS3BRG1
in both fifth symbol from the right to left are (3)
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You're looking at the SM-G892U model. OP has the 892A. I wouldn't flash that unless you know they're interchangeable and also want a bunch of tmobile apps on the phone.
I've tried but even patched odin couldn't flash

Doubts before buying it on the Software and its unlocking

Hello, I want to buy this phone since I have seen it in amazon for 360 dollars, my question is that it is AT & T software but unlocked for any operator, is this really the case?
I am reading reviews in Amazon that say it is not really Unlocked and can not be used with other operators.
I want to use it in Argentina with the Personal operator.
If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.
xela19115 said:
If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.
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Thanks, for what I see I got confused with that of GSM or CDMA.
Check the only cheap and unlocked version that I see is the one with the AT & T software, is it easy to change the ROM to the Stock to receive updates?
Or is it better to leave it like this and update over time?
xela19115 said:
If it's carrier unlocked, you can use with any operator.
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But you can't update firmware with any operator, even when carrier unlocked.
Think again... https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-lmv350ulm-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
MasterThiefGarrett said:
Think again... https://lg-firmwares.com/lg-lmv350ulm-firmwares/#tab=firmwares
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Think again what? You still can't update with AT&T firmware. You're talking about flashing to non-AT&T firmware. But that's a workaround.
Carrier unlocking and using on non-ATT network lets you use the phone, but you won't get updates.
UNLESS YOU FLASH TO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FIRMWARE, which is another topic.
I'm using the att version of the LGv35 using straight talk on att towers and I receive updates periodically on time no issues. So I would think any US carrier that uses att towers should receive updates.
Optimusman said:
I'm using the att version of the LGv35 using straight talk on att towers and I receive updates periodically on time no issues. So I would think any US carrier that uses att towers should receive updates.
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But the op is asking about non-ATT. That's why he wants "carrier unlocked". Specifically he lives in Argentina, so he will NEVER use AT&T... But there's even people in U.S. who don't use AT&T nor AT&T MVNOs.
Carrier unlocked lets you use it in any carrier which has compatible bands, but you won't get updates. For that, you have to manually flash to other variant firmware KDZ
Just for the record, flashing to another firmware variant(at least on this phone) won't get you updates either. You'll need to manually download and flash each new update. I flashed my Amazon variant to the Google Fi kdz and never received another update, no matter how many came out. Had to start doing it manually, got annoyed, and flashed back to the Amazon kdz in anticipation of the Pie update coming out (eventually... Please LG, for the love of...)
As a side note, going from the Amazon software and using lgup to flash the gFi software as an upgrade worked fine, and I kept all of my data. Flashing back to the Amazon software as an upgrade soft-bricked my device and I had to do a full wipe and flash, and so lost all of my data. Reinstalling and reconfiguring all of your stuff is a pain in the ass when you don't have access to twrp for a proper backup.

NEW V35 [7/2020] Stuck on OREO?

Just bought this phone about a week ago, it is an Unlocked AT&T Model. It tells me basically that it does not need a OS Update - that it has the Latest 8.0. I am giving up on LG Support already!
Using their APK to update via USB told me that it cannot even check the Version of the OS, so definitely NO Update for this SUCKER!
Can anyone here PLEASE help me find a way to UPDATE this nice Smart Phone?
THANKS!
cyberized said:
Just bought this phone about a week ago, it is an Unlocked AT&T Model. It tells me basically that it does not need a OS Update - that it has the Latest 8.0. I am giving up on LG Support already!
Using their APK to update via USB told me that it cannot even check the Version of the OS, so definitely NO Update for this SUCKER!
Can anyone here PLEASE help me find a way to UPDATE this nice Smart Phone?
THANKS!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/help/change-att-rom-t4102067
ChazzMatt said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/help/change-att-rom-t4102067
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THANKS! Going to be to MUCH 4 dis ol' brain, I'm afraid, may have to hope/pray that LG just might dnld 9.0 for me or may ride 8.0 to me grave!
ChazzMatt said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/help/change-att-rom-t4102067
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This is what LG's response is to me about getting my AT&T Unlocked V35 Updated fm A. 8.0:
Hi Michael, we appreciate your time in getting back to us. I will be happy to assist you today.
In response to your inquiry, for carrier unlocked phones, the only way to get it updated is, you need to have a service again with the original service provider for them to send or push the Software update to your phone. While LG has no control with the software updates for carrier unlock phones, compared to manufacture unlock phones it automatically receives the software updates that was released OTA (Over the Air).
I hope I have provided all the information and wish it has been helpful in addressing your query. It has been a pleasure to help you out to the best of my knowledge and my skills.
Should you have any other questions, please feel free and don't hesitate to contact us again via Email, Live Chat, or Phone by calling 1-800-793-8896. As this email is used for outgoing mail only, you may send file attachments, replies, any information and further inquiries over to the email section of support https://www.lg.com/us/support/email-appointment and we will do our best to assist you without you having to repeat the details of your previous message.
Thank you for choosing LG Electronics!
Sincerely,
Johannes
I have to leave T-Mobile [cheaper/better] and go to AT&T - RATS!
ChazzMatt said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v35/help/change-att-rom-t4102067
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I heard from LG Support and they said that since it is an AT&T Unlocked Phone and not unlocked by them - I have to sign up with AT&T and noot my T-Mobile too get Updated....RATS....I just left
AT&T for better and cheaper service from T-Mobile and now I have to go back....guess I will and if/when they upgrade this NICE phone I will leave dem again!:laugh:
Or as I suggested, you simply cross flash to North American Open Market (NAO) firmware via Dev Patched LGUP.
You can also try temporarily putting in an AT&T SIM card (not even activated) and that can trigger AT&T update, if left for a few hours.
But people in other countries just cross flash to NAO as they don't need AT&T firmware whatsoever.
cyberized said:
This is what LG's response is to me about getting my AT&T Unlocked V35 Updated fm A. 8.0:
Hi Michael, we appreciate your time in getting back to us. I will be happy to assist you today.
In response to your inquiry, for carrier unlocked phones, the only way to get it updated is, you need to have a service again with the original service provider for them to send or push the Software update to your phone. While LG has no control with the software updates for carrier unlock phones, compared to manufacture unlock phones it automatically receives the software updates that was released OTA (Over the Air).
I hope I have provided all the information and wish it has been helpful in addressing your query. It has been a pleasure to help you out to the best of my knowledge and my skills.
Should you have any other questions, please feel free and don't hesitate to contact us again via Email, Live Chat, or Phone by calling 1-800-793-8896. As this email is used for outgoing mail only, you may send file attachments, replies, any information and further inquiries over to the email section of support https://www.lg.com/us/support/email-appointment and we will do our best to assist you without you having to repeat the details of your previous message.
Thank you for choosing LG Electronics!
Sincerely,
Johannes
I have to leave T-Mobile [cheaper/better] and go to AT&T - RATS!
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ChazzMatt said:
Or as I suggested, you simply cross flash to North American Open Market (NAO) firmware via Dev Patched LGUP.
You can also try temporarily putting in an AT&T SIM card (not even activated) and that can trigger AT&T update, if left for a few hours.
But people in other countries just cross flash to NAO as they don't need AT&T firmware whatsoever.
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Matt: TKS, I didn't think I'd ever need that AT&T SIM card, thru it away.........PLEASE tell this ol' man the easiest and safest way to "do da DEED" and FLASH it as you suggest above and thus be able to
stay w T-Mobile and eventually also get a better V. of 10.0.....Is it FOOL Proof? Hope so.......TKS:fingers-crossed:
cyberized said:
Matt: TKS, I didn't think I'd ever need that AT&T SIM card, thru it away.........PLEASE tell this ol' man the easiest and safest way to "do da DEED" and FLASH it as you suggest above and thus be able to
stay w T-Mobile and eventually also get a better V. of 10.0.....Is it FOOL Proof? Hope so.......TKS:fingers-crossed:
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Yes, people report AT&T SIM card will do the trick. Either prepaid or postpaid, they are both the same. Supposedly they don't have to be activated -- as long as you have AT&T firmware on your phone.
Some say a Red Pocket (AT&T MVNO) SIM card will, also. While Cricket (owned by AT&T) SIM card will not.
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, people report AT&T SIM card will do the trick. Either prepaid or postpaid, they are both the same. Supposedly they don't have to be activated -- as long as you have AT&T firmware on your phone.
Some say a Red Pocket (AT&T MVNO) SIM card will, also. While Cricket (owned by AT&T) SIM card will not.
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Called Best Buy to see IF I could pay someone there to Flash my V35, like you recommend, but they are not allowed to do things like that. Turning to Craig's List now.
Hey buddy, it's easy to do yourself. Just follow this comment and the linked guide. Process is the same. Super simple and straightforward. Let me know if you have any questions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LgV35/comments/f2yag4/just_got_one_should_i_modify_it/fhg34cy
Latest firmware for the V35 now (AT&T does have an early version of the Android 10 update, but kdz not released. We have to wait for a ULM kdz to be released to flash the 10 and update. Until then we're on Android 9 still) is the 04/2020 update. Sort by date on lg-firmwares.com, for device choose LMV350ULM, you want the ULM as its the unlocked carrier free version of the V35, and crossflashing the AT&T version is completely safe (I'm using an AT&T V35 in Canada on Koodo with the ULM software). In the software list choose GFI or USA (I'd recommend the USA version, unless you're on google fi).
cyberized said:
Called Best Buy to see IF I could pay someone there to Flash my V35, like you recommend, but they are not allowed to do things like that. Turning to Craig's List now.
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Buy one of these AT&T SIM cards. Less than $3 with free shipping.
Leave it in overnight, see if the OTA update shows up.
Keep your T-Mobile. This is just to trigger the update.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174018618281
ChazzMatt said:
Buy one of these AT&T SIM cards. Less than $3 with free shipping.
Leave it in overnight, see if the OTA update shows up.
Keep your T-Mobile. This is just to trigger the update.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174018618281
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THANKS MUCHO Matt - I will definitely do that right away! Appreciate da TIP!
ugslick said:
Hey buddy, it's easy to do yourself. Just follow this comment and the linked guide. Process is the same. Super simple and straightforward. Let me know if you have any questions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LgV35/comments/f2yag4/just_got_one_should_i_modify_it/fhg34cy
Latest firmware for the V35 now (AT&T does have an early version of the Android 10 update, but kdz not released. We have to wait for a ULM kdz to be released to flash the 10 and update. Until then we're on Android 9 still) is the 04/2020 update. Sort by date on lg-firmwares.com, for device choose LMV350ULM, you want the ULM as its the unlocked carrier free version of the V35, and crossflashing the AT&T version is completely safe (I'm using an AT&T V35 in Canada on Koodo with the ULM software). In the software list choose GFI or USA (I'd recommend the USA version, unless you're on google fi).
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THANKS for Great Suggestion, I looked over the LINKS etc. and bookmarked but at my age etc., I am alot more TECH SAVY than probably most 81 yr olds BUT I just don't feel confident enough trying to follow all of those instructions, wish I did....know it appears SIMPLE, but I just paid for this NICE Phone and would HATE to BRICK it!
BTW...just abit ago I got notice you sent me a PM but when I tried to open it [SORRY] I guess my Blocker blocked it and sent it into
CyberSpace or something....can't seem to find it now. I just followed ChazzMatt's TIP - and ordered a $2.99 ATT Sim Card to put into my LG V35 to hopefully trigger aN UPDATE. Laters, Michael
Just follow this video for upgrading your V35 to latest firmware
so, (directed toward Chazzmatt) I'm just needing a recommendation on which one to do (or wait for). Ive got the ATT unlocked model on MetrobyTMobile. (LM-V350AWM) I first updated it via modified LGUP to V350ULM20d (V350ULM20d_00_NAO_US_OP_0612), then to V350ULM20f (V350ULM20f_00_NAO_US_OP_0218). ((it still shows as V350AWM in the sys info, but all bloatware is gone))
Now, a while back I went into an ATT store and got them to sell me an un-activated sim card, and tried to update that way and failed (not knowing you had to wait a couple hours or overnight). My question is, would the simcard ota update work for me, and if so, would it be the full blown bloated att version of 10.
Or, should I just keep patiently waiting for the NAO KDZ (V350ULM30?) like you've been screaming for us to do since the very beginning! lol
(apologies for the gratuitous use of parentheses)
*Update - They're now saying we will be getting LG's new Velvet UI, should I wait even longer for that to be released???
burt_mcgirt said:
so, (directed toward Chazzmatt) I'm just needing a recommendation on which one to do (or wait for). Ive got the ATT unlocked model on MetrobyTMobile. (LM-V350AWM) I first updated it via modified LGUP to V350ULM20d (V350ULM20d_00_NAO_US_OP_0612), then to V350ULM20f (V350ULM20f_00_NAO_US_OP_0218). ((it still shows as V350AWM in the sys info, but all bloatware is gone))
Now, a while back I went into an ATT store and got them to sell me an un-activated sim card, and tried to update that way and failed (not knowing you had to wait a couple hours or overnight). My question is, would the simcard ota update work for me, and if so, would it be the full blown bloated att version of 10.
Or, should I just keep patiently waiting for the NAO KDZ (V350ULM30?) like you've been screaming for us to do since the very beginning! lol
(apologies for the gratuitous use of parentheses)
*Update - They're now saying we will be getting LG's new Velvet UI, should I wait even longer for that to be released???
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The AT&T SIM card trick only works if you still have AT&T firmware installed.
If you cross flashed to another V35 firmware you need to wait for that KDZ to be released. It's coming. LG is just slow. Same deal last year with Pie.
ChazzMatt said:
The AT&T SIM card trick only works if you still have AT&T firmware installed.
If you cross flashed to another V35 firmware you need to wait for that KDZ to be released. It's coming. LG is just slow. Same deal last year with Pie.
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ah, thanks for clearing that up! I'm guessing we might have to wait even longer now that they've announced we'll be getting Velvet UI and need time to add that to the KDZ, or is the UI update something that will come later on?

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