Hello, i'm thinking of flashing a custom kernel to my MXP, but I don't really know which kernel should I choose cause I don't know which is better.
There are 2 kernels that which very popular around here are Squid and Ultra kernel.
I'm trying to flash a kernel which support for great gaming performance and extend the battery life a little bit, and giving less heat up my beloved phone. I've heard there's a kernel that can overclock past 1.6GHz, so I want to try (To be honest I've never overclock a modern generation phone's CPU before so I don't want to in over my head, plus I don't want to overclock it because I don't really want to because I've been out of the game for so long since I did it with my Sony X8).
I'm opening this thread hoping you guys (the Pros) can teach me, show me or recommend me about this.
Thank you
So as far as I know there are two kernels available for marshmallow. Squid's and Ultra. Squid was the first around here and has kept updating and improving. That is the one that you can overclock, as a matter of fact is overclocked as soon as you flash it. Most people use Kernel Adiutor to tweak it. Ultra kernel on the other hand expands on Squid's but it hasn't been updated in a while and some of the governors available on Ultra create crashes and bootloops. In reality the only way to go is stock (as in the one that comes with whatever ROM you flash) or squid's. Some people might disagree with me but I would suggest making your own opinion by reading through the threads. Most questions, issues and concerns are addressed within. Otherwise, good luck.
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im searching for a kitkat rom and kernel stable with good performance for gaming anyone knows?
Yes, we know... Now you can find it yourself...
Just set your governor to performance and you are good to go. If your devices not good enough it doesnt matter which kernel or rom you have
There's no such thing as "best rom / kernel for gaming", you can try some of them and then choose the one thats suits you.
ROM will be pretty much irrelevant unless it requires a stock kernel or doesn't work with custom kernels.
Kernel only matters if you want to try overclocking. Some can be overclocked, some can't. Test at your own risk. Pointless, IMO. The S4 Pro and 2GB RAM is good enough to handle even the most intense games just fine, with the 720p screen.
Are there currently any kernels that would work nicely with 5.0? I want to overclock a bit but don't think theres any kernels yet, just asking here as assurance I'm right or to be proved wrong.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Are there currently any kernels that would work nicely with 5.0? I want to overclock a bit but don't think theres any kernels yet, just asking here as assurance I'm right or to be proved wrong.
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Youre able to use any kernels such as funky, faux, etc. Basically any that dont come with their own ramdisk. Personally i use snuzzos funky kernel that if you care about benchmarks puts the grouper right on top with this years' flagship devices on antutu without any overclocking. Though if thats a need faux is stable enough with lolipop to overclock nicely
Edit: if you were to go with funky you should try out the CPU governor 'lulzactive' as that's by far better than any other I've tried, on my hardware at least.
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Youre able to use any kernels such as funky, faux, etc. Basically any that dont come with their own ramdisk. Personally i use snuzzos funky kernel that if you care about benchmarks puts the grouper right on top with this years' flagship devices on antutu without any overclocking. Though if thats a need faux is stable enough with lolipop to overclock nicely
Edit: if you were to go with funky you should try out the CPU governor 'lulzactive' as that's by far better than any other I've tried, on my hardware at least.
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Will do, I'm looking for something to make my N7 go from a car engine to a hyperdrive! & yes I love getting high benchmarks, sorta tricks me into believing my device is faster than it is lol. Might make me be totally oblivious to any lag haha xD. Anyways I'll give funky a shot with the lulzactive gov as I've already tried Faux before.
Is it at all possible to overclock my phone I've heard about it but not sure
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Is it at all possible to overclock my phone I've heard about it but not sure
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Yeap, but you to have to flash either a custom rom and kernel, or just a stock based custom kernel.
For example you can flash CM 12.1 and use Renix63's kernel which features CPU overclock, custom governors & I/O schedulers etc. Search the S3 Threads, there's everything to answer any of your questions. If you need help by finding something specific, I can you list you the corresponding threads for unlocking/rooting and a rom&kernel to keep up with the latest progress.
I would not be too excited however, overclock is not really needed on our device, only if you need to run an heavy game
The phone gets pretty hot as it is so I wouldn't do it if I were you.
Excuse me fellas, but I have my phone overclocked without any issues. I'm getting a faster response and I haven't faced any high temp. So, before replying, have it tested, because it seems that you got the answers from the back of your head. He doesn't care if there are problems, you won't prevent him, or better, you dont have the privilege to do so.
Check my signature. @1497Mhz (I had it @1593 for a while), with a great enough battery life, better responsiveness and a cool phone.
So I want to OC my phone a bit.
That's my only gripe with this device, that it's a tad bit slow - I think due to the high resolution.
Back in the past I used OC on my Note 2 and S3, and both became blazing fast.
I realize you cannot push a chip on 2,2ghz all day long.
But that extra boost is extra handy when you do need the speed.
I checked out the kernel forum of course, but I only found a GPU OC kernel, and one kernel with only a 2.0ghz OC.
That's only 0.1 ghz increment, that ain't not much.
Ps.: I realize that not every chip is the same. They all have different undervolting/overclocking capabilities, it's silicon lottery. But I do want to see if I could push my Note 4 a bit. And heck, it will throttle anyway if things get a bit hot.
And of course another post about someone wanting to control their cpu and nobody on these forums gives you an answer, I have been trying to look for solutions and kernals that offer cpu overclocking to atleast 3000mhz like how cm13 is, The problem is I dont like the ui of cm13 and want to use rooted jasmine which is based on stock 6.0.1 , but the cpu on apps only lets me clock it to 2649mhz and it doesnt let me set frequencies at all sometimes, it seems nobody knows or cares to tell anyone if their roms support cpu tuning or not, its sad and annoying because people seem to get their useless questions answered and not issues of this kind which are why some people even decided to root in the first place, like me.
Did u checked the Nemesis and Refined ROM threads from the exynos forum? There you can find what you want.
Here you can find and learn if you have a time and will to know and learn every possible things about Cpu ,setting up Cpu ,frequency and other stuff:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/ref-to-date-guide-cpu-governors-o-t3048957/page89
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
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one question... how to REALLY TEST and compare a kernel?
sometimes adding and modding the phone with custom rom, kernel, greenify and other manual modded cpu governor etc...... it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to understand if the perfornance, or battery life is affected by a kernel or something else.
A person could obtain a bad battery life but the culprit could be ANYTHING.....
so IMHO the easiest way to compare a kernel is the numbers of features and OPTIONS that allows it.... something like how many governor, i/o schedulers , tcp algorithms, dt2w..... and so on... because a PERFECT kernel... could be perfect in some roms.... and worse on others.....
there are too many complications about the number of apps, which apps, to use greenify or naptime/forcedoze , and a possible incompatibility with a specific ROM with specific kernel.
after all........ maybe the simpler test is to keep the same configuration of the rom for at least 1 week, make a nandroid twrp backup, flash 1 kernel, keep it 1 week ( and see results), then restore twrp with stock kernel/rom , then flash the second one kernel, keep 1 week, then restore backup, test 3rd kernel.... and so on? making it sure NOTHING CHANGE, no greenify change... no gaggressive doze setting change....
it would be nice if other people would write here they combination of precise KERNEL + ROM used to achieve a great battery life and SOT.......
No doubt all these kernels are well tuned and devs are making them better & better every day. I always use RADON KERNEL and it works with every rom just perfect, never tried AGNI though, two days back I flashed ElementX and Franco kernel but I noticed two big cores are either going "offline" or shutting them off permanently. @franciscofranco replied those two cores were thermal throttled or something (may be....) but after RADON I didn't noticed that issue, all 6cores are back online . So for now I'm sticking with radon I'll flash FrancoKernel next week and see if thingd sorted out..
Most off all I think we kenzo users are blessed to have all these big names in development thread.
Why isn´t Lineage Os on the List (a.k.a Cyanogen Mod)
I certainly like Radon best . Save battery and not lose performance .
I don't like AGNi . Because it update too frequently sometimes and little waste battery .And that ,I don't like the AGNi Controller ,One reason :For users who use other languages, this apk is difficult to translate . But , I can't deny it is a good kernel .
About Other kernel , I did not use them for a long time . So I do not understand.
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one question... how to REALLY TEST and compare a kernel?
sometimes adding and modding the phone with custom rom, kernel, greenify and other manual modded cpu governor etc...... it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to understand if the perfornance, or battery life is affected by a kernel or something else.
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Battery and performance are undeniably affected by your kernel.
For example, the battery life on Nitrogen OS kernel is amazing, and the reason for that is, reduced performance. It's not slow, it's smooth really, but it's slower than Radon's balanced configuration.
And I think your argument that a kernel can be judged by the number of features, governors and schedulers it includes is wrong, because you don't need multiple governors or schedulers to get a good experience.
At one time, you'll only be using one, and that's why the stock configuration of the kernel matters.
I think every custom kernel has their advantages and disadvantages.
All we need to do is tuning it.
For example, I use Franco kernel and I changed the input boost ms for better responsive.
Or I use nitrogen kernel and tuning the governor for better performance.
However, I choose latest ex kernel manager app to tuning the kernel. It's more friendly ui and more reliable.
And the best thing is latest version of radon/franco/exkernel/nitrogen/agni has unified fp support.