I probably have one from the earlier batches, and the buttons I find a bit too stiff. Would love it if they were much softer. I recently made a trip to Costco, which had a dummy phone whose buttons were much easier to press. Now, I'm wondering if later batches have softer buttons. It could be the way the dummy phone was made though...
Anyone who's ordered more than 1 phone notice any difference in the action of the buttons?
I actually exchanged my phone for a new one last week because the back button started creaking after awhile. (That was just one of several problems I had with that phone...) I think the buttons were really stiff and because of that I felt I had to press harder on the button and I think wearing down the button way too much to the point it started to creak.
The new phone I got has a much better tactile feel on the buttons now. It's a bit softer to touch and quieter.
I have my second MT4G. The first one made sometimes creaky noise on the home button but that was not the reason why I returned it. My second one doesn't have the creaky noise but the buttons are still hard to press. I come from the N1 that had soft buttons so everything with hardware buttons is a big change. I think that the buttons are more protruding on my second one; feels a bit odd but no reason to exchange this phone again.
I was curious whether the buttons are easy to trigger by accident.
On my Nexus S and the Focus, there is a subtle upward curve at the bottom of the phone. This small lip seems to prevent a lot of accidental presses of the capacitive buttons.
In my experiences with a completely flat face phone (the HD7), accidentally pressing the capqcitive buttons was extremely common and annoying. I like the looks of the Omnia 7 more than the Focus, but if it leads to similar problems as the HD7 (always pressing the buttons by accident) then I'd rather go with the focus.
For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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For me that's one of the most annoying things about the phone. I hit the search button all the time.. But some say there will be a firmware update to fix that.
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That's exactly what used to happen to me with my HD7. When I held the phone part of my thumb would be on the bezel and it would hit the search button. Also, when I held the phone in landscape my finger would also hit it.
With the Nexus S I don't run into this problem because the bottom is curved a bit. I've also played with the Focus a bit and it seems to have this slight curve at the bottom as well.
yup same thing here, this is when I spend time try to browse through apps and use my phone when it was still new. now i got the hang of it, and i dont really fiddle it as much as before now, just a basic need. and i got what a really wanted, fast and responsive phone.
I personally have no issues using the back buttons, But I hear alot of people do, how's your experience?
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I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
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I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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+1 (Verizon version) Any problems I had were solved with a case. Its really a non issue IMO. When the side bezel is cut in half again next year more manufactures may be forced to do the same. Who knows, we'll have to wait and see!
Have no issue them. Only time I use the back buttons is when I turn my phone on/off. I like that people can see the light on when your talking on the phone.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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My solution for that was a volume widget on the lockscreen when its charging.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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tl;dr : back buttons are easy to get used to and the benefits far outweigh any negatives.
Wall of text incoming for the bored.
There are times when you can't access the back. There is no perfect way to interact with the phone in every circumstance with any phone but the back buttons in my opinion are a great idea, and what you gain far outweighs the benefits of buttons in the traditional locations. I hope LG sticks to their guns and keeps trying to improve the power and control button locations.
People can and should easily adapt, so if LG can come up with a better system they should go for that. I don't care if dimwits can't learn to push a button in a location that they are new to. LG gambled that people wouldn't be too put off by the change and I'm sure they have lost a number of sales due to that roll of the dice but if the placement of the buttons are what keep you from buying this phone, you don't deserve a phone this good.
Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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My sentiments exactly. I find myself constantly tapping devices now, I even felt the compulsion to program doubletap to turn on with my Linux Netbook(Touchscreen).
I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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FWIW, I'm kind of digging the buttons on the back.
I'm liking them, it means you can hold the phone more firmly and on any edge without risk of pressing a button. When I first got it i was having issues feeling the difference between the camera/volume ridge and the power button but now it's pretty easy.
I love them. Lets me easily change volume on music and such while its in my pocket. Sure, you can do it with side buttons too, but still.
I also find it easier to reach these buttons than the traditional sidebuttons.
Only beef I have with them is from leaning against a fender when working on a car. It keeps turning the camera on and taking pocket pictures. Took exactly 100 pocket pictures today. I usually don't have my phone with me when I'm working in the garage but I basically can't now. Just a little annoying.
I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
No issues. Hardly ever press them since knock knock feature was introduce.
-LG G2
I liked the idea of the back buttons, even before I purchased or knew much about the phone. it gives the phone symmetry, physically and visually. I understood the logic behind the design, and even if you can't get used to them, it's definitely NOT A DEAL-BREAKER that so many reviewers emphasize...which is sad.
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I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
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Nah, I just shouldn't be posting at 3 am in the morning But I actually did have problems reaching the soft keys
I like that the keys are back there. But what I like even more about this phone is that I rarely have to use them. The quirky tap on/off works well enough to be useful, and the buttons on the back are perfect.
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I didn't think the back keys were bad when I bought the phone, but they have slowly become very annoying and I would rather have not had them. When in my pocket the phone goes on all the time, when I sit it seems to apply a little pressure on the phone because it's a larger phone, and that presses the power button. Also when I have it in my pocket any light pressure on the volume keys will activate them, it's annoying while at the gym listening to music. Many times when I simply pick it up I'll lightly touch the power button and it turns on, the knock on feature also is kind of easy to accidentally activate just picking the phone up and handling it. It's also impossible to use the keys while the phone is in its car cradle.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. I have Cyanogenmod 10.2 on it and overall it's a beast, I definitely love it. But I think the rear buttons were a mistake and it would have crossed over from 99% to 100% if it had regular buttons IMO.
I love them. They feel natural and other phones no longer do.
I even use the power button instead of knock knock sometimes.
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First off I want to start by saying that this is potentially the best piece of technology I have ever bought. I am in LOVE with the flexibility of Android (brand new iOS switch over) and the raw power and hardware of the N3.
I bought this beast a couple of days ago and I instantly noticed that the home button was a bit wiggly if I tried hard to make it wiggle. Needless to say I ran to the web and found that may others have been having the same issue but its not a deal breaker in any way. I have come to terms with it and it no longer bothers me.
What I also noticed was that the volume buttons are quite loose and shake quite a bit if I move them around with my finger. I can also hear them rattling a little bit if I shake the phone and if it vibrates there is a slight sound. Is this also standard with all N3's or are my volume rockers a one off case?
I am under a replacement warranty and getting a new piece should be no issue, but if this volume issue is a common one then I wont bother as everything else is working perfectly and I don't want to risk running into different problems with another N3.
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First off I want to start by saying that this is potentially the best piece of technology I have ever bought. I am in LOVE with the flexibility of Android (brand new iOS switch over) and the raw power and hardware of the N3.
I bought this beast a couple of days ago and I instantly noticed that the home button was a bit wiggly if I tried hard to make it wiggle. Needless to say I ran to the web and found that may others have been having the same issue but its not a deal breaker in any way. I have come to terms with it and it no longer bothers me.
What I also noticed was that the volume buttons are quite loose and shake quite a bit if I move them around with my finger. I can also hear them rattling a little bit if I shake the phone and if it vibrates there is a slight sound. Is this also standard with all N3's or are my volume rockers a one off case?
I am under a replacement warranty and getting a new piece should be no issue, but if this volume issue is a common one then I wont bother as everything else is working perfectly and I don't want to risk running into different problems with another N3.
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Not seen any issues regarding Volume buttons being dodgy, only the home button. (only a small percentage tho) - Guess you just got a lemon unit, it does happen from time to time with any hardware.
I've got no problems on the home button or the volume buttons or the power button. Once you put a case on it you won't notice if it's just minor. But if it's bad, is get it changed. ..?
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Now that more people have gotten their phones, can you guys chime in and say whether you have a lose volume rocker.
My volume rocker is lose and makes a little rattle when I tap it with my finger, I can also move it side to side. My power button is perfectly solid however.
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My first one had this issue, (along the with a raised back panel and some cosmetic marks on the bezel).
Second one was fine though. Pity I had to RMA that one as it got stuck in the official Folio case.
Third one was fine too.
No mine doesn't do this. Solid volume rocker and with good fitment. My power button however, DOES sound off every now and again. Can't always reproduce it.
Mine is fine. Just as I would expect build quality wise and power button is also fine.
Yes I also have the raised back panel as well.
Google is now claiming that lose buttons are not a good enough reason to RMA devices and that it's simple offset tolerances that should be accepted by the customer.
They know about the issue and are trying to sell it off by saying it is acceptable to have rattling buttons because they allow tolerances in the build.
This is a simple lie by the way because something that's 1.5 millimeters wide as these buttons are, would NEVER have a tolerance of error to nearly over half of millimeter. And even if the tolerance was really that high, it would be made up by rubber inserts and mounting brackets tightly aligning and holding things in place