Can I access the X Play via fastboot on Win7 without installing Motorola Drivers? - X Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just got my Moto X Play and wanted to root it and flash CM13. I installed the Google USB Drivers to get Windows to recognize the ADB interface, and getting into fastboot mode with ADB works just fine. But once there, "fastboot devices" fails to recognize the device. The device manager shows an unrecognized device "Fastboot lux S" for which the google USB drivers don't work. I've read that this should be fixed by installing the official Motorola drivers, but I would like to avoid that if possible - I'm doing this to get rid of the Motorola crap, installing more of it on my PC to do so would be disappointing.
So, I've got a heap of questions:
- Can I use fastboot on Win7 without installing Motorola-specific drivers? It seems that there should be a generic driver for the fastboot interface as it's a feature on all modern android devices AFAIK.
- Is it possible to use Linux to connect to the device via fastboot? I doubt there's a Linux driver from Motorola... but if it's possible to get fastboot access, I'd just boot a live CD and do the unlock from there.
- Does my objection to the Motorola Drivers make sense? Are there any benefits to having the drivers installed if I flash CM on the device?

The drivers are irrelevant to the OS you want. You need the drivers, install the drivers. Your computer is trying to talk to the phone, and right now they are speaking different languages, the driver is an instruction on how to talk to the phone. It has very little to do with Motorola, google didn't build your phone, they supplied the OS. Fastboot is effectively the BIOS of your phone, imagine what would happen if you flashed the wrong BIOS on your computer., would you call Microsoft and say fix it? no.
Install the damn drivers and get over it.

ImWarped said:
It has very little to do with Motorola ...
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That's exactly why I asked, I thought this was a standartized part of Android for which there might be a generic Windows driver - I guess that's not the case, thanks for the clarification. But I googled around and unlocking under Linux seems to work (and without requiring a driver), so I'll try that first.

fckmoto said:
- Is it possible to use Linux to connect to the device via fastboot? I doubt there's a Linux driver from Motorola... but if it's possible to get fastboot access, I'd just boot a live CD and do the unlock from there.
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fckmoto said:
I googled around and unlocking under Linux seems to work (and without requiring a driver), so I'll try that first.
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Since my wife moved to an Android phone, our house is Microsoft free. Being a fairly novice user who likes to tinker, this always introduces extra layers of doubt and uncertainty ...even fear, at times. I am forced to wonder, in the presence of all the Windows software and Windows-based procedures and advice, does it work on Linux?
My answer, so far, over three phones, is that if it is adb or fastboot stuff, then, yes it does. Or, at least, so far, everything I've tried works.
Depending on your linux distro, you might have to install some extra package containing those commands. You might want to install the whole Google android package. 99.999% developer stuff, but includes the two commands that you want. It's probably more up-to-date than the Linux-distro versions.
You might have to insert a line with some manufacturer ID (I didn't for the X Play) in some configuration file.
Look... my anti-MS biases show even through a thick overcoat. But do the linux thing only if you want to do linux. By the time you've read this post, you could probably have installed those drivers .
Does my objection to the Motorola Drivers make sense?
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No.

Thad E Ginathom said:
No.
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Heh, I guess it's somewhat thick-headed to look for alternatives instead of just installing the drivers. My main problem with that is that Motorola doesn't offer a direct download of the driver but wants me to install a driver manager tool instead... I've kept my pc crapware-free thus far and intend to keep it that way If it's as simple as installing a few Android dev packages under Linux, I'll definitely take that route.
But with bash and the full Canonical repositories coming to Win10, maybe one could use the Linux adb and fastboot binaries under Windows in the not-so-far future... I wonder if those would then work without a device driver

Install 15 seconds adb 1.4.3 and run it in your fastboot folder you create in C of Windows7, no Motorola drivers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118

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ADB does not find device

Hi all,
I've searched the forums (honestly), but I can't find an answer to my problem.
I have a Vodafone branded 32B phone.
I installed the AndroidSDK as supposed to, added the path, made the phone root, booted into the recovery console using fastboot and flashed my phone with different operating systems... but during all this time I hever got ADB to work.
Whatever I do, adb never finds the phone. Fastboot works and finds it, when it's in fastboot mode, but ADB never. So, I can't permanently install the recovery console nor do any of the other funky stuff.
ADB doesn't work when the phone is in fastboot mode nor normally operating. I have USB Debugging turned on. The phone works normally and I can access the SDCard just fine.
Any help?
Suggestion.
Look into purchasing a G1 to be kept as a spare and used for development. That's what I've done with my G1. GParted is within most recovery images nowadays, therefore you can do most anything there, well...important functions that is. Keep that in mind.
You might need to uninstall the driver that recognizes your phone, then manually install the updated driver.
Reignzone said:
You might need to uninstall the driver that recognizes your phone, then manually install the updated driver.
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that's what i had to do to get it to recognise my phone.
i'm pretty sure the driver came with SDK. either way i've attached the one i used.
go into device manager and update the driver it's currently using with the attached one.
Incorrect driver.
It should be the 1st driver listed in the Android SDK file.
As far as I know, you could also choose to push ADB to your system32 file folder under the C: drive in your computer. That is if you're using a Windows machine.
just a thought
Are you on windows or linux? If you're in ubuntu try sudo adb ... the default unprivilaged user doesnt automatically have access to the device.
If you're in Windows I would uninstall the Android Phone device in device manager and reboot with the phone disconnected. Then connect it and install the usb driver from the sdk when prompted. Might also pay to download the sdk again.
Install HTC Sync
Another known way to fix the issue is to download and install HTC Sync http://www.htc.com/au/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=573&news_id=169
This seems to install the correct drivers
For more info check the Wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Sapphire_Hacking#sec02
Hey Guys,
Forgot to mention I'm on Windows Vista 64 bits.
That last suggestion did the trick. I went to the site and downloaded the HTCDriverUpdate_Vista_64bits.exe, and within seconds I had an ADB connection.
Thanks for your help!

Google Maps, Facebook and ADB

Hello All.
I've had my UK, T-Mobile G1 for quite a while now. I have rooted it and it is running the latest CyanogenMod recovery image and ROM. I also have Apps2SD set up on my 8GB SD card, on a 512MB ext partition. This was all working fine until the problems below occurred...
I'm having some problems with several apps and ADB.
My PC runs Windows 7, 64 bit, and I can't seem to find a driver for the G1's ADB. I'm probably being incredibly stupid, but I just can't find one. I have used one before on Vista, where I had to set some boot options, but I'm not too sure / happy about doing that on my nicely functioning Windows 7. And as my friend once said; "You mess around with windows, then windows will mess around with you"...
But, anyway, I can't seem to get ADB working, if someone could either send me a link to the drivers or guide me through it, I'd be grateful...
Also, it may be due to me running CyanogenMod, but if I try to update the Facebook app, it downloads the app, and then when it tries to install, gives me the error "Installation Unsuccessful - Incompatible Update".
And with the Google Maps app, it says "Installation unsuccessful - Package file was not signed correctly". This may be due to me trying to get the hacked version of the app to get the Google Maps Navigation working in the UK, but I couldn't get that to work, so I uninstalled it and Nav Launcher, and now when I try to update from the Market it gives me that error.
I've seen a guide online with ADB commands, but as I have no access to ADB, I'm a tad screwed. I've tried runnign the commands in the Terminal Emulator in the phone, which does approximately nothing whatsoever.
So, can anyone give me any guidance on any of my Android problems?
Thanks in advance - Ethan
To the best of my knowledge no one has successfully used ADB with Windows 7/64bit
jamesrdorn said:
To the best of my knowledge no one has successfully used ADB with Windows 7/64bit
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Ah. Looks like I'll be reinstalling Ubuntu then for the ADB. Thank you for such a fast response.
- Ethan
jamesrdorn said:
To the best of my knowledge no one has successfully used ADB with Windows 7/64bit
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Lies, I'm running windows 7 64bit and ADB works fine.
chris4500uk said:
Lies, I'm running windows 7 64bit and ADB works fine.
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In that case, do you remember where you obtained the driver from? I would love a link, or a zip file or something...
I'm on Vista x64 SP2 and I can use ADB just fine. You just need to download the SDK and then get the USB driver through there. It used to come included, but now you need to use the ADV and SDK manager and download the drivers as an SDK Component through there.
After that, make sure your phone is set to USB Debugging mode and plug it in then point windows to the new drivers. If it doesn't want to install the new drivers, you might need to remove the old ones first. I had to use USB Deview (DL link at bottom of page) and removed all installed HTC drivers. After that I plugged my G1 back in, pointed it at the newly downloaded drivers and all was well.
I'm running adb/fastboot/android sdk on win7 64b ultimate. The drivers are included in the sdk download. Once you download the sdk, make sure you have java installed. (I had to install JRE and JDK to get it to work properly, not sure if this was needed) Anyhow, when you have the sdk downloaded, run the sdk setup program. Go to settings and check the box for force update (unsure of the exact terminology used there) then go to available updates and your drivers are the last option on the list.

[Q] fastboot no longer works

I have a folder for android stuff like fastboot and adb that I keep for fixing my phone. I keep the minimum files required for fastboot to work... adb.exe, adbwinapi.dll, fastboot.exe and the 64bit usb drivers.
I used to be able to use fastboot even after formatting my computer (and reinstalling the drivers), but it's been a long time and when I tried to do the same again, it no longer works.
Windows says the driver is not compatible with the device. I download Android SDK Tools to download the usb drivers there. They install, but fastboot still doesn't detect the phone.
I tried following tutorials out there to get fastboot to work, but I tried on 2 HTC Dreams and they don't get detected. What am I missing?
Only thing I remember being different is that I'm using Windows 7 x64 SP1 now and before I was using plain Windows 7 x64.
You need to use the usb driver removal tool and install the usb driver from SDK.
yes you've got my same trouble.
this is my thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032249
i solved with backtrack 3.. don't ask me why because i don't know.. i just have a try with bt3 because i use bring it with me on my pendrive (it can ever be useful )
BeenAndroidized said:
You need to use the usb driver removal tool and install the usb driver from SDK.
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The old drivers I had were never installed. For some reason, Windows did not recognize a compatible driver. I did download a fresh set of drivers from SDK and windows did install them, but fastboot devices is not listing anything.
P4p3r1n0 said:
yes you've got my same trouble.
this is my thread.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032249
i solved with backtrack 3.. don't ask me why because i don't know.. i just have a try with bt3 because i use bring it with me on my pendrive (it can ever be useful )
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I see no reason why I can't use fastboot on Windows if it worked before. Perhaps if there is no other way, I'll try Linux distros.
It sound like there is no compatible driver for Windows 7 x64 SP1. Check google to see may be they might have an updates.
BeenAndroidized said:
It sound like there is no compatible driver for Windows 7 x64 SP1. Check google to see may be they might have an updates.
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So there is an actual difference between win7 and sp1 in regards to the drivers and not that I set it up wrong?
From my experience on working with Windows. Every version always different. As far as how much different, I can't tell.
If you had it working with W7 before SP1, then there is a change in driver that causing it not to work correctly. Do you required to upgrade to W7 SP1? Or is that your preference?
BeenAndroidized said:
From my experience on working with Windows. Every version always different. As far as how much different, I can't tell.
If you had it working with W7 before SP1, then there is a change in driver that causing it not to work correctly. Do you required to upgrade to W7 SP1? Or is that your preference?
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Well that's all I can think of. Just wanted to know if anyone else had problems with sp1. I think faastboot should work with my winxp vms.. gonna try that next time I try to use fastboot..

[Q] Nexus 7 Fastboot Does Not Work

I am sorry if this topic is covered in other threads. I search around and could only find the developer thread and I am not yet allowed to post there.
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I have a new Nexus 7 running Jelly Bean 4.2.1. I have activated developer mode and checked the "USB Debugging" box. Other than that, it is in the default configuration.
I want to root it, so I went to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195 and downloaded the Google Nexus Toolkit.
After identifying my device (Android 4.2.1 (Build JPP40D) for Wi-Fi Only 32GB), the first option was the install drivers. I did that. The 2nd step was to backup the device and I did that with no problems.
The 3rd step was to Unlock the Bootloader (requires Fastboot Mode). When I try to do this, it says that a Fastboot Device was not found.
I am at a loss here as to what to do?
I have some screencaps. I hope this helps.
Ideas?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
simms22 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741395
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TY, this says I need to be able to use "adb and fastboot". That is the problem. I do NOT know anything about fastboot. I turn off my nexus and then hold the volume up and volume down buttons then turn it on. I get a screen that looks like the image I have attached.
However, I do not know what to do from here. I press the volume up and down keys to change "Start" other options, but Fastboot is not one of the options.
Ideas?
You don't have the right drivers installed. When you see the boot loader screen, you should see 'android fast boot interface' or similar in your device manager.
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Unfortunatly no one will help you here, they will just give you links to docs you have already read.
Keep clicking OK a few times, it might find it.
if not, then, press the volume down button until it says reboot bootloader or reboot recovery, sorry i can not remember 100% right now,
press ok a few times more, well keep pressing it and it will find it
adamz2013 said:
Unfortunatly no one will help you here, they will just give you links to docs you have already read.
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You are replying to a post from December 16th. Doubtful that the OP is still waiting on an answer.
Nice pot shot at people that do try to help, though. Either that or an unmet entitlement issue. No one in here is entitled to an answer for anything. Anything you or others provide in response to an inquiry is a gift, plain and simple. The answers might even be completely wrong or crap; but they are still a gift.
If the OP is still waiting, then they should know that all the detail that they showed (screenshots) are immaterial as they were taken with the device booted into the OS (composite ADB + MTP/PTP showing in Device Manager) instead of the mode that was having communication difficulties - fastboot/bootloader mode.
Immaterial information does not imply that the wrong driver is installed for a different operating mode for which similar information was not provided.
Most of the trouble in these types of post are due to the fact that the posters have no clue how WINDOWS drivers are managed/installed/ etc. That has everything to do with WINDOWS and user skills, and almost nothing to do with the device on the other end of the cable.
Having said that, the principal reason there is confusion is due to the following set of circumstances:
- Casual Windows users are "accustomed to" doing a single install of a driver package when they buy a new device. Even when that device might have many logical endpoints across the USB bus. (Think of a multi-function printer - it might have an SD card slot on it, the printer, a scanner function, etc). When that multifunction behavior exists, usually the OEM provides a "driver installer" package which will actually install multiple drivers, depending on the plurality of USB endpoints in the device.
- Unfortunately, if you carefully inspect any of these three driver bundles:
- Google (SDK) USB Driver
- Asus Nexus 7 USB Driver
- XDA "Universal Naked Driver"
you will find that (as shipped) NONE OF THEM will work for all of the following modes of the Nexus 7:
- Fastboot mode
- ADB Mode, OS (Single or Composite)
- ADB Mode, Custom Recovery
- APX Mode
- PTP Mode*
- MTP Mode*
That's right. As shipped NONE OF THEM will handle all of these cases. The "as shipped" part is a reference to the fact that a trivial edit of the "android_winusb.inf" file for any of them will allow a single driver to handle all fastboot and ADB modes.*
* The MTP/PTP drivers are meant to be handled by MS Windows generic class drivers; in the case of Windows XP you might need to install a Windows Media package to get the MTP driver - I'm not sure that it is part of Vanilla XP SP3
So, anyhow - people get confused because they "install the driver" for one mode (usually ADB), and then are surprised when they boot the device into a different mode (fastboot or ADB running under custom recovery) and surprise, surprise - their PC says "unknown device".
My advice?
Install the Asus Nexus 7 Driver for everything but the Custom Recovery ADB mode, and then install the Universal Naked Driver for that.
Or, prior to installation fix up the android_winusb.inf file that comes with the Asus driver so that it also supports
%GoogleNexus7ADBInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_18D1&PID_D001
%GoogleNexus7ADBInterface% = USB_Install, USB\VID_18D1&PID_D001&REV_9999
Then a single driver will support everything but APX, MTP, and PTP. The latter two of which are provided by Mister$oftie, and the first of which is currently of unknown value to Nexus 7 rooters.
cheers
That is actually a nice clear description, worthy of a wikipedia entry Seriously though the driver situation with Android gives me the sh17s sometimes.
juicejuice said:
That is actually a nice clear description, worthy of a wikipedia entry Seriously though the driver situation with Android gives me the sh17s sometimes.
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Neither Linux nor OS/X require any drivers to use either ADB or fastboot.
It's a Windows problem, not an Android problem.
bftb0 said:
Neither Linux nor OS/X require any drivers to use either ADB or fastboot.
It's a Windows problem, not an Android problem.
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I am a Mac user, and I'm having problems with fastboot. My nexus is unlocked, and I'm trying to flash the lastest 5.1 factory image. I was rooted long ago, but really have no need for root, and lost it during one of the OTA's. I'm not a noob by any means, but none of my terminal commands are working, because fastboot has decided to disappear on me. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I can't even get TWRP because I don't have root, and I can't get into fastboot.
Edit.....I'm an idiot....I figured it out. On top of it all, my USB cable sucks too so that didn't help any.

Nexus 6P won't install on any system

My dad has a Nexus 6P.
When he connects it to my Windows 10 PC or his own Windows 10 laptop, nothing appears in Computer (any USB mode on the phone).
Device Manager shows a yellow exclamation mark next to the device.
Trying to reinstall shows that an error occurs whilst installing 'MTP Device' (service installation section in INF invalid).
I have tried installing the standard Android USB drivers, no luck.
I've tried with and without USB debugging mode enabled.
Any ideas?
Is the device having any issues? Like is it boot looping or just dead?
If not, it definitely sounds like a driver issue. Open up your device manager and delete any Google / Android drivers and then reboot the PC. That part is pretty important. PCs can be a little wonky with drivers. After that install them via the method posted in Heisenberg's guide. Reboot the PC again and then try.
Guide Here.
RoyJ said:
Is the device having any issues? Like is it boot looping or just dead?
If not, it definitely sounds like a driver issue. Open up your device manager and delete any Google / Android drivers and then reboot the PC. That part is pretty important. PCs can be a little wonky with drivers. After that install them via the method posted in Heisenberg's guide. Reboot the PC again and then try.
Guide Here.
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There are no drivers to uninstall in Device Manager. If I right-click on the (exclamation mark) device in question, I simply get 'Remove', which 100% doesn't uninstall drivers, presumably because no drivers are installed.
Also, the instructions there require a load of stuff (CMD, platform tools, Android debug bridge and all that rubbish), just to install the drivers. I doubt it's that complicated.
King Mustard said:
There are no drivers to uninstall in Device Manager. If I right-click on the (exclamation mark) device in question, I simply get 'Remove', which 100% doesn't uninstall drivers, presumably because no drivers are installed.
Also, the instructions there require a load of stuff (CMD, platform tools, Android debug bridge and all that rubbish), just to install the drivers. I doubt it's that complicated.
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I've given you the tools to get it up and running, whether you choose to use them is up to you. If you read the guide, you'd see that you don't need to install the entire SDK. It's one of the first things mentioned in the drivers section. Good luck.
Edit: Read your post again. Seems you're a little confused. CMD is a program already on your Windows PC. You must use it in order to use fastboot. Fastboot and ADB are literally the drivers you need to install. Not "rubbish." Read that guide and take it to heart. There's a lot of learning ahead for you, no offense.
King Mustard said:
There are no drivers to uninstall in Device Manager. If I right-click on the (exclamation mark) device in question, I simply get 'Remove', which 100% doesn't uninstall drivers, presumably because no drivers are installed. Also, the instructions there require a load of stuff (CMD, platform tools, Android debug bridge and all that rubbish), just to install the drivers. I doubt it's that complicated.
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Even if you don't wan't or need ADB/Fastboot, a link to the standalone USB drivers is provided in the guide. If you still have issues, an existing driver installation is likely causing the problem. There is a free tool called USBDeview you can use to get rid of the conflicting drivers.
King Mustard said:
My dad has a Nexus 6P.
When he connects it to my Windows 10 PC or his own Windows 10 laptop, nothing appears in Computer (any USB mode on the phone).
Device Manager shows a yellow exclamation mark next to the device.
Trying to reinstall shows that an error occurs whilst installing 'MTP Device' (service installation section in INF invalid).
I have tried installing the standard Android USB drivers, no luck.
I've tried with and without USB debugging mode enabled.
Any ideas?
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If you just want to be able to transfer files back and forth between computer and phone you can try installing Huawei's Windows software which should download necessary drivers. I didn't personally find the software all that useful but it's another option if you aren't looking to do anything complicated with your phone.
http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/HiSuite_en/index.html

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