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lg g3 Stock Official Lollipop Root? (Without installing any rom)

Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.

kitelooper said:
Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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I agree too. I would like to

I Agree.

Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Neontc said:
Eta's are the biggest no-no on this site. These developers do this stuff out of the kindness of their hearts, aside from jobs and families. Asking for a time frame for any sort of development is a huge slap in the face of the devs. With that being said, all you can do is what you said already, go back to kit kat and flash a rooted lollipop rom, and be patient with the devs, as this is not their job.
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Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.

kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Neontc said:
Not sure what you meant by that, but you clearly asked for an eta of a root method. The only way you can have rooted lollipop is to downgrade and flash like you mentioned, and wait patiently for something to come up.
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Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.

kitelooper said:
Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Haha, alright man, good luck.
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kitelooper said:
Hello, i would like to ask the developers on xda if they know aproximate the time Root will be ready on Official Stock Lollipop Lg g3 (NOT lollipop rom).
Your answer can help a lot of followers on xda that wanna keep LG G3 Official lollipop without installing any rom... Lots of ppl just searching and asking about Root on lollipop as it is.
Thx for your answers already.
Keep up the good wrok.
p.s. Plz don't say go back to kitkat root and install rom with lollipop and root --- we ask for the root of the official lollipop, thx.
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No, no one knows the time.
But it's definitely not before G4 is released. If there is a root exploit for LL, it lies in LG's services, and it would most likely apply to all LG phones running 5.0. Releasing something like that before the release of G4 and other 5.0 phones is a bad idea.

kitelooper said:
Read before u answer plz..We already know that so i ask for something else obviously.
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Read before you answer pls
No ETA, period. Bye bye now.

I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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^This!

teddy0209 said:
I don't think there would be further development on root on g3, (same w/ the bootloader) as we have already a working custom recovery... Just my opinion though... [emoji4]
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Gasp! iPhone! Get him!

Root Is Possible!
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).

topet2k12001 said:
Hi Friends,
I am a fairly new owner of a D858HK (dual-SIM) variant of the LG G3. An update to Lollipop came in so I got interested.
Focusing instead on getting root and "bump'd" TWRP (custom recovery), I figured it out through the help of @autoprime and his thread.
I know there are a lot of developers who are able to "tear down" the official Lollipop firmware, pre-root it, and repackage/distribute it, however, the D858HK variant is not as widespread as the D855 so I had very little hopes for custom ROMs. So I documented everything that I have learned through reading the relevant threads, tested it on my LG G3 variant (with 100% success rate), and put up a thread to share it. You can check it here: click me!
I'm interested to know if this will work with other LG G3 variants. If it does, please let me know.
In the meantime, this finding got me interested in learning more. I'll probably start with the easy ones like pre-rooting and repackaging the stock firmware. Who knows, I might eventually progress to where I can modify/create a ROM (that's ambitious, but not impossible).
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Nice guide!
This will work with any phone.
You can easily create a flashable zip and share it for you fellow d856/857/858HK users.
Just take META-INF (updater-script) from robalm's zip, bump boot.img, substitute d855 images with 858 ones, and voila! You have a repacked 858 stock rom.

kitelooper said:
Plz read before you answer.. We asked not to say about Roms and staff..
And ppl dont need axcact date only if it will take 1 to 2 months or 6-year, so is not excact date.
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Well ETA stands for Estimated time of arrival not exact time of arrival so what you are asking for is an eta!! we would all love to get some info on the root for lollipop but keep it cool man. you dont have any developer here on your payroll so if they say don't bother them about ETAs then you better get a glass of tequila and chill out. and hope and pray for ETA. or better still swap your g3 for a nexus.

Root available for LL

You can root. Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3050179
LG-D855 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi

Finally that's very good news

better written guide for lollipop root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/guide-root-method-lg-devices-t3049772

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For LineageOS you can check here!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/dev-cm14-t3509953

Soon I can help.My computer died so haven't gotten to root sorry man. Wish I could help
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kenbrownstone said:
Soon I can help.My computer died so haven't gotten to root sorry man. Wish I could help
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He needs us996 testers right now. He's got me to test for the vs995 ?
Actually there are probably 10 more people with Verizon that would like to test but it seems that not many us996 users are on XDA.

Cool...no problem gotta get my root on..Hope its easy .Been playing with Nexus for a few years and that ish was simple.
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OneDon said:
As the title says I am in need of testers for Lineage OS/CM14.1 that I built from source for the US996, any problems faced with Lineage OS/CM14.1 for the H918 (T-MOBILE) will be same as the US996 (Unlocked). Once I get back solid feedback I'll post this in the development section.
**As for VS995 I am working on it, just got the FW files I needed thanks to @imucarmen**
Prerequisites
- Root
- TWRP (Latest version)
- Knowledge of recovering from bootloops!
DOWNLOAD
BEWARE OF DRAGONS
Credit goes to:
@albinoman887 (Device Tree)
@jcadduono (Root exploit & TWRP)
@Chainfire (Root babyyy!!)
@CyanogenMod/LineageOS
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Ill test it after it downloads.

When I get off work in the morning I should have a vs995 build up for you guys with the vs995 to test.

lingo2012 said:
Ill test it after it downloads.
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Do you have the us996 or vs995?

OneDon said:
Do you have the us996 or vs995?
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Sorry US996 Unlocked

lingo2012 said:
Sorry US996 Unlocked
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No need to be sorry, if your a us996 (unlocked) user you can test you'll most likely get a response out of it. If you're a vs995 (Verizon) user it'll have you in a bootloop. With that being said TEST AWAY! lol

OneDon said:
No need to be sorry, if your a us996 (unlocked) user you can test you'll most likely get a response out of it. If you're a vs995 (Verizon) user it'll have you in a bootloop. With that being said TEST AWAY! lol
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Lol ok ill let you know thank you

I really want to use Lineage on my US996 but I also really like my second screen... :crying:

jeston said:
I really want to use Lineage on my US996 but I also really like my second screen... :crying:
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I feel you on that part... but currently someone is working on the second screen there going deep with it , there going to create or reverse engineer the API for the second screen or something of the sort. I really hope it works out, then the v20 with Lineage OS or stock AOSP would be mint!

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I feel you on that part... but currently someone is working on the second screen there going deep with it , there going to create or reverse engineer the API for the second screen or something of the sort. I really hope it works out, then the v20 with Lineage OS or stock AOSP would be mint!
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That would be amazing!

jeston said:
That would be amazing!
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Ok so i flashed it about 10 mins ago and it didnt boot. All i got was a black screen it would light up then go darker it kept doing that.

lingo2012 said:
Ok so i flashed it about 10 mins ago and it didnt boot. All i got was a black screen it would light up then go darker it kept doing that.
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Same thing that happened to me. I let it run for a while and my phone got really hot as well.

imucarmen said:
Same thing that happened to me. I let it run for a while and my phone got really hot as well.
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I didnt let it run for long but thats not good either

lingo2012 said:
I didnt let it run for long but thats not good either
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Hopefully he sorts it out because I really want to try this ROM. Been jelly of the H918 users getting all the love ?

lingo2012 said:
I didnt let it run for long but thats not good either
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Thank you for testing, I'm uploading a fresh build I just made. Hopefully this one boots!

NEW BUILD
TEST AWAY! BEWARE OF CATS, THOSE MF'S BITE

Vs995 boots!
@OneDon It booted!
Flashed ARM64 7.1 nano gapps and it works. Stock gapps also works.
Wi-Fi works
Time service crashes during setup and it crashed when I changed it to the 24 hour clock but that's it. It doesn't seem to be an issue.
You have the name as the us996. Not important but figured I'd let you know.
Default cam is working but touch to focus doesn't seem to respond. Auto focus was working though.
Substratum is working .... Partially...I just broke it applying more stuff with substratum :[ Not booting now....dirty flash fixed it
Overall this Rom is ready for it's own thread so it gets more attention and more users can test it out.

Can you root the Amazon variant of the Moto G5 plus

Hi, I have the Amazon variant of the Moto g5 plus. Recently I've been trying to root my device and i've kept getting an error when I try to run the first command. Can someone please help because I would really love to root my device.

As far as ik you can't do that.

This has been discussed a lot here, please search or browse first before starting another thread on it. That said, only the 'Standard Version - Without Offers or Ads' Amazon models can have the bootloader unlocked, so either forget root or return yours for a standard model.

Please let me know if you find a way!
Could you please let me know if you find a way around. Thank you!

Jtblade268 said:
Could you please let me know if you find a way around. Thank you!
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there is none

My question is, does one really need to?

monkey3ddd said:
My question is, does one really need to?
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Only you want root or have a custom ROM..
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Could you please explain why this can't be done??
ckret said:
there is none
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Could you please explain why this can't be done??

Jtblade268 said:
Could you please explain why this can't be done??
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ONCE AGAIN!! Because Amazon has a deal with Motorola... Motorola will not give you the code to unlock the bootloader on an Amazon Prime phone. No unlocked bootloader, no root. Period.

Can we flash official images to get updates faster? I am in Antarctica, so our carrier doesn't push through updates.

[ROM] [STOCK] KDZ V30 Nougat 7.0 F600SLK

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uhhh this is T-mobile forum...

Hsinghr said:
uhhh this is T-mobile forum...
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Correct but.... This is applicable to this forum.
Don't flash it in its existing form.!!

Hsinghr said:
uhhh this is T-mobile forum...
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sinner822 said:
Correct but.... This is applicable to this forum.
Don't flash it in its existing form.!!
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True, I know for a fact I can get that running on our T-Mobile H901 Edition...............

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True, I know for a fact I can get that running on our T-Mobile H901 Edition...............
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how can you get it running on h901?
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i can't flash it by using lgup. It says invalid kdz file.

Eliminater74 said:
True, I know for a fact I can get that running on our T-Mobile H901 Edition...............
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Hoping for update of your GREAT rom, Eliminater74!
Thanks

Hsinghr said:
how can you get it running on h901?
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i can't flash it by using lgup. It says invalid kdz file.
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Dont try to flash the kdz, you will brick your device.......................... I never said anything about flashing the kdz................
I learned a long time ago in my G3 days, Kernel deving which I still do for the HTC10 now, but the LG Korean Editions are the same hardware that the T-Mobile Editions use...........
Look on this thread for when I ported the Korean MM rom over before it was released for T-Mobile.......................
When you work with enough kernels like I do, and you should know the kernel is the main part for hardware controlling, you get to understand your device and any device that pertains to it,
The defconfig for the G3 f400 was a perfect match to the defconfig of the G3 D851 -T-Mobile, except F400 had one exra part that didnt make much of a dif........
Out of the 9 variants that LG Put out for the G3 only 1 device came close to the D851 T-Mobile, and that was the f400 Korean edition................
Now do you understand how I know this? Unless LG changed something to keep it from booting on anything other then the intended device, It should boot on our device with the proper extracting and fix
ups.............
Do not flash the KDZ, you will brick your device....................................................... Only 2 parts of that whole KDZ can be used.. and thats boot and system ................
and system has to have some modifications done to it, or playstore will keep crashing.............................
I went though all this on the MM port as well.......... took me 2 days to figure out what it was............................
When I ported the MM over to the T-Mobile Edition, I ran it for 4 days with a few testers, on the 4th day I released it to the public, 45 mins later t-mobile tweeted they are releasing MM that day............
So I know LG/T-Mobile troll this Forum.......... maybe not as much anymore since v20 is surpassed the v10 ..

thank you eliminator for the explanation. i was completely lost and almost bricked my phone.

Could you please mention clearly that flashing KDZ files on DIFFERENT VARIANTS will BRICK DEVICE
It is most important.
THANKS

wait so why was this posted if it cant be used on this specific device??? maybe so someone can make a working version for this device?

Mat441 said:
wait so why was this posted if it cant be used on this specific device??? maybe so someone can make a working version for this device?
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That is why it was posted.
To build a working version.
It is NOT to be used as a finished product.

This is not a rom lol.ive tried booting this using system and boot.of course it didnt work.probably need the 7.0 bootloader too.it doesnt get past lg splash screen.

My kids LG Stylo 2 Plus got Nougat before my V10. Shame

man..... I love the V10 so much I just don't think it got enough public attention to be in enough peoples hands like Devs who could get a bunch of working and stable ROMs. Kinda sad really when this phone is really underrated.

jass65 said:
This is not a rom lol.ive tried booting this using system and boot.of course it didnt work.probably need the 7.0 bootloader too.it doesnt get past lg splash screen.
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I clearly said other things needed to be done for it to work.. you dont need any 7.0 bootloader.. you really think much changes from bootloader 2 bootloader?
not to mention you have to have the correct version............ I only tested 1 of the Korean roms to prove it works on our device.......
I have thought about messing with this.. but I have no desire really to do it...............
I am busy with my other projects................

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I clearly said other things needed to be done for it to work.. you dont need any 7.0 bootloader.. you really think much changes from bootloader 2 bootloader?
not to mention you have to have the correct version............ I only tested 1 of the Korean roms to prove it works on our device.......
I have thought about messing with this.. but I have no desire really to do it...............
I am busy with my other projects................
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I know you are busy with other projects but can you give me a few tools to use to try and convert this to a flash able Rom? I'm willing to take the dive just unsure what tools I need

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I clearly said other things needed to be done for it to work.. you dont need any 7.0 bootloader.. you really think much changes from bootloader 2 bootloader?
not to mention you have to have the correct version............ I only tested 1 of the Korean roms to prove it works on our device.......
I have thought about messing with this.. but I have no desire really to do it...............
I am busy with my other projects................
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how can we motivate you to work on this device?

I was able to make a flash able zip from the f600k but it just loops at the bootloader so I'm gonna try the other two tomorrow

No one needs to hack on this. In a few months time the builds for our versions of the V10 will be released and then hopefully we can use dirty cow to root them the same as we did marshmallow.

johnwayne007 said:
I was able to make a flash able zip from the f600k but it just loops at the bootloader so I'm gonna try the other two tomorrow
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LOOKING FORWARD!!!! :fingers-crossed:

Don't try to root Nougat from Android Infotech website!

Hi all,
I receive a lot of private messages about root for Nougat from this website:
http://www.androidinfotech.com/2017/06/root-sony-xperia-xa-ultra-nougat.html
DON'T CLIC ON IT, IT'S A CLICBAIT!
I never released anything for Nougat so please don't ask me why it doesn't work, it's only a scam to win money from ads.
If you can't find my work on Xda you will not find it anywhere.

Is there now for root this phone with nougat?

Araxielfenix said:
Is there now for root this phone with nougat?
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No root on Nougat for now.

rrvuhpg said:
No root on Nougat for now.
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...even after unlocked bootloader?

mingkee said:
...even after unlocked bootloader?
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Hi, technically root is possible, I have it but not released to the public. Why? Because nobody supported my work and as you can see my root guide have only 29 thanks. You will have to wait for a release from an other user or maybe if my guide reaches 100 thanks (don't count on it).

Damn...
I had TA dumped the day I got it and I am ready to root it.
Well, I have to return it because there no root on 7

mingkee said:
Damn...
I had TA dumped the day I got it and I am ready to root it.
Well, I have to return it because there no root on 7
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DRM fix with TA dump doesn't work on Nougat, bootloop at Sony logo (tested on XA Ultra)
The only good news it that SafetyNet is OK with Magisk Manager app v5.0.4 and zip v13.1 on Nougat.

rrvuhpg said:
Hi, technically root is possible, I have it but not released to the public. Why? Because nobody supported my work and as you can see my root guide have only 29 thanks. You will have to wait for a release from an other user or maybe if my guide reaches 100 thanks (don't count on it).
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Hey, could you at least guide me on how to proceed ?
I would be grateful

Yooooomi said:
Hey, could you at least guide me on how to proceed ?
I would be grateful
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You would be grateful by thanking me for my guide and my work on MM but you didn't do it.
I will give you a very good link to help you on how to proceed: www.google.com

rrvuhpg said:
You would be grateful by thanking me for my guide and my work on MM but you didn't do it.
I will give you a very good link to help you on how to proceed: www.google.com
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Ow ok I'm going to thank you for your guide if you want, I didn't mean any offense you seem a bit nervous ^^'
Which guide are you talking about ?
Nb: I really do appreciate your work btw

Yooooomi said:
Ow ok I'm going to thank you for your guide if you want, I didn't mean any offense you seem a bit nervous ^^'
Which guide are you talking about ?
Nb: I really do appreciate your work btw
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I'm not nervous but politeness is a minimum when someone spend some time for you, it's not normal to ask for any thank. I talk about my root guide (and root files). I was silly to think this, now I learned a good lesson: work for yourself and you will not have to wait for any thank.

rrvuhpg said:
I'm not nervous but politeness is a minimum when someone spend some time for you, it's not normal to ask for any thank. I talk about my root guide (and root files). I was silly to think this, now I learned a good lesson: work for yourself and you will not have to wait for any thank.
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I'm not used to thank on xda to be honest but I will , now if you are not willing to help me that's no big deal I can understand

I think most of us who benefited yur work are mostly newbees like myself.. We apologize. I didn't know yu had to give thanks when yu like someones works.. Sorry

I think the OP gave me a bad idea to go back to 6.0.
Now the phone is bricked.

mingkee said:
I think the OP gave me a bad idea to go back to 6.0.
Now the phone is bricked.
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Me ? I never said to go back to 6.0. Maybe it's your fault because you forgot to exclude TA parts of the firmware or you didn't used the fsc script or you used an old version of Flashtool? I downgraded/flashed my devices many times and never got any problems.

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Me ? I never said to go back to 6.0. Maybe it's your fault because you forgot to exclude TA parts of the firmware or you didn't used the fsc script or you used an old version of Flashtool? I downgraded/flashed my devices many times and never got any problems.
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Agreed. I rolled back to 6.0 2 times without problems. Btw. I have a spare Z1 and I accidentally flashed those .ta files but they did no harm. I think they are useless even when flashed.

BlueTR said:
Agreed. I rolled back to 6.0 2 times without problems. Btw. I have a spare Z1 and I accidentally flashed those .ta files but they did no harm. I think they are useless even when flashed.
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I successfully flashed to 6.0 (.160), but after I flashed your kernel from dev section and it has bootloop problem (from either rootpack or individual). Should I flash to earlier version? My choice is
Customized LAM (.182, 7.0)
Customized US (.182, 7.0)
Customized Peru (.160, 6.0)
Service Exchange Unit (.111, 6.0)
Please continue your work, and I always give thanks once I found it's working.
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I sucessfully flashed to Service Exchange Unit (.111, 6.0) and everything worked as it's supposed to be, and rooted with SuperSU (but I will move to Magisk in the future)

mingkee said:
I successfully flashed to 6.0 (.160), but after I flashed your kernel from dev section and it has bootloop problem (from either rootpack or individual). Should I flash to earlier version? My choice is
Customized LAM (.182, 7.0)
Customized US (.182, 7.0)
Customized Peru (.160, 6.0)
Service Exchange Unit (.111, 6.0)
Please continue your work, and I always give thanks once I found it's working.
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I sucessfully flashed to Service Exchange Unit (.111, 6.0) and everything worked as it's supposed to be, and rooted with SuperSU (but I will move to Magisk in the future)
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You quoted wrong person. If you flash an older kernel over a new firmware, you get bootloop. I had that too.

I really wish I could do such coding to compile both boot and recovery because XA Ultra is really awesome, but you have to catch up with version.

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bizzygang said:
I didn't know yu had to give thanks when yu like someones works.. Sorry
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Yeah, that's really unusual.