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So I ordered my 16gb Note 10.1 last week and went and picked it up yesterday afternoon. I opened the box at the store to check the "body" of the device to make sure it wasn't split along the sides and no odd creaking or anything. Everything looked good.
I get it home and discover that there's no S-Pen. It's not in the box, not in the back of the device, nowhere to be found.
The unit shipped directly from Samsung. I called the store and they said I could return it, and they'd order another one if I wanted or I could have my money back. The other option was that I could call Samsung directly and give them the low down and have them send me another S-Pen.
I chose to call Samsung and they apologized and said they'd send out an S-Pen right away. Sounds good, except that it's going to take 7 - 14 working days to arrive! Really?!?!?!
I specifically bought the Note 10.1 FOR the S-Pen and note taking capabilities. I am involved with multiple activities (my job included) that require me to take notes. This is a significant problem for me.
Yes, I know I can just buy a stylus and wait it out but it irritates me that the unit got shipped without one of the "selling-points" of the product. I understand they can't QA every single unit but come on, a CORE part of the device not being included? Really?!
Okay, I'm done ranting now.
I really like the unit and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, ONCE I get the S-Pen!
Buzz
You are missing the whole thing. lol it is all about the S-Pen.
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So I ordered my 16gb Note 10.1 last week and went and picked it up yesterday afternoon. I opened the box at the store to check the "body" of the device to make sure it wasn't split along the sides and no odd creaking or anything. Everything looked good.
I get it home and discover that there's no S-Pen. It's not in the box, not in the back of the device, nowhere to be found.
The unit shipped directly from Samsung. I called the store and they said I could return it, and they'd order another one if I wanted or I could have my money back. The other option was that I could call Samsung directly and give them the low down and have them send me another S-Pen.
I chose to call Samsung and they apologized and said they'd send out an S-Pen right away. Sounds good, except that it's going to take 7 - 14 working days to arrive! Really?!?!?!
I specifically bought the Note 10.1 FOR the S-Pen and note taking capabilities. I am involved with multiple activities (my job included) that require me to take notes. This is a significant problem for me.
Yes, I know I can just buy a stylus and wait it out but it irritates me that the unit got shipped without one of the "selling-points" of the product. I understand they can't QA every single unit but come on, a CORE part of the device not being included? Really?!
Okay, I'm done ranting now.
I really like the unit and I'm sure I'll enjoy it, ONCE I get the S-Pen!
Buzz
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So I'm curious. If your job and activities require all this what we're you doing before you got your note? Under performing?
Not saying it's not messed up you didn't get a pen, but if you've been doing your all your job functions and activities for X time before you had a note I'm sure you'll survive another 5-7 days.
I got a note that when I pulled the pen out the little plastic tension piece inside the slot came out and then the pen would fall out if it was in the holder. Shoulda made Samsung ship it overnight.
Well THAT would irritate me too, since it´s not a 299.- $ device.
Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass QC.
I bought 1 SII, two SIII, 1 Note, 2 Note 10.1´s and they came all PERFECT, no broken seals, no creaking, no scratches, mechanically and by the hardware in perfect function and no faults by the software (never ever had one single firmware related crash or update probs out of the box with no single Sammy device)
In mobile electronics a defect rate of 5% or below is considered outstanding performance. The missing S-Pen is bad QC as it obviously shouldn't have shipped without it. But to put it in perspective, Samsung's sold 30MM SGS3's so it would be excellent if no more than 1.5MM had a defect. Someone who got one of the 1.5MM probably would disagree.
Is it a HUGE deal? No. Is it going to prevent me from doing my job? No. I can use pen & paper like I've been doing or I can go buy a 3rd party stylus. It's more of a convenience thing AND the fact that it SHOULD have been packaged with it. By my counting on / planning on / looking forward to being able to use the device, it just made it more of an irritation.
I completely agree that 5% being "jacked up" (hardware, software, defects, missing parts, etc) is acceptable. It would have just been better if someone else experienced the 5%.
As for Samsung products in general, never had an issue with them before. Home theater equipment, cell phones, etc.
Sorry, you're within the 5%.
The opinion that Samsung is solid in all their mobile devices is not correct at all. I also have a Samsung 7 Series slate and this thing came with its screen lifted big time as soon as I took it from the box. Getting it fixed by them was a [email protected], and this was not an isolated case. If you go to TabletPCReview.com, you'll notice that around 35% of all these slates came with the screen defected. I was in that big margin.
Being inside an even smaller margin should feel really crappy...
Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen, so if you have one for any other tablet or convertible then that should work flawlessly. It will no feel as nice as the one that comes with the tablet (as this one has a rubber tip and all others I know come with a hard one) but it should work the same way.
Ron
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Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen
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There's another solution. Many Best Buy stores stock the replacment pen. You can buy one there and keep it as a spare or return it when your missing one arrives.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Samsung...p03-14?id=1218734648372&skuId=6329995&st=note 10.1 stylus&cp=1&lp=1
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Now, for a solution, these tablets work with any WACOM pen, so if you have one for any other tablet or convertible then that should work flawlessly. It will no feel as nice as the one that comes with the tablet (as this one has a rubber tip and all others I know come with a hard one) but it should work the same way.
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That is incorrect. There may be some Wacom pens which work with the GNote 10.1 but not all. I have an Intuos 3 and the pen for it will not work on my GNote 10.1 it has no effect what so ever. With that said you can use your finger. It is surprising how presice you can be on the GNote 10.1 with your finger.
Yeah, if there was a big hole on the bottom right of my tablet where the s-pen is stored, I'd be annoyed too.
sadly, it's all academic now... my kayscase flip case really doesn't allow me to get to it, muchless see it.
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That is incorrect. There may be some Wacom pens which work with the GNote 10.1 but not all. I have an Intuos 3 and the pen for it will not work on my GNote 10.1 it has no effect what so ever. With that said you can use your finger. It is surprising how presice you can be on the GNote 10.1 with your finger.
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I've heard indeed of some intuos and bamboo series pens not working on WACOM enabled screens. But I was referring to those that come with other tablets or convertible PCs. I've heard around that the intuos 5 pens work. I have a lil babmoo touch tablet and it doesn't work at all too.
In my last two weeks of ownership I've probably only used the pen less than 10 minutes and still love the tablet!
troed said:
well that would irritate me too, since it´s not a 299.- $ device.
Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass qc.
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what faults?
troed said:
Even if they sell 20 million devices no single one with faults should pass QC.
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Get a grip. That doesn't exist for any product manufactured anywhere.
Bought one of these the other day, hoping to modify the bracket to fit, however to my surprise if you have the genuine slide cover you can fold it such a way it actually holds and works with no modding!! the silver plastic bar does flex but easily returns to its straight form when taken off. Only downside is you couldn't hold it for ages it is heavy.
just an idea
can you use it the over way around, so that the silver bar is on top and not gets pushed like this?
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can you use it the over way around, so that the silver bar is on top and not gets pushed like this?
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afraid not as the position makes the screen hang over the joy pad. you could adjust the pad so it grips more of the front bezel that would solve it. Hasn't done any damage to this one.
Interesting.
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Is that the g910 gamepad? I tried that one and while it seemed nice for the price, it was a pain to connect for me. Many times I had to reboot the tablet, and the controller, turn bluetooth off and on, just to get them to talk to each other. I sent it back and bought a moga power pro. It works very well.
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Is that the g910 gamepad? I tried that one and while it seemed nice for the price, it was a pain to connect for me. Many times I had to reboot the tablet, and the controller, turn bluetooth off and on, just to get them to talk to each other. I sent it back and bought a moga power pro. It works very well.
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Yes it is, just wanted something cheap as they get knocked about anyway. Looks like they updated it as the D pad is not the standard XBOX360 one anymore, it connected straight away with dead trigger and nova. I am guessing build quality and battery life is nowhere near a moga, cheap though.
Ya, I really wanted to like mine. It overall worked ok, I updated the firmware and did everything by the book, but any time I would turn it off, then try to use it later, I had to jump through hoops most of the time to get it to work.
I first ordered it straight from geekbuying for $27 or so, but after a month and a half waiting, I finally canceled that order and picked it up from Amazon, also from geekbuying, but out of Amazon's warehouse. I paid about $32 or so that time. When I decided it wasn't good enough really, I found the moga power pro (newest one) on Amazon's marketplace for $50 I figured it was only about $17 more to get the real thing.
Overall I don't regret sending the g910 back and getting the moga. It has worked flawlessly so far. Plus the app is pretty nice too.
I hope it works out for you, the reviews were really good, that is why I went with that one first.
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Although using the cover case folded as a means to grip the tegra worked, it wasn't very secure and could easily flip forward. So I opened up the game controller, changed the analog sticks as my dog manage to chew one off. In doing so I was able to look at the mechanism for the phone grip part, the arm is far too short to allow a 7inch tablet, however using an old piece of plastic, cutting it down to length and adapting it to extend the original arm it is possible now to fit the tegra securely with or without the case cover, the spring loaded grip works just as well as the original.
I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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So what was your experience with this?
I'm wondering should i just buy one for my note 3 or make a bigger one,
The problem with bigger one is i don't know if the lens position and/or focal length need to be changed.
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So what was your experience with this?
I'm wondering should i just buy one for my note 3 or make a bigger one,
The problem with bigger one is i don't know if the lens position and/or focal length need to be changed.
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I'm kind of interested in this for my Note 3 too. Here's one for $8.99 if you want to try it: http://www.focalprice.com/MX0124X/G...ium=EM&utm_campaign=DM_1432ZT_3Dglass_MX0124X
My "unofficial" cardboard unit arrived today. I had to modify the front to accommodate the Note 3's extra width. It works ok, but the volume controls are constantly getting (accidentally) pushed when you hold your thumbs anywhere near where the phone is. Same can be said about the power button on the top.
The camera is completely covered by the cardboard itself, because the oval-shaped hole assumes a shorter phone.
I'm running Alliance Rom and the PhotoSphere app doesn't work (it FC's). Other than that, the only other comment I can make is that the phone gets pretty warm while it's running the VR stuff. Takes quite a bit of power, because the battery drops quickly too.
All in all, it is a fun little toy. I look forward to other applications being created. OBTW, a lot of the compatible apps from the play store, require a Bluetooth controller. to function. Lucily I have a Bluetooth mini keyboard that has a d-pad style controller. This combination works ok.
I think I will wait to try VR when I can Full Dive... the current versions just make me motion sick.
Posted here because I am interested in how it turns out for you guys.
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I know it isn't compatible with my Note 3 due to size constraints, but I ordered one anyway - I think I have an S4 laying around somewhere. I'm wondering who has used it with their Note 3 and what their experience was.
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Its weird that it doesn't fit.
Cause currently there's that (worst to best) that Android VR Headset dubbed "Gameface", followed by Samsung's attempts with Gear VR, then there's SONY's Project Morpheus and finally the "king" Oculus Rift.
Its weird because out of all those millions (billions?) of dollars spent in development, the Oculus Rift comes out on top... and that VR uses the NOTE 3's display.
Literally. They've cut out the N3's screen, and slapped it on goggles with a pair of lens.
I want to try out Cardboard but I'm worried the initial bad experience might deter me from VR experience for good (remember VirtualBoy?). I might hold out for O/R's consumer product.
We'll see in the future when it gets mainstream; I'd expect it to ship for ~$399 and use a SAMOLED+ screen of roughly 6inch size and 4K resolution.
(Following the OR development, they're converging towards the 6in size and want to get as high resolution as possible. 4K is possible, and will be cheap in the near future. 4K allows easier development for applications too. OLED is best, but too costly at the moment. SAMOLED+ panels seems to be the better in terms of refresh rates and battery life than IPS, despite costing a little more than IPS. IPS has better brightness too, but that's moot. Oculus Rift has always aimed at quality and affordability so I couldn't expect it cheaper than $249 and wouldn't expect it higher than $500. So $399 seems like a "sweet spot" for mass manufacturing. Unless Facebook ruins it).
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My "unofficial" cardboard unit arrived today. I had to modify the front to accommodate the Note 3's extra width. It works ok, but the volume controls are constantly getting (accidentally) pushed when you hold your thumbs anywhere near where the phone is. Same can be said about the power button on the top.
The camera is completely covered by the cardboard itself, because the oval-shaped hole assumes a shorter phone.
I'm running Alliance Rom and the PhotoSphere app doesn't work (it FC's). Other than that, the only other comment I can make is that the phone gets pretty warm while it's running the VR stuff. Takes quite a bit of power, because the battery drops quickly too.
All in all, it is a fun little toy. I look forward to other applications being created. OBTW, a lot of the compatible apps from the play store, require a Bluetooth controller. to function. Lucily I have a Bluetooth mini keyboard that has a d-pad style controller. This combination works ok.
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So from what I understand, you can make it all work with relative ease. I may order this. I use an otterbox case, which adds to the bulk. Hopefully I don't have to buy a smaller phone just to enjoy VR.
Unofficial Cardboard large
Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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i ordered one of the large ones from unofficialcardboard. com yesterday. ill update once i receive it.
i purchased one of the VR kits from dodocase.com and i did fit my Note 3 in it but it produces blury, out of focus and ghosting images. i modded my case so that my power and volume buttons wouldn't be pressed during use by cutting slots on the flap for them. once i tried the VR headset with my brother's S5 i saw the difference... and it was a big difference! everything was perfectly focused and im hoping this bigger VR headset will provide the same with the Note 3
ordered one
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Ok, just noticed this on the UnofficialCardboard website
https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/product/large-unassembled-diy-die-cut-kit-w-nfc/
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Its seems they finally made one for larger phones. Not all the details are on the site yet(like what phones are compatible) but am very tempted to order one right away
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So
I ordered the larger one for my note 3 which I keep in an otterbox I'll update with initial impressions
I ordered a DodoCase version and it arrived today. I wasn't sure how it would work with my Note 3, but it works pretty well. The screen is almost exactly the size of the opening and so gives more viewing screen than smaller phones would.
I made three minor modifications to it. One was a cutout on the top to allow me to access the power button. Another, similar cutout (this time I only cut three sides and secured it loosely with tape) to relieve the pressure on the volume button and allow me to change the volume. The third was a minor enlargement of the camera hole to allow the camera lens full access. All three cuts are about 1/4 inch deep and the width of the needed buttons/camera, very minor, and very effective.
I haven't had a LOT of time to play with it yet, but it works very well. I look forward to comparing it to my wife's S5 when she gets home.
Oh, I had some double sided velcro around and found that strip of that will hold it to my head quite well too. So far I haven't decided how to attach the velcro, but it works just wrapped around the cardboard and my head.
All things considered, I am very pleased with the way it works with my Note 3!
I decided I didn't want to use my Note 3 for this as it wasn't on the 'official' supported list. I picked up a Moto X used in nice shape and a very good price just to try this out. Got the cardboard kit today and tried it out. Very impressive but the phone does get quite warm in just a few minutes. Androsens was saying it was at 101 degrees F and battery was at 104 degrees F which is higher by far than it normally gets. The warmth was quite noticeable when I pulled the phone back out of the VR kit. I think battery use runs fairly high with this too. Overall I don't think I'd want to run it for long periods and definitely not with my Note 3 (although it might have enough more horsepower that it wouldn't warm up ? )
I saw one of the choices in the cardboard app is Youtube. Does anyone know if the youtubes showing in that are done special for the 3D or are they just normal Youtubes? I saw one that had been on CNN news this morning of a turtle chasing an RC car. It had some dimension to it but you couldn't pan around in that like you can with the other built in apps so I tend to think it's just a normal Youtube.
I just tried the carboard VR kit now with the Samsung Galaxy S3 and it sort of works except the magnet doesn't work to select items so you have to open the box and tap them to select. This phone also got very warm with just a few minutes use. My phones normally run in the low 80's F but running this they are hitting 99-104 degrees F. Be careful not to fry your phones ! It must max out the CPU speed and voltage to run the 3D stuff. Impressive to get a taste of VR but I'm not sure a most phones could take the heat for running long term. Also the Galaxy S3 doesn't play the Windy Day as this is specific for Motorola and the Moto X.
Can't we just somehow disable all hardware buttons on the Note 3? Disable volume keys, disable power button?
I bought a DodoCase, the phone fits JUST JUST right, but of course all the buttons are pressed, lol. I have a rooted phone running custom roms along with xposed... I'm sure there is a setting somewhere to disable them?
hello,
Someone could he give me a map unofficial model (largest to Note 3) Please?
I bought the normal model but it's too galley (I recovered the lenses above)
Unofficial Cardboard large *update*
So I got the Unofficial cardboard large for my Note 3.
The phone fits perfectly into the unit.
As someone mentioned before, the HW buttons do get pressed sometimes but its possible to make cutouts to prevent this/get access to the buttons.
Don't know if its due to the lack of lens adjustment in the cardboard design, but individual pixels are a lot more visible then I have expected, given the 1080p Note 3 display.
All in all I think it was money well spent. Got a nice preview of what this VR hype is all about
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So I got the Unofficial cardboard large for my Note 3.
The phone fits perfectly into the unit.
As someone mentioned before, the HW buttons do get pressed sometimes but its possible to make cutouts to prevent this/get access to the buttons.
Don't know if its due to the lack of lens adjustment in the cardboard design, but individual pixels are a lot more visible then I have expected, given the 1080p Note 3 display.
All in all I think it was money well spent. Got a nice preview of what this VR hype is all about
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Where did you get yours from?
How much did it set you back?
International postage?
....I'm also wanting to get this just to try it, see what VR is like.
Kangal said:
Where did you get yours from?
How much did it set you back?
International postage?
....I'm also wanting to get this just to try it, see what VR is like.
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https://www.unofficialcardboard.com/products/unassembled-kits/unassembled-uc-large-w-nfc/
$20 + $10(flat international rate for the unassembled version)
I bought the large Google cardboard from eBay for $16.99 with the nfc tag (I would get the one without the tag though). My 7 year old son loves it. I think it's pretty cool as well but most of the apps have drift issue (or its the phone). I also use a PS3 controller and it seems that the controller isn't set up for most of the apps... The joystick works but the buttons don't.
I have only had it for 4 days and I will continue playing with it. I can keep posting with my experiences and app opinions if you want. Ank any questions about it and I will answer them to the best of my knowledge.
Obviously for cardboard I can't expect some amazing VR but, most of the youtube videos show users pretty immersed in it. How is the immersion? ie: roller coaster effect?
Does anyone know if i can make/buy a Cardboard-like vr thing for the note 4? I believe that the gear vr will not be released anytime soon.
I've got a Google cardboard from when I had a Samsung galaxy s5 but the note 4 is too big to fit properly...
So if you buy or make one make sure it's bigger than the generic one so the note 4 will fit.
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Does anyone know if i can make/buy a Cardboard-like vr thing for the note 4? I believe that the gear vr will not be released anytime soon.
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Better late than never
Note 4 doesn't fit well in Google Cardboard but is possible to use , just be sure to give it few more rubbers to not loose your Note4.
There's also available unofficial XL version, but it's much expensive, there's a lot similar devices like : SmartBox3D, Durovis Dive, Stooksy
Use VR player for dedicated VR SBS movies, but remove magnets before this. Effects are stunning. :laugh:
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Does anyone know if i can make/buy a Cardboard-like vr thing for the note 4? I believe that the gear vr will not be released anytime soon.
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Sorry, are you referring to a consumer edition of the Gear VR? Because the Gear VR Innovator Edition has already been released, it's been on sale since Dec. 8th for $200... Apparently it is completely possible to use any Google Cardboard VR apps with it as well, you just need to block the Oculus Home app from launching. There's a thread about it somewhere on this site, can't remember where but just search.
3D VR Glasses overview and demonstration: https://youtu.be/nEALrvhDfIU
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I've got a Google cardboard from when I had a Samsung galaxy s5 but the note 4 is too big to fit properly...
So if you buy or make one make sure it's bigger than the generic one so the note 4 will fit.
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I have this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/251766752348
fits the note 4 perfectly, without any cases.
One problem is that, it doesn't have any magnetic switch. I sometimes use a piece of neodymium magnet salvaged from a hard drive as a substitute.
In case you were still curious about this Google has made a new version of their cardboard that will support the larger phones. I use a version of the original that I modified the dimensions on to fit my Note 2 and it works great with my Note 4. I just found out though that the magnetic sensor is in a different spot.
On the original cardboard layout the magnet is closer to the top (upper right of the phone when laid top side to the left) and on the Note 2 it worked fine. It didn't work with the Note 4. I moved the magnet across the top of the phone and it triggers right in the middle in line with the camera. I moved the magnet in my cardboard to rest in the middle and it works perfectly.
http://www.imcardboard.com/giant-version-eva-in-black-vr-kit-with-nfc.html
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Could you please send me a pic of your magnet mod on the note 4
I cannot get mine to work.
My email is [email protected]
Thanks
Norm
I made a video that I'll upload to youtube "later." I intend to trim it down to the essentials because I believe one absolutely has to make these kinds of videos SUCCINCT and not yammer on for 3/4 of the video about one's life story.
However, the title and the pictures attached really speak for themselves... and I can bore you with my life story here
I heard Samsung was releasing a new Gear VR to fit the Note 8 on this video here https://youtu.be/tR2X0T_3l6o and instead of plopping down $130 for a new Gear VR, I vowed to attack my current 2016 Gear VR (which was FREE with my Galaxy S7) with my trusty dremel.
Samsung sets our pants on fire, comes back with a mediocre S8+ upgrade for ludicrous cost, and then tries to sell us a new Gear VR for $130?
Samsung, I assure you that we certainly are suckers, but we are not made of money.
I received my preordered Note 8 yesterday.
As these kinds of things are best done without the caffeine jitters from my morning coffee, I had to go at it early... and most importantly, before I had been awake long enough to come to my senses about what I had planned.
Planning: Simply consisted of measuring out a piece of cardboard based on the latest measurements reported, then sticking that on my Gear VR to see where I'd need to cut. I also researched where the sensitive electronic bits and pieces were.
Execution: I had crudely used a box cutter to make a basic outline with the actual note 8 in it with the USB C connector the 2016 Gear VR came with for the Note 7. I then taped up what I could to prevent bits of melted plastic dust from getting everywhere, then went to town on it with my dremel.
It works great, but you can kind of see a little sliver of the right eye's image in the far corner of your left eye.
It won't win any beauty pageants, but I'd say she's a keeper
since there are now two galaxy note 8 devices (the tablet and now the new phone), i'm going to leave this here
KRAPPA! We need mods to automatically move Note 8 or filter Note 8 threads in the Note 8.0 discussion area. Like all wee need is Note 8 firmware to brick Note 8.0 devices or incompatible mods to be given out in this area.
I can care less about Note 8 devices, especially here.