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I've used a few solutions that stream your MP3's to your phone. but none of them seem to have a feature im looking for. All i want to do is be able to randomly play the entire collection. I've tried subsonic, but it downloads everything to the actual phone which is annoying. mecanto can't play everything at once, even with a playlist and its missing a search function if i wanna play something specific. I used to use Orb with some play on my touch pro i forgot, that worked kinda well except it buffered like a mofo. Any other suggestions out there? I was thinking of setting up an ampache server but i'd need to learn how to setup a server first >.>
Try using Homepipe, download the app free from market then go to the website on your computer and you just add what folders you want to share. After doing that you can stream mp3s, and download videos or other files to your phone and vice versa. It takes like 5 minutes to setup
I, like most people, have a large music collection which goes beyond the onboard memory of a nexus 4.
It's clear that google is trying to push people into using their cloud services which is fine, as long as it works. Now I live in the UK and in my experience 3G coverage is good, and i'm lucky to be on the unlimited Three network which offers very generous data speeds.
Does anyone here rely on the play music service and does it do a good job? Do songs load up fast? Is it going to turn listening to music into a very battery intensive experience?
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After you upload your music to the cloud, streaming is relatively painless. I'm on T-Mobile HSPA+ and its pretty much instantaneous. I'd still prefer a UI like Winamp, but I can deal with Google Music's. Also regarding battery life, of course it would take a hit as you're streaming mobile data, it seems to drain the same amount of battery as when i use Spotify on my S3. As for the N4, who knows
I'm curious about this. Wouldn't you need unlimited data for Google music?
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I'm in the UK too and I use Spotify for all my needs. You can combine your music collection with theirs, and easily change which albums are synced from your desktop/laptop to the pc for offline use. All of the Spotify music collection is also available for streaming use.
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I'm curious about this. Wouldn't you need unlimited data for Google music?
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Unlimited data would be great for it but not entirely necessary. I had high quality streaming on for about 2 weeks and used up just over 3 gb of data, and I'd say I did a fair bit of listening, probably at least an hour a day if not more. I'm trying turning off the high quality streaming now as I only have 6 gb of data, so far it seems to use a little less. Streaming is seamless though, even when I have only 1 or 2 bars of signal. it may take about 5 seconds or so for the song to start playing if you skip a couple songs (if you let it play the next planned song it usually does'nt take time to load as it already starts buffering before the previous song is finished).
Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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I have unlimited data so I'm a heavy Google Music user, I haven't had any issues with album art. Also if I know I'm gonna be in an area where service is terrible I just cache a playlist.
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Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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Delete your app data. That usually clears up the album art issue.
3G ain't fast enough in the UK to stream music. And that's before we even get onto the data caps...
I might have to up my data and finally do this.
If your data plan allows it (as in, you have unlimited) then Google Music is a great replacement for onboard storage. Even without an unlimited plan it makes it much easier to swap out albums on-the-fly when you're connected to WiFi.
My brother and I use Play Music more and more. On AT&T LTE I can stream music in high quality without any trouble. I got the 8GB Nexus so I am going to try to use it more and more.
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Not for me. For some reason I ALWAYS get the wrong album art. It's always the same album cover for almost every mp3. It drives me nuts. After checking Google's bug pages, it's been a known problem for months, but no ones looked at it. Annoying.
Itunes Match has been absolutely perfect for me since day 1.
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You know you can correct that using the website right?
Google Music has been painless for me with the exception of the missing artwork and some tags not transferring.
Spent about 20 minutes on the website fixing it all and now all 18,000 songs are at my disposal regardless of device or local storage space.
Now if Google could do this with personal videos (no not broadcast to the world like YouTube.)
I just uploaded like 200+ songs to my Google Music storage. If anything, it is really convenient Although the 200+ songs I uploaded were .flac, and if I read right, all .flac audio higher then 320kbps, will be re-encoded to that. Can't say I hear a difference in sound quality at all though...
Songs will store on your device's storage as "cache" as you play them (depending on cache settings anyway). If you don't have unlimited data, you could possibly just let songs cache to your device via WiFi.
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I just uploaded like 200+ songs to my Google Music storage. If anything, it is really convenient Although the 200+ songs I uploaded were .flac, and if I read right, all .flac audio higher then 320kbps, will be re-encoded to that. Can't say I hear a difference in sound quality at all though...
Songs will store on your device's storage as "cache" as you play them (depending on cache settings anyway). If you don't have unlimited data, you could possibly just let songs cache to your device via WiFi.
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This is exactly what I've been doing since I got the Galaxy Nexus. I had a bunch of music on an sdcard prior to getting the nexus so instead of dragging and dropping everything from my SDCard to my Galaxy Nexus every time I would flash another rom or get a new phone, I'd cache the music from Google Music. This is what I plan on doing with the Nexus 4. Haven't had a problem since using it full time a year ago.
Google Music works really well. It caches the most played songs and tends to cycle songs as you play them. I my current cache is 2 GB and I have uploaded hundreds of songs. I don't think it hits battery that much as Web browsing tends to be more of a drain due to the screen and processing the page. Here we are just retrieving a music file to play. I have the 2.0GB on tmobile and on the first month I got close to the cap but every month after that I was fine. You should cache some albums or artists over wifi if you are sure you will listen to them.
You could essentially have your entire collection on hand without the need for actual space. It's not like you will listen to everything that you will need it on your device but that you will eventually listen to it and that's where Google Music shines.
Also you will be able to log in on any computer and have your music collection ready to play.
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Definite yes. The music manager on the PC seemlessly monitors your music folder and will upload any new files when added to the folder. Source of these files doesn't matter, legal or otherwise. The App experience on the phone itself gets the job done. You aren't going to find as many options for sound processing as you would from say Poweramp, but the convenience of cloud based music outweighs the features you give up. The play music app will mature with time as well, it gets better every update.
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Definite yes. The music manager on the PC seemlessly monitors your music folder and will upload any new files when added to the folder.
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Indeed. If you are planning on uploading music though, I might suggest properly tagging it with correct Artist, Album, and Naming, just so it looks good (and I think Google can grab song art based on those values)
I like it. It's worked perfectly for me. If you know you have a few tracks you like to hear often.. Click make available offline for the times you don't have reception. Seem less for me
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I hate the Google Music app. The uploader also sucks, very very slow and you have to use a crappy website to manage things.
I could deal with the crappy uploader if we could use the library with other apps but for some reason Google wont make it open source. The Google Music app just sucks, unpolished hard to use UI and makes a mess of ID3 tags. Its one of those half assed Google projects that they started but wont finish.
If you dont care much about the player or dont know what youre missing since you havent used better then its a good option, but if you need a really simple and easy to use player because you only use it while doing other things and dont have time to deal with bad UI design then its not an option.
I have search the forums and not found what I'm looking for so I will start a thread.
I just used Google play to purchase a album and I selected the download to device option so I wouldn't have to deal with any storage in the cloud. the issue is when I scan folders for new music or using the power amp app, it cannot find this new music. I have used root explorer and can not find the folder Google play placed my purI feel pretty stupid starting a thread for this but any help would be appreciated
Sorry, but when you purchase music from Google Play you have to use their app to play it back, which is Play music. I do not believe there is an option to download your music, because it is a cloud based service. Amazon mp3 is the same thing as google play music, but you have the option to download your music rather than only stream it, which is much better imo.
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Sorry, but when you purchase music from Google Play you have to use their app to play it back, which is Play music. I do not believe there is an option to download your music, because it is a cloud based service. Amazon mp3 is the same thing as google play music, but you have the option to download your music rather than only stream it, which is much better imo.
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I was afraid this is what I would find out. I normally purchase my music from Amazon via the download function. Kinda pissed I made the purchase now and can't burn a copy of it for the CD player in the car.
He is correct, can "only" be played via the Google Music app, but there is a work around. Amazon does let you download instantly, but music is 260kbs, Google is 320kbs. You can download your google Music on your pc and manually transfer to your device like any other mp3, or even upload it to amazon and download from there.
Google Music removes the instant dl, but adds full mp3 quality sound.
You then can use any music app.
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He is correct, can "only" be played via the Google Music app, but there is a work around. Amazon does let you download instantly, but music is 260kbs, Google is 320kbs. You can download your google Music on your pc and manually transfer to your device like any other mp3, or even upload it to amazon and download from there.
Google Music removes the instant dl, but adds full mp3 quality sound.
You then can use any music app.
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This is correct... The website allows 2 downloads of each song, presumably so you don't download it to all of your friends computers.
However, you will find the files under /data/data/com.google.android.music/files, but unfortunately the filenames are just numbers, again presumably because they don't want you to copy the songs. It will just be a pain to find which is which.
Just got a new 6P from Google. I have it unlocked and TWRP installed, but no rooted just yet. Loading everything up on the phone, and I've come across an odd issue. I loaded my 1500 or so songs from my Samsung S5 to the 6P, and Google player only sees some of the songs. All the ones I bought from Amazon and some other random ones I'd ripped from our CD collection. Rocket Player sees them all, but won't play any but the ones Google Player plays. Tried some other music apps, but similar results.
I deleted all the songs, put them back in different folders, wiped the cache on Google Play and Rocket, booted the phone. I used ES File Explorer to go to individual albums and try to play the songs direct from there, but still does not work. I get "Couldn't play the track you selected".
Google search said to nuke all the music and go into Apps>Media and clear the storage, but that is not an option under Apps on this phone. Doesn't really seem like that kind of issue anyway, since it will play some of the songs.
Any help on this would be appreciated.
I decided to completely wipe the phone and start over, as this was not the only odd behavior it had. So I wiped it out, even the system files. I used fastboot to reload all the images. I did not re-lock it, and left TWRP on it. First thing I did after setup was load some music and I'm getting the same results. Some songs play, some don't. App permission shows it has access to storage.
Any help?
I finally found a player that would recognize and play all my songs, Poweramp. So I guess the issue is just that MXPlayer and Google Play Music are not fully compatible with MM 6.01.
Hello.
For a long time now I haven't been able to listen to any music at all from my phone. This hasn't really bothered me because I rarely use it for music. Now I just discovered this again and I can't let it go, I cannot just leave this. I am irritated, frustrated and it's annoying the hell out of me.
Google Play Music (or any music app) won't find my music! I have put it in different folders and locations but nothing helps. I can't find my downloaded music either through Google Play Music. When it's downloaded the app tells me it's stored locally somewhere and it works offline, so it's on my phone somewhere (I know Play Music stores them in numeric names).
The odd thing is though, if I set a music file as my ringtone, Play Music will find the song under "Unknown artists" and "Unknown Albums". THIS is what irritates me, why can't it just find my Music folder?
I've tried a lot of things;
Formatted my phone and reinstalled it (even stock won't find it)
Cleared Cache and Dalvik
Reinstalled the app(s)
Tried different formats (.ogg, .m4a, .mp3 for example)
Used apps to "Rescan" my internal storage (media finder)
I had this issue on my old Samsung device with CM10. On my N6P I'm currently running PureNexus 6.0.1-20160803-OFFICIAL.
Whoever can help me with this will be my hero, trust me, this is so freaking annoying I'm actually considering buying an iPhone............... Alright, that was a little too extreme, I would never do that. That's just the frustration inside me talking.
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Hello.
For a long time now I haven't been able to listen to any music at all from my phone. This hasn't really bothered me because I rarely use it for music. Now I just discovered this again and I can't let it go, I cannot just leave this. I am irritated, frustrated and it's annoying the hell out of me.
Google Play Music (or any music app) won't find my music! I have put it in different folders and locations but nothing helps. I can't find my downloaded music either through Google Play Music. When it's downloaded the app tells me it's stored locally somewhere and it works offline, so it's on my phone somewhere (I know Play Music stores them in numeric names).
The odd thing is though, if I set a music file as my ringtone, Play Music will find the song under "Unknown artists" and "Unknown Albums". THIS is what irritates me, why can't it just find my Music folder?
I've tried a lot of things;
Formatted my phone and reinstalled it (even stock won't find it)
Cleared Cache and Dalvik
Reinstalled the app(s)
Tried different formats (.ogg, .m4a, .mp3 for example)
Used apps to "Rescan" my internal storage (media finder)
I had this issue on my old Samsung device with CM10. On my N6P I'm currently running PureNexus 6.0.1-20160803-OFFICIAL.
Whoever can help me with this will be my hero, trust me, this is so freaking annoying I'm actually considering buying an iPhone............... Alright, that was a little too extreme, I would never do that. That's just the frustration inside me talking.
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Are you trying to find Google Play music or your own music you added to your storage?
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Are you trying to find Google Play music or your own music you added to your storage?
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My own music I've added.
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My own music I've added.
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I created a folder called Music that is in a location accessible when I plug my phone into the computer. I have my music organized as follows--artist folder/album folder/songs. My songs are all mp3 format, which works on Android. I use a third party music player (Black Player currently, Shuttle Music Player previously).. The music player automatically finds the albums I stored. I don't think Google's Music App works as a music player for your own music. Are you ripping your own music or downloading it or what? Do your music files have meta-tags that allow a music player to identify what the music is?
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I created a folder called Music that is in a location accessible when I plug my phone into the computer. I have my music organized as follows--artist folder/album folder/songs. My songs are all mp3 format, which works on Android. I use a third party music player (Black Player currently, Shuttle Music Player previously).. The music player automatically finds the albums I stored. I don't think Google's Music App works as a music player for your own music. Are you ripping your own music or downloading it or what? Do your music files have meta-tags that allow a music player to identify what the music is?
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I've bought my music and ripped it to my computer. All meta-tags are present so that shouldn't be an issue. Like I said, the weird part is, if I add a song as my ringtone Google play music finds it, but I don't want to do that for each and every song I have haha.
That would irritate me too!
It's weird that it has carried over on a clean flash. When you say your formatted the phone, did you also do the data partition? May be obvious, but the folder isn't hidden, is it? So the folder would be ".Music"? Or is there a file in there called ".nomedia"?
What music player are you using? I've had phones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Huawei and never experienced this problem. The fact that you had the exact same issue on 2 different phones suggests that you are doing something that is causing the problem, although its hard to see what. Your files aren't DRM protected if you are ripping them yourself. Maybe if you use a good third party music player it will find your music. I would stick to MP3 format on the files since that is compatible with Android. I had some files in Apple's format and had to convert them to MP3.
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That would irritate me too!
It's weird that it has carried over on a clean flash. When you say your formatted the phone, did you also do the data partition? May be obvious, but the folder isn't hidden, is it? So the folder would be ".Music"? Or is there a file in there called ".nomedia"?
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I've done a total clean format on my phone now, wiped everything including data/partition/storage. I have not done anything to the folder or renamed it. It's stilled called "Music" and there are no .nomedia files inside that specific folder (only in other folders that's not related at all).
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What music player are you using? I've had phones from HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Huawei and never experienced this problem. The fact that you had the exact same issue on 2 different phones suggests that you are doing something that is causing the problem, although its hard to see what. Your files aren't DRM protected if you are ripping them yourself. Maybe if you use a good third party music player it will find your music. I would stick to MP3 format on the files since that is compatible with Android. I had some files in Apple's format and had to convert them to MP3.
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Google Play Music (my music player)
What should I try? I tried PowerAmp or what it's called to see if it can locate my files but no success. The files are not DRM protected and I'm sticking to MP3 because like you said, higher probability it will find the files somehow.
I understand I might be the cause of this, and I don't mind it as long as I can understand what I'm doing xD As long as I know what's causing it I can let it go and remain peaceful, but as long as I have no idea what is causing this I will tear my hair off.
For it to persist across clean flashes and two different devices, there must be something in the folder that's buggering it up.
I would delete everything, then try copying some completely unrelated mp3's over to the same location to see if they're visible. If so, you know the problem is with the content. You can then go through this folder by folder until it stops working and you know what the culprit is.
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I've done a total clean format on my phone now, wiped everything including data/partition/storage. I have not done anything to the folder or renamed it. It's stilled called "Music" and there are no .nomedia files inside that specific folder (only in other folders that's not related at all).
Google Play Music (my music player)
What should I try? I tried PowerAmp or what it's called to see if it can locate my files but no success. The files are not DRM protected and I'm sticking to MP3 because like you said, higher probability it will find the files somehow.
I understand I might be the cause of this, and I don't mind it as long as I can understand what I'm doing xD As long as I know what's causing it I can let it go and remain peaceful, but as long as I have no idea what is causing this I will tear my hair off.
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I would try Black Player or Vanilla Music. Apparently you can use Google's app to play your own music but I'm not familiar with how that works. You do have a dedicated music folder called music, correct? What is the file path to your music folder? And how do you organize your music within that folder? Loose music tracks or folders for your artists and/or albums?
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For it to persist across clean flashes and two different devices, there must be something in the folder that's buggering it up.
I would delete everything, then try copying some completely unrelated mp3's over to the same location to see if they're visible. If so, you know the problem is with the content. You can then go through this folder by folder until it stops working and you know what the culprit is.
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Then it must be the folder itself, as I've mentioned before I have already tried done a complete wipe of my internal storage to get it working but with no success. Can I change the path for android to search for my music?
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I would try Black Player or Vanilla Music. Apparently you can use Google's app to play your own music but I'm not familiar with how that works. You do have a dedicated music folder called music, correct? What is the file path to your music folder? And how do you organize your music within that folder? Loose music tracks or folders for your artists and/or albums?
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Alright, so I downloaded BlackPlayer to try it out. It can't find any music files on my device at all. When I try to set a different search path (trying to select which folder the app should check for music) I can't even see my internal storage... This is really starting to worry me if my device might be faulty in some way (highly unlikely though because the device works perfectly fine with gallery and ES File explorer).
Within the Music folder I have it categorized in folders for example; /music/Children of bodom/Are you dead yet/ and then the songs from the album. I have also put some MP3 files directly into the Music folder to make sure the subfolders aren't messing with the apps.
So again, weird that BlackPlayer won't find any files at all and can't even recognize my internal storage. What can make this happen?
Edit: Just hit me, why don't I check the internal storage to see what's being used. In Settings>Storage & USB I can see that 1.08 GB worth of music is being used of my internal storage. When I click on it to see what files I have, I can only check something called "Unknown", inside that tab I have another folder called "Unknown" and inside THAT folder I can see my 3 custom ringtones..... What is going on?
You should check what the permissions are for your music folder. Root Explorer lets you check and change permissions for folders but costs 3.99. ES Explorer used to be good for this function as well but that program is a hot mess now. Do you have some kind of program on your phone that can check and change folder permissions? If Black Player can't find your music folder maybe read permissions aren't set properly for some reason.
I stopped using GPM a while ago. Such a battery hog and missing so many features. I use Sony music now. Has built in equalizer and album art finder. If u want to try it I can post the link
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I stopped using GPM a while ago. Such a battery hog and missing so many features. I use Sony music now. Has built in equalizer and album art finder. If u want to try it I can post the link
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I want to use Google play music, I like the player and like I mentioned, it's not only Google play music that's causing this.
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You should check what the permissions are for your music folder. Root Explorer lets you check and change permissions for folders but costs 3.99. ES Explorer used to be good for this function as well but that program is a hot mess now. Do you have some kind of program on your phone that can check and change folder permissions? If Black Player can't find your music folder maybe read permissions aren't set properly for some reason.
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When I get back from work I'll try this out.
Alright, tried to set the permissions for the folder but didn't fix anything unfortunately
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Alright, tried to set the permissions for the folder but didn't fix anything unfortunately
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There's a flashable Zip that fixes file permissions on entire internal SD Card. Use the download link after the text, not the highlighted one within the text.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
It might help. It sounds like the permissions on your internal storage might be screwy. I was hoping changing permissions on the single folder might fix it.
use blackplayer ex..... even i had the same issue and now since a year im useing this for music and its AMAZINGGG.......
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There's a flashable Zip that fixes file permissions on entire internal SD Card. Use the download link after the text, not the highlighted one within the text.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239421
It might help. It sounds like the permissions on your internal storage might be screwy. I was hoping changing permissions on the single folder might fix it.
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I tried that but it didn't work... Same issue persist. I've found out though that VLC can recognize my files (through the explorer that belongs to VLC). When I play one of my songs to my car stereo through VLC the display say "fd://34" in the song title... What could this mean? The numbers change depending on the track, one is called fd://34 and the next one might be called fd://53 etc.
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use blackplayer ex..... even i had the same issue and now since a year im useing this for music and its AMAZINGGG.......
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Blackplayer doesn't work either and I want to use Google Play Music since I've bought a couple of songs from them. Don't want to switch between different music apps. I also like Google Play Music the most out the majority of apps.
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I tried that but it didn't work... Same issue persist. I've found out though that VLC can recognize my files (through the explorer that belongs to VLC). When I play one of my songs to my car stereo through VLC the display say "fd://34" in the song title... What could this mean? The numbers change depending on the track, one is called fd://34 and the next one might be called fd://53 etc.
Blackplayer doesn't work either and I want to use Google Play Music since I've bought a couple of songs from them. Don't want to switch between different music apps. I also like Google Play Music the most out the majority of apps.
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Are you sure your music tracks have proper metainformation? It sounds like VLC can't tell what any of your music is and is using a generic placeholder name. I would open some of your music on your computer with the free program Mp3tag and verify that information shows up in the title/artist/album fields. If the fields are blank then your music isn't tagged properly. You can also right click on a music file and go to the details tab but I prefer the Mp3tag program because if something is wrong it's easy to do the tags for an entire album at once. You didn't do anything unusual with the formatting of your data partition on the phone?
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Are you sure your music tracks have proper metainformation? It sounds like VLC can't tell what any of your music is and is using a generic placeholder name. I would open some of your music on your computer with the free program Mp3tag and verify that information shows up in the title/artist/album fields. If the fields are blank then your music isn't tagged properly. You can also right click on a music file and go to the details tab but I prefer the Mp3tag program because if something is wrong it's easy to do the tags for an entire album at once. You didn't do anything unusual with the formatting of your data partition on the phone?
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I've checked the metatags and it's all fine. Everything is there.
I thought so as well about the VLC thing. But yet again, with all the metatags there, how come it can't recognize anything? Seems so weird.
No, I don't think I did. I'm using TWRP right now and I do a clean wipe using the options inside that. Before TWRP I used CWM, same issue persisted though. I appreciate your help so much, I'm trying my best here to figure it out but it helps a lot with your ideas! Just like to say that so I don't seem ungrateful