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So, who's about to watch the Samsung and Google event in Hong Kong? I'm watching for a timeline of ICS on our tabs. Should be fun.
http://www.youtube.com/android
Oh and the Galaxy Nexus will be cool too.
I'm watching with you as well! Hoping they will say there's an ICS update avail right now for our Tabs. lol
They say the developer SDK is available right now. Is that enough for ROMs or just apps?
just apps, we need the source code and drivers(?) for roms
Cool new intuitive changes borrowed from the android community.
looks promising and improvements from HC...
tho i find the People stuff a bit Microsoft feel...
love the Roboto and the rennovation... looks a lot smoother too...
love the new Camera Apps...
wish they tell a bit more about Galaxy Nexus since i am deciding to get an upgrade from HTC Magic...
hopefully coming to GT10.1 soon?
Why didn't they demo it on a tablet as well..
Im guessing because theyre going to show it off on a new motorola tablet and its a samsung event. Hopefully motorola shows something on their razr event.
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so the big question is..when can cyanogen have access to the sources??
CM9?
He has a galaxy tab 10.1 ..actually a couple of them
I think that new calendar will look really good on tablets. I only hope that if there will be a dedicated tablet calendar, the font size will be enlarged to some degree when you use the pinch to zoom function.
I absolutely love the "SWIPE ALL THE THINGS" idea, but I'm sure it takes some time to get used to. Getting rid of notifications in HC is something i find a nightmare. Where is the friggin "Clear All" Button?(Devs?)
Any thoughts about camera shutter response improvement with ICS on "older" devices, like SGS2? I mean, SGS2 is quite fast as it is, but there is always room for improvement.
The voice textmessaging seemed extremely accurate...in english. Hope it will be as accurate i Norwegian
The new browser, calendar, launcher and gallery seemed solid, so probably no need for any 3rd party replacement. Also, I like the transparency and the darkness through the whole stock theme. The new font also looks very nice!
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?
ICS on our tabs....i say ...Q2 next year?
on CM9 for our tabs...i say....Q1 next year..
so nothing for this year i am guessing?
paua__ said:
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?
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The current range of tablets (10.1, 8.9, XOOM etc) should be compatible and will probably get the ICS update. At least I hope they do.
It's a little more tricky for existing phones which have hardware buttons -- if the manufacturers want to release an ICS update for those, they will probably have to disable to onscreen buttons otherwise it will be just plain confusing.
Andy Rubin said most devices running 2.3.x shouldnwork just fine with ics. Seeing as the nexus s will get the update first, that sets the min speed at 1ghz single core. Our tabs should have no problem running 4.0.
I would expect source code to be released just after the nexus s update. So some aosp alpha stuff around Xmas. At least that would be a nice present.
Let's go through the improvemens:
- clean lock screen (already available as 3rd party apps)
- face unlock (first consumer implementation, though not new tech)
- notifications in lock screen (I am sure someone has done this, but not cyanogen)
- quick text respond (3rd party lock screen?)
- swipe away notifications (cyanogenmod)
- honeycomb app switcher w/ swipe away (finally!)
- data usage monitor (wow! I hope there is something like that for battery use)
- photo/video/gallery (some much needed improvements bring it up to the competition)
- cleaner ui experience (nice changes should make it competitive with apple out of the box)
- gv voicemails in call log (nice, but not a major uprade)
- native screenshot support (no more icon on lower bar! But already available for some devices)
- Google beam (doesn't really do it for me...)
- talk to type and keyboard improvements (we'll have to see if the can compete with 3rd partys)
- disable apps (already in titanium backup as freeze app)
- device encryption (already supported in honeycomb)
Personally the only other thing I really would like to see out of Samsung is an open api for their multitasking mini apps. Those are a major step forward in multitasking (at least on tablets)
seltaeb said:
The current range of tablets (10.1, 8.9, XOOM etc) should be compatible and will probably get the ICS update. At least I hope they do.
It's a little more tricky for existing phones which have hardware buttons -- if the manufacturers want to release an ICS update for those, they will probably have to disable to onscreen buttons otherwise it will be just plain confusing.
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no, they can also use the hardware buttons and disable the software buttons. will be no problem at all!
but whether they will release it for old devices (except nexus devices) or not... that's another question.
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I think that new calendar will look really good on tablets. I only hope that if there will be a dedicated tablet calendar, the font size will be enlarged to some degree when you use the pinch to zoom function.
I absolutely love the "SWIPE ALL THE THINGS" idea, but I'm sure it takes some time to get used to. Getting rid of notifications in HC is something i find a nightmare. Where is the friggin "Clear All" Button?(Devs?)
Any thoughts about camera shutter response improvement with ICS on "older" devices, like SGS2? I mean, SGS2 is quite fast as it is, but there is always room for improvement.
The voice textmessaging seemed extremely accurate...in english. Hope it will be as accurate i Norwegian
The new browser, calendar, launcher and gallery seemed solid, so probably no need for any 3rd party replacement. Also, I like the transparency and the darkness through the whole stock theme. The new font also looks very nice!
What devices do you guys think will be ICS compatible? Minimum hardware specs? Still sittin' with an ol' SGS1, but i highly doubt I will ever see it running ICS.
When do you guys think ICS wil be available for our Galaxy Tabs? Q1 2012 maybe?
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Try android pro widgets calendar, you can synced Google and change font size.
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First of all, this is in no way a criticism of the Rom devs who have released JB Roms so far, and its not trolling, just my observations on the JB Roms (based on what we have seen so far).
I've been running CleanNote 6 with Speedmod for a few months now (with a few mods - removed lots of bloat, added Google Now, new Gmail etc). Its very fast, smooth, and has brilliant battery life. But like most people on here, I've been trying out the JB Roms since they first appeared. Problem is, I keep coming back to CleanNote. Maybe some of these can be resolved once Samsung decides to finish JB for the Note, although some appear to be features rather than bugs.
So here's my list of moans
- Overall, its no where near as 'smooth' as CleanNote - this will hopefully improve once JB is officially out - (or maybe a new speedmod will come out for JB?)
- The Gallery - there's that 'stutter' whenever you load an album that isn't there in CleanNote (again, should be fixed in official release) Images often appear pixelated for a second before clearing up - not a problem in LRQ/CleanNote Roms.
- The new Notification drop down looks ugly for me - personal taste but not for me
- Font sizes are too big - system fonts are too large, changing to tiny or small makes third party apps look odd (hopefully fixed in official release)
- The share / open with dialogues are not as nice - the list in 4.0.4 LRQ works great - the icon / grid system in JB is awkward (eg click to open a link from twitter and it asks you which browser to use - instead of a nice neat list we have a messy grid of icons.
- Not able to access app info directly from the app drawer.
These next ones might be more controversial
- AirView - not really sure why this is useful - its novel, but can't imagine using it - maybe better on a large tablet size device but not jumping at me as something I would ever need.
- MultiView - nice idea, but even with the Note's large screen, you are left with two windows that aren't really practical to work with . I tried to look at a map and website at the same time - it worked, but it was pointless - much better to switch between than try to manage both at once. On a 10 inch tablet I can see this as useful maybe though.
- Paper Artist - not interested - its just a novelty app - pretty pointless really.
Things I do like
- The launcher bug from LRQ 4.0.4 is gone (apps on SD would vanish from homescreen on restart)
- Long app names run to two lines rather than just cutting off like they used to
On previous phones (Galaxy S, Desire, Desire HD), I've quickly ended up on CM or MIUI based roms - but with the note it seems silly to lose the unique features you only get with a TW Roms.
These are just my thoughts based on the leaks we have seen so far -
Please feel free to disagree and convince me otherwise (or ignore if you like!) -but don't accuse me of trolling or start flaming - I'm just sharing my ideas.
I agree with you on that, a lot of the jb features are gimmicks and probably won't get used that often.
But that doesn't mean no one will ever use them some people may find it really useful?
I agree that ics (expecially clean note) is a lot smoother than jb but I believe mainly this is because jb is still kind of in beta stage so it's an unfinished release.
The galaxy s2 has had jb update but it requires being updated via Kies only as the whole device needs to be repartitioned taking up to 1 hour to complete.
Maybe something similar will be required for the note? If it does require repartitioning it may solve some of the existing issues such as memory leaking and storage issues and general lagging.
Who knows? All we can do and see what happens when it's released.
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zongamin said:
First of all, this is in no way a criticism of the Rom devs who have released JB Roms so far, and its not trolling, just my observations on the JB Roms (based on what we have seen so far).
I've been running CleanNote 6 with Speedmod for a few months now (with a few mods - removed lots of bloat, added Google Now, new Gmail etc). Its very fast, smooth, and has brilliant battery life. But like most people on here, I've been trying out the JB Roms since they first appeared. Problem is, I keep coming back to CleanNote. Maybe some of these can be resolved once Samsung decides to finish JB for the Note, although some appear to be features rather than bugs.
So here's my list of moans
- Overall, its no where near as 'smooth' as CleanNote - this will hopefully improve once JB is officially out - (or maybe a new speedmod will come out for JB?)
- The Gallery - there's that 'stutter' whenever you load an album that isn't there in CleanNote (again, should be fixed in official release) Images often appear pixelated for a second before clearing up - not a problem in LRQ/CleanNote Roms.
- The new Notification drop down looks ugly for me - personal taste but not for me
- Font sizes are too big - system fonts are too large, changing to tiny or small makes third party apps look odd (hopefully fixed in official release)
- The share / open with dialogues are not as nice - the list in 4.0.4 LRQ works great - the icon / grid system in JB is awkward (eg click to open a link from twitter and it asks you which browser to use - instead of a nice neat list we have a messy grid of icons.
- Not able to access app info directly from the app drawer.
These next ones might be more controversial
- AirView - not really sure why this is useful - its novel, but can't imagine using it - maybe better on a large tablet size device but not jumping at me as something I would ever need.
- MultiView - nice idea, but even with the Note's large screen, you are left with two windows that aren't really practical to work with . I tried to look at a map and website at the same time - it worked, but it was pointless - much better to switch between than try to manage both at once. On a 10 inch tablet I can see this as useful maybe though.
- Paper Artist - not interested - its just a novelty app - pretty pointless really.
Things I do like
- The launcher bug from LRQ 4.0.4 is gone (apps on SD would vanish from homescreen on restart)
- Long app names run to two lines rather than just cutting off like they used to
On previous phones (Galaxy S, Desire, Desire HD), I've quickly ended up on CM or MIUI based roms - but with the note it seems silly to lose the unique features you only get with a TW Roms.
These are just my thoughts based on the leaks we have seen so far -
Please feel free to disagree and convince me otherwise (or ignore if you like!) -but don't accuse me of trolling or start flaming - I'm just sharing my ideas.
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+1 and addition to this when you are in settings and tap on a option like display it takes 2-3 seconds to open and show some glitch and also the boot menu i don't like it.. but i love jb so i switched to official cm 10.1 it's so smooth
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After almost two months of trying various JB roms last week I returned back to Rocket Rom V12 and what a difference it made. So yesterday I went online to write similar thoughts to yours but got destructed by a post and spent my time reading it instead. All I can do now is to say: +1 on that
Thanks for replies
I'm pretty sure that the smoothness will come in the official release - I just tried the latest version of BURTROM and its pretty nice - Usable as a daily driver if you feel like you have to have JB already.
Final thought - I guess that the JB update will be the last major official OS update for our Notes - the S4 and Note 3 will be out this year (and who knows how many others) - our old Notes will be 2 years old and I guess many of us will be upgrading soon anyway. We will have had 2 major updates (GB>ICS>JB) which is 2 more than most Androids get anyway. This time next year it will be S3 and Note 2 owners complaining about the updates that take months and don't work as well as the old versions!
Why did you make a new thread and why didn't you use the existing ones for JB discussions?
zongamin said:
- AirView - not really sure why this is useful - its novel, but can't imagine using it - maybe better on a large tablet size device but not jumping at me as something I would ever need.
- MultiView - nice idea, but even with the Note's large screen, you are left with two windows that aren't really practical to work with . I tried to look at a map and website at the same time - it worked, but it was pointless - much better to switch between than try to manage both at once. On a 10 inch tablet I can see this as useful maybe though.
- Paper Artist - not interested - its just a novelty app - pretty pointless really.
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CleanNote 6 + NoteCore 14 was the best combo for me on TW - with best batt life on my device
- (also previous user of imilkas PA 0,4)
Playing with JB leaks from the first one - and now back to ICS again. We have now leaks only, so there is no need to be dissapointed. The thing is, even with release of Note2, samsung pushed all of its features into this "old" device. Hardware is still capable, but in term of bussines is our device no more interersting for samsung - so their move to bring up those features is simply great when you compare other makers. For sure those features might be just "gimmick" - but it will definitelly aim me to buy next Samsung device....and i believe the same for SOME current S2 S3 users,
Ask your friend what new he got with JB on HTC, Sony etc...new sets of icons and weather widget???
JB so on my N1 far:
-smoother launcher (who cares about small lags on ICS - but i know that a lot of people just care about lag in the launcher...)
-loading apps - definitelly a bit quicker on ICS
-bat life - might be on par stock ICS/stock JB
-Gallery JB - i like it more then ICS but there are also other PlayStore alternatives
-AirView - nice feature but really never used it that much, so...
-multiview stock - also do not use as i use something else...
When you debloat JB then it is better (in that case BurtRom is nice performer, and chipwizz went even further to debloat
Samsung also lost a lot of N2 customers that wanted to switch from N1 (like myself), cause we have got the same features (but N2 is definitelly better specced device), but for me as a "non gamer" N2s quadcore has no meaning untill (probably N3).
What i would expect from N3 - is full phablet mini PC with ability to stick HDMI screen and perform standard office tasks. I can do it now, but there is problem somewhere else..so hopefully multitasking in next android will be better. Hopefully N3 will not bring just bigger screen...
All well said. I am simply sticking to leaked jb(ultimate 5.1) without going back to ics with a fond hope that official jb will be rolling out soon.
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if upgrading to official JB on Note will involve repartitioning then i hope we can still go back and forth between older ics ..leak jbs.....aosp...cm roms. hope our experts will advise us accordingly
Thread closed. Please search and use one of the other JB threads instead of opening an entirely new thread.
I don't own this device but i did just see this video come up in my subscriptions going over a "never before seen" update that completely changes the interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZoh_QKnGbc
Thanks a lot! Its really neat! Oppo said that we will have something big soon. Hopefully this is it.
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Well, it's still not "spectacular". Icons are still iPhone-ish, the Settings menu is still a mess...
I should contact Oppo and offer them to do some better concepts for a few bucks.
XpLoDWilD said:
Well, it's still not "spectacular". Icons are still iPhone-ish, the Settings menu is still a mess...
I should contact Oppo and offer them to do some better concepts for a few bucks.
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with the new update. you will be able to change icon packs easily. they are introducing there own "theme store"
excited to see what they are doing
with the new update they sent out yesterday, they updated the lock screen with a new version! so slick. i love it!
Some interesting things in the video. This is not Oppo specific, but I have to say that all this stuff the vendors are doing with software are just kind of... meh.
/rant
I mean seriously, how many screen, menu transitions do we need. Some of us could give two s$*ts about snow building up on an icon...
Give me SOLID bluetooth to headset performance for 3 hour meetings.
Give me an amazing email client for enterprise messaging systems.
I'd like a bigger sensor for the love of God! 13 megapixels isn't worth diddly if the sensor is crap... and they all are. Thinking you can replace a camera with a phone right now is a serious flaw in logic.
Improve on signal strength and antenna design for better signal in suspect areas.
/-rant
I really am leaning toward getting the Black international 32GB version. The level of 'real' updates, improving performance and fixing issues, is impressive thus far. I can change the UI by installing the homescreen app of my choosing, so leave this stuff for later please
WhiteSRT69 said:
with the new update. you will be able to change icon packs easily. they are introducing there own "theme store"
excited to see what they are doing
with the new update they sent out yesterday, they updated the lock screen with a new version! so slick. i love it!
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Still, the Camera app is super basic and looks like apps we did 2 years ago, the Settings menu is totally disorganized, the contacts app is everything but cool like Android 4.0 stock Contacts app, etc...
There's a point where theming cannot just cover everything. Ok for the icons, but the apps stay the same, experience stays the same. How are they going to bring 4.2's lockscreen widgets? Quick settings? They update their current design without planning features released a few months ago, and god knows users are angry when you don't update their favorite handset to the latest OS version -- especially knowing the next Android version comes in less than a month now.
Now, you can perfectly live happy with it, that's just my opinion ^^ I love enhanced user experience, and Oppo firmware just looks like a step back to me compared to stock 4.2, half-way between Gingerbread and ICS.
If I have some time, I'll do a mockup or two for an UI Oppo-style, but with 4.2 experience.
XpLoDWilD said:
Still, the Camera app is super basic and looks like apps we did 2 years ago, the Settings menu is totally disorganized, the contacts app is everything but cool like Android 4.0 stock Contacts app, etc...
There's a point where theming cannot just cover everything. Ok for the icons, but the apps stay the same, experience stays the same. How are they going to bring 4.2's lockscreen widgets? Quick settings? They update their current design without planning features released a few months ago, and god knows users are angry when you don't update their favorite handset to the latest OS version -- especially knowing the next Android version comes in less than a month now.
Now, you can perfectly live happy with it, that's just my opinion ^^ I love enhanced user experience, and Oppo firmware just looks like a step back to me compared to stock 4.2, half-way between Gingerbread and ICS.
If I have some time, I'll do a mockup or two for an UI Oppo-style, but with 4.2 experience.
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Ohhhhh.I'll.be waiting for that one. I.love aosp but my grippes with it is camera optimization
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with CM10.1 from XpLoDWilD i got better battery life than stock firmware
My test is left the phone full charge throught night, after 7 hours. stock firmware took 11% percent, CM10.1 took 5%. (I Only turn wifi on, 3g and data disable)
Hello,
So I bought this device a week ago and the lag really bothers me. I noticed this device runs 70+ processes in the background and uses half of its memory on boot!
I remember when I installed cyanogenmod on my original Samsung Galaxy Tab, the thing was flying, even web browsing was several times smoother. Also it gives CPU clock options, and it gave me an option to adjust minimum CPU clock, this way a lot of lag just went away.
Thanks!
No custom ROMs yet. We just got a recovery so custom roms can now be used. Also what little lag I saw went away with the latest update. It is a good idea to get all the updates then wipe and start fresh.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513532
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508143
none of those do much of anything to speed up my device overall. just faster homescreen swiping. i've always used alternative launchers mainly for the customizations, whatever speed they grant is negligible since i spend so little time in the launchers themselves. the majority of the apps disabled in that list i've had frozen since root came out. i even refreshed for the hell of it and no difference.
i love the device, but samsung has done some crappy work on the software.
madsquabbles said:
none of those do much of anything to speed up my device overall. just faster homescreen swiping. i've always used alternative launchers mainly for the customizations, whatever speed they grant is negligible since i spend so little time in the launchers themselves. the majority of the apps disabled in that list i've had frozen since root came out. i even refreshed for the hell of it and no difference.
i love the device, but samsung has done some crappy work on the software.
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The only issue I see with custom roms is the loss of spen functionality which is really a shame. Without the spen this is just another 10in tab. Samsung has added some great functionality with snote, the air dock, multi Windows.. Etc.
Hopefully we get a de bloated rom soon. But as others have said, the lag has somewhat improved with the latest patch. But I feel where you're coming from, the first thing I noticed when I turned it on was lag. In fact, I should post the gtalk conversation I had with my tech buddy the dash I got it.
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a TW based custom ROM won't lose any of the S Pen stuff.
Design
More horrible is the Design of the Firmware. I mean look at that statusbar with that buttons for WLAN , GPS and so on. It looks like some ugly quaters.
I feel like my phone got extremely boring and harsh to use day to day, it lacks the initial freshness and stuff like that, it just isn't so fly like it was a few weeks ago. I was wondering if someone could bring up some root tweaks to refresh the user experience, possibly without losing the original rom
main43 said:
I feel like my phone got extremely boring and harsh to use day to day, it lacks the initial freshness and stuff like that, it just isn't so fly like it was a few weeks ago. I was wondering if someone could bring up some root tweaks to refresh the user experience, possibly without losing the original rom
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You could try installing Xposed installer, it has some nice modules to add looks and fuctionality to the phone.
First, thank you for your quick response.
I already have Wanam and squashed every fancy bit out of it, but it just doesn't feel so alive even through it looks at it best. I would apprecciate if someone could acknowledge some tweaks that can do things like gesture swiping between multitasked applications, like in chrome for android and its tabs, or as it was on old iPhones with some tweaks from Cydia.
I feel the same way too. Unfortunately, the phone really was well made and Android has come a long way. There aren't many things to really mod.
Even the kernels aren't important as much because the battery life is far superior to previous Samsung phones.
The only reason I use a custom kernel is for the fast charge.
A potential bug for installing xposed is S Health not working(can work through build prop edit ) and air gestures not working at all.
Air gestures work well with mine, i thought something should be worked out with the basic framework, like they did with the volume panel when you increase or decrease the volume, it moves smoothly now, not in small cut steps like on previous firmwares. Small bits like that add to the experience and when they are composed good, it can turn out very well. Aah if i could work in some UI development..
I love that you came up with this thread! I have been feeling the same way. Got everything pretty close to how I like it between rooting and many xposed mods. Don't really want to accept that maybe I don't need to constantly be on XDA finding new tweaks to try. I guess with my previous S3 I got so used to all the custom roms I could play with that would each feel a little different. I think a big problem with the xposed mods is that once you have found and used them they are pretty much always available whatever ROM you use as long as you have root. Once you have found that particular module and enjoyed its unique abilities it becomes an expected part of your experience from then on. And now most of them can do almost all the same things as the most feature rich custom Roms. Thankfully it looks like CM is finally starting to roll out for the S5 and hopefully the usual suspects and some surprise Roms will pop up. Unfortunately I've already played with almost all of the CM11 based ones on my S3 already so I think there will not be a whole lot of freshness there. Oh poor me! Bring on Android L!
Tapped It!
I hope something will be done with system physics and touch picking behaviour, i love Android and would love it to have the same feel like iPhone when scrolling etc. Try it and you will know what i mean. And i know it is very possible even with an open OS like Android so shut up and develop the fresh out of it.