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I own both Samsung Captivate and Focus, both devices have SUPER AMOLED screen. Both devices have burn-in problem after months of usage.
Captivate:
I could see the notification bar on top of the screen with the fuzzy clock and battery indicator burn-in to the screen with very pale color especially very noticeable with a white screen! I also saw AT&T stores had these demo units experiencing the exact problem! I then called up Samsung to replace the Super AMOLED screen. Now it's fine but very annoying.
Samsung Focus:
I just got mine in Dec and didn't use a lot on that device. There is a very good reason why WP7 has to hide those status indicators on top to prevent Super AMOLED screen burn-in problem. I also checked out the demo units in AT&T stores, all of the Focus had Windows Phone 7 logo burn-in to the screen at the top left corner due to the static logo constantly playing on the demo mode.
In conclusion:
SUPER AMOLED screen's quality life-time is still short compare to LCDs. Given about 2 months of usage, 8 hours a day with static image such as notification bars for example, burn-in issue is inevitable! In real-life daily usage, give it about 2.6 hrs a day, your screen will be burnt after 6 months.
NEVER USE SUPER AMOLED SCREEN WITH STATIC IMAGE!
On my phone the screen isn't on for very long periods. Even when I am talking on it if near my face the screen is off.
How does this compare to your experience?
Does a phone in demo mode have the screen on constantly?
The only reson OLED isn't so widely used is because of its limited life span (especially on blue color). From what I read in the past, it is very difficult to get blue channel pixels pass 2,000 hours of life span. Not sure if AMOLED or SAMOLED made any advancement in this area. So, the precautions should always be taken. Let your phone screen on 8-hour a day is not a good approach. That's why there is a setting to let phone go into sleep and turn off the display.
My Captivate has been working flawless since August 2010 with zero image retention or burn in.
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The only reson OLED isn't so widely used is because of its limited life span (especially on blue color). From what I read in the past, it is very difficult to get blue channel pixels pass 2,000 hours of life span. Not sure if AMOLED or SAMOLED made any advancement in this area. So, the precautions should always be taken. Let your phone screen on 8-hour a day is not a good approach. That's why there is a setting to let phone go into sleep and turn off the display.
My Captivate has been working flawless since August 2010 with zero image retention or burn in.
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How many hours per day do you keep your screen turned on? I would give that minimum 480 hrs with static image to experience burn-in. No need to wait 2000 hrs of life-time in Blue Channel in AMOLED.
The life-time of the entire Super AMOLED is here and I'm also being conservative: 480Hrs to start to get burn-in issue using AT&T store demo units as reference.
wildbilll said:
On my phone the screen isn't on for very long periods. Even when I am talking on it if near my face the screen is off.
How does this compare to your experience?
Does a phone in demo mode have the screen on constantly?
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I use skype and bluetooth headsets alot, so screen shut down may not happen at all until i manually shut off the screen. Moreover, using GPS navigation will definitely cause burn-in problem with static images such as the miles, eta, notification bar, clock, battery indicator, etc.
Android is just not a good OS for Super AMOLED. WP7 on the other hand is for Super AMOLED.
I'd estimate less than 30 minutes total per day (only counts screen on time). So, 480 hrs should let me use my phone for 960 days, or way beyond my tolerance for an *old* phone.
If I'm sitting in a meeting broswing internet or reading news using some apps, almost all of them are full screen and won't necessary have static images on the fixed locations.
Turn the brightness down (I use auto brightness setting) and don't let the screen on for extended period. You will be fine.
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Android is just not a good OS for Super AMOLED. WP7 on the other hand is for Super AMOLED.
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I have to agree. The metro color schem (black in most of the screen) is the best way to reduce AMOLED battery usage and lower the potential burn-in risk.
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I own both Samsung Captivate and Focus, both devices have SUPER AMOLED screen. Both devices have burn-in problem after months of usage.
Captivate:
I could see the notification bar on top of the screen with the fuzzy clock and battery indicator burn-in to the screen with very pale color especially very noticeable with a white screen! I also saw AT&T stores had these demo units experiencing the exact problem! I then called up Samsung to replace the Super AMOLED screen. Now it's fine but very annoying.
Samsung Focus:
I just got mine in Dec and didn't use a lot on that device. There is a very good reason why WP7 has to hide those status indicators on top to prevent Super AMOLED screen burn-in problem. I also checked out the demo units in AT&T stores, all of the Focus had Windows Phone 7 logo burn-in to the screen at the top left corner due to the static logo constantly playing on the demo mode.
In conclusion:
SUPER AMOLED screen's quality life-time is still short compare to LCDs. Given about 2 months of usage, 8 hours a day with static image such as notification bars for example, burn-in issue is inevitable! In real-life daily usage, give it about 2.6 hrs a day, your screen will be burnt after 6 months.
NEVER USE SUPER AMOLED SCREEN WITH STATIC IMAGE!
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I have both devices and neither or them display image retention. What method or program are you using to test this?
I downloaded a flashlight app on the captivate and on the Focus so I could turn the whole screen white. I also adjusted it to other color,s still see no burned in images.
I've had my Captivate and Focus since day one when they were first released by AT&T.
Go to any AT&T cooperate stores to check out all the burn-in screens. For captivate I use screen test. It cycles from white, black, green, red, blue, and other pallets. I can garauntee you that all Super AMOLED screens are the same given static images and keep the screen turned on such as notification bar, full battery notification, GPS app.
If you don't have any burn-in problems that means you haven't used the screen long enough even you got your devices since launch.
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If you don't have any burn-in problems that means you haven't used the screen long enough even you got your devices since launch.
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The key here is to keep the screen-on time as short as possible. For normal usage, it will be fine. Will it have burn in 2 or 3 years down the road? Sure, but I probably have to dig it out from the bottom of my drawer to check it out by then. I'd rather enjoy my sharp crispy and colorful SAMOLED for 2 years than worry about burn-in and settle for murky, low contrast and washed out color of the LCD screen for 2 years.
Store demos are the worse case senario.
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I'd rather enjoy my sharp crispy and colorful SAMOLED for 2 years than worry about burn-in and settle for murky, low contrast and washed out color of the LCD screen for 2 years.
Store demos are the worse case senario.
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Very true! But still people really need to beware of their SUPER AMOLED screen. But for gamers...... make sure don't allow a static screen staying on for too long.
Well, I was reading an email yesterday on my focus and noticed that the smiley message icon was like a little ghost in the background. I also noticed the circle/arrow icon. I use orange on black mainly. I moved the tiles around a bit, we'll see if it goes away.
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Well, I was reading an email yesterday on my focus and noticed that the smiley message icon was like a little ghost in the background. I also noticed the circle/arrow icon. I use orange on black mainly. I moved the tiles around a bit, we'll see if it goes away.
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and disappeared?
No, it did not go away. It's only visible on white screens, but it is definitely there. I guess I'm going to drop by the at&t store to see if it's a warranty issue, but I highly doubt it. My guess is I'm stuck with it. Since I use the black theme it's not a huge issue, but when I switch to the white theme it looks pretty awful.
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Very true! But still people really need to beware of their SUPER AMOLED screen. But for gamers...... make sure don't allow a static screen staying on for too long.
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Why beware? Image Persistance can happen on any screen that is left running static for long periods of time. In most of the AT&T stores that I have been in the demo units are set to stay up and running for which I can only assume is to attract people. This will cause the image persistance that you are talking about. These phones screens also get used a lot more than your personal cell will.
Use your phone and don't worry about something that may or may not happen. In two years or less you will likely have a new one anyway.
Hilarious!
This reminds me of the times where projector tvs and lately plasma tvs exhibit the same not-suitable-for-gaming problem! LOL
That's one of the reasons I got the Motorola Atrix with its LCD screen!
My previous smartphone was a Nexus One and even though it didn't exhibit ghosting problems, I always tried to use it as little as possible and used the screen on its dimmest setting.
Now I can leave the screen on at full brightness for hours (like for GPS driving for instance) without any remorse!
I have the the imprint of Internet Explorer Mobile's chome burned onto my screen.
1+ hour of continuing browsing daily.
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I have the the imprint of Internet Explorer Mobile's chome burned onto my screen.
1+ hour of continuing browsing daily.
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Im a high internet user and txtin user etc.. and on my old galaxy s i had the qwerty keyboard burnt onto my screen and not i have my galaxy s2 i can see the same thing startin to happen. For me if this isnt sorted by the time i get another phone in say a yr n half, as much as i adore my amoled screens im defo not goin down that rd again, wat a shame they cnt sort this out, and they r makin thousands of phones and tablets with these screens, so not cool samsung
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Im a high internet user and txtin user etc.. and on my old galaxy s i had the qwerty keyboard burnt onto my screen and not i have my galaxy s2 i can see the same thing startin to happen. For me if this isnt sorted by the time i get another phone in say a yr n half, as much as i adore my amoled screens im defo not goin down that rd again, wat a shame they cnt sort this out, and they r makin thousands of phones and tablets with these screens, so not cool samsung
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They have been trying very hard in the past decade or so. The main problem is the blue channel pixels' life span. Most companies have ditched their effort and move to other technologies. That's the main reason why there is no consumer TVs made of the OLED screens other than the $4000 Sony 14" OLED tv.
Unless there is a scientific breakthrough, this situation will remain for years to come.
Has anyone dealt with Samsung Tech support on this issue I just got off the phone with them and they wanted me to do a Hard reset. I tried to explain that this was a physical issue, but they still wanted to follow their script.
Now they have sent me a label to send it off but want me to remove my SD card. It ismy understanding that this card is bonded to the phone and cannot be used in a replacement phone if they send me one. I am going to call them back ut based on my previous conversation I am not holding out hope that anyone there will know what I am talking about.
Its been about a month since the launch of the SGS2. I know it may be a bit early but has anyone noticed any image retention or screen burn? I haven't as of yet and I but i do keep my brightness usually on the lowest all the time im at home. Outside its on Auto.
Also even if anyone hasn't how long will it take to happen since I know that all OLed displays including TV's eventually retain images?
I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
Yeah, im trying to do that as much as i can especially changing the orientation with the market and some apps.
So once your pixels gets burned in, can you change them back to normal by putting a different colour over the burned area or is it for good?
I think UK as all the Europe uses 24h clock. So no need to worry about am pm burn in.
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I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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"4 MONTHS" any sign of any burn in on my screen and i`ll be looking for a replacement under the warrenty. If this is the case then i`m afraid the Amoled technology is a complete failure in my opinion...!!!
Basically LED displays comprise of 3 LEDs. Red, Blue and Green. When they lit up all together, the form white. Unlike the LCD technology, LED's are diodes which convert electricity into Light and hence they have a lifespan. They gradually start degrading which reduces the amount of light that they emit.
Blue has the highest tendency to degrade faster, hence the AMOLED screens have a Bluish tint to compensate for the same.
Suppose you use a 12 Hour clock and you have AM and PM displayed all the time, as a result of this, the blue pixels that are present at the AM, PM display location degrade, which causes a color imbalance. I.e the other pixels emit more light, but the "Burnt" pixels emit less light. At a later stage when the other 2 LEDs start getting burnt, you can see a patched up section, which represents the burnt pixels, which could be spotted on specific backgrounds.
There is no way to fix screen burn than to get a new display. There is a HUGE topic about screen burn in SGS section. It's worth a read.
I got my galaxy s in August last year and there is a large amount of burn in especially where the clock is.
You can check the individual colours in SGS tools or the xda app when you first open it.
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I have a Galaxy S. For my phone, It took around 4 months to burn down some pixels after keeping the Screen on for about 3 hours a day. The Status bar was visible on blue background along with screen burn where AM and PM is displayed.
Best Practice is to keep changing the Orientation of the phone frequently and use a Theme with transparent status bar and switch to 24 hour clock to prevent burn in of AM or PM pixels, since they are ON all the time.
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I haven't had any burn-ins whatsoever with my SGS. I had it since October and used it everyday. None. Just checked after reading this thread. None whatsoever.
Koreans are very critical of things they buy. They are one of if not THE country where consumer reports are spread fastest due to their connectivity with the web. Things like this is just NOT accepted over there. And there would be a country outrage especially regarding Samsung products. I highly doubt this is the case. Maybe you have a one off defect.
The Burn-in is caused by the short life of the blue pixel.
I suggest don't make blue pixel lit in the status bar.
I don't know if there has any launchers could make Time and Signal status area displayed in yellow or green rather than white.
My nexus one had status bar burn in within the first month. Still there, no way to reverse it.
But using launcher pro is best solution which hides the status bar completely.
Same here I have had an S1 since it was launched. I used it heavily every day, the screen was on a lot as i used it as an ebook reader. There is zero burn in (checked using screen test).
A friend has one as well, which he bought at the same time as me, he is very critical of every detail, and there is zero burn in on his either.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
That's what two year warranties are for I guess. Like post above, I would love to hear of successful replacement for original sgs.
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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Many people exchanged their nexus one, desire, galaxy s, for a new screen and the burn in just happened again after a month on the replacement. Not much can be done just live with it.
How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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I`m going to use my SG2 as I want, i`m not going to worry about screen burn in, if it happens which i doubt it,i`ll be demanding a replacement . No one should have to use any programs to hide status bars etc, just to try and prevent it. If it happens then in my opinion its a defect and should be replaced.
Did anybody try for a replacement with the First SG that suffered screen burn...
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+1
warranty ain't issued by Samsung for nothing. Loving this phone. Its blazing fast since day 1 and ain't getting slower. Over 150 apps now installed. Still as fast ==3
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Doesn't effect the user much. Barely visible on daily use.
I9000 since august, no burn in so far , used everyday..
I9100 since, well less than a month, ofc no burn in
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How serious of a burn are we talking about here? A slight shadow or a full on watermark type situation??
Just curious as mine is en route but if this is as bad as some are making out then it will be a deal breaker for me....
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Its very very light, barely noticeable unless you look hard for it on white web pages. This is prob why not everyone sees it cause they are looking for something much worse.
I have a slight temporary image retention on my phone, it only lasts a few seconds after using the keypad or the circular lock screen etc , but its pretty noticeable on a dark background
Sure, it fades after a few seconds, but I'm quite concerned that it'll cause lasting damage over time.
I'll try get some snaps, later.. my phone is er, 3 days old
Ive had this powerhouse of a phone for just under 16 Hours, Screen has only been used for around half an hour etc,
Ive just noticed some screenburn on the screen The four buttons - (Phone, Contacts, Messaging, Apps) are visible on the screen when I look at a grey-ish background (Such as the speedx initial bg). Ive been through 6 Galaxy S2s, Three of them had this issue - Is it me, or is this a bit weird? Phone screen on for only 30mins since it was factory shiny&new, and theres already light screenburn.
Is this a characteristic of SAMOLED Plus, or is this a faultly batch? (Im on my 5th replacement phone from Amazon due to various faults). It seems a bit weird, a phone thats cost near £475 inc has this kind of issue.
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(Picture attached, You have to look quite carefully to see the greyish outlines of the boxes)
It doesn't look screen burn as it looks coloured. it might be the app you are running has transparency.
afaik, OLED does suffer from screen burn like plasmas do - potentially, but not that quick!
Well, it can happen. After a month i started seeing the same thing when pulling down the notification bar. So it's not app related, cause i don't use other launcher, i can clearly see the shadow of the 4 icons for a few seconds when pulling down the notification bar. They disappear pretty quickly, i'm not that bothered about that.
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
hi i dont know if my post will help or not
put i have a samilliar proplem with my sgs2 screen
i have proplems with colors like grey and dark blue
i will attack photos for u to see if u have the same proplem with colors like me
and my phone is only 14 day old
i really dont know if the colors are normal or not
p.s: make ur display 60/100 to see the colors
on my sgs1 the screen was way better
the first two pics are of the grey color ( to see if u have the same like this pic open msg and write a messege there is an option to write sound messege click on it
it will show the same thing see if u have the same like me
and the third pic is of the home screen to compare see if there is something wrong with ur screen
also could some one please look at his device and my pictures so i can now if there is something wrong with my device
thanks alot in advance
EarlZ said:
Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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Seems like a SAMOLED+ limitation as you say. I was just curious, it shouldnt bother me much whilst im using my phone normally.
ashish.vig said:
I just got my screen replaced, because of the screen burn issue, had a violet patch on top left, right where the viber icon sits, wihc caused the pinkish tint screen. Got my screen replaced in under 20 mins at samung service centre in Mumbai.
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If the screenburn gets really bad, I suppose i can always just use the 2yr Warranty I have on the phone to get the screen replaced. Waste of an invisibleshield though.
Considering the phone is less than a day old, the screen might go really weird in 2-3 months - Which is what im worried about.
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on my sgs1 the screen was way better
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I would have to agree that the S1 screen is was a better display even if did have a more jagged edges on the fonts.
I have a similar issue in the messaging app, but with the keyboard. If I 'enable'(/turn on/whatever) it then disable it, it's 'shadow' stays there for a couple of seconds. It is however not a permanent burn in, so I think it's just the screen's limitation and it doesn't really bother me as this screen is still by far the best I've ever used.
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Also notice even if you just got the phone the very first second the digital clock actually burns through the notification tray and slowly disappears, I think its a technology limitation on the SAMOLED+
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wouldn't that screw up video playback though? sounds more like a software bug
I turned the clock on the notification bar back to 24hr , as i read/saw the AM/PM can burn in as they are displayed a lot longer then the 24hr digits which move at least every hour.
I just discovered this issue last night. I had been noticing a few lines here and there on my regular usage and I thought it was just a defective screen. Through the use of Terminal's blue screen, I realized that it wasn't defective.
I have a car dock, and use PowerAMP in the car every day. As you can see above, those burn ins are the buttons in PowerAMP. I went to take a picture of my SGS2 with my N1, and while looking at the blue screen on my SGS2 through the display of the N1, I noticed the N1 had the issue too!
I'm trying to run JScreenFix now to see if it solves the problem, but I highly doubt it.
Will Samsung even honour the warranty for things like this?
I have an SGS1 of 1 year old and my SGS 2 bought in may. Side by side, I will never exchange my SGS2 for another SGS1. Screen quality (colours and details) is by far better on SGS2. No comparision
I also don't see any burn in in both devices (keybord test, status bar...). Maybe some defective devices around that you just should exchange
If you want to test your screen or anything on your phone type *#0*# into the keypad
If the burn don't show up on green blue or red then its something else
I also have the same issue. I can see shadow of the System task bar. It was quite vivid on RED and it shows as lighter blue on blue colour. And on white it became pale white. Bright yellow as well on yellow.
I've tried various things like put the screen on full brightness on Black and Red and blue but still have the shadow there.
I will see if i can get my warranty repair.
I just wanted to confirm that the SGS2 sure can have a Burn In, as it was declared before as "Burn In Proof".
I noticed it while playing the recently released Game "Osmos HD". The game's color temperature is pretty blue-dark, and thats where I can see a slight burn in of the Task Bar.
Afterwards I checked my screen with various LCD Test programs and BAM - with low brightness I see slight burn in of the whole task bar. I can even see the signal indicator, the battery percentage and the spot where the clock sits.
But its only visible at very low brightness and a blue-purple coloring.
I called my brother, who has the Galaxy S2 as well, and he directly went and checked with LCD Tester as well. He, too, reported to me that he also has a slight screen burn in of the task bar, tho its very tough to spot. I guess, if you dont know its there, u wont notice it.
We both have our SGS2 models now for roughly a year, and the screens already seem to decrease in quality and stability.
I am a fan of Super AMOLED+ color quality and contrasts, but my 2 bothers and me have all the yellow tint issue, tho its not very drastic, and all devices start to get kind of a permanent screen burn in.
Its really sad to see that the otherwise fabulous screens already show its age. I hoped that Samsung learned from the SGS1's issues and user feedback, but sadly, it seems like they kind of ignored the fact that the Super AMOLED cant take much action...
My girlfriends Desire HD's screen (which was my phone before I got the SGS2) is still showing good colors. Sometimes I think about getting an LCD device again...
I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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I think what most posters in this thread are reporting is Samoled ghosting, ie image retention for a few secs. Its not permanent, unlike burn-in, which some people may experience after some months of usage.
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No, its not ghosting at all.
The taskbar image thats burned in is from MIUI. And since I am running either and Sammy ICS Build or Androidmeda for a while now, this image must've been there for longer than I thought.
As I said, I just noticed it yesterday while trying out the Osmos HD Demo. And its clearly the MIUI taskbar. Must be there for more than a couple of days already.
No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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No screen burn on my Galaxy S2! Btw, been comparing screen to iphone 4/4s and Galaxy S2 screen way better! You have to have some sort of "telescopic" vision to notice resolution advantige on 4s... Who anyway reads webpages fully zoomed out? LoL... With magnifyng glass?? Contrast and colors advantige is huge on galaxy side....
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I dunno why u are now comparing with the iPhone 4/4s here, but thanks ;-)
For how long are you using ur Galaxy S2 now? Mine is running non-stop since a roughly a year now.
And yes, it seems like a permanent screen burn in on my end. Just checked again, same visibility of the probably weeks-old MIUI taskbar.
Hi
I am a little worried about burn in issue. So i would like to hide status bar to minimize it. I have heard some galaxy s2 users have this issue.
I tried several launchers and they only hide status bar on launcher screens. When I use application it does not hide it.
I am wondering if there is any way I can hide status bar all the time.
Thanks
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Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
All AMOLED have potential burn in issue. See wiki page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic_LED
Unfortunately it is more likely to happen compared to LCD or IPS as AMOLED as it burns itself.
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Unless you're using your Note as a primary display for your desktop and leaving it on 20 hours a day, I don't think there's much of a chance of burning in...
Unless you're gonna contantly use your Note for 5+ years, don't worry about it.
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Burn in? Wow, it's been a few years since I have heard that term! I see no reason why the Galaxy Note, or the S2 for that matter should ever have a burn in issue...the technology just does not allow that to happen...
On another not, the Note and the S2 have different screens. The S2 uses a Super AMOLED Plus RGB, while the Note used a Super AMOLED Pentile.
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
regarding the OP's question. LauncherPro among other 3rd party launchers only allow hiding of the notification bar on the home screen. There are several google help forum posts asking google to implement a setting that would allow you to hide the notification bar in apps. The official request was denied by google citing that the notification bar is an integral part of the android os and therefore should be constant throughout apps. Now there are apps that require full screen pixel width like angry birds and such but that is only if the developer codes the app to NOT show the notification bar.
Bottom line its up to developer to include a hide notification bar setting as google will not cook it into the OS as an option.
Hope this helps.
Here is the official google response from an android dev http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9063
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Thank you inurb. Now I understand why I cannot hide status bar.
Thank you again.
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ADW Launcher has a feature that hides the notification bar when you swipe UP on the screen. Apart from that, if we can change the fonts on a regular basis, we might avoid this issue.
Is the process of burn-in similar to that on Plasma TV screens?? Then the solutions (or things to avoid) would be the same as well for SuperAMOLEDs. There wouldn't be any apps available that could facilitate pixel shifting, would there??
I come from the land of LCD, so I'm terrified of any possibility of burn-in on the new shiny monster!
BTW, Go Launcher EX also has the option of hiding the notification bar (and the dock menus as well!)
I've had the PM from the clock on the status bar burned into my Samsung Captivate's screen....as well as the digits from the clock but they're less defined.
If you are like me, you use the device 50% portrait and 50% landscape.
Wouldn't that pretty much eliminate the burn in concern?
I had the Wave/S1/S2 all of them had this "Burn-in" or rather burn out issue. The Galaxy S2 had the shortest time of only 2 months of use while the Samsung Wave took about 9 months and the S1 about 4. Only the "M" sumbol and the battery indicator burned in though.
Hi All,
came across this thread when looking for a solution for SGS1.
it seems that Burn in is indeed a problem for AMOLED screens.
in my situation, I've found a burn cause by Waze (of course, any app that would leave the screen on would cause it).
sadly enough, my phone is only 6 months old and I use Waze ~30 min. a day - not much for a burn you think? wrong!
for now, i've set Waze to hide the point bar and the zoom control, but still many objects on the screen are static - including the notification bar.
does anyone has a good solution?
I'm wondering if "burn-in" has to partially do with the environment the phone is being used in (the other being reason being a bad batch). For example, tropical (ie. "hot") environments may cause screen issues sooner because the screen can't cope with the heat?
I had my S2 for about 7 months before getting the Note and the screen was on around 40-50 minutes a day. Didn't notice any burn-in during the entire time. I always kept the phone's screen out of direct sunlight, and it was winter/autumn during the time I was using my S2.
I saw an S2 got a burn in within 2 months for the lock screen. =)
It's not just burn-in, I believe it's a combination of the burn-in and the specific colors in the LEDs dimming (i.e., losing their initial brightness).
It's best to change wallpapers every so often to make sure that the LED colors are wearing out evenly. If not, over time, you'll get weird tints in parts of the screen due to a dimming of certain colors, etc.
This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
Yup, this is why I still prefer standard LCD currently, or Super LCD. Sure, the blacks aren't blacks, but at least the tech is tried and true. =)
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This burn in issue is very troubling to me and may force me to reevaluate my intention of getting the Note. I just Googled AMOLED and the Wikipedia article seems to imply the organic material degrades over time and I'm thinking this is the cause of the so called burn in issue.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED
The other thing it mentions is the dramatic difference in power the display uses depending on the colors being displayed with black letter on a white background eating more than 4X the power of white letters on a black background.
This bothers me not just because I was planning to get the Note but I was also looking at the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7. If a phone has problems with burn in problems in as little as half a year how long before a tab with an AMOLED/SAMOLED display has the burn in issue.
On the upside, knowing that switching the colors can greatly reduce battery drain is good to know...
Brian
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Hardly a fix but I use Opera for web browsing so the status bar is hidden for me (and full screen browsing is lovely )
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This wins silliest post of the week.
AmoLED's are notorious for burning wearing out especially blues and greens. Look at any galaxy S gt-i9000 that have been used for more than 4-6 months and you can clearly see the wearing out of the led's where the notification bar is static.
Static images on an amoled screen eventually wear out the pixels fading them out. This is a known fact and I'm reminded of it every time I look at my galaxy s.
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It's something you "Tech guys" seam to leave out when you do your iPhone vs Android discussions, I have never read up about it anywhere. You would think such a glaring problem with be talked about more. I'll have to look into it more now that I am waiting on the White Note from hantec.(coming from the iPhone 4 that I have had for 18 months now with no issues other then the inferiority complex in screen size)
Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
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Take a photo with another phone... the solution is change the screen.
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But what is he trying to say. I don't see anything wrong in the screenshot.
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I'll try to show you you with this screenshot.
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Hi everybody,
Since a few days a got this blurry facebook page in my screen. How could I solve this problem please ?
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Do you mean a ghost image? If so, it's a common problem of amoled displays. You must not being for a long period with the same image in the display. Do you know, for instance, that samsung as applied in the new S8 a almost invisible scheme to move time to time the virtual home buttons to avoid burn the display?
It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
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It's exactly that: a ghost image. It is the first time I notice that
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Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning to avoid the screen burn in is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use for a long time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
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Ok. It's common my friend, but most of people don't notice that bcause wallpapers are not bright enough or don't have regular colors etc. etc. For see the effect that AMOLED screen don't resist to much and burns easily, you can notice that in demo cellphones in retail stores. It's also the reason that sometimes they use videos instead static images...
There are a few apps in google store to fix that. What they do is being about 8 hours presenting strong colors to the screen alternately (I think for burning all the screen evenly). I tried some in my galaxy S5 but no results... Any case you can try...
The best thing to do since beginning is not abuse of screen brightness and do not use so much time static images or images with strong sharp colors like the strong blue bar at top of Facebook...
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I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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I don't see it in that screenshot or on my phone even.
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
If you want to notice that in your own phone try to have a regular white image in your phone above all screen area. Perhaps you can notice already at least the battery percentage, watch digits, or wifi or network scale in notification status bar place. Try it
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we don't see that in his screenshots because screenshot is a digital pure image, not the image that he sees in HIS display. For us to see the ghost image in his display he must take a photo with another outside camera
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Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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Is this problem with all phones? I have S8 plus and it doesn't seems to have this yet.
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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Yes is a problem of all AMOLED screen phones, like plasma tv's - burn-in screen problem, you can search in internet. If your phone is a S8, is too new to be burned already. Also If you take those advises I said probably the problem take more time to appear. Any case I wrote any posts above too the Samsung trick with home virtual buttons to avoid or disguise the burn-in and ghost image of home buttons. It's one reason that I prefer physic buttons...
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I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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I also have s6edge edge plus which also has amoled screen. No problems yet. So I have to keep brightness to lower level and don't keep an image with bright colors yeah ?
How can S8 started having it?
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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yes, more or less that you said. But first you must understand the technology. While LCD screens have a led light bulb that illuminate all screen and respective pixels (passive) and this ones not have own light, only take several colors, in amoled screen are the pixels who make the emission of light. This light of each pixel is too strong for it size. It's the reason why amoled screen is more detailed, vibrant colors, bright and with a infinite contrast. Now think, if you have a static image that is half white, half black it means that half pixels are turned on burning in the maximum while the other half ones are turned off spared. If this image are presented for a long time it means that half of pixels are already stressed while others are new in their maximum power of brightness. Now can you take easily your own conclusions why this happen and how can you try to avoid it? But it's only avoid a little bit, because in the end, there's no solution for it, unless you don't use the screen...
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I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that notification bar is not presented, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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of course I can't secure to you how many minutes you must avoid to be on same screen! Simply try to avoid it as you can. For instance, I can tell you that my Samsung galaxy S5 suffered a display burn-in because I used S-view cover. The window area of the S-view case became dimmer (burnerer) because when it was close, only this area was illuminated at the maximum bright when notifications came like messages, mails or phone calls.
Also I became noticing that that area at the top of screen of notifications bar, wifi bar, network bar, battery and clock (that always is black) - in a regular color photo presentation that that notification bar doesn't appear, that area was more brilliant because the pixels were most of time off, and also I could see the battery, wifi and clock ghost image. I became noticing that, after 6 months of purchased the cellphone...
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
thahim said:
I didn't get this problem on my s6 edge plus
Anyways for how long is it safe to stay on same screen?
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If it's like that it must burn in the always on display part of the screen or the nav bar.
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As you can notice, the "always on" objects are moving time to time to avoid burn in of those pixels. The same for the home buttons in the galaxy S8. The black bar or tab in the top, or the blue bar in same area of facebook or other app's like some browsers, whatsapp etc. there's no chance to avoid the dimmer difference between the rest area and this one, also ghost numbers of clock, battery and so on. Of course as much of bright you have in scale, faster will be the burn-in effect and more you'll notice ghost images or tabs.
Me, to avoid that also, I installed a black theme background, not only to save battery ( in AMOLED screens white illumination screen area drain battery) as also to avoid white and strong color areas, cause these ones burn faster the pixels