I want to buy Shield TV but - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Guys I want to buy shield tv but a few question before I do
is it worth it ?
Also does buying it from UK have any difference than buying it from U.S ? or it's all the same and it depends on the country I login from or the kind of account I use on it ?
Do I have to pay for GeForce Now to Stream my games from a gaming PC ? if not what am I paying for in Geforce now ?
I read I can install apk sideload stuff but do apps like popcorn work on it ?
and if I do get it should I update it or not ?
Can I mirror windows on the Shield ?

For me the purchase was totally worth the price. I opted for the pro bundle with the remote control and stand. Even with the add-ons, for me, the cost was still acceptable. With the new Marshmallow update, it makes it easier to format a micro SD card for internal storage, so you can get the less expensive 16gb version and just drop in a 128GB micro SD.
There is no real difference if you are using it in the UK. If you plan to subscribe to GeForce Now, there is not difference in content from the US.
You do not need to pay for a GeForce Now account to stream your PC games. You will just need to have a compatible Nvidia graphics card on your PC.
I don't have popcorn installed, so I am unable to comment on it.
If you do get it...consider updating if only for the ability to format a micro SD for internal storage.
Shield TV has Chrome cast built in so you can "Mirror" your desktop by casting it from the Chrome browser via a chrome extension.
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Thanks for the reply!
But so I have to " Pay " 8 Dollars For me to stream my games from my Gaming PC to the Shield TV? I remember having the shield handheld and I didn't pay for streaming my games from PC to Shield .
Now I have to pay for it x.X that's a huge let down

No, you only have to pay if you want to stream games from Nvidia's cloud gaming service. Streaming from your own PC is free, but your PC must have an Nvidia graphics card.
If you want to remotely control your PC from your Shield then Teamviewer should work, but I haven't tried it.

Mogster2K said:
No, you only have to pay if you want to stream games from Nvidia's cloud gaming service. Streaming from your own PC is free, but your PC must have an Nvidia graphics card.
If you want to remotely control your PC from your Shield then Teamviewer should work, but I haven't tried it.
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Worth it.
I would go with the 16GB version and get a 128 or 200GB SD Card. It takes less time to change firmwares if you are into that. I have the 500GB and just to root it you need to unlock it. This process takes about 2 hours. But on the 16GB it takes a lot less time. Around 5 mins. Huge difference. Plus with Android 6.0 and adoptive storage the 16GB +128GB is a lot better managed since essentially you have more space locally to add games. Some of my games are about 2GB. They add up quick.
That being said, I wish I went with the 16 GB.
As for for the HUB. It is nice for $8 a month(3 month free trial).
The reviewers say "It is like having Netflix for games". Kind of true. True you do have many free games to choose from but there are many that cost big money. Some games are PC games and some are Android(Google Play).
Take for instance LEGO Jurassic park. It is $40 on the game HUB. And $5 in the Market. The HUB version is CO-OP and the Market version is not. I have not done much streaming to local PC but found it for $12 online. If you do not have an nVidia card there alternatives. I just have not took the time to experiment. I do know the alternatives do work. Sometimes just as good as the nVidia solution.
Another is Star Wars: Knight of the Republic Through HUB/Google Market $9.99 or get it for $0 through Amazon Under Ground.
Keep in mind a lot of games on Amazon Underground that are free mean they are free. That means the in-game items are free as well if noted. E.g. Sonic Dash and Beach Buggy Racing. Just look for the Actually Free banner on the game icon. The Actually Free means you can level up or get better gear and not have to pay for it. One caveat. You may be saving online to the Amazon Eco system instead the Amazon Eco sytem. No biggie if you know this ahead of time.
And as for connecting to the shield remotely some good choices are:
1. As said before TeamViewer. This is good if you get it to work. I had it working on Stock and StockRestyle but something happened and I no longer can get it to work. It does work on Full Android 1.2. Image quality is pretty good.
2. Droidmote works too but use an earlier version. The newer version will not see your mouse or keyboard actions. Image quality is so so(for me).
3. Vysor works pretty good but you will need ADB on and your Shield connected via the USB cable to your PC with the correct drivers loaded. You can also share a web link to a system outside of your network and connect that way. This seems like a temporary connection. Image quality is pretty good.
4. RemoDroid works too. As far as I can tell you need to be on the same network. You can connect to shield form another Droid of with a PC using the IP or the recommended JavaClient.
The Shield TV is great.
But take these in consideration
1. Do I want to plug and play? This works for that but you will find out that the options may be limited for you if you you like to time.
2. This is a powerful little box and if you want to go further than stock and are willing to try things the playing field will get bigger.
Research. Then research some more.
Check out Stock Restyle and Full android Marshmallow. Read everything. Some things are easy to do, some things are spread out and others impossible to know about if you have not read every post. This is just the nature of a message board. I am sure someone will put all the tips and tricks in a #1 post or sticky somewhere.
These of course is my opinions. Any products and prices are my experience. I do not want to push anyone in to any direction not of their choosing.

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Considering the Kindle

Hey everyone,
So I'm taking online classes for web design and new media, and it deals a lot with online reading, video watching and I have to do my assignments on my Macbook pro.
I was thinking of getting a tablet that will allow me to read my text books easier and watch my instructor videos while I work on my laptop. I know it only has 8GB's of storage, but I would only load in one week's worth of video at at time that can equal up to about 100+MB total (or use my Mac as a media server and just stream it).
I don't think a 10" tablet is the way to go for me, because I want something a bit more portable and obviously low cost with a quality build. So I came across the Fire and did my research, I feel like I'm sold on it and I come here to get your opinions on it too.
I've had an iPad before, it's cool, heavy and large.
How's the email experience?
Does the browser support flash and how is the browsing experience?
Can I download the Dolphin Browser on this? Or is the default browser better then Dolphin?
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.
From what you describe, the Fire should be a good fit for your requirements. It supports flash, the native email app is adequate,
And it will run Dolphin browser.
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The dolphin browser doesn't show up on the stock market. I bought the Kindle because I can mess around with flashing custom ROMs. If that's not your thing I'd suggest looking at the Blackberry Playbook. More storage and better stock experience I believe. There is supposed to be an update this month to add an email client. Not sure if there's a different one in their market.
Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.
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Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.
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Thank you all for your comments! And yes, I do have an amazon credit account and regular account, so that's definitely something to add to the pro's. I was thinking of flashing it, but for my purposes, I think the stock OS will do just fine. How much cloud storage do you get? I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?
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I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?
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I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though
dovazaan said:
I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though
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it only stores amazon stuff and its a dollar a gig beyond 5
What the Amazon app store doesn't have I get at 1Mobile Market and getjar. 1Mobile seems to get the updates more regulary then getJar though. They have Dolphin HD which works better then stock IMO, along with drop box, and box. Which is 5gb free each with those. Box had a free 50gb promo awhile back which i was able to get in on. Not sure if they are still doing it though. I run stock and they all loaded easily through the 1Mobile app. I also got the facebook and twitter apps from there as well and have no complaints so far.
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There's a low-key special going on right now at Walmart - buy a Kindle Fire for $199 and get a $50 Walmart card. So, in effect, you're paying $149 for the Fire. I don't how much longer it's going on, but that's a great deal.
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I would get the kindle fire
The fire is a great pick and any app can be loaded from a Pc transfer if you choose not to root.
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What do you think of the Seagate Wireless HD device? They have a 500GB unit with a wireless radio that should allow you to stream or access your files from the kindle fire.

Amazon announces the Fire TV Stick

Amazon has announced the Fire TV Stick this morning. It is capable of the full Fire TV experience. It's $39, but for 2 days only Prime members can pre-order it for $19. It has 1GB RAM, 8GB storage, a dual-core processor, and dual band MIMO wifi.
It comes with a basic remote that doesn't support voice search, although it is compatible with both the voice remote and game controller. There is no ethernet or optical audio. It cannot be powered through HDMI, so it needs external power.
Here is a comparison chart.
Since xmas is coming...
This could be a too much of a wish, but I was wondering sth:
I have a Motorola Lapdock and I see people use that device with the andorid TV sticks together as a portable laptop/tablet kinda device. I was looking for those sticks but most of them have bad reviews and outdated hardware for today. Amazon's fire stick make me excited, because the very first thing come to my mind, hacking this stick, install an android OS and use with Motorola Lapdock as a portable laptop.
I wonder such thing would be possible with this device. I ordered 2 with this great introduction price, and I am waiting to hear from you if such wish would become true?!?!?!
(santa hear me!)
What's the chance of being able to sideload apps, install Google Play Store, root it, etc?
I ordered one and may order more (even at $40) to replace a couple of ATV2s around the house which are running XBMC. My main hope is for MHL/HDMI-CEC control allowing for at least basic control through the TV remote... otherwise I won't be buying more than the one because I use Harmony remotes in pretty much every room in the house and won't allow the addition of something like LIRC or other IR receivers like the full Fire TV does. Even if I can't sideload full XBMC, I'll be fine running SPMC which is already free in the Fire TV section of the Amazon App Store, or even PLEX as a worst-case as it's already confirmed for the Fire TV Stick.
Would live something like this where i can simply install openelec and boot straight into xbmc.
Also looks like this is only for USA members which sucks lol. I have amazon prime but UK
Pre-ordered. I hope I can get XBMC on it
just ordered 2, $40 is a steal for two of them!! This will look good right next to my FireTv, Ouya, Mojo, chromecast and nexus player.....wait how many ports does my TV have?!?! lol
I would order a few of these if they would ship to Canada but unfortunately they don't. I even have a US prime membership. If anyone would be willing to ship me a couple please PM me. I'll pay for shipping, etc. no problem. I would really like to get in on the 19$ deal they have on right now.
For what its worth, it does run on android. Exactly the same as the Fire TV does apparently.
This is from their Dev Channel: https://developer.amazon.com/public...-in-the-Living-Room-with-Amazon-Fire-TV-Stick
Can this mirror my android screen without wifi present? or with a wifi router that has no internet?
I work at a fire station which has no internet, i have a data signal on my cell phone, but im not leaving my cell phone there when im not there. So can you connect an android device directly or if I have a spare router plugged in but not connected to anything? Or send videos from my GS5 to it?
Thanks!
I don't see it say that you have access to the App Store...do we have any confirmation that you can download/sideload apps to it? That one feature will make this either a great deal or just a good one.
I don't see it say that you have access to the App Store...do we have any confirmation that you can download/sideload apps to it? That one feature will make this either a great deal or just a good one.
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Id imagine it has some sort of app store as they mention gaming (200ish games) and i cant imagine they preloaded 200 games onto it with 8GB storage total.
I just ordered 2 @ $40 as well. Might even replace my Vizio Co-Star with one if it works well. Ashame the remote doesnt allow voice control but at $20 for the device and remote i wont complain. Also impressed this is stand alone unlike the Chromecast. Looks like my expected delivery isnt until Dec 10th though, almost a month after release
I just ordered one. Probably end up being a waste of money, I'm hopeful that Google Android TV will be better than FireTV in which case I'll swap out my current Roku/FTV boxes for GATV boxes, but for $20 I figured why not...
edit: My assumption is they are the same OS/functionality as the original Fire TV boxes, just lower hardware specs. If you can run something on the FTV you should be able to run it on the FTV streamer, possible performance issues aside. If you can side-load it on the FTV, you should be able to side-load it on the FTV steamer.
Maybe they add usb mass storage support to the fire tv now as there are not a lot of reasons to buy the fire tv instead of the new stick...
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Id imagine it has some sort of app store as they mention gaming (200ish games) and i cant imagine they preloaded 200 games onto it with 8GB storage total.
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200 games isn't a lot. It sounds like a reduced library App store.
I guess my line in the sand is whether we can get XBMC/SPMC on it, or not. I tried streaming from my desktop to the Chromecast before, and the latency was no bueno. I couldn't even watch it. Adb/sideloading function would make this thing scream.
My mother in law just picked up 1 for herself and one for me. Can't beat $20 a piece. Hopefully XBMC won't be a problem on the latest firmware.
BonezMontana said:
My mother in law just picked up 1 for herself and one for me. Can't beat $20 a piece. Hopefully XBMC won't be a problem on the latest firmware.
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Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.
spyder3 said:
Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.
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I bought it even tho I don't need it. $20 isn't anything tbh
spyder3 said:
Yeah, no kidding. I wish that we knew this before I plunked down my $20 though.
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I'll take my chances anyways though because I don't watch tv in the bedroom anyways unless I'm sick lol. I was gonna get the playstation tv until i heard the ps4 streaming sucks. So the roku stick was an alternative, since I have 2 of them in my kids rooms. I just wish I had the knowledge to unlock this thing lol. In regards to XBMC though I'm getting confused as I see that some users were able to get it to work by disabling some setting.
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Maybe they add usb mass storage support to the fire tv now as there are not a lot of reasons to buy the fire tv instead of the new stick...
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Would be nice if they add usb storage to the FTV, that's my number one complaint. However, think of the FTV streaming stick like the Roku streaming stick. Cheaper, smaller, lower power cpu, no lan, and in the case of FTV no optical out. If our (my) assumptions about the FTV stick are correct, it will be a better option for a lot of people.

Playable On Mojo?

So I was shopping for games this morning and I realized just how far microconsole gaming has to go. Honestly at this point how many games can you play on Shield that you can't already play on your Mojo? I like everyone am holding on to my wallet just biting at the bit to lay down my 199.00 for my new shield console This as I am staring at a Fire Tv, Adt1,Ouya that are not even plugged in I hate to admit it but Ouya is still ahead of the game when it comes to controller based games on Android. Downloading from Google Play is a crap shoot in many cases? They also have the storage issue down pat which many of its newer Android Tv bretherin are yet to accomplish. The stupid part is, When I think about Ouya I get pissed because they just keep doing stupid sh?t:silly: Maybe it's the idea I am in love with?
So how many more boxes will I buy before I get a clue?:cyclops:
I really wonder when the Shield console will release? No pre orders are available yet, and I'm not sure what they are waiting for. The demand must be high or something. I wouldn't buy a fire TV or OUYA because the new shield will destroy those two products combined!
disorder78 said:
I really wonder when the Shield console will release? No pre orders are available yet, and I'm not sure what they are waiting for. The demand must be high or something. I wouldn't buy a fire TV or OUYA because the new shield will destroy those two products combined!
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The Shield is supposed to be in May. I wonder if Google plans to step up the content on Android TV around the same time? The Razor Forge should also be along shortly. I just want one Android microconsole that does it all
Yea and I'm tired of spending $100 dollars for ****ty micro consoles. The Shield console should definitely change that.
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Yea and I'm tired of spending $100 dollars for ****ty micro consoles. The Shield console should definitely change that.
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I can bet you that the new shield will not be 100% working.. there'll be issues with AndroidTV, limited onboard storage, etc etc.
The trick is to enjoy what works and work around what doesn't.
It's early days in the 'micro console' days.
I wouldn't be surprised if new TV's come out with AndroidTV pre-installed on cheap dual core SoC's. :good:
gwaldo said:
I can bet you that the new shield will not be 100% working.. there'll be issues with AndroidTV, limited onboard storage, etc etc.
The trick is to enjoy what works and work around what doesn't.
It's early days in the 'micro console' days.
I wouldn't be surprised if new TV's come out with AndroidTV pre-installed on cheap dual core SoC's. :good:
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Tell you what I refuse to buy another box that is strapped for storage space. I will keep my Mojo and Draco until then. Do you think NVidia would be stupid enough to release the console with a major flaw like that? I know Shield is supposed to be about game streaming but what of Google Play support? I own games on Fire TV, AndroidTV, Ouya I would love to get them all on one box but I know that's never going to happen
Do any of you own and play Ouya Games? I have been trying to decide if spending money on the Ouya platform is a losing battle? They are still adding games all the time many are good ones. They have the partnership with Playcast Media which is awesome by the way. They have the largest library of Controller based Android games that I know of. My opinion is there is a Bigboy other than just the China partners that is keeping them going maybe as a test bed of some kind. How else could they still be here? They already have a tie with NVidia? To me the whole microconsole industry is very interesting to see how this will all play out. What's your guess?
well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
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well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
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Where did you get the 500gb on the shield from?
I can't see nvidia doing so, not for 199USD.
The obox has a harddisk but it's not X1.
The future is Android :good:
gwaldo said:
Where did you get the 500gb on the shield from?
I can't see nvidia doing so, not for 199USD.
The obox has a harddisk but it's not X1.
The future is Android :good:
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NVidia for a short time had a 299.00 option with 500gb. I have since read a retraction on Android Police.
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Do any of you own and play Ouya Games? I have been trying to decide if spending money on the Ouya platform is a losing battle? They are still adding games all the time many are good ones. They have the partnership with Playcast Media which is awesome by the way. They have the largest library of Controller based Android games that I know of. My opinion is there is a Bigboy other than just the China partners that is keeping them going maybe as a test bed of some kind. How else could they still be here? They already have a tie with NVidia? To me the whole microconsole industry is very interesting to see how this will all play out. What's your guess?
well the Shield just got much more interesting offering a 500gb console......OUYA!!!
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Ouya seeks quick sale as debts mount
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-04-29-ouya-seeks-quick-sale-as-debts-mount
I never did get the ouya, the sorry dev kits said it all really.
TegraZone have a good controller game library and google play last year introduced the controller friendly icon, so that should be even better.
And now nvidia up'ing it's game.. yeah Ouya was an interesting experiment.. like GameStick
But, your right.. Ouya's worth something.. someone will buy it cheap.. and maybe make their own microconsole.. Ouya II :laugh:
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NVidia for a short time had a 299.00 option with 500gb. I have since read a retraction on Android Police.
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Looks like that option is back:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XO7AK1U/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
To bad the 16GB $199 version has no SATA port.. it has the 2.5' drive bay tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZfCBXw6K4
I hope someone hacks it.
A 1TB drive and the $199 option would have sold better then a $299 IMO.
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Looks like that option is back:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XO7AK1U/ref=cm_sw_su_dp
To bad the 16GB $199 version has no SATA port.. it has the 2.5' drive bay tho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFZfCBXw6K4
I hope someone hacks it.
A 1TB drive and the $199 option would have sold better then a $299 IMO.
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LOL You caught me in the middle of a cluster f**k. I have waited and now I can't make up my mind ? At $300 that's getting awful close to my PS4 so then I start asking myself what the Shield will offer me that my Ps4 can't? I have to wonder at this point if they should not have added the 8gig of ram and made it a true console?
To me if the 16GB version is expandable you are right it would be better to just add a 1TB hard-drive for the extra money ? . So it does have a 2.5 internal HD bay? Then I am curious if a external HD via USB will work ?
Speaking of cluster f**ks , recent reviews of Android TV have not been the greatest . Serious lack of programs and games . The Forge TV looks to be a big disaster , no Netflix or external drive support , controller issues they must have taken a course from the Ouya school of Business ?
I may be waiting awhile with my Mojo and Ouya to see how this pans out.
I think game consoles are old fashioned.... Like wearing a watch.
Yeah android TV will take a lot of time to mature.
Because it has no touch screen ... Lol remember when the mojo came out lol
But it has to done that way..
Eventually it will gain more support and apps.
There's always sideloading
I'd rather android over Sony's or Microsoft's platform.
Same, plan on sticking with mojo at least till the end of the year.
Android M External Storage Can Be 'Adopted' As True Internal Storage Or Accessed Normally With No Additional Apps:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...or-accessed-normally-with-no-additional-apps/
It looks like the Shield 16gb has done everything right (+external storage) based off of the reviews I've seen. At least better than this sh** product called the MOJO. Nvidia has saved Android TV and I hope they are happy because their product rocks!
Who is buying one? Anyone?
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It looks like the Shield 16gb has done everything right (+external storage) based off of the reviews I've seen. At least better than this sh** product called the MOJO. Nvidia has saved Android TV and I hope they are happy because their product rocks!
Who is buying one? Anyone?
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+external storage? you mean having NTFS and xfat?
Let us know if you find people adding a SATA drive as native storage to shield 16g. :good:
Ok here is what I actually found out. I have been told that you cannot move games to a USB HDD. : ( You are allowed to move games to a SD card up to 128 GB. I also heard you cannot add your own SATA drive to the empty drive bay because there is no SATA port inside of the Shield Android TV. I'm a little disappointing with this news, but I still believe the Shield is a great product.
Android M should fix this problem if the software ever comes to Shield Android TV.
wastate2014 said:
So I was shopping for games this morning and I realized just how far microconsole gaming has to go. Honestly at this point how many games can you play on Shield that you can't already play on your Mojo? I like everyone am holding on to my wallet just biting at the bit to lay down my 199.00 for my new shield console This as I am staring at a Fire Tv, Adt1,Ouya that are not even plugged in I hate to admit it but Ouya is still ahead of the game when it comes to controller based games on Android. Downloading from Google Play is a crap shoot in many cases? They also have the storage issue down pat which many of its newer Android Tv bretherin are yet to accomplish. The stupid part is, When I think about Ouya I get pissed because they just keep doing stupid sh?t:silly: Maybe it's the idea I am in love with?
So how many more boxes will I buy before I get a clue?:cyclops:
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IF ouya would of used a tegra 4 and had 2 gigs of ram, they would have done really really well. It was just to underpowered to impress. I think shield tv is going to own the living room. Mojo could stay around if they update to android tv and drop the price to $99.99
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IF ouya would of used a tegra 4 and had 2 gigs of ram, they would have done really really well. It was just to underpowered to impress. I think shield tv is going to own the living room. Mojo could stay around if they update to android tv and drop the price to $99.99
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The Madcatz store has the Mojo down to $103.99. I am pretty sure they are phasing out the Mojo as there is no reference at all on there homepage. The sad thing is Mojo at 2years old still outpowers allot of the current boxes. I looked at the benchmarks of Forge Tv, and the Mojo is neck and neck. Madcatz just dropped the ball with software and seems to have lost interest in any further development . With Razer buying out Ouya I am going to keep the Mojo and see how the new boxes come together after the bugs get worked out.
Mojo and shield
Hi all yeah bought my mojo here in UK for £89. Gotta admit the was some problems at first, but eventually have mine running sweet as a nut. Given the fact that android gaming is on the rise surely makes larger companies like nvidia to push this forward. But scince the release of ouya there has always been a common problem, the issus of compatible Google play store, even the powerful nvidia shield has its problems with that. I use my nexus 7 for gaming with my madcatz mojo controller and play store on here is vastly more. Even looking at the new shield TV console which dam looks good, still is going to have the same problem we all get. Looks to me the new shield has focused more on a device to be a PC streamer from there servers. I am for one not entirely comfortable with That. Rather use my Pc.
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But scince the release of ouya there has always been a common problem, the issus of compatible Google play store, even the powerful nvidia shield has its problems with that.
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Game compatibility on Android is often just an arbitrary lock that can by fixed by device spoofing or sideloading apps extracted from other devices (for example your Nexus 7). And if Market Helper fails in some cases or the target device hasn't been rooted I recommend installing Android X86 on a virtual machine where it's irrelevant if you damage that system when editing the build.prop file.
Mojo and shield
Yeah Google play store checks your device then shows compatible apps based on build prop. I've been modding files for long time and certainly when it came to my mojo, the only way for me which worked best was to modify the build prop. Mojo is stock ROM running moddaco mod, which rooted gave me some more access to apps, 2nd by looking at list from nexus 7 still found lack of apps mainly Gameloft. So I decided to edit build prop file, tricky and bricked device few times, but after days of tinkering and going back and forth to get the file abbreviations put correctly. Build prop file is now running as nvidia shield. With some performance tweaks to cut cpu lag out, Market compatibility is now a lot better. Now I did try out the cm12 on the mojo, liked it and although play store did show more high end games mainly some of the regular games did not show as compatible. Ie- dead trigger. Tried the modacco mod. But it didn't like that. Tonight next move I will try would be cm12, root with towelroot, then apply nvidia build prop. See how it goes, but given the fact play store on shield still suffers I might compile the build prop up from the nexus 7 or looking at the jxd line from there gaming tablets. In all like to see company's working on the goal of compiling the code right for the device to be fully compatible based on spec rather than device model and with the right integration of software for full controller support, seems its all left to us to pick up the pieces to get things to work properly. Lol

Buyer's remorse?

Hey everybody.
I've been using media streamers for a bit.
Started with a Chromecast, then Amazon Fire stick and now with a Nexus Player.
Previous streamers felt limited but the nexus player felt better.
Now I've been thinking about upgrading to a Apple TV 4 or a Nvidia Shield tv.
My question is: Do you guys feel remorse of having bought this?
Performance aside is a bit expensive compared to other boxes.
I have a pc with a GTX970 and I was thinking maybe this will work to stream some games to my living room.
Another thing, how far away from a Shield TV 2 are we? This will surely have a price a drop when they announce the second gen, although while there is no much competition I think Nvidia will sit a bit.
You've had plenty of views but no replies...so I'll chip in lol
Do I regret buying one....no. The only thing that bothers me is how spartan the app store is for Android TV, obviously this can change in the future. If you already have a Nexus then you're already using Android TV. Is it expensive? Considering the price of the Fire TV gaming bundle...I actually think the 16GB model is priced well. I got the Nvidia remote free when I bought mine, you've literally just missed a promotion to get an extra controller. Perhaps you'd rather wait for another promotion before purchasing to get the most for your money. Buying the 16GB model and upgrading the storage via MicroSD or USB HDD would make the most sense rather than the expensive Pro model with 500GB.
Yes you can gamestream from your PC, this feature is under the SHIELD HUB...you could also try installing Moonlight which might offer slightly better performance. I've tried the Geforce NOW service and the games do play quite well to be fair. Although I will say for best results forget about wifi and hard wire the SHIELD to the router...even if you have to buy some inexpensive homeplug network adapters.
What I have done is install SPMC (KODI). I have customised it to work as a homescreen/dashboard essentially, it auto starts when I power on. This way I can set shortcuts to what I want...my retro arcade (Hyperspin), Shield Hub, Remote Play (PS4), Netflix, Radio, my movie and music collection on my home PC...you get the picture
I have no idea what Nvidia are planning. Although I would guess that we would see the Shield Tablet updated before we see a new SHIELD TV. The tablet still uses Kepler tech...the Shield TV is Maxwell. If there was a new SHIELD TV it would surely be based on Pascal
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I was actually reconsidering the same like you also the apple tv.
Now I'm happy i choose the Shield! Nvidia allows you to unlock the bootloader and root the system without losing warranty, which is a great thing.
I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher).
So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great! I have adaway, Firefox with several adons and kodi with husham wizard!
The box is extremly fast! I have a logitech usbe mouse and keyboard connected and the box also works with my logitech universal remote.
Alsow with marshmello (shiled os 3.1) you can add a microsd with up to 128 GB to expand the internal storage!
I found an amazing app called "AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)" that you can use to mirror your tablet/mobile phone screen beside the standard YouTube casting
The only thing i'm not happy with is that it doesn't have a optical/coax audio output.
The apple tv is for sure much more limited and has by far not the game performance of the shield!
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
Pion33r said:
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I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher).
So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great!
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doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.
Pion33r said:
Do It
I wasn't happy with the Leanback launcher as there is a lot of stuff i don't like and the apps i installed via APK and Aptoide TV didn't show up (only with help of the sideload launcher). So i rooted it and set a differnt launcher as default! now it is really great! I have adaway, Firefox with several adons and kodi with husham wizard!
Maybe try SPMC, it's a fork of KODI. It's being developed with the SHIELD in mind. Unlike KODI, you can actually launch android apps from within SPMC (so you don't really need sideload launcher). It also integrates with the leanback launcher, providing recommendations from SPMC. Voice search from the launcher will also have links to your SPMC library. The voice feature also works with the keyboard in SPMC, so you can speak rather than type in the search box
I found an amazing app called "AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO)" that you can use to mirror your tablet/mobile phone screen beside the standard YouTube casting
Airplay is for Apple devices, the SHIELD natively casts from android devices. I don't buy Apple stuff, so I've never tried it but KODI/SPMC has Airplay built in...just turn it on in the services. I'm glad to hear you're happy with the device...I always enjoy seeing the different ways people set them up and use them!
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foomanjackel said:
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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Here in the UK that promotion ended on the 1st of May. If it's still available to you guys "across the pond"...that's great! Good looking out
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doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.
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I haven't rooted my SHIELD. I could be wrong but I think the controller issues were more to do with people flashing a different ROM after rooting...the SHIELD game pad would need to be wired for example, although that may have changed by now. As we are talking about game pads. One of the reasons root would appeal to me, is that it's required for the Sixaxis app. This app will allow the DS4 pad to connect via bluetooth (lag free), as I have the Remote Play app installed this would be nice.
My phone is rooted with a custom ROM and recovery. I don't really feel that I need say an Adblocker on the SHIELD TV to be fair. Of course there are plenty of other good reasons to root the device. In fairness I am at a point now where I know how I want the devices to be, so the thought of wiping it and doing it over "properly" is getting more appealing. Rooting would help me fix a few niggling things...for example I really would like to be able to manually add the MAME 2014 core to Retroarch, I need this core for my Retro Arcade but the buildbot for Retroarch won't add it currently.
Wish you all the best playing with your devices
discocandy said:
doe the controllers still work when you root? I Heard some about trouble with that.
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No trouble at all. I'm on the latest version of Shield os (3.1 Marshmello). What i relly love is that now i can even use Titanium backup
Next step - Xposed
foomanjackel said:
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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i actually bought mine @ gamestop in my town about 3 weeks ago. it is the 16gb version w/one controller included.... returned it today for a full refund (they put the amount on a gift card) and have just re-ordered the same unit from their website where it is the same price but now includes 2 controllers. used the gift card as payment and am just paying the shipping fee. should have the new one in a few days.
The controller works fine if you root. However, if you install a custom ROM, you will need to connect the controller to the Shield with a micro-USB cable.
The only real problem I have with the Shield is that Android TV is not nearly as capable as full Android.
Thanks a lot guys.
Hopefully I can sell my nexus player with my x360 pad on it and recoup some money for the shield tv.
foomanjackel said:
extra controller w/purchase @ gamestop. i do not know when the promotion ends, but as of this morning...its still there!
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Is that online?
Share a link please.
Silenus21 said:
Is that online?
Share a link please.
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Yes, online only. Bought mine in store 3 weeks ago with one controller. Returned yesterday for full refund which they put on a gift card. Used gift card at home to purchase online w/the extra controller. I'll be without unit for a few days while waiting for the new one, but I dont mind the wait if I can get a unit with the extra $60 controller
http://m.gamestop.com/browse/search?searchTerm=Nvidia
Thanks.
But sucks they don't take my paypal from outside USA.
And they are expensive on Ebay.
Wait, Amazon has it with the second controller for 200.
http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-SHIELD...d=1463060240&sr=8-1&keywords=nvidia+shield+tv
Silenus21 said:
Thanks.
But sucks they don't take my paypal from outside USA.
And they are expensive on Ebay.
Wait, Amazon has it with the second controller for 200.
http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-SHIELD...d=1463060240&sr=8-1&keywords=nvidia+shield+tv
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Great!! :good:
Using the 16gb model on my Sony Bravia TV with matching home theater setup with TV remote function with all shield apps including Kodi.
Missed out on free remote offer but pleasantly surprised that original TV remote gives me full functionality and more.
My only regret is that I didn't get it sooner. [emoji13]
My roku3 is collecting dust big time.
Have not subscribed to cable since 2010. Before shield was running MK-908 and was happy with setup, but the shield blows everything else out of the water.
Pp.
sent from my stone/stock S6e using microwave technology.
Yes I love mine the only thing I dislike is I bought the Pro model and you don't have full access to the HD unless you do some skull doggery. If it were easy to put a SSD in it and actually be able to hook it up to my pc that thing would be totally awesome 10/10 but alas you can't. I say get the 16GB model and go from there.
Thanks guys, got mine today.
Now to read some guides on rooting this thing.
Silenus21 said:
Thanks guys, got mine today.
Now to read some guides on rooting this thing.
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fairly simple guide here:
http://nvidiashieldzone.com/shield-android-tv/nvidia-shield-tv-16gb-root-m/
* be sure to have a usb mouse ready....you'll need it to make the "swipe to flash" when you are in TWRP. i tried a keyboard (with trackpad), the remote and even the phone app....but only the mouse would work for that step.
Thanks.
Rooted it yesterday.
Only having trouble setting up Dolphin, can't configure the shield controller and can't find an ini online.
I bought my shield to run as a Plex server because all Plex could talk about was "Shield is THE server..." It's not until you get it running that you learn that is cannot do a lot of things that my PC server handles easily. Then you find out that there's no Music Plus and missing transcoders and, btw, I hope you still have that PC because you will need it to manage your Shield Plex Server and migrate your media. Oh, and wait until you learn about file sharing with the Shield...allow yourself a little time! The punchline is that performance is tame. I do not serve 4K media, but 1080p was great from the PC that runs as a vm with 4GB.
And I made the mistake of tossing an extra remote and the (very cool and expensive) stand in my cart.
Oh well. I really need to start playing games.

Couple of questions

Hello!
I always wanted to get myself a shield tv but I have a couple of questions:
I'm going to get the 16gb model and connect a spare 120gb 850 evo ssd I have laying around to it's usb port, would I be able to use this drive as internal storage?
I'm importing it from the us and I would need a us to eu adapter to plug it in, does the power brick support 240V?
How well does the game streaming work? I'm planning on just directly connecting the shield tv to my laptop via ethernet and streaming games that way, would that work?
How is the audio quality via the controllers headphone jack? Since it's main use will be Youtube and stuff like that (and the occasional game) audio quality is rather important
Thanks!
noahvt said:
Hello!
I always wanted to get myself a shield tv but I have a couple of questions:
I'm going to get the 16gb model and connect a spare 120gb 850 evo ssd I have laying around to it's usb port, would I be able to use this drive as internal storage?
I'm importing it from the us and I would need a us to eu adapter to plug it in, does the power brick support 240V?
How well does the game streaming work? I'm planning on just directly connecting the shield tv to my laptop via ethernet and streaming games that way, would that work?
How is the audio quality via the controllers headphone jack? Since it's main use will be Youtube and stuff like that (and the occasional game) audio quality is rather important
Thanks!
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The only of your questions I can answer is related to the HD space. You can make the drive internal with one caveat. Plex will not use the addition drive space to store metadata, even if the drive is formatted as internal. Just something to keep in mind depending on your library size and if you want previews and other meta info populated into your Plex library.
I still went went the 16gb model BC its has faster r/w speed with the flash memory, as opposed to the larger but slower HDD in the pro model, and there are reports of the large spin drives failing.
Having fancy previews and title info from Plex isn't a big deal for me, I'll just disable it if my library gets too large.
Plex will still be able to use your ssd for storage of media files and as temp space for converting files for streaming on other devices.
BTW I think I recognize your name as a kernel dev for the zenwatch 2
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The only of your questions I can answer is related to the HD space. You can make the drive internal with one caveat. Plex will not use the addition drive space to store metadata, even if the drive is formatted as internal. Just something to keep in mind depending on your library size and if you want previews and other meta info populated into your Plex library.
I still went went the 16gb model BC its has faster r/w speed with the flash memory, as opposed to the larger but slower HDD in the pro model, and there are reports of the large spin drives failing.
Having fancy previews and title info from Plex isn't a big deal for me, I'll just disable it if my library gets too large.
Plex will still be able to use your ssd for storage of media files and as temp space for converting files for streaming on other devices.
BTW I think I recognize your name as a kernel dev for the zenwatch 2
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
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Well, bestbuy is being stupid af again... My dad went to the BestBuy in SF on Geary BLVD and they told him that the shield tv wasn't even announced yet (that's what the bestbuy site says as well) but you can already order it off of their site. wth?
noahvt said:
Well, bestbuy is being stupid af again... My dad went to the BestBuy in SF on Geary BLVD and they told him that the shield tv wasn't even announced yet (that's what the bestbuy site says as well) but you can already order it off of their site. wth?
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Theres a new shield that hasnt been anounced that we only know about due to FCC filings, so maybe he thinks youre talking about that one? maybe the dont carry the original anymore?
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Theres a new shield that hasnt been anounced that we only know about due to FCC filings, so maybe he thinks youre talking about that one? maybe the dont carry the original anymore?
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It was available in some stores, I finally managed to get one though... (they had one left xD)

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