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[Q] MicroSDHC, video rec., ext. hard drive, Sniffer?

Hi. I have some questions and I will be very happy if I learn the answers
Please help me to find out
1. Does Adam support 32GB MicroSDHC card?
2. What is the resolution and fps of video recording of Adam?
3. Can we plug 1TB hard drive to it?
4. Can we disable the ambient light sensor if we want?
5. Sniffer shows 1 USB drive even a USB drive doesn’t plugged. However, we have 2 USB port. What if we plug 2 USB flash drive at a time, will it work? Will Sniffer shows both of them?
6. Can leaves work in the portrait mode?

Can anybody at least give me an answer for this question :
Does Adam support 32GB MicroSDHC card?
I want to buy "Lexar High Speed MicroSDHC 32 GB Class 10" but I'm not sure will it work with Adam or not.
Thanks

can90 said:
1. Does Adam support 32GB MicroSDHC card?
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SDHC supports card up to 32 GB ... why Adam shouldn't ? I should reply during February ... because my adam should have arrive.
can90 said:
2. What is the resolution and fps of video recording of Adam?
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Don't really have any clear information but in this post on blog Rohan speaks about methode to drain power (Record HD Video and stream it over the Wi-fi networks) For me HD Video means 1080p
can90 said:
3. Can we plug 1TB hard drive to it?
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Don't really have any clue ... Rohan speaks about access on sniffer with usb pen up to 128 Gb ... But be careful that Android don't seem to have access to NTFS File System, android can access FAT32 File system or Linux Standard FS (Ext 2 to 4).
can90 said:
4. Can we disable the ambient light sensor if we want?
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No news, maybe
can90 said:
5. Sniffer shows 1 USB drive even a USB drive doesn’t plugged. However, we have 2 USB port. What if we plug 2 USB flash drive at a time, will it work? Will Sniffer shows both of them?
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I think that you sniffer groups disk by type. Android is an LINUX Distribution.
Then you should have USB 1 / USB 2 / USB 3 (there's 3 ports 2 USB Standard and 1 Mini Usb)
can90 said:
6. Can leaves work in the portrait mode?
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Don't have any clue on it, but if there's no clue it's maybe that leaves only work in Landscape mode as Sense for HTC doesn't work on landscape mode.

I dont think it supports 1tb external hdd as of yet they said its because android has a limit on its fat 32 size i think its about 120 gig or something. But said in an interview that they were looking to extend this.

Gkar3 said:
I should reply during February ... because my adam should have arrive.
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I think I can reply that too Also I hope I can reply that before February Let's say shipping is 5 days, then we can have it in 20th to 27th of January
Anyways, thank you so much Gkar3 and lilmiks.
Gkar3, I didn't see that there is a quote about "HD video", and I'm very happy to learn that,b thanks.
For 1TB hard drive, thats very bad I use FAT32 for my macbook, and it is 320GB. I really didn't understand why it doesn't support that, shouldn't be because of FAT32.
Also for microSD, I think you are right Gkar3, I will buy Lexar 32GB now. It would be very ridiculus, if Adam doesn't support 32GB micro SD.

Gkar3 said:
I think that you sniffer groups disk by type. Android is an LINUX Distribution.
Then you should have USB 1 / USB 2 / USB 3 (there's 3 ports 2 USB Standard and 1 Mini Usb)
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The Mini USB is a HOST port. Meaning that you plug in a standard size USB side of a cable to your computer and the mini side into your Adam... this will allow you to mount the internal storage from your Adam as a R/W drive on your computer. (it essentially makes your Adam's internal memory act like a 'usb thumb drive')

can90 said:
For 1TB hard drive, thats very bad I use FAT32 for my macbook, and it is 320GB. I really didn't understand why it doesn't support that, shouldn't be because of FAT32.
Also for microSD, I think you are right Gkar3, I will buy Lexar 32GB now. It would be very ridiculus, if Adam doesn't support 32GB micro SD.
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You can run FAT32 on 1TB drives, but I have not heard of an Android limit on FAT32 before. Windows XP does not support formatting of external drives to FAT32 unless they are smaller than 32GB. This is a superficial limit imposed by Microsoft and there are a number of tools that will allow you to format large external drives to FAT32.
Another thing to note is that just because the base Android system did not support NTFS out of the box doesn't mean some of the XDA devs won't be able to able to add NTFS support into a custom kernel. We'll have to wait until some of the XDA devs get their hands on the NotionInk Adam before we can see what features we can add.
Also, FAT32 has a filesize limit of 4GB... so if you are trying to keep some large, HD movies on the external HDD for playback on your Adam you may want to consider another filesystem (other than FAT32).
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I'll try to plug a large FAT32 drive into my ViewSonic G-Tablet tonight and see how it works. It's running the nVidia Tegra2 chip so it should at least be similar.

i m new as you can see but i m so happy cause i found you

For me it's Linux Kernel that rules Android then if you use FAT32 then you can create file system from 2 to 8 Tb

joshua.lyon said:
You can run FAT32 on 1TB drives, but I have not heard of an Android limit on FAT32 before. Windows XP does not support formatting of external drives to FAT32 unless they are smaller than 32GB. This is a superficial limit imposed by Microsoft and there are a number of tools that will allow you to format large external drives to FAT32.
Another thing to note is that just because the base Android system did not support NTFS out of the box doesn't mean some of the XDA devs won't be able to able to add NTFS support into a custom kernel. We'll have to wait until some of the XDA devs get their hands on the NotionInk Adam before we can see what features we can add.
Also, FAT32 has a filesize limit of 4GB... so if you are trying to keep some large, HD movies on the external HDD for playback on your Adam you may want to consider another filesystem (other than FAT32).
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I'll try to plug a large FAT32 drive into my ViewSonic G-Tablet tonight and see how it works. It's running the nVidia Tegra2 chip so it should at least be similar.
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Wow, thanks for the informations. That 4GB limit is the thing that I'm always suffering about.
You are right, we should wait for XDA devs. to get their hands on the Notion Ink Adam. Hope this device will be popular in XDA-devs.
I will hopefully wait for your updates about FAT32 driver.

OTG small problem

hi,problem i have is my n7 recognises my 16gb and my 8gb pen drives through the otg but doesnt recognise my 80gb ext hdd which i need as it has my movies and music on it and i will be working away from home soon,anybody else had this problem,if so did you solve it?

nobody :crying::crying:

tonybhoy said:
hi,problem i have is my n7 recognises my 16gb and my 8gb pen drives through the otg but doesnt recognise my 80gb ext hdd which i need as it has my movies and music on it and i will be working away from home soon,anybody else had this problem,if so did you solve it?
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Does you external HDD have it's own power? I would expect the Nexus 7 to not be able to power a physical hdd vs a usb flash drive.

ruscook said:
Does you external HDD have it's own power? I would expect the Nexus 7 to not be able to power a physical hdd vs a usb flash drive.
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my hdd only connects to my laptop it has no electrical lead as such,now its not reading my pen drives lol,might have to go back to PA as my pen drives worked ok on that ROM,WEIRD

You can try an otg mount app
Sent Via Nexus 7

Could try StickMount from the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount&hl=en

markelini123 said:
Could try StickMount from the Play Store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount&hl=en
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have that mate,i'm going to format everything then try again lol

If your external hdd is formatted NTFS, you will need a custom kernel. Or reformat the hdd to FAT32.

Connecting to drives larger than 32GB

heya...
Not sure if this is the right place to list this, but....
I found a tool that formats any drive larger than 32gb to fat32.
With it I formatted a 1TB hdd in an external, self powered enclosure and connected it to the tablet.
Holy crap it worked like a charm
The tool is called FAT32 Format...google it its free

Yeah. I was pleased to see the USB 3.0 hard drive charger cable port.

Nice find......that really opens up the possibilities.....with a hard drive that stores the stuff on my mac....I can actually use the pro as my main device. I have a 500GB laying on the shelf to play with.
Can you confirm that any pics would show in the gallery?

You can do this from diskpart too (built in Windows tool). Use the FS=FAT32 option.
http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/fixes/using-diskpart-to-create-a-bootable-usb-of-windows-8/

I seem to remember some of the later Samsung devices have exFAT support. It does not have the max 4GB size per file limitation associated with FAT32.
Not sure about the Note Pro though
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Can you give some more details. I want to connect a powered 3.0 hub to my 12.2 with an osg to 3.0 usb adapter so that I can use an external (non powered) hdd. I'd also like to try an external dvd drive.
Thanks

I used an OTG cable and plugged in my 500 MB external to it, no problem, no formatting. Do some need to be formatted to work?

500gb passport HDD not recognized in MOJO

I bought a 500gb WD My Passport drive recently, and it works fine in Windows, but I cannot get it to show up in MOJO. It was NTFS, so I tried changing to FAT32, and it's still not showing up, despite my 32gb Micro SD card being FAT32 and showing up in MOJO. I played around with a few programs that were supposed to mount the HDD, but I still didn't see it under storage, and couldn't find it in ES File Manager. If it helps, I have been plugging it into one of the front USB ports. I figured maybe it needs to be in the back, but it works fine in the front with Windows. Is there a mode that works better with MOJO than FAT32?
Edit: The only thing I need it for is to hold my roms for use with my emulators. And maybe some music videos

Based on my experience, the HDD only work in the 3.0 USB slot.

Thanks, that did the trick. Now I can use my 32gb Micro SD for my Android handheld I bought recently while I use the 500gb hard drive for my MOJO

Just ordered my shield and accessories have a few questions. PLEASE HELP!

So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?

AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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Can anyone help with some of these questions? I canceled the 16gb version and opted for the pro. I also canceled the sandisk micro sd. Can I use my Samsung ssd in usb 3.0 enclosure as adoptable storage? Would I benefit any from it as far as load times on games or should I just install to internal 500gb drive? What are the advantages of a custom rom over rooted stock rom. With stock rooted rom can I install all the same apps from Google play or will I have more options with a custom rom? Also I see custom roms of full android 6.0 without nvidia skin overlay. Are there any real benefits this and will I lose any functionality? Any help is appreciated, responses please! I get my shield Tuesday.

Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb

AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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techjunky90 said:
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
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Yeah ended up swapping for 16gb again and gonna use my Samsung ssd adopted. Found the answers to most questions just trying to decide rather to flash full android m or just root factory firmware.

Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd

AndroiderM said:
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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I think the drive is a Hybrid. Pretty good chance that NVIDIA just used a USB 3.0 to SATA chip to service that 500gb drive. So I see no reason why you couldn't have just done it yourself.
How do you know the device did not come with the remote already? I purchased the 16gb and decided I did not want the remote so I didn't buy it, yet surprisingly it was in the retail box anyway.

As far as I know it's just the shield and the controller in the box according to the Amazon description and pictures. They do sell a bundle that has the remote included but I'm pretty confident mine has no remote. You cannot add, change, or remove storage internally on the shield nvidia made sure of that.

Weather to Pro or not to Pro, you can find some more opinions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/buying-16gb-128gb-sdcard-500gb-t3399659
It all comes down to what you want to use the Shield for. If your installed games are not going to exceed those 16GB of flash (which of course will be less) I see no reason to get the Pro. Another valid point is the price difference: for the 100€ difference, I could get a 2-4 TB HDD.
On another note, I think you can find more answers around here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/shield-android-tv/

Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.

SkOrPn said:
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
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Gotcha I plan on it, I have a 256gb ssd in enclosure I want to use as adopted storage and a 4tb wd external for media storage

Personally speaking, for my family anyway I just add drives to the home server, or retire them for bigger ones. Building a Windows home server 5 years ago was the best thing I ever did for media consumption. Sadly I only have 3 SATA ports so I am limited to the amount of drives I can add
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One thing I forgot to mention: adding USB devices through a USB port will limit the speed and latency at which they are accessed.

OK how would you guys setup this is what I now have ordered and has already shipped so no going back. Idc if I use adoptable storage or not unless it benefits me. My usage will be downloading large torrent files and copying them to 4tb drive using shield as player, lots of large file gaming, kodi, Internet browsing and that's about it. Maybe hangouts
What I ordered:
Shield pro 500gb
Remote
Controllers
Bluetooth keyboard
Whatever I already have:
Samsung 256gb ssd
4tb wd my book
500gb hdd out of ps4

I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.

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I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
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Edit: I think I've got it figured out just gonna root stock rom and sideload whatever I can't get directly through playstore.