Amazon hd fire 8 progress - Fire HD 8 and HD 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So i just got my amazon fire hd 8 and im wondering if there is any big difference between the 7 inch i mean that one has custom roms and TWRP. But whats so different about the 8 and 10 that no one has tried more stuff on it. It seems like no one really has the 8 and isnt trying to change more on it. Does anyone have any feedback or work they have been working on?

The 8 and 10 are not near as popular as the 7". Plus the 8 and 10 just got root and doesn't seem to have a very good fastboot mode. Don't know that we will ever see much development for the 8 and 10.

coopmaster said:
So i just got my amazon fire hd 8 and im wondering if there is any big difference between the 7 inch i mean that one has custom roms and TWRP. But whats so different about the 8 and 10 that no one has tried more stuff on it. It seems like no one really has the 8 and isnt trying to change more on it. Does anyone have any feedback or work they have been working on?
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earlier firmware version (5.0.x) for the 7in Fire allows booting unsigned recovery.img so custom Recovery can be used
the HD 10 or HD 8 don't allow that on any firmware version
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so the firmware is upgraded? or is it a different chipset?

coopmaster said:
so the firmware is upgraded? or is it a different chipset?
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different chip
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https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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so does that mean that flashfire doesnt work?

coopmaster said:
so does that mean that flashfire doesnt work?
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doesn't seem to
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weak, i wonder are there any leads you know of that are being talked about?

I'd imagine were not going to see much going on with these at least until Flashfire is compatible. That's what I'm hoping for at least but I don't know much about dev.
I have tried using every version of Flashfire from about v.24 up on my Fire HD 8 5.1.1. All ended in the same fashion. Flashfire would basically just reboot the device after running for a few secs no matter the action or combination of options. The latest Flashfire v.30 makes it to the black screen but then hangs there for at least 20 mins and nothing. (havent let it sit longer) I did lose the ability to enter stock recovery on one of my Fire HD 8s somewhere along the way most likely using Flashify to attempt to install twrp when I first started playing around with these a few weeks back. I was finally able to get back into stock recovery yesterday on it.

But im just trying to understand the root mode. As it seems the root isnt complete because alot of apps dont work. I am checking on this because i believe fire OS is garbage and makes the devices run very slow. Still trying to work on this but mostly what i know about the progress of the HD 8 and 10 is that kingroot works and thats about it.

coopmaster said:
But im just trying to understand the root mode. As it seems the root isnt complete because alot of apps dont work. I am checking on this because i believe fire OS is garbage and makes the devices run very slow. Still trying to work on this but mostly what i know about the progress of the HD 8 and 10 is that kingroot works and thats about it.
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Let me understand this a little more clearly and Ill see if I can help you.
First off you're saying you were able to gain root access using kingroot?
Have you tried to install the Google playstore at all yet?
Also we are pretty much stuck with Fire Os for now but can improve it some.

Jstame said:
Let me understand this a little more clearly and Ill see if I can help you.
First off you're saying you were able to gain root access using kingroot?
Have you tried to install the Google playstore at all yet?
Also we are pretty much stuck with Fire Os for now but can improve it some.
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Yeah I understand that. I have google play store but it sucks and we have very limited usability with root. I understand where we are but it doesn't mean there's not improvement that can still come. Even with a locked bootloader doesn't mean everything is impossible.

coopmaster said:
But im just trying to understand the root mode. As it seems the root isnt complete because alot of apps dont work. I am checking on this because i believe fire OS is garbage and makes the devices run very slow. Still trying to work on this but mostly what i know about the progress of the HD 8 and 10 is that kingroot works and thats about it.
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what apps don't work?
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coopmaster said:
Yeah I understand that. I have google play store but it sucks and we have very limited usability with root. I understand where we are but it doesn't mean there's not improvement that can still come. Even with a locked bootloader doesn't mean everything is impossible.
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I don't use kinguser I switched to SuperSu. But yes other then a little debloating, changing the stock Fire launcher, removing the adds, and adding Google playstore to get away from the Amazon Appstore there's not much else of going on. Lots of risk goes into messing with these cause the bootloaders so there would have to be a super high demand but people are turned off by this crap Fire OS. Devs are busy people all we can do is wait and see if anything happens. Unless you have a few ideas?

Jstame said:
I don't use kinguser I switched to SuperSu. But yes other then a little debloating, changing the stock Fire launcher, removing the adds, and adding Google playstore to get away from the Amazon Appstore there's not much else of going on. Lots of risk goes into messing with these cause the bootloaders so there would have to be a super high demand but people are turned off by this crap Fire OS. Devs are busy people all we can do is wait and see if anything happens. Unless you have a few ideas?
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True but it doesn't stop us from looking into it. Well first flashfire doesn't work. If it is root we should be able to write a custom recovery (or at least temporarily) or has anyone looked at the boot partitions yet?One thing is that amazon are truly idiots because if I brick mine I don't really care they usually give out replacements left and right. I doubt we will get bootloader unlock but we should be able to get custom ROMs somehow.

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return to stock

any way to get this back to stock yet... so I can return it to walmart... or do you think I can return it anyway. haha
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Do you have TWRP installed ??? If you have just go to amazon website to download the ROM. Rename it to *.zip then copy to your sd and install, but remember to wipe your device by 3 options on the top (sry I forgot the name)
Here is a video on what to do.....
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/12/28/how-to-restore-stock-software-on-kindle-fire-video/#comment-77962
and this gets rid of twrp also?
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Trekfan422991 said:
and this gets rid of twrp also?
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Yes. The standard method of updating completely reformats the system and overwrites everything. No root, no TWRP, No FIREFIREFIRE. You should just wind up with the stock launcher.
thanks a ton guys!!! takin it back today... gonna get the asus memo 7 in. it has the tegra 3 and expandable storage starting at 16 gb for $249. coming out in a couple months.
Cant Wait!!!
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Can't wait? You better be able to wait since I'd bet iit won't be out till fall.
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q2. that means spring time. its either this or the padfone..
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In the real world, Q2 means fall because I don't believe for a second it will be by the end of June.
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I did pretty much exactly this today and still have TWRP...
rolyatkcinmai said:
I did pretty much exactly this today and still have TWRP...
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If you still have the triangle, that is FireFireFire, not TWRP.
If you put the downloaded file into the /sdcard/kindleupdates
And then used Settings -> Devices and then Update
After it was complete and it reboots, there should be No FireFireFire and TWRP as the update formats the /system directory where these were stored.
What's the use of getting something if it will have little dev support ;p
You can always bet the Kindle Fire will have dev support. It's the most affordable/popular android tablet out right now.
Now back to stock. Had an unnerving .acore error with no true solution but return back to square one again. Every twrp restore turned to be identical to to one trying to leave? Wish I could sell this.
Happy you can return yours.
I'll give you a hundred for it. A long as it's back to stock.
People complain that manufacturers are making it harder to unlock devices but after reading these forums, can you really blame them? I wonder what percentage of Android device returns are because of user error.
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nrfitchett4 said:
I'll give you a hundred for it. A long as it's back to stock.
People complain that manufacturers are making it harder to unlock devices but after reading these forums, can you really blame them? I wonder what percentage of Android device returns are because of user error.
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Bricked devices would not exist if manufacturers unlocked their hardware. How many computers get bricked because someone messed up installing linux? Oh that's right, zero.

Call to Arms! - Root detection

There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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I know that feel bro
*insert hug meme*
irzero said:
There is a big problem on the horizon.....
Lovefilm and Sky Go on my iPad have stopped working due to my jailbreak...
Turns out Sky Go doesnt work on Rooted Android either!
As much as i hate Sky as a company we dont have much choice in the UK if you want some decent channels on TV. I dont even use their app that much but this trend seems to be catching on...
More and more apps are refusing to run on Jailbroken iOS and the same will be happening on Android soon enough. They are also actively patching any work arounds or hacks to stop people running apps on Rooted or JB devices.
i really hope some of the talented people who code for android can find a good solution to this problem or even better Google comes out and tells the world that Rooters should not lose out like this.
If we can make it so much work for them to keep fixing the holes then maybe they will get fed up with trying to patch them.
Because if we dont then more and more apps will follow!
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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There are some apps out there that will temp unroot your phone so apps like that will work. then you just restore it(OTA rootkeeper allows this). Also I think Siyah kernel supports temp unrooting
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Siyah kernel does support temp unrooting, but somehow Sky Go still knows your phone is rooted, and it won't work. So far from the reading I have done there is no solution to this other than to flash back to a stock unrooted firmware.
I don't think it will become the rule on android, because there are to many apps that even need root, but at ios, probably because jailbreak is the only possibility to get, at least partially, out of their ecosystem.
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someone found a work around for the Barclays banking app I think...I'm sure it was here in general so you may find some hints there
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here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823649
[HOW TO] Barclays Mobile Banking working on rooted S3
As far as I know. Sky Go has gotten around everything so far.
I see not to far in the future a situation where you have to either root and lose lots of apps you use or lose the root lose lots of apps you use.
That's a crap situation for sure
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Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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Lennyuk said:
Sky have invested a heck of a lot of time and money to making the latest Sky Go apps very very hard to hack!
They now do a lot of checking on their severs which makes it impossible for us to hack around.
I am sorry but I don't think we will ever get sky go working properly with root, and as soon as we did sky would update the app to fix the loophole.
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This sux for sure.
On iPad they sandboxed the app in its own virtual environment. could this trick it into think its running on unrooted firmware?
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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esist said:
Google won't do anything because rooted android isn't standard android. The android platform isn't built like windows or OS X, where the default is the user having root available.
Therefore security (DRM in particular) on those platforms is built with that in mind. Android isn't.
Also, while you might have the best of intentions there are plenty of root-users who would use it to copy content offline, trick it into thinking you have a subscription whe you don't etc.
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You cant get the content without a subscription anyway, the problem has been people UDID spoofing and getting more active devices than they are allowed. Its a joke that they limit this anyway they should just make it so you can only be logged in on 2 devices at any one time using traditional methods like IP address and IMEI
alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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temporary unroot doesnt even work so i dont know how it works personally. Out of my depth on this
alias_neo said:
I can't see how there is no way around this. If the app tests root, deny it, if it scans for root binaries, change/rename them. What am I missing here? Is there some other level of detection somewhere?
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The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
irzero said:
Why would that stop wifi tablets? it works on my iPad wifi only?
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the Apple skygo app works differently, it doesn't check for IMEI.
wifi-only android tablets do not have IMEI numbers so it will always fail this check
Lennyuk said:
The Sky Go app is a bastard
This is a list of some of the things it checks (but not all)
- Root binaries
- Root App
- Phone model
- Android version
- Custom Recovery
- Custom Kernels
- IMEI checks (stops wifi-only tablets..)
The first 4 are simple to overcome, the last three cause major issues!
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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How in earth does this user space application have the ability to check custom recovery? I suppose kernel might be easy, but recovery??
Still, there must be ways around it.
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Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
Lennyuk said:
Thats the thing, we (me and two others who worked on hacking this app) couldn't work it out! But it definitely was detecting it, we tried it on Samsung and HTC devices with no root and stock kernel but with a custom recovery and sky go stopped worked, change back to stock recovery and the app works again but we could not find any code that checked it.
On most devices to get it to work you need a stock based rom, stock recovery (unless recovery is part of kernel like S2) stock based kernel (ro.secure=1 must be set!) no or hidden root. You then need to make sure you fit the device or version checks, if you don't you need a hacked app that allows you to do this.
However the latest sky go apps do a sever side check for the apps signature (so you cannot decompile and recompile without changing this). So basically we can no longer do even the most basic of hacks.
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Surely you can modify it to spoof the signature the app uses to send to the server...
They really have gone all out eh.
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Well done sky, you bastards!
I have a Nexus 7 2012 WiFi only so ytheres no chance of using it on there :'(
Thanks LennyUK

How can I revert back to 4.1.2? This update ruined my stock nexus grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
taqulic said:
4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
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Or you can use Nexus 7 toolkit to download and flash back to stock with one step
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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jt.one said:
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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Huh? Lol I got the program but your directions are scary lol im a noob lol go easy on me but the line with? Marks leaves a lot to the imagination
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I downloaded the wug toolkit but how do you install it? It only gives me options to open as picture, audio, text an so on with es file explorer.
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LoL ha ha ha ha dude I am tripping over this cuz I to have a total stock N7 and I waited for the update OTA and then downloaded it and I absolutely have NO PROBLEMS with 4.2 so I guess my question is how did he download it was it from GOOGLE OTA or from someone who posted a zip just curious GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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I'm curious if you are stock and didn't lose tablet mode or anything like that what you find so horrible about about 4.2?
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I have to agree this update should not have been released, I'm stock on the nexus 7 and its so buggy! It keeps stuttering, taken ages to load webpages , all that project butter has gone, not happy, funny enough it's perfect on my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2 stock rooted, BTW I got the update ota
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To add to this, I've just tried to set up a second user and the setup crashed once , gave me a blank screen for 10 seconds every time I pressed next, then the launcher crashed twice , gave me a blank screen for over a minute, stuttering when swiping side to side, even now as I type this its not registering a click then I click again and I get two letters ..... And pinch zoom is jerky! Wtf happened?!?! Hope there's a fix on the way, this is the one device I'm reluctant to root and install custom ROM simply because 4.1 was perfect
Guys just download nexus 7 toolkit and flash 4.1 image... Sorry, but even me (girl) was able to do this succesfully.
Lmfao ok ok you guys win haha but i am stock and it was official update. Im good on pcs but this is my first tablet, android is new to me anyway im on pain pills for broken leg from a motorcycle accident so my head is definitely not all there lately but ya lets hear the jokes about that now. And no that pervert in my pic is not me, although it fits my brain power lately lol
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
Groid said:
Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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The dev for stickymount says it may not be solvable, Multi-user by default is a nightmare.
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Yeah i noticed after updating that some of my apps that reinstalled after the update would crash when i tried opening them for the 1st time. i unistalled then reinstalled them and they worked fine after that. i too am not really liking the update hopefully i can find a way to revert back to 4.1.2 easily or theres some work arounds (especially for stick mount as mentioned earlier)
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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Completely agree. They new update 4.2 corrected a lot of bugs. The power management is a lot better and the memory management too. Ive run some test and saw that the system load is quite inferior to what it was before due to a more clean management process
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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TokenAntiAppleRant said:
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
First I wanna ask anyone who says the 4.2 update is terrible if they even tried a full data wipe/factory reset? If not, try that before accusing Google of releasing buggy firmware. It could be your stinkin data/apps fault
Pandemonium2k4 said:
Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
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Most to all the people were decent. Plenty of people pointed you in the right direction, or linked to a guide. You gotta do a little researching and educate yourself a little so you understand the whole process.
Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Nope, it's not illegal to root.. it will supposedly be illegal to unlock a phone (for another network) without the network's consent though.
Just think..there's no reason at all running custom firmware/roms/rooting can be illegal on a nexus device, why do you think the bootloader is effortlessly unlockable?
And if you think about it, no, it's not really crazy that is a "hassle" to revert to old firmware, because
A) most devices (Apple comes to mind) you can't do this, unless certain conditions apply (if you backed up SHSH blobs, etc etc)
B) if you understood the process of flashing the stock rom, and if you had ADB/fastboot setup correctly, it's simple as pie to flash the old firmware. And the "homemade software" is just an interface for n00bs (like yourself) and would not exist if it didn't use adb and fastboot behind the hood. And if you think it was hard to do what you did, you should try to do it on a device with a locked bootloader: (droid x2 comes to mind) it's a nightmare
So basically, Google has this wonderful OS and provides devs and users alike these wonderful tools (and Nexus hardware to match) at our disposable.
Idk about you, but I say kudos Google!
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Kindle Fire hdx Rom development??

Anybody know any rumors / talk of someone working on a stock android Rom for this?? Or kit Kat even... I'm definitely not interested in Fire OS in the least bit.
Thanks
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Bootloader is locked meaning no customs roms until then unless you go with the safe strap method and from what I seen people are having problems with memory and some crashing of the problems and if you have a 8.9 hdx safe strap is not supported but I have faith in this community and belive we will have roms in the future
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Really? Because there's already root tutorials in kindle fire hdx > android development.
Unless those are "safe strap"? Idk I didn't look into it too much because I don't have the kindle yet (got it for Xmas I'm pretty sure lol)
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So custom ROMs are totally possible, and I'm sure there will be one or two soon, but the issue as stated above is the bootloader is locked. This means no custom kernels which means no AOSP ROMs. This currently rules out Cyanogen, AOKP, Paranoid Android, everything like that. Everything will be Fire OS based until the bootloader is unlocked. Before yesterday there wasn't even working Play Store downloading. Progress is being made, and the bootloader could be unlocked in a couple weeks, or it may never happen. Until then you just got to stick with what we've got, which is pretty nice as far as I'm concerned. The hardware is quite nice, and with a custom launcher and Gapps Fire OS isn't terrible.
Thank you! Good to know
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Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience. I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Also note that any rom could be ported even CM thanks to safestrap. The kernel is not a problem. Im not sure i'll have the time to do so but if so i'll prove it
Merry Christmas !
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Cpasjuste said:
Well, i have one based on stock almost ready With all amazon stuff removed and full google experience.
I still have a few noob problems but i think it shoud be ready after christams.
Merry Christmas !
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Yay thank you!!! ?❤
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floodingaugust said:
Yay thank you!!! ��❤
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THOR = Hdx 7"
Only working rootable versions are 14.3.1.0 for the 8.9" && 13.3.1.0 for Thor
Kindle Fire HDX 8.9" Rooting tut
Kindle Fire HDX 7" Rooting tut
Hashcode's modified TWRP safestrap ONLY FOR Thor
Working Google Play ROM ONLY FOR Thor
Hope this points you in the right direction. Just search the threads.
Anyone know if it's hard / going to take a long time to unlock bootloader?
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May never happen
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murso74 said:
May never happen
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Is there a reason for that?
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floodingaugust said:
Is there a reason for that?
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One reason is Amazon security on the chips they use.
floodingaugust said:
Is there a reason for that?
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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these companies are getting better at locking them, and there is less and less incentive for people to break them. look at the bounty thread.. only 145 bucks. i have a Moto X which is over 1000 dollars and that still hasn't gotten cracked. i wouldn't hold on to the kindle hoping it will get cracked... if i didn't have amazon instant i would probably send this thing back (i may anyway, as i'm having wifi issues)
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Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
conan1600 said:
Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
RandumAccess said:
Exactly, thank you!
I have been around Android since the beginning and have to say that out of all devices I have seen or bought.... this one has the least amount of bloat and is one of the best...
Quad core running 2.2ghz, 2gb ram??? nothing I have thrown at it has lagged or been slow!
Best tablet out right now, fast, portable, good battery life and did I mention it is easy on your wallet too? lol
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Recon that! If only we could have working widgets and some fully working alternative launcher .. Play store doesn't bother me that much, since I get all the apps either from an alternative store or I download them on my phone and sent them to the tablet, so no big deal till now.
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conan1600 said:
Even if the boot loader didn't get unlocked working google play and a custom loader or exposed is all you really need and all are somewhat working now. I have almost every tablet ever made in this household. Nearly all have boot loaders either bypassed or broken. Already the 7 inch boot loader has been bypassed on this, a new device. The truth is the more popular a device is the quicker it is modded. If sales are high on this device it is likely to get dev attention. Try not to be such a Debbie downer
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Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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floodingaugust said:
Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
conan1600 said:
I'm not sure you are following. 1mobile market and or side loaded apk's along with a custom loader bypasses all of what you just said right now. Also, in the last few days, the play store has even been made to download on both the 7 inch and 8.9. In other words go to the general section and read, root, and install working play store on kindle and then use apex and wallpaper fix with widgets and you basically have a Google tablet with an Amazon options bar. As people get exposed framework going it will get even better than that. Boot loader crack is not necessary to make this a Google tablet. As for pure Google well that would be great for some, or cm 10.3 for others but in the end all of that is really just ui and a few options. The necessities of downloading from Google market and some customization can all be accomplished right this second. I have very few apps from Amazon on my tablet in fact. Most are Google market apps. As the bright boys spend more time with this tablet it will become even easier for the less experienced users to accomplish these things as well.
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Really? So is the carousel thing on your kindle is gone? Just the top bar? Sweet.
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floodingaugust said:
Well the device was a gift I can't just bring it back.
Basically Amazon banned me for some dumb ass reason literally like my neighbor got in trouble so now I can't use it. and when I try to buy **** on the kindle I can't use that store either so I am praying that there is some type of movement on the boot loader because otherwise this going to be one expensive paper weight.
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How in the hell does one get banned from amazon?!?

Rooting the Kindle Fire 7(7th Generation)

Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Over the past two days I have been searching and scavenging unrelentlessly for a solution to my problem. Someone got me a kindle fire 7(7th Gen) for christmas and I decided I wanted it running stock android. It came with FireOS 5.6.0.0 and recently updated to 5.6.1.0, last night I was working on it before it updated and I couldn't seem to root it. The root wouldn't go through or it'd fail right at the beginning. After updating to 5.6.1.0 I came very close to rooting and I think it is a solution in the future.
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Man that would be great, I hope someone can break Fire OS 5.6.1.0, I would love to run the newest android OS on this Tablet. Would make a great OBDII diagnostic Tool for working on cars. :highfive:
5.6.1.0 can be rooted on the HD 10. I'm told it's rooted with dirty cow via KingoRoot. If the new fire 7s have the same kernel, there might be a possibility. As of now, it appears the HD 10 2017 had an unpatched kernel that allowed for the root. it's something Amazon has yet to fix.
When will we have root?
I have three of these and need root access for them to be worth a damn!!!!
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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capcavern said:
Hello,
I also have a new fire HD7 (7th Gen) with 5.6.1.0.
It is for a kid, so I would like to root it to get amazon stuff away and install Google ones.
Is it still unrootable?
Thanks.
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Currently the only rootable Amazon tablet is the HD 10.
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Looking forward to a root install on mine keep on rooting.
for a 69$ cost, it would be worth it if i could root and get it to do the things from google play that the fire store doesnt have. Tried two 10ionch ones and i had less than desirable results
How likely it is that this device will be rooted in the future? Look like there is no development for this product.
I’m considering to get one for my kids, but without root I prefere to select another device...
Noticed a few people say they want the root so they can install Google Play store, you can without root on the current Fire 7. Just did, you need to install the framework, account manager app, play services and then play store apk. Working, but quite slow, just got the Fire 7 so may be doing a few bits in the background updating so maybe causing the slowness.. or its just been a long time since i used a £30 tablet.. haha.
+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
yelloguy said:
+1 above. One of the first things I did was put the Play Store on it. It would be useless to me without it.
The reason I want to root it is to see if it can be any faster with stock android. As it stands it is very slow for almost everything.
Should we stop getting updates at 5.6.1? Is that even possible?
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So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
ThexFlash said:
So, currently this thread is very old and I have not touched my "7 in a rather long time. It has been left in a drawer, off. Tonight after work I'll be attempting to root and will be posting my results, whether they be inconclusive or successful, I will post what I know here.
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Really hoping you're able to root it.
Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
cgregoryou said:
Just got mine in the mail. Should've researched it a bit more before purchasing but it was only $17 so I jumped on it.
It is extremely slow for a quad core, 720P device with 2GB RAM. I expected it to be much quicker. Does Amazon put that much bloatware or is there another reason it is so slow?
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Nearly every amazon app will consume resources. Many will reactivate after a force close. A lot of it is because of the apps.
Ok, thanks for pointing that out. I will probably try that Kindle tool or fire tablet tool, whatever it's called to cancel OTA and remove some Amazon apps.
I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
TECHNOFAB_11 said:
I've removed most of the stuff etc, but now I got a competely unusable tablet. Tasker etc works, but the lockscreen cant be removed. For motion detection quite bad. Rooting it also doesn't work, but that's nothing new. Should I sell it and buy a 10, should I update it? I was on 5.6.0.0 now I downgraded to 5.4.0.0
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If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
DragonFire1024 said:
If you screwed up, just so a factory reset. Without root a thing you disabled or 'uninstalled ' will come back to life and you can start over. I love my HD 10 but hate it too. Finding it difficult to get a rom to flash. Woo i guess it all boils down to what you want your tablet to do. If you have a fire 7, you will be very United due to memory and what not. HD 10 is so far excellent with memory when debloated.
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I want to use it just for a home automation dashboard. Just bought it cause it's been 30€, so I thought it could be a good tab for the wall. With unusable, I mean I can't put it on the wall, because the lockscreen is still there. It would be kinda useless to have motion detection with a lockscreen. And rooting doesn't work, or is there a new exploit? I would really love to root it, then I can finally use it. It's just lying around right now, until it can be rooted. I've removed the OTA update thingies, so no updates will be downloaded. Also it's shut down, so no problem there. I'm on 5.4.0.0 like said, if I have to upgrade to root, I'll do that, but for now, I try to stay on the lowest version possible, so when an exploit comes, I'm prepared
I hate this tablet there needs to be a root. it runs incredibly slow and I think it's because Amazon's apps are running please find a root solution

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