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New 4.4.2 Kitkat Head Unit (Newsmy Carpad NU3001)

I'm updating this post so as to provide an overview of what is discussed in the thread (and in hopes that people will quit asking the same questions over and over that have already been answered).
There is a ton of great information in the wiki here. Please read through it before asking questions here - this thread has gotten very, very (very) long and it's tough to keep up with what's happening when people keep asking questions that are in the wiki.
The below info is from November; current info is in the wiki.
WHAT IS IT: The Newsmy Carpad NU3001 is a dual-DIN Android head unit that runs KitKat 4.4.2, has a 7-inch screen, and no physical controls. It's nice-looking, very well made, and comes rooted out of the box. The manufacturer seems to be quite responsive to bug reports and feature requests, releasing frequent ROM and MCU updates to fix problems and usability issues. Oh, and we have full source code.
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MAJOR FEATURES:
Quad-core 1.6GHz Rockchip RK3188 CPU and 1GB RAM
FM radio (RDS currently not working, awaiting a software update, priusfan figured out how to hack station names if you really must)
8GB Flash
Android Box that contains CPU and most of the Android guts connected via cable that can be unplugged and removed from the car
Built-in Wifi
1024x600 Capacitive Screen
Dual Bluetooth: one is standard Android BT for use with ODB etc. The second is hard-wired to the phone app and only works for phone calls and streaming music.
Pure Android, no fugly launchers, minimal other apps that aren't bad.
4x25W amplifier
WHERE TO BUY: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/News...eral-Android-only-without-DVD/2035002543.html COST USD$339. People are reporting various delivery times, mine shipped next day and arrived a week later. Note: this is the actual manufacturer on AliExpress, other pages are resellers. Do with that what you will. There is a dealer in Spain if you'd prefer to buy from Europe, it's 417€ plus shipping with VAT included. http://exclusivecarauto.com/android-quadcore-carpad-wifi-p-1001.html
BASIC Q&A:
Is it any good? Yes, it seems to be stable and work as expected
Is there a version for my car? No. It's only a universal 2-DIN package
But I saw one for a... No, you didn't. That's a Windows CE/Android frankestein thing made by the same company. You don't want it.
Does it work with Torque? Yes.
Does it work with my SWC? Supposedly, nobody has tried it yet. There is both CAN bus and resistive connections.
Can I talk on the phone and use Torque at the same time? Yes.
Can it be rooted? It comes rooted out of the box.
What ports does it have? USB Host, USB OTG, little bitty HDMI for when you take the Android Box out of your car and hook it to a TV
What connections does it have for my car? 4 channel high-power speakers, FM antenna, 1 set of line outs, 1 set of line ins, 3 composite video ins, CAN bus low and high (confusingly labeled + and -) and the usual complement of battery, acc, ground, dash lights, reverse switch, etc.
Does it run ....? Yes, think of it as a 7-inch tablet with built-in amp and radio that looks great in your dash.
AliExpress? Yes. It's like the Chinese eBay. Buying from them is not complicated. Summer, the girl who handles orders, is responsive and helpful.
HELPFUL LINKS:
New custom ROM from user red13dotnet de-chinese-afies the unit, fixes root, adds some useful utilities, and a bunch of other stuff http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...smy-carpad-t2865525/post56381346#post56381346
Full source code to the current firmware was found, um, on the internet. We're going to have lots of fun with this device. Mirror here, careful it's over 4GB. ftp://nu3001.ddns.net/
Software to fix problems some have reported with root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56296349&postcount=292
Unboxing http://imgur.com/a/ECRtE
Android Box teardown http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56237758&postcount=245
Firmware and utility repository http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56227326&postcount=242 (note there is no reason at the moment to update the firmware)
Video walkthrough https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC8_jyVUErE
Video of software update process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVZXn9n3LM
CAVEATS:
There are no balance or fader controls, no equalizer, etc. You get 25 watts to 4 speakers and a single line out to hook up your subs or amps or whatever. Fixed in firmware 1.0.9
RDS doesn't work at the moment, they say a software update is in the works.
The microphone input is hard-wired to the phone-specific BT module. This means among other things that you cannot use Google Now voice control with this unit until we figure out how to connect a mic to it. There is plenty of USB connectivity, so it's only a matter of time. USB microphone works, including "OK Google". http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56386685&postcount=359
OTHER INTERESTING THINGS:
There are extra wires in the AV harness that are for old-school steering wheel keys that use a resistive matrix. It ought to be possible to hook up all sorts of buttons and controls in a car for various stuff. The MCU is aware of these.
It sounds really good.
Screen is bright and crisp.
Using the Android box with your TV requires a DC adapter that is not included and nobody knows what the specs are. It's 5V DC, appears chargers from old Nokia phones with the teeny tiny plug will work
I'll try to keep this post updated but it's my busy season at work so don't have a lot of time.
Here's the original post that started it all:
I've been wanting to buy a H/U for a while now but nobody makes one of the Huifei ones for my Saab 9-3, and the universal ones are so gaudy and fugly that I've just kept searching, hoping to find something better looking. Today I came across this Italian guy on eBay, selling a very attractive universal double DIN with Kitkat. The one he's selling is a dual Android/WinCE unit (not interested) and claims to have both an 8-inch and 10.2-inch screen, so not really trustworthy.
BUT. I did a reverse image search on all the stuff he copy/pasted in the wrong aspect ratio and came up with a different model from Newsmy which claims to have a quad core A9 @ 1.6Ghz and be pure Android 4.4.2 with no WinCE.
Other stuff:
- Works with steering wheel controls
- 7" display @ 1024x600
- NO optical drive
- Dual bluetooth (one standard BC5 for the phone, one for OBD).
- Good TDA7851 amplifier (28Wx4)
- All the usual crap like car DVR, TV, etc.
- Screenshot shows a stock launcher, no sign of any UI that looks like it's from an 80's sci-fi movie.
- I am aware that it appears to be a cheap tablet stuck to the front of a 2-DIN chassis
- No line outs that I can see, one of the sockets on the back is labled AV IN and looks to have a lot of pins, and another that seems to be a firewire port labeled Key Accessory Interface. No idea.
The only way to buy one seems to be either for USD$299 through a reseller on Aliexpress, whose listing is mostly incomprehensible, or direct from Newsmy on EC21 for USD$200. I have no experience with either site.
I guess I'm going to roll the dice and see if I can get one of these shipped to me and find out if it's any good.
ETA: found a ton of pictures; apparently you can pull the front panel off and connect it to your TV via HDMI.
EATA: not allowed to post links so you'll have to Google I guess.

did you find any news about this carpad?

What are the pros nd cons to use a HU with android and winCE?
Is there a reason why to use winCE instead of a Pure android HU?

jindoseg said:
What are the pros nd cons to use a HU with android and winCE?
Is there a reason why to use winCE instead of a Pure android HU?
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Pure Android HUs have to cold boot each time the car is turned on (I don't understand this, certainly a tablet with a battery in airplane mode could last for many days without affecting the battery of a car, so I don't get why a HU can't be left in this state vs completely shut down) and startup time is way too long. The WinCE units are set up that way because they actually run Android in a virtual machine on CE and just suspend the VM when the HU is powered off. CE can start up in a couple of seconds and so your time to operation of Android is a fraction of cold booting every time. This sounds like a mess to me and I'm really only interested in a pure Android HU. From what I understand the Chinese companies have engineers working overtime to reduce Android boot time and some have it down into the 15-second range.
N.b., I've been unable to buy the one mentioned in the original post. Both websites are broken and companies don't responde to mail.

alaninsitges said:
Pure Android HUs have to cold boot each time the car is turned on (I don't understand this, certainly a tablet with a battery in airplane mode could last for many days without affecting the battery of a car, so I don't get why a HU can't be left in this state vs completely shut down) and startup time is way too long. The WinCE units are set up that way because they actually run Android in a virtual machine on CE and just suspend the VM when the HU is powered off. CE can start up in a couple of seconds and so your time to operation of Android is a fraction of cold booting every time. This sounds like a mess to me and I'm really only interested in a pure Android HU. From what I understand the Chinese companies have engineers working overtime to reduce Android boot time and some have it down into the 15-second range.
N.b., I've been unable to buy the one mentioned in the original post. Both websites are broken and companies don't responde to mail.
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Thank you for your reply.
Thats a big disadvantage of the NU3001 and what about the DT2001S-H-H?
both are android 4.4 but the DT2001S has 2gb ddr3 + Wince

I'm curious
I would like to know more about this head unit. Mostly is it reliable and how does it look in person. Does anyone have this yet?
Thanks,
Brett

alaninsitges said:
I've been wanting to buy a H/U for a while now but nobody makes one of the Huifei ones for my Saab 9-3, and the universal ones are so gaudy and fugly that I've just kept searching, hoping to find something better looking. Today I came across this Italian guy on eBay, selling a very attractive universal double DIN with Kitkat. The one he's selling is a dual Android/WinCE unit (not interested) and claims to have both an 8-inch and 10.2-inch screen, so not really trustworthy.
BUT. I did a reverse image search on all the stuff he copy/pasted in the wrong aspect ratio and came up with a different model from Newsmy which claims to have a quad core A9 @ 1.6Ghz and be pure Android 4.4.2 with no WinCE.
Other stuff:
- Works with steering wheel controls
- 7" display @ 1024x600
- NO optical drive
- Dual bluetooth (one standard BC5 for the phone, one for OBD).
- Good TDA7851 amplifier (28Wx4)
- All the usual crap like car DVR, TV, etc.
- Screenshot shows a stock launcher, no sign of any UI that looks like it's from an 80's sci-fi movie.
- I am aware that it appears to be a cheap tablet stuck to the front of a 2-DIN chassis
- No line outs that I can see, one of the sockets on the back is labled AV IN and looks to have a lot of pins, and another that seems to be a firewire port labeled Key Accessory Interface. No idea.
The only way to buy one seems to be either for USD$299 through a reseller on Aliexpress, whose listing is mostly incomprehensible, or direct from Newsmy on EC21 for USD$200. I have no experience with either site.
I guess I'm going to roll the dice and see if I can get one of these shipped to me and find out if it's any good.
ETA: found a ton of pictures; apparently you can pull the front panel off and connect it to your TV via HDMI.
EATA: not allowed to post links so you'll have to Google I guess.
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Did you ever get this head unit?

Anybody tried this?

makkan00 said:
Anybody tried this?
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I think I might give it a try soon. It would be nice to hear from someone who already has it.

Really interesting Thank you for this Information!!

bpalmer1455 said:
I think I might give it a try soon. It would be nice to hear from someone who already has it.
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Let us know how you get on.

makkan00 said:
Let us know how you get on.
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I'm still waiting to hear back from EC21. Has anyone ever bought from them before?

any news on this carpad?
Marco

principino1984 said:
any news on this carpad?
Marco
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Nope. Im a littlr nervous to biy with such little info on it.

I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.

alaninsitges said:
I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.
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Sweet. I guess you're braver than me. Do you have any idea how long till you get it?
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Were you able to get any info about subwoofer connections? My car has a factory sub and I couldn't find how you would tie it in. The seller told me it is connected through a "voice output cable". Do you know what that means?
It seems like a pretty nice unit from specs. It's the reliability that concerns me the most -- with no online reviews to be found. I am also a little concerned about that touchscreen volume control. Seems like it could be a PITA.
thanks for sharing.

alaninsitges said:
I'm ordering one direct from Newsmy right now on Aliexpress. We've been exchanging messages for two days trying to make sure their canbus adapter works in my car. Hopefully I'll have it soon.
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Which car you own. I am looking for a solution to my Skoda Yeti 2013. I had a chineese WinCE unit from the local dealer but I have returned it as the FM receiver was super crappy and the BT hands free worked only half of the time.
The issue still open for me is the quality of the FM radio although one can use the Android H/W to listen to radio through the internet. Not sure how fast would that change stations.
I was looking the Mistui FM receivers but I am not sure what is the exact model and thus that is the sensitivity.
Some Mistui receivers are pretty good ones.
All solutions that are not original VW do not have any support the the dual antenna with the built in diversity control. On the other hand most of the cards do not have such an implementation and radio still works fine.

yes. That's another concern of mine -- radio reception. Seems like it should be the simplest part, but I am constantly hearing about poor radios on these units.

Well, it's ordered. I opted for the 3-day SHL shipping and then noticed after I had paid them that "processing time" is 30 days.
The whole thing stinks like a scam, but I guess we'll see. It'll either be here in a week or in five weeks.

I just noticed that the aliexpress add says this: "Newsmy android 4.4 quad core car dvd 7 inch for univeral Android only (without DVD, bluetooth,NU3001)" Do you think that means that it doesn't have bluetooth? Surely not.
Also it looks to me like the guaranteed delivery time is 30 days. I bet you'll get it much quicker than that if you chose DHL.

helping picking headunit joying JY-UL135 vs Erisin ES3646U

here the two radio I am Looking at
joying JY-UL135
SKU: JY-UL134
. Quad Core Android 5.1.1 Lollipop OS Capacitive 10.1" Big Touch screen for Double Din
. CPU: RK3188 1.6GHz Cortex A9 Quad Core, Resolution 1024*600
. RAM：DDR3 1G, 16 GB memory, Black Color
. 9 EQ Equalizer for music
. Support steering wheel control, OBD2
. Built-in GPS navigation, support Google maps, Waze, Sygic, TomTom, Here maps
. Support 9 & more Color Panel Lights
. Bulit-in WiFi, Support 3G/4G/Wifi hotspot sharing, Support 3G Only WCDMA network
. Bulit-in Bluetooth for hand free phone call, Support1080P
. Support car DVR
. Airplay for iPhone 6/6 plus/5/5c/5S/4/4S
. PAL and NTSC Support Rear view camera
. Wireless Screen Mirroring Function( Android phone and iPhone)
. Thickened alumium heat sink and strong unit design
. Built-in Google play store, Apps for Uber...Google Voice
. USB, Auxiliary Input, No SD card.
. FM / AM RDS Radio Data System, Subwoofer, Free External Mic, Free GPS antenna
Erisin ES3646U
Has anyone used this head unit or any review or bad issues with them they look about the same specs
any info would much appreciated

i dont have either, but i like the look of the Joying one better

I got the Joying UL 135 with Lollipop 5.1.1 just installed.
It was a super-easy installation as my old Toyota 4Runner from 2000 had ISO cables installed earlier. Plug&Play!
I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
The device is ROOT'ed when it comes.
Android reports: Android 5.1.1, Rk3188 quad core 32 bit @ 1608Mhz, Model 2820H-5.1 J0513, MCU MTCD_JY_V1.49_2 April 28 2016
AnTuTu 3D 6.1.7
Noise in speakers during graphic test. Sounded like a GSM pone disturbance.
Results:
Overall 26479
3D 1117
User Experience 12459
Cpu 9841
Ram 3062

Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!

windsplash said:
Hey,
I would love to see a photo of your install. I'm currently researching what to do for a 2002 Tacoma (same stereo layout and bezel). I was worried that the curved edges of the bezel would be an issue - was it an easy install for you?
Thanks!!
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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?
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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?View attachment 3800399
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What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...

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What is under SD/GPS symbols in left-bottom corner? Producer (JOYING) says "No SD card support"...
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Just 2 SD card slots. I have a 32GB in the GPS slot and a 64GB in the other.
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I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.

TwiggLe said:
I have a 2013 Durango with the base model 130S/RES base stereo. I've been looking at options to upgrade it as I want something with Navigation built in. Wonder if I'll need anything special to wire this up.
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130 sounds like a Jeep radio. Chrysler used the same 130/430/730 for Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep for many years.
I had a 430N and replaced it with a Joying jeep specific unit and I love it:
https://smile.amazon.com/Challenger...F8&qid=1471862795&sr=8-1&keywords=joying+jeep
probably would work in the Durango

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I've just installed one in a 2007 grand Cherokee. Does anyone know what makes/models of USB 3G/4G dongles work with this unit?View attachment 3800399
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Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.

kamikaze2112 said:
Hey, was wondering what your thoughts are on the buttons and the volume knob? I see your unit is recessed a little, just wondering if those controls are easy enough to use?
I have an 06 Civic SI that I'm looking to get one of these for, and that's one of my main concerns. I really like having hardware volume controls.
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HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA

pelle900gli said:
I have not found anything not working except that I don't know how to clear Bluetooth devices from the list of ones I have once connected and the Bluetooth OBD2 plug is shown as connected even hours after I have unplugged it.
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It has to be fitted to be able to delete it from the list.

Yes, I had this issue too until the last software update. Things seem to be a bit quicker and smoother too.
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tickertapes said:
HI,
The volume knob is just a rotary encoder which is monitored by the OS so it's implemented in software although the user interface is a piece of physical hardware.
Why are you concerned about this? I don't even use it, I just use the steering wheel controls.
https://youtu.be/9yq4TC5xbhA
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Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.

kamikaze2112 said:
Steering wheel controls are fine until you've got the wheel turned. i don't know, just like to be able to reach over without looking and spin a volume knob. just a personal preference.
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i too like to have a volume knob. I use my steering wheel controls, but i also frequently use the knob

Okay, well it's there. The volume can be controlled via the steering wheel, the volume knob and vis the touch screen. A momentary press of the volume knob mutes the system, and 2-3 second press will shut the system down.
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Hi,
I have got the carjoying UL 135 too and I am pretty satisfied.
Nevertheless, sometime I experience incredibly slow operations. When it comes, I have to wait many seconds (10 or 20) when I launch an app like Waze in a way that I can utilize as expected. I use the Rocket icon to clear operating but it is the same. I think 1 GB is not enough.
Have you experienced this?

2012 Chrysler town and country

hi, I have a 2012 Chrysler Town & Country with the touchscreen stereo but it does not have navigation. I was thinking to get one that has navigation but I'm not impressed with the features from the OEM stereo.
I have searched and cannot find any head unit that is specific to this vehicle. Does anyone know what it would take to install a universal android head unit in my Town & Country?
My vehicle has the steering wheel control and the CAN bus.
I really like the one from InDashNet.
Thanks in advance.
I've attached a few pictures of my current stereo connectors.

not sure about the universal, but I think that Chrysler used the same radio in Chrysler family (Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge) for that time frame.
you will probably need to look at your specific radio and see if it looks like one of these Jeep ones, whereas they look the same, but they mount slightly different:
Wrangler
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m202-jeep-wrangler-media-satnav-2007-16/
Grand Cherokee:
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m263-jeep-grand-cherokee-media-satnav-2011-13/
I have this Joying for my Jeep and love it:
https://www.carjoying.com/quad-core...for-jeep-dodge-support-mirror-link-wifi-.html

CadillacMike, Thanks for the reply.
Did that just fit into your Jeep, or did you have to splice any wires?

For my Jeep it was plug and play, and works like a champ. This is the harness that comes with the Joying. That purple looking box is the Canbus adapter that should keep your steering wheel controls working
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The gray module on the Joying clips right into the Jeep wiring harness
I also sold my old 430N for a decent price on eBay.
However, it is worth noting that I had the Jeep with the base audio system.
Got the same Joying for my buddy with a Jeep that had the premium alpine factory upgrade, and his amp and sub do not work right. So we are having to get a PAC module and splice a harness together.
However my Jeep with an aftermarket sub and amp works just fine. looks stock

Ok, what year and model is your jeep? And you had the 430N huh?
My T&C has the 430, so I know a 430N would just plug and play right in. I've spoke with a dealer parts dept who said that the 430N from a jeep should be the same as from my T&C.

The Lepricon said:
Ok, what year and model is your jeep? And you had the 430N huh?
My T&C has the 430, so I know a 430N would just plug and play right in. I've spoke with a dealer parts dept who said that the 430N from a jeep should be the same as from my T&C.
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mine is a 2016 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. However they haven't changed the dash on Jeep since 2011.
I dont know for sure, but I have read that Jeep combines the Sirius and GPS cord into one. So in theory Chrysler could do the same, and you would have a GPS antenna already available.
The Joying does come with its own GPS antenna, but i bought an adapter on Amazon for about $10 that allowed me to reuse my existing Jeep GPS

Ok, sounds like I'm willing to give it a shot.
Just a little info on the Joying you bought. I see it had only 1Ggb ram. On a phone that usually causes serious lag. Have you noticed any on this stereo? Any cons at all that you know of?

Well you have to set your expectations accordingly. Some people on these sites complain about these radios like they expect since it is Android it should be the same as a 2016 Flagship phone.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. It is awesome. I do not expect an under $400 chinese radio to perform the same.
I got mine from Amazon with Prime:
https://smile.amazon.com/Challenger...F8&qid=1471449612&sr=8-1&keywords=joying+jeep
Joying support is good, but it is in China, so massive time difference, so about 1 email per day back and forth. So just realize if you need to contact them, a small communication could take a week or so. They write back every day, but there a language barrier and a time delay.
So for me, my Joying is great. I have a remote start, and use that as I walk up, so I dont care about the 30 second startup.
At first it is super cool to have Android and you try a bunch of stuff. More stuff you do, more lag will occur. Now that I'm getting into a routine with it, it performs pretty good. But, I use it like a car head unit.
So I use it for music, GPS, and phone calls, which is about the same as I have used any previous car radio.
I dont use FM radio, I use Google Play Music, Pandora, and Spotify. GPM is a little slow, but works. Pandora works fine, but requires data, and I have plenty of data, but it is annoying to have to turn on and off my hotspot and turn wifi back on when needed. I have found Spotify works the best. I have a Premium account, so I save music offline to the sd card. The Spotify interface is car friendly and is pretty fluid, and it easily recognizes the external sd card, which GPM did not.
GPS i have tried several, but currently sorting through 4. Google Maps is great, but again, kind of laggy like Google Play Music. Neither are intolerable, but just not as fluid as their counterparts. Waze works great with data, but without data it is not as good as a regular offline GPS, and it can be a little slower. Here WeGo (formerly Here Maps) is pretty quick, and looks good. Joying gives you a copy of iGo, and it is hands down the most fluid and works the fastest. At first i didn't like the Interface of iGo, but now it is growing on me, and i tend to use it the most.
Calls you have to use the built in Bluetooth. It works fine, I can hear people fine, and they can hear me fine. The only caveat is for some reason it routes all the audio to one speaker, the front passenger. So I can hear people fine, but they only come out of one speaker and have a mono sound. I have not had any complaints about how I sound when I use the Joying provided external microphone.
The only extra thing I use is a calendar app. That way it syncs with my phone calendar and I can use the location field to link to GPS. So if I have an appointment at the doctor. I pull up my calendar, click the location and it goes right to Google Maps to guide me there.
I love mine, best car radio I have ever had. However, I did research these for a year, and I more or less knew what I was getting into.

I only plan to use GPS, and a music player, and occasionally FM stereo. So, I'm ok with not having a flagship phone. I also like to connect via Bluetooth for incoming alerts and such. Do you know if you receive incoming alerts when you are listening to music? For instance, with my 430 factory stereo, if I am connected via Bluetooth but listening to music from the HDD and I get an email or whatever, nothing comes across the stereo. I have to switch from HDD to AUX in order for anything to come from the phone to the stereo. That, to me, is junk.
One more question, I think, on this Joying unit. About the display. It's only 800x480 resolution. Does that cause any problems? I've read some places where even Google Maps doesn't display very well with that resolution. What is your experience?

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I also like to connect via Bluetooth for incoming alerts and such. Do you know if you receive incoming alerts when you are listening to music? For instance, with my 430 factory stereo, if I am connected via Bluetooth but listening to music from the HDD and I get an email or whatever, nothing comes across the stereo. I have to switch from HDD to AUX in order for anything to come from the phone to the stereo. That, to me, is junk.
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I would think not. I am not sure any of my vehicles do that. Although I do leave my phone on vibrate 100% of the time. Most cars will give you phone calls or SMS, but I dont know that I got an alert for email or anything from my Cadillac, 300, or Jeep?
The Joying does NOT do SMS. All you get is phone calls. It will ring and the name/number shows up on the screen. You can access your full phone book. But you do not get any access to text messages.
The Lepricon said:
One more question, I think, on this Joying unit. About the display. It's only 800x480 resolution. Does that cause any problems? I've read some places where even Google Maps doesn't display very well with that resolution. What is your experience?
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I too was worried about those specs when reading all about these, but mine looks fine. The Malaysk ROM on here makes the DPI different or something to make it look better, but either way was fine. Those specs wouldn't work for a 55 inch tv, but it is fine for a 6.2 inch screen
A picture of a screen doesn't translate well, but you get the general idea:
Google Maps
Waze
Spotify
Pandora

Looks good enough for me.
Thank you for all your input. I think I'm gonna get one and see if it works in my T&C.

The Lepricon said:
Looks good enough for me.
Thank you for all your input. I think I'm gonna get one and see if it works in my T&C.
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I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.

Dreusi said:
I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.
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My jeep doesn't have a video system in the back, but I have read a lot about these units.
Rear TV should work, but only for the DVD player i think. I dont think you can fire up Netflix on the Joying and have it show on the TV in the back

Dreusi said:
I want to thank you both for posting this. I have a 15 T&C with the 430, and have never liked it. I have been looking at these Android Head units since I got it. Lepricon please let me know how it works for you. I especially want to know if it runs the kids TV in the back ok. Thanks again.
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I should be getting mine tomorrow. If it's just plug and play then I expect I'll have it installed and working by afternoon.
I don't use the video player at all, so I won't be much help there. But I'll let you know about pretty well everything else.

Mike,
Got my unit in today. Thank you for the recommendation. So far I really like it. With the bezel installed it looks factory. I'll try to get a picture uploaded tomorrow. Really looks good though.
Install went ok. I mean, I get sound and the steering wheel controls work. There are 2 connectors on the harness and 3 on my van. However, only only one of the connectors from the van matched up to the stereo. So not sure what's going on as all 3 from the van were plugged into the 430. Also, I got the antenna to plug in, but there is another plug that looks the same and has no where to plug into the stereo. I assume it is the one for the serius radio.
But, everything seems to work, except the backup camera so I assume it's one of those connectors that didn't fit.
I've emailed Joying, just waiting for a response.

Update:
Joying says that their head units do not support the factory backup camera. They say I have to install their camera.
For now I'm gonna look for the wiring diagram to see if I can just splice into the camera wire. If not I'll be returning the unit. The backup camera was the main feature I was looking for when I bought the van.

you would have to post some pics. My camera works great, but mine is aftermarket. My Jeep had 2 gray plugs, one white, and one yellow.
Big gray was the wiring harness, should connect to Joying
little gray was Uconnect, not used with Joying
White is the radio antenna - should connect to Joying
Yellow is combo GPS and Sirius. you can't use Sirius, but I bought an adapter to make my GPS from Jeep work. You could always use Joying's GPS as well, I just figured the Jeep one would be better.
I had the Brandmotion aftermarket backup camera. It plugged into the 430N with one of the large gray plugs, but I could disconnect the large gray part and there was a regular RCA left and it plugged into the Joying and works great. Not sure how the factory works though

The Lepricon said:
Update:
Joying says that their head units do not support the factory backup camera. They say I have to install their camera.
For now I'm gonna look for the wiring diagram to see if I can just splice into the camera wire. If not I'll be returning the unit. The backup camera was the main feature I was looking for when I bought the van.
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Thanks for the update. I saw some other posts talking about the the backup camera I think, but it was months ago. If I find them again I will update you. Would love to see the pics.

Dreusi said:
Thanks for the update. I saw some other posts talking about the the backup camera I think, but it was months ago. If I find them again I will update you. Would love to see the pics.
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Here is one talking about how to do it.
well, I am a new user and can't post a link, but it is at
Jeep garage . org / f155 / jeep-backup-camera-w-aftermarket-headunit-55252.html
I hope that helps

Ok, I just ordered this adapter
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-C3LLCFgVJvD/p_120CHRYSAV/Metra-CHRYSAV.html
I spoke with the manufacturer, Metra, and they assured me it will give me my stock backup camera back. I should have it by Thursday so I'll let y'all know if it works.
Cadillac Mike, what adapter did you get that lets you use the jeep gps/serius antenna with the Joying unit?

Ownice C500 (2GB/16GB/Cortex-A53) VS New Joying (2GB/32GB/Intel SoFIA 3GR 4 Core)

I am looking for a VW head unit and after reading hundres of threads I came to a conclusion that in the price range up to $300 those two from title are the best choice.
Now I am torn between New Joying Intel 2GB/32GB and Ownice C500 quad core 2GB/16GB.
Are there any comparision tests between Intel SoFIA 3GR used in Joying and Ownice C500 CPU (supposedly Cortex-A53?)?
There's an AnTuTu test by ngochoangimsat of C500:
CPU: 10188
RAM: 3984
3D: 2446
TOTAL: 29946
Ownice C500 - 29
Still looking for the test of Joying.
Are there any comparision tests between their AMP IC (Joying - TDA7388(ST) VS Ownice TB2929)?
I wonder which unit is faster/better as they are priced quite similar on AliExpress.
The cheapest offers I have found:
$285 for Joying 2GB/32GB/Intel (AliExpress: JOYING Official Store, link not allowed yet)
$323 ($278+$45) for Ownice 2GB/16GB/Cortex-A52 (AliExpress: Autolink - Top Car D V D Supplier)

Interested in this as well as I just killed my mtcd kgl screen and digitiser. From what I can see, ownice c500 seems to have more features..4G, DVD drive..But Intel ones seems to get more development at the moment..

I have decided to go with Joying as I have no plans to use DVD drive (I have never used it even though I currently have one) and I have no plans to use 4G neither (I won't buy an extra SIM card, I will just tether connection from my phone over wifi).
C500 CPU scored around 29ks point in AnTuTu while old RK3188 CPU scored around 26k points.
On YouTube movies Intel CPU seems more responsive, it can be only a delusion though.
I am supposed to receive mine on 29/DEC.

i have not tried an Ownice, but I can tell you I went from a Joying MTCD to Joying Intel and it is night and day difference

I am leaning to the Joying intel, but the Ownice is really tempting because:
-the ownice has more features
>TPMS
>4G (this is not important for me)
-Android 6.0
-buttons are much better laid out.
-As I am buying for an Audi A4, the version by Joying has 2 buttons that are not functional meant for DVD operation and have the dvd slot blanked out making it feel like it's missing something. Checking with Joying if it can be reassigned or are they completely none functional.
-has a dvd slot
> not that I will use, but point above...it looks better with the DVD slot...
Reason I am leaning to the Joying unit is because:
-more development on this unit it seems
> unlocking full bluetooth function seems to be close
> have been rooted
-32GB storage
-more user feedback on Intel unit and how well it performs compared to the original MTCD units.
-joying seems to focus more on the software side, which is probably more important

I had similar concerns. The biggest downside of the Joying for me was the knobs placement, I prefer to have them on the lower edge like in the Ownice.
As for the Android version - I wouldn't count on pure 6.0 in Ownice. Seems like they are using some weird mixture of 4.4, 5.1 and 6.0 while majority of their kernel is still 4.4. Offering this mixture as Android 6.0 is kinda cheating...

I would have purchased a joying if they made it my car's form factor. Their website with examples and details alone speaks volumes.
Got a c500 instead. Crossing my fingers.
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So joying just confirmed with me that those buttons are dud...So weird having buttons that does nothing.
{
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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vs this from Ownice:
Buttons layout just makes so much more sense...
argh...so hard to decide..just don't want another regret like my current MTCD KGL

i would be interested to see if those Ownice units work with an American SIM, specifically Verizon

I may eventually try finding a sim to work with it. I've been told you can go to a Verizon Store and they can try one out.
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aarick said:
So joying just confirmed with me that those buttons are dud...So weird having buttons that does nothing.
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That's because they reused the older injection mold and just blanked out the now useless DVD drive slot.
Probably would have cost too much to rework the whole thing.
I'll bet the buttons can still be pressed and remapped in software.

Didn't Intel cancel the SoFia stuff? so probably no future development of any kind?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3063...-tablet-markets-after-cutting-atom-chips.html
The company is immediately canceling Atom chips, code-named Sofia and Broxton, for mobile devices, an Intel spokeswoman confirmed.
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Anyway here is sample result for SoFIA 3G-R it says 26719 for Antutu result.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-C3230RK-SoC.156853.0.html
I bet C500 handily would beat it because it's processor at least seems to be much better on paper.
Also C500 has better GPU Mali-T720 compared to what Intel has Mali-450.
@concept5400 I think the screenshots from @ngochoangimsat clearly shows the SDK version is 23 in C500. I am not sure why you think it is a mixture. While I read some manufacturers tried to cheat by using mixed stuff. I think there is nothing which points to C500 not being an Android 6.0 device. While Joying is definitetely 5.x and it will probably never get an upgrade because of the dead Intel project.
So if I would compare C500 vs Joying SoFIA. C500 has faster processor, better GPU, supports 4G, android 6.0, many different C500 models with different button configurations, no buttons, dvd, without dvd etc. But Joying ? hmm rooted? I am not sure if it has any advantage over Ownice models other than being rooted?

leonkernan said:
That's because they reused the older injection mold and just blanked out the now useless DVD drive slot.
Probably would have cost too much to rework the whole thing.
I'll bet the buttons can still be pressed and remapped in software.
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Glad to see another Melbournian here....
I agree and my gut feel is that it'll work as well. The lady at Joying also doesn't seem to know her stuff well.
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yurtesen said:
Didn't Intel cancel the SoFia stuff? so probably no future development of any kind?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3063...-tablet-markets-after-cutting-atom-chips.html
Anyway here is sample result for SoFIA 3G-R it says 26719 for Antutu result.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Atom-C3230RK-SoC.156853.0.html
I bet C500 handily would beat it because it's processor at least seems to be much better on paper.
Also C500 has better GPU Mali-T720 compared to what Intel has Mali-450.
@concept5400 I think the screenshots from @ngochoangimsat clearly shows the SDK version is 23 in C500. I am not sure why you think it is a mixture. While I read some manufacturers tried to cheat by using mixed stuff. I think there is nothing which points to C500 not being an Android 6.0 device. While Joying is definitetely 5.x and it will probably never get an upgrade because of the dead Intel project.
So if I would compare C500 vs Joying SoFIA. C500 has faster processor, better GPU, supports 4G, android 6.0, many different C500 models with different button configurations, no buttons, dvd, without dvd etc. But Joying ? hmm rooted? I am not sure if it has any advantage over Ownice models other than being rooted?
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You make some good points there sir!...
just as I was about to bite the bullet and get the joying...I'm back to holding position. Might monitor the c500 development a bit further first and see if it changes. Android 6.0 doesn't quite worry me, but the full bluetooth stack and root is important to me as usually the headunits doesn't work exactly as how i want and xposed and root helps make it work a lot better...

@aarick I found another good point for joying, apparently the intel cpu may be supporting glonass. But I still would not go for Intel.
About the bluetooth. It looks like you can do anything with bluetooth attached device. I am not sure what you want to do exactly? Here is a nice video. Bluetooth stuff appear at 1:20 about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRE-opyLOog
What I want to see in these units is a digital compass. I dont understand why they never have it. I think I will get one of those new C500's with buttons on the left with 7" screen and they have map/sdcard slot also.

yurtesen said:
@aarick I found another good point for joying, apparently the intel cpu may be supporting glonass. But I still would not go for Intel.
About the bluetooth. It looks like you can do anything with bluetooth attached device. I am not sure what you want to do exactly? Here is a nice video. Bluetooth stuff appear at 1:20 about
What I want to see in these units is a digital compass. I dont understand why they never have it. I think I will get one of those new C500's with buttons on the left with 7" screen and they have map/sdcard slot also.
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Mainly want to be able to hook up my Bluetooth tyre pressure monitoring system to my head unit.
The ownice seems to have their own TPSM kit, but would like to avoid investing further into more stuff that I already own.
I think right now.. I'll be happy with the joying.. But when development catch up for the ownice.. I might regret it..

A few words after testing the unit for the last few days.
Generally speaking responsiveness is at acceptable level.
It's not even close to an iPhone level but it's doing well enough.
Satellite signal is working with GPS and GLONASS at the same time.
I had to switch off AF funcion in the radio because apparently it doesn't work so well - instead of searching for other frequencies of the same station it was changing radio stations.
It was shipped with language changed to my country language and with iGO NAVI with Europe maps and my country language set up as well, even though it was 2014 version of the app and the maps it was a nice touch.
Bluetooth app have a problem - when downloading contacts it is not saving the "+" sign before the country code.
For example - if I have a number stored in my phone as +44 123456789 it will be downloaded as 44 123456789.
Then if that person would be calling me, the unit would show the caller as +44 123456789, without matching it with the saved contact, because it has saved the contact as 44 123456789, without the + sign.
It's a bit annoying but I can live with it.
The following problem is ground breaking for me.
As this is my first Android head unit ever I am not sure if it's Joying only or general problem of those chinese units.
The unit can play radio sound AND sound of ONE other app with radio in the background.
This function is called GPS MIX and it's working only with predeclared NAVI app only.
If I declare Google Maps as my NAVI app - it can play radio in the background with Google Maps on my main screen.
But other NAVI apps in the background cannot produce sound.
If I would put other NAVI app on my main screen it wil start to produce sound but the radio will be turned off the second other app starts to do so.
Therefore I am not able to use two NAVI apps and radio at the same time.
In my country we have a Waze-like app for speed camera and mobile speed control units with a HUGE community and it's working like a charm (YANOSIK app).
The problem is that the app really sucks at turn-by-turn navigation. Everyone is just using it in the background with other NAVI app on main screen.
With this unit when YANOSIK app is working in the background it will not produce any sound, unless declared as the NAVI app in CarMediaSettings. When it's declared as the NAVI app it will produce sound ine the background but other NAVI app will mute/turn off the radio completely.
I am quite desperate with this problem as for now I still have to use my phone for one navi app...

Not really a definitive answer to your wondering, but I have a MTCD which can have two navi-apps produce sound running in the background and run a media app at the same time. In my case Tomtom and Flitsmeister (which sounds as the equivalent of your Yanosik app).
So I don't know about Joying, but there are definately 5.x units out there that can do this.

HVB83 said:
Not really a definitive answer to your wondering, but I have a MTCD which can have two navi-apps produce sound running in the background and run a media app at the same time. In my case Tomtom and Flitsmeister (which sounds as the equivalent of your Yanosik app).
So I don't know about Joying, but there are definately 5.x units out there that can do this.
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Joying can do multiple nav apps and media app at the same time. Problem is playing the radio and multiple nav apps. Only assigned nav app can be heard when radio is playing.

gustden said:
Joying can do multiple nav apps and media app at the same time. Problem is playing the radio and multiple nav apps. Only assigned nav app can be heard when radio is playing.
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Well.. not really in my case. When I run multiple nav apps in the background the only one producing sound is the one chosed as The Nav app in CarMediaSettings, others stay silent...
EDIT:
OK, I tested it thoroughly, you are right and I was wrong. The issue is caused by the radio app.

aarick said:
Mainly want to be able to hook up my Bluetooth tyre pressure monitoring system to my head unit.
The ownice seems to have their own TPSM kit, but would like to avoid investing further into more stuff that I already own.
I think right now.. I'll be happy with the joying.. But when development catch up for the ownice.. I might regret it..
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I actually bought a C500 unit (waiting delivery) but I guess I can't test the bluetooth stuff for you without your sensors but I am not sure why they shouldnt work? I mean if it has an android app and it connects to bluetooth it should work, no?
On the other hand, I never had any case which would save me headaches if I had tire pressure monitoring. So I decided to not invest on one. (also I am not big fan of changing batteries how rarely it may be required ) But that is my opinion...
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@concept5400 I know this is an annoying response but I have to say... What about driving within speed limits so you wont need to run a speed camera app? I highly recommend this option, it is also safer.
But you can perhaps work around it if you run your YANOSIK app in your phone. Since you don't have to see it, you can even keep your phone in your pocket.

Ownice or Teyes android 10 car multimedia?

Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.

ivosto said:
Hello, which brand would you recommend ? I've been reading topics here and narrowed it down to maybe those two. It is for Opel Insignia 2008 . I browsed some "tesla" style with the bigger screen which replaces my whole front panel of the cd which controls the partonic and has sport and tour buttons and they say it doesn't support them. Since my old cd is behind the buttons and the new one is only where the screen is , i disconnect the old one, will those tour and sport buttons work in a normal smaller multimedia system? Thanks in advance
ownice:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002790860130.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.4dd850d8O4zHWS&algo_pvid=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069&algo_exp_id=73080daf-43b1-4c04-9f45-49a0eed39069-2
teyes:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001652199168.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.1f79d486reoitB&algo_pvid=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355&algo_exp_id=32aed0ab-39a9-4731-84d6-fcc49b1bd355-1
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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"Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice."
Neither of these are Android Auto.

I like the quick charger USB, ambient light control and IPS screen of Ownice. Plus, it does have Android Auto and CarPlay but you need to pay extra cost.

I normally don't answer these kind of topics as it is a never ending story, but maybe I or others can use it to copy around in likewise questions.
They are more or less the same when it comes to the software. They are FYT based and have support for the several versions of hardware.
But anyway, for all units be it FYT based, MTCx, TSx, AC8227, etc., etc., FIRST compare the hardware:
Check whether the screen is TFT/IPS/QLED (in increasing quality=readability). Go for nothing less than 1280x720 (1024x600 is not good enough anymore, but in the end it is up to you).
Check which FM-chip (from low to high):
TDA7786x or Philips (NXP) TEF6851 => budget chip without RDS.
TDA7708x => middle segment but good enough
Philips (NXP) TEF6686 => top FM chip
Check which audio chip (low to high):
TDA7388 -> budget, not good.
TDA7850/TDA7851: Both good. 7851 has slightly less power output with slightly less heat dissipation. Less chance of overheating. The TDA7851 has almost everywhere been replaced with the TDA7838, which should be identical in quality/performance (no idea, google around)
DSP: nowadays mostly ROHM BU32107. (Earlier ADAU chips are not so good but seem only to be used in MTCx units.)
CPU (fast to slow): UIS7862 (Unisoc ums512), SC9853i and PX6, PX5 AC8257, PX30, AC8237 and PX3.
This order is a bit discussable, but the uis7862 is definitely the fastest currently.
Memory: minimal 2GB, 4GB is fine. Some prefer 6GB but that is actually not necessary.
Now back to the FYT models you are mentioning. They are more or less comparable. It "seems" T'eyes support is better, but I leave that to the owners (Don't want to start a flame here )
ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice.
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What? Android Auto?
You are going to buy such an expensive high-power full-fledged full functional Android unit and use it as a cheap emulator for the restricted Android Auto?????
I really, really don't understand these kind of arguments. If you want to use Android Auto, for which you indeed sometimes need to pay separately, then choose a cheap unit which supports this as well.

ivosto said:
what i want most from this upgrade is a seamless and easy connection of my phone to the car - listening to spotify via bluetooth. Android auto to use the phone trough the multimedia would be nice. I see those units provide fast charging via USB which is also neat. I want fast boot ups and not to drain my battery - i see this mentioned a lot. And hopefully not to lose any options for my car like comfort settings - sport, tour buttons, steering wheel buttons.
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Android Auto is crap
When people think about buying these android head units I don't think they quite get the idea that these are pretty much full-on android tablets complete with their own android operating system. There really is no need to run android auto. Things like spotify.... youtube... siriusxm... etc... can be downloaded from the google playstore and run directly from the head unit itself. All you need to do is supply a wifi hotspot from your phone, or fit the head unit with its own 4g card.

Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!

ivosto said:
Thanks guys, really useful answers! About android auto - I have, had no idea it wasn't that good. I never had a car with more than a single colored screen and always see adverts about new cars which specify they have android auto or apple car play as such a huge extra. After all isn't this to link the phone to the car system and operate the phone from the display? What if I receive e call ? The Bluetooth/wi-fi connection will allow me to answer it from the car media? And lastly i really want to have it lazy - for example i get in the car - my head unit and the car connect somehow , can i make it play Spotify automatically ? is there something like Bixby routines or.. can it happen at all? Or actually i can do it from the phone - when connected to that head unit to play Spotify like I have a program to play automatically when it connects to a certain speaker? Thanks very much again!
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I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.

Bob_Sanders said:
I have a simple bixby routine set up to turn the phone wifi hotspot on for use with the head unit, and then off again when I turn my jeep off. Of course the head unit automatically connects to that hotspot when it sees it. It's all automatic. I don't have to pull the phone out at all.
You can downlaod a tasker to start Spotify automatically if you wish.
Yes, your phone's bluetooth will connect automatically for phone calls.
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Bixby is Samsung only.
You can also use Tasker/MacroDroid/Automagic/Automate/etc. to do what you do what @Bob_Sanders is doing with BixBy.
When you switch on the unit it connects via BT to your phone. That triggers MacroDroid/Tasker on your phone for that BT device (the unit) to switch on the hotspot, which the car unit on its turn then automatically connects to.
And when you switch off the car/unit, your BT connection is broken and the phone hotspot is stopped.
Works all the time for me.

Wow!
The Ownice has a HUGE array of inputs/outputs on top of the normal ones... pretty impressive
Dual sub outputs
HDMI output
Quick charge usb
two rca video outputs
Atmosphere lighting control
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