To root or not to root - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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Danzano said:
My hat goes off to hauwei and Google for building this handset.
I have been using a galaxy s6 for the past year rooted and tweaked to the best of my knowledge and what could be mustered with the closed source and exynos7420. I have been using the 6P for two days and honestly I'm considering something I thought I wouldn't try...... Stock no root. I have always rooted my devices and played round with them built a popular rom back in the gt540 days but this phone this beast I'm actually considering stock.
So my question currently cyanogenmod shows nightly builds but no stable builds, so unofficial at best and it looks to be the same for a lot of other roms as cm seems to be the major base for 90% of roms now, so what are currently the advantages of these builds or the builds based off stock?
Obviously there is adaway and Xposed and viper4android but in terms of build performance battery life and stability is it worth moving off stock atm?
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CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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Heisenberg said:
CM definitely isn't the base for most (or even a small percentage) of ROMs on a Nexus, most ROMs are based on the official aosp source. Most ROMs that I've tried are as stable as stock. What are the advantages? Added features. You're probably better off of gaining extra features via a custom ROM with those features built in, than gaining them by adding Xposed modules to the stock ROM. If you need instructions on unlocking/flashing/rooting this device I have a detailed guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.

Danzano said:
I'm confident in the nexus development I was just unsure if the pros out weighed the cons as things currently stand vs stock
I will have a look at that thread though, I mean it is a nexus so if a hardware fault rears it's ugly head i can always return to stock.
Does the nexus line have any kind of flash counter yet or is it still safe I heard qualcomm was putting something in place awhile back. Sorry got to catch back up on things
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No flash counters or anything like that on the Nexus, never has been and probably never will be. It is first and foremost a development device, it just happened to catch on in the mainstream too. If you have any questions don't be afraid to ask, we have a great community of people helping out in the guide thread.

DJBhardwaj said:
No, Nexus devices do not have any sort of flash counter. Though, during the first 1-2 months of the 6P release, rumor had it that the phone has a blowable QFuse, which would be irreversible if you unlock the bootloader.
However, later on the skepticism was wiped away, and it was clarified that nothing as such exists. Yes, the QFuse exists, but its completely unrelated.
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Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583

Heisenberg said:
My advice: don't use a toolkit. They can make things easier sometimes but easier isn't always a good thing. They've been known to cause issues, and there's really no substitute for ensuring things go right by doing it yourself. Plus, if you're going to be modifying your phone, you really need to have a good working knowledge of fastboot, especially on a Nexus. That's what will get you out of trouble if it arises.
If you're looking for a pretty stock-like experience but with some great features added I'd recommend trying out Pure Nexus, it's a rock solid ROM with useful extra features. I have links to all ROMs (and basically anything useful for this device) in my index:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/index-huawei-nexus-6p-t3213583
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Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.

Danzano said:
Qfuse thats the one I remember reading about thankyou DJ
Heisenberg thankyou for your answer this is my first nexus device so any help is appreciated. I saw there was a couple of all in one tools in the dev forum, do you think these work well or better just to use sdk and manual commands? I ask because im all for shortcuts when they work ;P
So far though this phone has been awesome so be interesting to see what some of these roms are like I'll be using just nexus devices from now on thanks again guys.
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Depends entirely on your choice. If you want to learn more about your device and how things work on it, you can perform things by yourself. Doing it manually also helps you keep a track of things that are going on, so if somehow your device is stuck, or not functioning as it should, you can always track back the source of the issue. And since you performed it yourself, you will know it better.
On the other side, toolkits have their own benefits. If you just want to perform procedures without much hassle and automate everything, you can go for them. All the toolkits here is the 6P section have proved useful to many users. You can try all of them, and see which one works better for you and your phone.
I for once have tried SKIPSOFT Android toolkit, offers a lot of functions. At the same time, there is Squabbi's Nexus 6P Toolkit, which has a more user-friendly interface, and much simpler to use.
Personally, I don't prefer toolkits, they could be buggy, at times. And have never suited my purpose.

Danzano said:
Fantastic thread mate ill be getting my study pants on haha used to use fastboot with my one x and the g2 but havent in awhile so ill go make sure im all up to date before I pull the trigger
One last question if ive already downloaded my whole spotify playlist 8GB can I pull that from the phone with adb backup and restore it so i dont have to re download everything pretty sure its encrypted so not sure it can be done.
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That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?

Heisenberg said:
That depends, is it just stored in a folder on your internal storage or is it stored as app data?
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I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop

Danzano said:
I believe its stored as app data because even with root explorer on the S6 I couldnt find it but if I looked at the app size in the S6 app manager it didnt show the music as part of the apps usage if that makes sense.
Ill try pull data and see if it works if it does ill be sure to post it as it could be a life saver for others who once they start flashing wont stop
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Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.

Heisenberg said:
Well it'd only be an issue right now due to the bootloader unlock process wiping your internal storage. It isn't necessary to do so when flashing ROMs so the data would remain intact through ROM flashes.
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If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?

Danzano said:
If I have developer options enabled on stock could i not adb pull all data?
If not ohwell just means my connection will get another day of thrashing lol
So dirty flashes are not a big issue on the nexus roms? or you mean backup data in twrp and restore after the rom flash?
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Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.

Heisenberg said:
Yes you should be able to use adb pull to grab the data. What I meant was that'd only be necessary if your entire internal storage is about to be wiped, like prior to unlocking the bootloader.
And no, definitely don't dirty flash when changing ROMs, and definitely don't restore the /data portion of a nandroid backup on a different ROM. Both will cause major issues. What I meant about that was sometimes some of the data (your playlist for example) is not stored as a part of the app, but is instead stored in the internal storage. Because the internal storage itself isn't wiped during a wipe preceding a ROM flash (a clean flash involves wiping system, data, cache, dalvik cache) the playlist would still be present on your storage after flashing the new ROM.
Anyway, the whole point was in response to your comment about it being useful to frequent flashers, when in reality it (adb backup) is only really ever needed once (before your storage is wiped during the bootloader unlock). Sorry if I'm not making sense, I don't feel like I am haha.
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That makes sense almost got all the updated sdk tools now so will get to backing up then rooting just wanted to double check on the backing up because i have to nuke the internal storage when i unlock the bootloader

On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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Danzano said:
On pure nexus now with elementalx kernel well worth it
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Nice

Unlocking bootloader.
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.

Chipbutty.80 said:
Quick question regarding unlocking bootloader on 6p.
I understand that unlocking will trigger the software verification warning when starting the phone. If I return completely stock at a later date and re-lock the bootloader will the verification warning be disabled?
I'm not new to the rooting/flashing thing and have modified all of my previous Androids, but there are conflicting reports as to whether this is the case. A couple of videos on YouTube make it appear that the message is disabled after a return to stock.
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Yes, the message will disappear if the bootloader is relocked. That's the only way to remove it. Not sure if you need it but I have a detailed unlock/root/flash guide for our device here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

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Thinking of Rooting or adding ROM

Hi guys, I'm totally new, as in I know not a thing about rooting or changing the ROM or anything, and after 1.5 years of owning this on stock android, it's time to take the plunge and see what ROMs are efficient and fast.
From what I heard, the ROM is like the OS. Do I need to Root in order to change the ROM? If yes, how long does it take? If not, how long does it take?
That's it for now, I am interested in the newest and fastest ROMs, I think CM 10 was one of them which I was looking at.
Yes you need to be rooted... you can search in Google on how to root the nexus as though I highly recommend going to 'nexus s hacks' website for a good tutorial :thumbup: and yes I do suggest cm10 with Marmite kernel
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Thank you! Is it a quick process? Or will it take hours? And, are there any cons to switching to a new ROM?
OnlySkills said:
Thank you! Is it a quick process? Or will it take hours? And, are there any cons to switching to a new ROM?
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The pros are that u can customize ur phone any way u want and u get rid if the unwanted junk apps that ur cell provided makes u have when u get a phone... its called bloatware! Custom ROMs speed up ur phone and once u get used to it, then u can add a better kernel and other tweaks that will keep u and ur friends in awe.
Its a quick process.... less than 30 minutes
But
read, read and read some more.
Ur only as good as the info u read and understand cuz if u flash(install) an improper ROM then ur phone is dead!
So Google some searches for ur phone only and read of possible errors & tips so u know where to look in case u screw up.... cuz we all do screw up.
Roms: look at the development section and see what ROM interest U. I wouldn't flash a different kernel until U actually know what one is. And dont be to concerned with themes until u pick a stable ROM cuz some ROMs already come themed.
Good luck and do not take some of the smartalics or jerks on these threads to serious.... they mean well but are just tired of the same new Rooter's ignorant questions they just forgot that they were once new to all this.
And if someone does help u then hit the "thanks" button below the reply since some of these guys need them or it just makes them feel better about using their time to actually reply to ur needs. I myself can care less for them but I've read enough that some developers need them for status and money backing to their ROM's development hard work and time.
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You can also use a one-click-root tool. This will root your phone with your just one click. Its as easy as that. I highly recommend you to Google that as well. I used this as well as the method described on http://www.nexusshacks.com.
WARNING 1: UNLOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER WILL ERASE ALL DATA ON YOUR MEMORY. MAKE A BACKUP OF YOU MOST IMPORTANT STUFF!!! You will have to unlock your bootloader only once. afterwards, you can flash as many ROMs as you wish to, without losing any of your data on the storage.
WARNING 2: Be prepared to get heavily addicted to XDA
WELCOME TO THE COMMUNITY!!!
Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
OnlySkills said:
Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
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There are many ROMs out there that are awesome ! It just depends on you taste though and yes when you unlock your boot loader everything in your phone is erased but you can backup your contacts to Google account and I'm running on slimbean because I love the dual pane mode
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OnlySkills said:
Thank you!!
I am extremely busy with school.. hopefully I find the time (a couple of hours) to root my phone and get a new ROM running..
And hopefully I don't get ADDICTED!! Haha!! But I have a feeling I will..
So, once I unlock the bootloader, and flash a new ROM, everything else is erased right, and I start from scratch? My contacts are the only thing saved on my SIM card/Google account?
And secondly..what ROM do you guys recommend, the one I am looking towards is CM 10, it is the latest and that's the one I've heard the most when it comes to ROMs..
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Yeah its all erased. I use Google voice for backing up all my texts, voicemail call log etc... its also a great way to never miss a text or call... just go online or open up the app.
Backup ur files to ur computer and then root. Then put back ur media files... music, movies & pics.
Always sync Google acct b4 flashing and
I recommend the newest slimbean 3.0 also since it has everything including a great kernel.
Happy flashing
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I recommend using MMetal Dragon Overlord 4.1.2 because it is extremely smooth! although its not even close to cm10 on tweaking and modding base. A cm10 stable has just been released, so check that out as well!
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WOW...1.5 years using nexus with stock rom?
what an ......... (don't know what's the best word to say, LOL)
marvellous....
to have your phone rooted is just take less than 1 hour (if and only if you've already had all files needed and no errors occured )
My Nexus S is just stand for 3 days using it's Stock ROM, LOL
don't worry...being a crack flasher is not a crime.. LOL
welcome to the rooted Nexus company then....
don't forget to backup all your datas before doing all rooting processes
for some reason CM10 Nightly 11-23 version + matr1x v24.0 (OC'd @ 1320mhz) is the FASTEST combination for my i9023 so far.
Temple Run Brave doesn't lag at all.
After 6 years with iPhone Operating System my 3GS left me and took the kids so here I'm enjoying this brave new world.
6 hours stuck with stock
At first I got cm10 thinking that was already 4.2 because I used gapps 4.2
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I've had my NS for a year or so now...and I thought very long before finally taking the plunge to root & flash Althought I have only flashed 2 different custom ROMs so far, I am constantly looking for furthermore to enhance my phone. Initially I only wanted to root to get to overclock my phone and for BLN access, since my only grudge with the NS was that it didn't have the notification LED. But now I'm totally absorbed by the various extra settings and customisations that these custom ROMs bring with them
I haven't used a 1-Click tool for rooting so the initial process to unlock the bootloader & root took me quite some time...but after that flashing the ROMs and kernels is only a matter of minutes. I definitely recommend it!
gunner49 said:
But now I'm totally absorbed by the various extra settings and customisations that these custom ROMs bring with them
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Totally agree with you on this. My only regret is that i should have made this jump much earlier .
I was also unhappy about no notification lights on the Nexus S. I just tried the CM 10 ROM and was surprised that the touch keys light up for notifications.
ROM better Stock
I prefer use custom rom (4.2 for nexus S) because reactivity and performances are better.
Why use 1GHz phone when you can have 1,4GHz....?
Custom rom = Customisation
With custom rom you can custom all in your device
And you can have the latest version of android
Send form Nexus S on android 4.2
slab62 said:
With custom rom you can custom all in your device
And you can have the latest version of android
Send form Nexus S on android 4.2
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Amen to that. I'm still discovering and tweaking 4.1.2 though!

1st time flash ROM - What a blast!

Hello all;
I thought I would share my root/flash ROM experience with others, not necessarily those who are pros, more folks like me, technically literate but this process is new.
I picked up my One the first day it was available, I had it pre-ordered from [email protected] and have been a long time iPhone user. I was tired of waiting for the jb and once I saw the specs on the One I was sold.
I was fine with Apex launcher and Widget locker for quite awhile, but then the mod bug started. I followed qbking77's vid's to perform the unlock and root. I made sure to backup everything with Helium and I also did a copy of my Android drive to my Mac just to make sure I had everything. I used Helium to Google Drive and that worked very well. I had to make sure to load Google Drive after the wipe and log into it before I was able to restore my data.
So I sat at root for awhile, but it was a matter of time until I flashed my 1st ROM, SinLessROM GE v3.6.2. After reading everything on here I could find, I decided on the SinLess Rom. I always say, never start something technical late, but I did not heed my own advice. I used Titanium to do my backup, along with Helium again. Then the moment of truth, TWRP and wipe. I go to install in recovery and find the zip and bam, error number 1!!! Well it turns out I had Safari on expand after download and did not have the .zip. I get a little freaked out. I turned on the phone and it started working through the normal HTC One load (remember that), I finally am able to move the correct .zip to the phone. Then I install it, it works!! Yeah! The phone starts up but just sits and sits at the google screen. I then realize I started the phone after I did the wipe and did not re-wipe it. So, I re-wipe it, re-install and Sweet!!! It works like a charm!!! I had to get the new SuperSU for root, then I was able to install Xposed.
Used both Titanium and Helium to download what I needed, and its been rolling great all day and I'm loving it.
I do have 1 question, when the new version of the ROM comes out, I don't have to wipe the phone again do I? I would think I can do a dirty install.
So, hopefully if your on the fence, you will take the jump. Backup, backup and backup!
Have fun!
If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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If it's a small update, or the same ROM, you tend not to have to wipe again (e.g. you can just flash over the top)
But if you're going to a different rom, or a major version change, then it's recommended to wipe typically.
Personally, I like to wipe between updates just as an opportunity to get rid of loads of stuff I've installed but not used
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Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
jackpollard said:
Thanks for the response!
So how do you manage all your apps and data if you wipe between updates? When I wiped my data and all, I lost all my apps and data that goes with them. While I was able to being everything back, it took a few hours. Am I missing an easy way to restore? The update seems like a small update, its a 3.6.1 to 3.6.2 update.
Jack
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Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
Hello Liskrig thanks for your hello. I read so many good things about titanium backup I bought it a while ago. It helped me when I rooted my phone. Thanks for the good advice
I went ahead and wiped the cache and then the devlic (sp) cache and then did the install. It worked with no issue and seems fine.
Jack
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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Now I finally find this invaluable info after all the flashing I have tried and it finally makes since. I have recently tried a few ARHD Roms and they come out so fast, I was never sure if I need to fullwipe, backup and restore or what. It's nice not to have to re-download everything.
Thanks for the heads up.
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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HomesliceOne said:
Welcome to the addiction! You'll find yourself scouring the XDA forums for rom updates and kernels in a very obsessive manner soon enough!
I do dirty flashes all the time if the changes are minor like 4.1.1 to 4.1.2...but from 4.1 to 4.3 i did a clean install
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Too late...the bug has hit me back when I got the first Samsung vibrant. Now I'm looking for a killer Rom to beat the ARHD...it's stable but not the fastest. And I love the stock items...blink feed and sense makes me happy.
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Liskrig said:
Welcome to the community!
Titanium Backup (TB) is invaluable at the point that you are at. It is well worth the price for the license on the Play Store. With TB you can backup apps, and the associated data. Just be warned though, if you ever decide to go to another ROM, you can not use the backups from the previous ROM.
Basically, going from X-ROM 1.2 to X-ROM 1.3 is fine, but if you try to restore backups from X-ROM to A-ROM, you will run into major headaches.
Hope this helps!
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With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
PaulG1488 said:
With system apps that's a problem but user apps are safe to restore on other roms at least in my experience.
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^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
can i ask , which guide you used please?
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can i ask , which guide you used please?
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Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
jackpollard said:
Hello dahmmy;
If your question is for me regarding what guide I used to unlock and root, just search qbking77 and root htc one. I did update SuperSU to the newest version but really followed that guide to the letter. I made one concession, I used a Win7 machine instead of my Mac.
I do have a question for you all flash masters, so do I need s-off in order to update my kernels when available? I kind of get lost understanding; when the official 4.3 HTC rom comes out and its incorporated into the ROM I have loaded, when that ROM is updated, will it also upgrade my radio and all? I still have the 1.44 HBOOT so understand I can s-off. Thanks for any feedback and I will keep reading.
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Hi
You don't need to s-off to load a new kernel. If you update your device with an official RUU or a zip containing a Hboot, radio or framework then those partitions will be updated. You can only make that uograde if your CID is accepted by the update (or you ar supercid and s-off). If you on the other hand flash a custom ROM the above mentioned partitions are in I think all cases removed from the ZIP.
It's hard to advice you to s-off or not, but I did it while I hade the opportunity so I could supercid the device and reset the tampered flag.
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I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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Great and appreciated feedback. I did try using revone to s-off, I was using the terminal on the phone method and consistently get error = 1. I'm running hboot 1.44, but have the SinLess ROM running, I think thats the issue, I researched and it looks like cause its the GE and not Sense. I'm not sure I want to drop back and reload the stock, then reload SinLess, its so sweet I have it perfectly setup for me.
You know I have to say thanks to everyone who has read and especially commented, being this is a more technical forum then most others, I read a lot of threads that are tough on noobs like me. I've been an IT developer for the last 35 years (yeach I feel old), I was an iPhone person for years and would always jb to get my phone useful to me. When I saw the One, I was sold and never looked back. I think I've read most of the posts about the One and rooting, etc. But, still have questions of course. So I thank you all again for your feedback and great advice. Starting to feel a bit more comfortable in here.
If I can help anyone else looking to root I would happy to, just PM me. I'm so not an expert, but sometimes you just need another set of eyes to see when you don't.
InflatedTitan said:
I advise to s-off now if you have a comfortable feel with adb and cmd prompt. Its pretty straightforward, and the chances of a fatal error is extremely thin. While others will say warranty doesn't really check for unlocked and tampered stays flags, I like to be able to make it look 100% stock in case I have to send it in.
Other pros are ability to upgrade and downgrade ruus, hboots and firmwares without a hitch. You'll pretty much always have root and some other customizations are possible through an s-off device.
But as always, if you don't feel comfortable with it, the HTC one can pretty much do any average modding without s-off so its not 100% necessary.
Anyone need help with anything I'm always down through pm and I've given my phone number on a couple occasions. Happy modding :thumbup:
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sauprankul said:
^^^ this
How would anybody feed their flashaholism without that capability?
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I love Titanium backup. It's saved my butt more then a few times! Same with cerberus!
Hey all, thought I would provide an update about s-off and post ROM flash. I tried a few times with revone to get s-off but no dice. After doing my research it seems due to the rom I have it won't work. I have a GE based rom. So I would say if you go through the root process you might as well do the s-off process before you flash the ROM.
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pleted win
I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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I too am coming from 6 years of iOS usage and was a die-hard Cydia users to add tweaks and themes.
But the android rooting scene is too Geeky for me. lots of places to go wrong. have been going through a ton of tutorials lately. But scared of rooting simply because i will lose my Warranty. HTC is not quite a reliable brand as i have come to know..especially with One and the famous camera tint issue. (i got a replacement for the same issue). So a bit scared.
So is there anyway we can root and keep it all stock. I mean even if unroot and lock the bootloader, it will show Relocked instead of Locked. Will the service centre people let it pass. I am dying to install ViperOne Rom for the amazing customisation it allows.
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We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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fz1jmp said:
We share similar history, I always liked the openness of Android, but I never found a device that was as well built as an iPhone until the One. I was tempted with the nexus 4, but not sold.
I fortunately did not have any issues with my One, sorry you did
Not please remember I'm not an expert, but I understand you can go all the way back to stock, if you s-off.
Research revone. Or moonshine tools to s-off. As long as you do a nandroid backup you can always go back to how you were. Grab titanium backup and backup all your data and take your time. But you can root and leave it 100% stock and just take advantage of root only goodies.
I'm sold on Sinless GE 4.3 ROM, it's fantastic and the dev who maintains it is great. So go unlock and root it, backup backup and backup. Good luck and have fun
Jack
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Hey jack more than build quality i liked the way OS is optimised for the hardware. Anyway leaving iOS out of the moment.
But i dont think you can get the Bootloader to have "locked" written again. It will still come as "Re-locked" which is a giveaway i believe. Anyway i have my exams and i will be caught up with them till November. So after that maybe i will join the Flashing-wagon.

Disappointing community...

I must say I'm deeply disappointed by the lack of responsiveness on the LG forums. So far, none of my queries (none too difficult, mostly regarding specific steps or problems during flashing) have been answered. Coming from a Samsung I must say those XDA forums were beehives compared to the utter deadliness that reigns here. I understand that there can't be many roms as long as only the international version can be unlocked, but it is frustrating to have to get into a whole new ballgame as far as flashing etc. is concerned (compared to Samsung practices) without some assistance from the community.
Sorry about this, I just needed to unload my chagrin...
I don't have experience flashing this device. One reason is that Verizon detects if you're rooted and I don't want to void my warranty so soon after getting the device.
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Also, no ROMs anyway... :' -(
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I've had a couple of questions and whilst they have taken a little longer than normal to be answered, I'm not overly fussed because I'm getting help for free so if it's not immediate, it doesn't really matter. LG rooting/flashing is completely new to me too so I'd rather wait than rush in without fully understanding what I was doing.
What issues do you have?
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I've had a couple of questions and whilst they have taken a little longer than normal to be answered, I'm not overly fussed because I'm getting help for free so if it's not immediate, it doesn't really matter. LG rooting/flashing is completely new to me too so I'd rather wait than rush in without fully understanding what I was doing.
What issues do you have?
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I know it's free and I shouldn't complain. But the difference with the Samsung community is striking. And it's precisely because all is new that one hopes for some assistance. Look at the last post of this thread. Maybe I'm spoilt having to wait for 2 days, but somehow I suspect I'll never get an answer. And maybe it's also because there are not enough knowledgable members on the LG forums, which means that one is always dependent on the OP.
bartveld said:
I know it's free and I shouldn't complain. But the difference with the Samsung community is striking. And it's precisely because all is new that one hopes for some assistance. Look at the last post of this thread. Maybe I'm spoilt having to wait for 2 days, but somehow I suspect I'll never get an answer. And maybe it's also because there are not enough knowledgable members on the LG forums, which means that one is always dependent on the OP.
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You must understand that it's not we people don't want to reply to you, and for your question in regards to the post, I'm pretty sure a search would bring up many queries that you have been asking before. The phone has only been out for a few months, and people are slowly working on the progress for this phone. It's not that people have no knowledge, it's just that the community (let's be frank) is not as large as Samsung's community. We can try to provide as much help as possible, but sometimes help us out by doing a search before questioning stuffs.
We all that come towards this forum wanted to see something more, something exciting and play around with custom roms and stuff, but there's their pros and cons.
For example, there's already a team building towards CM/Blisspop, and they are progressing steadily, bringing us updates and fixes that will eventually be available for everyone.
So sometimes, just have the patience to wait, or if you really need to query in regards to stuff, you could do a PM.
Do not follow that guide until you are already running version F. You will lose exfat on your SD card
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Coming from a Nexus 4 the tumbleweed here is a bit odd but if a phone is pretty well locked down that does cramp this forums style a bit.
On the other hand the only niggle I have with the G4 is the horrible over saturated tones that make reds look purple. If I could tone that back say 20% it would be nearly perfect for me.
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Do not follow that guide until you are already running version F. You will lose exfat on your SD card
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tdevaughn, you are referring to my question in the other thread? But how am I ever getting to version F as I am already rooted and running a flashed stock rom (version d, with necessarily Updates turned off)?
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You must understand that it's not we people don't want to reply to you, and for your question in regards to the post, I'm pretty sure a search would bring up many queries that you have been asking before. The phone has only been out for a few months, and people are slowly working on the progress for this phone. It's not that people have no knowledge, it's just that the community (let's be frank) is not as large as Samsung's community. We can try to provide as much help as possible, but sometimes help us out by doing a search before questioning stuffs.
We all that come towards this forum wanted to see something more, something exciting and play around with custom roms and stuff, but there's their pros and cons.
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It's just that sometimes a question is so specific that a search won't do. As is my question in the thread which you OP'ed (or was that already answered in that thread and I overlooked it?). And PM'ing... now that I would consider harrassment.
Anyway, I hear you and I certainly appreciate the efforts of people like yourself. “Trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.”
The only question nobody can answer in the G4 is why are we obliged to flash a kdz file to update the fw when you have an unlocked bootloader (official root). Losing internal data + root everytime we want to update the fw!!
Why isn't a way to extract the fw files from the kdz so we can flash them without data and twrp loss like they do it on htc s_off phones?
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bartveld said:
how am I ever getting to version F as I am already rooted and running a flashed stock rom (version d, with necessarily Updates turned off)?
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just taking a stab at it
1. flash back to a non-rooted system image (a search will probably turn something up) for your current version
2. ENABLE UPDATES! and retrieve the OTAs to, um, UPDATE? (gee.. if you disabled updates, I WONDER why updates won't work)
3a. find a rooted system image for your new version and dd flash that
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3b. follow guide to dd pull your non-rooted system partition, inject SuperSu, and dd flash your self-made rooted system image
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It's just that sometimes a question is so specific that a search won't do. As is my question in the thread which you OP'ed (or was that already answered in that thread and I overlooked it?). And PM'ing... now that I would consider harrassment.
Anyway, I hear you and I certainly appreciate the efforts of people like yourself. “Trees that are slow to grow bear the best fruit.”
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Well for me, I've never thought of PM as a spam. At least you can easily get your questions asked and answered without questioning the other members who may or may not be new to the forum and just slowly learning So if you really have anything to ask, feel free to ask. And to answer your question in regards to the other thread, the command for that is universal for H815 variants, and works on all the rooted images out there.
you know what I was thinking the exact same thing
When i first got my G4 i tried to root and cocked it up totally so posted on here and got about 3 replies, this was my first Android phone previously having the crappy fruit phone for 10 years
I am an experienced computer user and have mucked about with all kinds of stuff for years
One thing that has stuck in my mind i read a comment on a thread here that said something like 'thats why noobs shouldnt root phones' - what kind of person thinks this way? I will go out of my way to help people in this type of situation
Anyways I am now pretty mustard on the G4 and know my phone/rooting inside out after spending the last 6 or so weeks finding out the wrongs and rights of rooting with several mishaps and always finding my answers due to the few helpful peeps around here
There are some brilliant posters on here and there are also some right ****ing morons
disappointing user...
all answers already out there.. but wants hand held instead of searching/reading.
(see, goes both ways)
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disappointing user...
all answers already out there.. but wants hand held instead of searching/reading.
(see, goes both ways)
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If you ever have a problem with your electrics let me know i will be more than happy to help you if i can ... without patronising you
BTW you have helped me out more than you know
Well usually if someone has an answer they'll share ot or tell you where to look. If they haven't then maybe they don't know either.. I rarely have to ask questions because I read and search and help out where/when I'm able. Half the time IF I do.ask a question I end up finding the answer shortly after on my own because of my diligence and risk taking. There aren't necessarily a lot of roms out there( which I don't care anyway), but the rest is still okay. I mean there's root and xposed and that's even for locked down variants too. Maybe it's just me cause I didn't always have it so good. I had phones that we had ridiculously hard methods of obtaining root and unlock if ever. We found a way though and now things are a hell of a lot easier. Idk I just don't see the point in a thread like this..
As a matter of fact this is the first phone I haven't rooted or Jailbreaked day one, mostly because I bought it as a cure for a flash o holic A new Nexus line is on its way, hopefully with a ok camera, it's going to be my flashy phone and this one will be the stockish backup
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I'm not sure it's fair to compare a forum for this device to the various Samsung ones when Samsung is the second largest phone manufacturer in the world and by far the most popular Android OEM.
vegetaleb said:
The only question nobody can answer in the G4 is why are we obliged to flash a kdz file to update the fw when you have an unlocked bootloader (official root). Losing internal data + root everytime we want to update the fw!!
Why isn't a way to extract the fw files from the kdz so we can flash them without data and twrp loss like they do it on htc s_off phones?
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You can flash as many KDZ's as you want without losing data. I have done it a few times now myself. I don't know where you got the idea that you lose your data every time..
Yes you lose root though. It's pretty simple to flash a rooted image after you get root back, though.
There are two options when flashing a KDZ with LG Flash Tool. Wipe or don't wipe. Pretty simple.
Or is it different with an unlocked bootloader?
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You can flash as many KDZ's as you want without losing data. I have done it a few times now myself. I don't know where you got the idea that you lose your data every time..
Yes you lose root though. It's pretty simple to flash a rooted image after you get root back, though.
There are two options when flashing a KDZ with LG Flash Tool. Wipe or don't wipe. Pretty simple.
Or is it different with an unlocked bootloader?
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I have no idea! The dude who made the tutorial on how to get back to stock using kdz told me I will loose TWRP, though no idea if I will loose bootloader unlock too, if that's the case the process of unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data
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I have no idea! The dude who made the tutorial on how to get back to stock using kdz told me I will loose TWRP, though no idea if I will loose bootloader unlock too, if that's the case the process of unlocking the bootloader will wipe all data
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Ah ok. Yes, you will also lose TWRP. I guess it is more of a pain with an unlocked bootloader. Mine is locked, so I don't get TWRP. I just flash whatever KDZ, pull system image, inject root, flash the rooted image.

Are There Any Good ROMS for The MOTO X Pure?

So I had my unrooted Moto X Pure for quite sometime now and I was looking to root it. I was wondering are there any feature filled ROMS. I can't seem to find any screenshots on the ROM releases and would love to root my phone as it seems to have lots of delay even though it is not full. Can anyone lead me to some guides and tutorials to some good ROMS for the Moto X Pure Edition?
Dirty Unicorns and Pure Nexus are pretty good. Plenty of options to go with - both come with the CM13 Theme engine and Pure nexus also comes with the layers version too. I've gone back to stock rooted with Xposed installed as I like the Moto Assist thingy and the only things I need are the Advanced reboot menu and the option to change the icons in Google Now which is my favourite launcher.
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Dirty Unicorns and Pure Nexus are pretty good. Plenty of options to go with - both come with the CM13 Theme engine and Pure nexus also comes with the layers version too. I've gone back to stock rooted with Xposed installed as I like the Moto Assist thingy and the only things I need are the Advanced reboot menu and the option to change the icons in Google Now which is my favourite launcher.
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I was looking at Dirty Unicorns and it seems pretty nice. I was wondering is there a guide to root and backup my Moto X Pure? I wanted to root, but I don't want to lose all the data and other system information/settings like it used to happen on my HTC One M8. Could you recommend any guides? Thank you!
Rooting requires you to unlock your bootloader, which will wipe all system data with no way around it. It should leave user storage (photos, downloaded files, etc) untouched, but it will delete all installed apps and restore the phone to its factory state.
The only partial workaround for an unrooted phone is to backup your apps to Helium and restore them after you've unlocked the bootloader—once you're rooted, this will be possible with Titanium Backup to backup apps to your internal/external storage as opposed to a cloud.
Immediately after you've unlocked the bootloader, be sure to flash the latest build of TWRP and make a backup of your entire device so that you can restore to something functional if you mess up with rooting. I'm sorry I wasn't able to help with keeping all your system data intact, but to my knowledge, it's just not possible.
I'm positive there's a complete guide to rooting and unlocking the bootloader of this device (as well as a guide to using TWRP for backups and installing ROMs and whatnot) on these forums, and they should be very easy to find with a little browsing. Best of luck to you.
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DubstepWithPON3 said:
Rooting requires you to unlock your bootloader, which will wipe all system data with no way around it. It should leave user storage (photos, downloaded files, etc) untouched, but it will delete all installed apps and restore the phone to its factory state.
The only partial workaround for an unrooted phone is to backup your apps to Helium and restore them after you've unlocked the bootloader—once you're rooted, this will be possible with Titanium Backup to backup apps to your internal/external storage as opposed to a cloud.
Immediately after you've unlocked the bootloader, be sure to flash the latest build of TWRP and make a backup of your entire device so that you can restore to something functional if you mess up with rooting. I'm sorry I wasn't able to help with keeping all your system data intact, but to my knowledge, it's just not possible.
I'm positive there's a complete guide to rooting and unlocking the bootloader of this device (as well as a guide to using TWRP for backups and installing ROMs and whatnot) on these forums, and they should be very easy to find with a little browsing. Best of luck to you.
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Thanks for all the info! For some reason, after following all the steps, Helium does not work for me. I've downloaded the drivers and have enabled PTP mode and whatnot, and for some reason it still doesn't work :/
Also it seems my computer isn't recognizing the device, like I can't go to "My Computer" and find the device there, it used to work.
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Thanks for all the info! For some reason, after following all the steps, Helium does not work for me. I've downloaded the drivers and have enabled PTP mode and whatnot, and for some reason it still doesn't work :/
Also it seems my computer isn't recognizing the device, like I can't go to "My Computer" and find the device there, it used to work.
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Be sure you've enable developer options from within about phone. Tap build number repeatedly till says develop options unlocked or whatever. Then in developer options enable USB debugging
Also, in my experience, Dirty Unicorns was very laggy and I greatly prefer TruPureXMM (or OrionOS if you don't wanna get Xposed to tweak your phone—TruPure has very little customization if you don't get GravityBox. Either way, AOSP ROMs are much smoother).
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Be sure you've enable developer options from within about phone. Tap build number repeatedly till says develop options unlocked or whatever. Then in developer options enable USB debugging
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I've done that as well, but it still does not work at all. Even my computer doesn't recognize the device when I plug it in. It doesn't do the AutoPlay feature asking if I want to explore the contents and stuff.
DubstepWithPON3 said:
Also, in my experience, Dirty Unicorns was very laggy and I greatly prefer TruPureXMM (or OrionOS if you don't wanna get Xposed to tweak your phone—TruPure has very little customization if you don't get GravityBox. Either way, AOSP ROMs are much smoother).
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Just wondering, are AOSP ROMS supposed to feel like how I am using my Moto X Pure currently? When I my HTC One M8 I love the ROMs since they were chock full of Xposed Mods as well as just mods from the maker itself(Viper/Venom ROM)
Tazz. said:
I've done that as well, but it still does not work at all. Even my computer doesn't recognize the device when I plug it in. It doesn't do the AutoPlay feature asking if I want to explore the contents and stuff.
Just wondering, are AOSP ROMS supposed to feel like how I am using my Moto X Pure currently? When I my HTC One M8 I love the ROMs since they were chock full of Xposed Mods as well as just mods from the maker itself(Viper/Venom ROM)
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I suggest downloading the latest device drivers from Motorola support section of their website
Tazz. said:
Just wondering, are AOSP ROMS supposed to feel like how I am using my Moto X Pure currently? When I my HTC One M8 I love the ROMs since they were chock full of Xposed Mods as well as just mods from the maker itself(Viper/Venom ROM)
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It depends. Some AOSP ROMs (like TruPure) are almost identical to the original firmware with very little customization available requiring you to install Xposed. Other AOSP ROMs (like Orion) have the capability of customization as well as extra features built-in while still providing the stability and smoothness of the original firmware. I'd advise you to browse around and see which AOSP ROM appeals to you the most (definitely take a look at the two I've mentioned, though, as they're currently the best ROMs available for this phone in my opinion).
My personal preference is staying away from CM-based ROMs due to performance, but it's entirely up to you. Dirty Unicorns definitely has a lot of very useful features and tons of customization without needing Xposed at all, I just personally couldn't get past the lag. I don't really need anything from Dirty Unicorns that I can't get with GravityBox on TruPure, but your needs may vary.
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Temasek's has the notification LED working (and customizable per app). That alone makes it worth the price of admission, the lack of a flashing LED for notifications was driving me nuts. I'm typically not a huge fan of CM since I usually run into bugs, but I do love the theme engine. I just flashed it yesterday & so far so good - everything works & I haven't noticed any lag either.
I have been using Resurrection remix and it is very stable with no lag, highly customizable, and I have been getting really good battery life. I suggest trying that one. I am really liking it.
aaronpw0621 said:
I suggest downloading the latest device drivers from Motorola support section of their website
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I've tried that as well, no luck
DubstepWithPON3 said:
It depends. Some AOSP ROMs (like TruPure) are almost identical to the original firmware with very little customization available requiring you to install Xposed. Other AOSP ROMs (like Orion) have the capability of customization as well as extra features built-in while still providing the stability and smoothness of the original firmware. I'd advise you to browse around and see which AOSP ROM appeals to you the most (definitely take a look at the two I've mentioned, though, as they're currently the best ROMs available for this phone in my opinion).
My personal preference is staying away from CM-based ROMs due to performance, but it's entirely up to you. Dirty Unicorns definitely has a lot of very useful features and tons of customization without needing Xposed at all, I just personally couldn't get past the lag. I don't really need anything from Dirty Unicorns that I can't get with GravityBox on TruPure, but your needs may vary.
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I've never used CM actually always used AOSP or other customizable ROMs actually. So far the most popular I know for the Moto X Pure is DirtyUnicorns and PureNexus(or whatever is called) are there any you have in mind that would be worth looking into?
Jlew7715 said:
I have been using Resurrection remix and it is very stable with no lag, highly customizable, and I have been getting really good battery life. I suggest trying that one. I am really liking it.
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Thank you, I'll look into it after I unlock my phone and root it!
Dirty Unicorns or Resurrection Remix?
DubstepWithPON3 said:
It depends. Some AOSP ROMs (like TruPure) are almost identical to the original firmware with very little customization available requiring you to install Xposed. Other AOSP ROMs (like Orion) have the capability of customization as well as extra features built-in while still providing the stability and smoothness of the original firmware. I'd advise you to browse around and see which AOSP ROM appeals to you the most (definitely take a look at the two I've mentioned, though, as they're currently the best ROMs available for this phone in my opinion).
My personal preference is staying away from CM-based ROMs due to performance, but it's entirely up to you. Dirty Unicorns definitely has a lot of very useful features and tons of customization without needing Xposed at all, I just personally couldn't get past the lag. I don't really need anything from Dirty Unicorns that I can't get with GravityBox on TruPure, but your needs may vary.
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Well put
Update: I've tried TruPureXMM, OrionOS, and most recently, Pure Nexus; Pure Nexus is definitely my favorite out of all I've tried. Just thought I'd share that with you.
The only problem I'm experiencing is relatively lesser cell reception than I was getting on other ROMs, which is probably only noticeable since I'm in a relatively remote area. I'm pretty sure I saw a flashable improved modem on this site somewhere, though. I'll let you know if I find it and if it helps.
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DubstepWithPON3 said:
Update: I've tried TruPureXMM, OrionOS, and most recently, Pure Nexus; Pure Nexus is definitely my favorite out of all I've tried. Just thought I'd share that with you.
The only problem I'm experiencing is relatively lesser cell reception than I was getting on other ROMs, which is probably only noticeable since I'm in a relatively remote area. I'm pretty sure I saw a flashable improved modem on this site somewhere, though. I'll let you know if I find it and if it helps.
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I've got Pure Nexus on my Nexus 9 & love it, if you find that modem link please post it, the constant searching for a better signal is eating the hell outta my battery.
TXJim said:
I've got Pure Nexus on my Nexus 9 & love it, if you find that modem link please post it, the constant searching for a better signal is eating the hell outta my battery.
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Sadly I don't think my memory was serving me correctly. I looked around for a long while and couldn't find anything like I was talking about, which sucks because I'm losing battery rapidly as well. I was fully charged at 7 this morning and I've been at school/work all day using my phone less since it seemed the battery was going faster. It's only 6:34 PM and I'm currently at 5%.
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I'm running DU now, which is pretty friggin awesome BTW, I'm actually a little surprised that just flashing PureNexus hosed your modem. Have you tried restoring a backup to get the stock one back again?
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I'm running DU now, which is pretty friggin awesome BTW, I'm actually a little surprised that just flashing PureNexus hosed your modem. Have you tried restoring a backup to get the stock one back again?
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I received this phone with DU already installed (bought it in mint condition pre-rooted off of Swappa at $325 for the 32gb model—still can't believe I got such a good deal), so sadly, I don't have a backup of stock to restore to. I do, however, have a backup of TruPure which didn't give me reception issues. Although, I'd greatly prefer staying on Pure Nexus solely for the fact that it doesn't require Xposed for customization.
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Developers out there (2019) What ROM would you put on your Motorola XT907?

I'm going to find someone to install a rom but do not know which rom to choose for this model. Its overwhelming.
920Rocky said:
I'm going to find someone to install a rom but do not know which rom to choose for this model. Its overwhelming.
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It is overwhelming. But I've owned my xt907 for number of years and I don't think there's a ROM oh, that I haven't gotten my hands on that I have not tried on this device. And I will be quite honest when I say this and this is very rare that I will ever say this, I have found in terms of cooperation in terms of system, the stock operating system KitKat the last updated version to be the most stable and speedy version when comparing to custom roms. with that having been said and not having a list of links in front of me, I have found aosp ROM 5.1.1 is the most stable of the many available. This phone already comes with enough bells and whistles on its own. you shouldn't need to add too much more of your custom ROM and I think many of the developers went a little bit overboard with that.
PS I also have an unlocked bootloader.
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It is overwhelming. But I've owned my xt907 for number of years and I don't think there's a ROM oh, that I haven't gotten my hands on that I have not tried on this device. And I will be quite honest when I say this and this is very rare that I will ever say this, I have found in terms of cooperation in terms of system, the stock operating system KitKat the last updated version to be the most stable and speedy version when comparing to custom roms. with that having been said and not having a list of links in front of me, I have found aosp ROM 5.1.1 is the most stable of the many available. This phone already comes with enough bells and whistles on its own. you shouldn't need to add too much more of your custom ROM and I think many of the developers went a little bit overboard with that.
PS I also have an unlocked bootloader.
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According to your vast experience with this phone, and having read some of the threads here, do you agree in debloating and radio unlocking from the Verizon restrictions? I want it to use all the bands that it's capable of.
Thank you
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According to your vast experience with this phone, and having read some of the threads here, do you agree in debloating and radio unlocking from the Verizon restrictions? I want it to use all the bands that it's capable of.
Thank you
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I guess that's a matter of personal opinion and use. Mine has never been off Verizon and I've had no use to get it off there. And yes I prefer an extreme debloat. There are few lists laying around all of them are pretty reliable again I guess it would all base upon your tastes and uses.
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I guess that's a matter of personal opinion and use. Mine has never been off Verizon and I've had no use to get it off there. And yes I prefer an extreme debloat. There are few lists laying around all of them are pretty reliable again I guess it would all base upon your tastes and uses.
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Great, one last thing, I'm having trouble backing up the stock rom, the EFS tool says the SD is full when it reaches the last partition, but that's not correct, its a 16 Gb card. If I uncheck the last partition it does the same but with the new last one.
Edit: Solved, turned out that EFS uses internal storage for backup, didn't found a way to direct to SD, so I've splitted the process.
Thank you very much
superunbricker said:
Great, one last thing, I'm having trouble backing up the stock rom, the EFS tool says the SD is full when it reaches the last partition, but that's not correct, its a 16 Gb card. If I uncheck the last partition it does the same but with the new last one.
Edit: Solved, turned out that EFS uses internal storage for backup, didn't found a way to direct to SD, so I've splitted the process.
Thank you very much
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I was going to say you're on your own with that one. I don't use nor have I ever used EFS. Glad you worked it out though!
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What do you do about so many apps not working on versions older than, say, Marshmallow?

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