Control non-shield apps with physical remote control? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just sideloaded Market Helper using the Nvidia Shield Utility found on this forum, and I used it to install All 4 and RTÉ Player. As these apps are designed for touch screen devices I am unable to navigate them using the physical remote control.
Is there some way to make the physical remote control work on these apps, cycling through each different option on screen as I select the cursor key? I am hoping it is possible to do this rather than having to connect a mouse etc.

Upgrade to 6.0. If the app doesn't have any lean back code you can use the right analog stick for a mouse.

Thanks, that is useful, but if the choice is between using the analogue stick with an app on Android TV, or using a normal remote for a version of the same app in Kodi, Samsung Tizen TV OS, or the Roku 3, I will choose one of those, at least where possible.
Is what I'm asking for even theoretically possible? Somehow identifying all the different options on any non-native touch screen app running on Android TV, and the Shield remote cycling a highlight through them as the cursor buttons are pressed?

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Screencast doesn't work

Hello, I don't understand whether the screencast in general is not possible at all on nexus 7, or if the older threads refer only to the 'screencast' app on the market.
Well, I only wanted to remote control the phone. Sometimes I like reading books or comics on the tv....I use airdroid, but airdroid doesn't have any input from the mouse, that means I have to use the tablet to browse menus and so on....mouse input won't work.
I used in the past Remote Web Desktop (with a desire hd and a galxy note) which has an included screencast tool.
That software, with the nexus 7, will cast only an amount of purple - blue - pink pixels. It will record inputs from the mouse (i tried to click on the home button and it worked), but the picture will be just pixel noise.
Same thing with other tools from the market.
I haven't tried the ADB screencast builtin interface but i assume it is the same thing, since it is the same java applet the other APPS are using in the browser.....
so.....is it possible or not? airdroid casts the screen perfectly, but as I said i would like to be able to control the tablet with the mouse, without needing to act on directly on the tablet while watching the screencast on the tv.

Mele F10-PRO IR Remote Control

Ordered one of these from Amazon this morning. Will have it tonight. Anyone else using one? Saw someone using it with their FTV in a video last night.
Mele F10-PRO 2.4G Air Mouse Wireless Keyboard 2 in 1 Intelligent Voice with IR Remote Control for PC TV Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DHEUBPA
Strange there is no Accessories section for the FTV here and that there has yet to be a single post in the Themes and Apps section.
Got the same remote for the ftv. Not really happy with how it works with the ftv os. Im hoping someday some dev will make a vanilla android rom for the ftv.
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Use of it is kind of hit or miss, tried it primarily for XBMC which I had yet to get working with my win box media center. The keyboard was useful until you do a password and can't tell if cap is on or not.
Used plex and it did what I was trying to get XBMC to do, access to all of my media files on my primary workstation
krelvinaz said:
Ordered one of these from Amazon this morning. Will have it tonight. Anyone else using one? Saw someone using it with their FTV in a video last night.
Mele F10-PRO 2.4G Air Mouse Wireless Keyboard 2 in 1 Intelligent Voice with IR Remote Control for PC TV Media Player
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DHEUBPA
Strange there is no Accessories section for the FTV here and that there has yet to be a single post in the Themes and Apps section.
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i was the guy in the video, i love the mele pro f10. and the reason why caps dont work is not because of the mele pro its because that is a know bug in xbmc frodo versions. use the esc and back button on the keyboard side to navigate in xbmc. you'll get use to it and what i love is because it acts like a keyboard it will work if we ever get a custom recovery like clockworkmod. At least it worked fined on my ouya and madcatz mojo.
mejdam said:
i was the guy in the video, i love the mele pro f10. and the reason why caps dont work is not because of the mele pro its because that is a know bug in xbmc frodo versions. use the esc and back button on the keyboard side to navigate in xbmc. you'll get use to it and what i love is because it acts like a keyboard it will work if we ever get a custom recovery like clockworkmod. At least it worked fined on my ouya and madcatz mojo.
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Any chance you can link that video? Maybe expand some on the use of the remote? I'm hunting for a remote that can control the FTV and TV on/off, volume. I need one that will also work with an IR repeater so FLIRC might be of the list.
Thanks.
keymap for MELE F10
Hi
I'm brand new to XBMC/Amazon fire TV, which arrived this week, and have the MELE F10 controller in the post. Really impressed with both xbmc and the Fire TV. I'm wondering if anyone here managed to get the microphone on the MELE working with the amazon search? Also are there any keymap files available and.or how easy it to make one up myself?
Thanks
Andy

New Shield!

Hey All,
New to Shield, not to Android or TV boxes.
For the past year I've been using the Amazon FireTV. Mostly for YouTube which I connect to my phone and for KODI and various add-ons for it. And before that I got a Chromecast early 2013 when they were first released.
Recently I've been loading the FireTV with emulators and connecting a USB hub, Xbox 360 controller dongle etc got a pain so I decided to buy a Shield.
So far, things I like
- Default TV launcher (I have a sideload launcher for my other apps)
- Play Store
- Game performance
- Design of device and peripherals
Things that bug me...
- No pause/play, rewind, forward buttons on either the gamepad or the remote controller? This thing is marketed as Android TV and coming from a Fire TV, I really miss these. Even my 10+ year old Sky remote has a pause button.
- No context / menu button. Makes using some sideloaded apps a real nightmare. Any workaround?
- I have yet to find a way to open the context menu on KODI to add my favourites.
- Cast functionality on the YouTube app is not as expected. If I open the YouTube for TV app from the launcher, I can view my subscriptions and watch videos and I can use the remote for the on-screen controls. There's no way to queue any videos.
- If I connect my phone's YouTube app to the Shield, the Shield goes to the basic UI my old Chromecast used. I can queue videos on the phone, but I can't use the remote or controller on the Shield to do anything except pause.
- I can't see any value in the remote. It adds nothing extra.
Any tips / suggestions?
Thanks!
skymera said:
Hey All,
New to Shield, not to Android or TV boxes.
For the past year I've been using the Amazon FireTV. Mostly for YouTube which I connect to my phone and for KODI and various add-ons for it. And before that I got a Chromecast early 2013 when they were first released.
Recently I've been loading the FireTV with emulators and connecting a USB hub, Xbox 360 controller dongle etc got a pain so I decided to buy a Shield.
So far, things I like
- Default TV launcher (I have a sideload launcher for my other apps)
- Play Store
- Game performance
- Design of device and peripherals
Things that bug me...
- No pause/play, rewind, forward buttons on either the gamepad or the remote controller? This thing is marketed as Android TV and coming from a Fire TV, I really miss these. Even my 10+ year old Sky remote has a pause button.
- No context / menu button. Makes using some sideloaded apps a real nightmare. Any workaround?
- I have yet to find a way to open the context menu on KODI to add my favourites.
- Cast functionality on the YouTube app is not as expected. If I open the YouTube for TV app from the launcher, I can view my subscriptions and watch videos and I can use the remote for the on-screen controls. There's no way to queue any videos.
- If I connect my phone's YouTube app to the Shield, the Shield goes to the basic UI my old Chromecast used. I can queue videos on the phone, but I can't use the remote or controller on the Shield to do anything except pause.
- I can't see any value in the remote. It adds nothing extra.
Any tips / suggestions?
Thanks!
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Since it's an Android device, you got options. You can usually pair just about any Bluetooth remote. In addition Google made a really neat and minimalistic app called Remote Control that works wonderfully with Android TV (at least that's the case for my Nexus player and Shield TV console). There's also this www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4JYTWA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_5XHvwbH3D7DKJ
Supposedly you can program it to your liking and it has lots of functionality including play/pause and volume controls. There are also controllers with a mouse pad and keyboard built in. Both remotes I suggested have play/pause functions. The Google remote control app doesn't have a mouse, but has a keyboard, a play/pause, select, home, back, and scrolling buttons, of you can opt to use a directional pad with tap to select function, I usually find myself using this remote app over Nvidia controller, it's a free app and very reliable. Personally I like Nvidia's accessory controller concept, but not sure I'd pay $50 for a half baked product when there are so many better universal and all in one remotes out there.
Syndrome666 said:
Since it's an Android device, you got options. You can usually pair just about any Bluetooth remote. In addition Google made a really neat and minimalistic app called Remote Control that works wonderfully with Android TV (at least that's the case for my Nexus player and Shield TV console). There's also this www.amazon.com/dp/B00M4JYTWA/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_5XHvwbH3D7DKJ
Supposedly you can program it to your liking and it has lots of functionality including play/pause and volume controls. There are also controllers with a mouse pad and keyboard built in. Both remotes I suggested have play/pause functions. The Google remote control app doesn't have a mouse, but has a keyboard, a play/pause, select, home, back, and scrolling buttons, of you can opt to use a directional pad with tap to select function, I usually find myself using this remote app over Nvidia controller, it's a free app and very reliable. Personally I like Nvidia's accessory controller concept, but not sure I'd pay $50 for a half baked product when there are so many better universal and all in one remotes out there.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have since discovered that X on the gamepad shows the context menu in Kodi and I downloaded Yatse app on my phone which is also nice.
May look into a bluetooth remote.
Never found a workaround for YouTube, but it's only a minor annoyance.

Nvidia Shield TV Remote missing MENU button! Can't use this for Kodi :(

I just discovered that the Nvidia Shield TV's remote control doesn't have the MENU button. I use the MENU button a lot in Kodi to access the context menu. I'm probably going to return it now.
This remote has so few buttons, there's not even a HOME button or a BACK button!
The hardware is great but the remote ruins the experience.
Kodi 16 supports long press on select button for context menu support. Wait for stable 16.1 and upgrade and you'll then be able to use the remote for context menu duties
Remote is garbage, agreed. Pressing X on the gamepad in Kodi will show the context menu
I agree. The Nvidia remote is really not a good thing for kodi. You can download this though it works great.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.leetzone.android.yatsewidgetfree
Would we be able to buy an Amazon Fire TV remote and use it with this for Kodi? I got this on Black Friday mainly because of the remote deal, this remote is such a disappointment.
chantelle310 said:
Kodi 16 supports long press on select button for context menu support. Wait for stable 16.1 and upgrade and you'll then be able to use the remote for context menu duties
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That's cool but still a long time to wait. I still can't believe Nvidia says that their remote is worth $50.
Neo3D said:
Would we be able to buy an Amazon Fire TV remote and use it with this for Kodi? I got this on Black Friday mainly because of the remote deal, this remote is such a disappointment.
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fire tv remote works fine yes. Syncs up through Bluetooth perfectly. One additional button added from Nvidia wouldn't have been a crime. I love everything about the remote apart from the lack of menu button.
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Kodi 16 beta 2 Jarvis works great on shield and tweaks and fixes related towards shield tv have been implemented. I actually like the remote but I got it for free which helps
with the headphone port on the remote it actually doubles as a chromecast Audio. I find that a very nice feature and use it a lot.
I think the remote is worth the $. First; it's Bluetooth, not IR. Second. It's got a headphone jack which supports headsets (headphones with mic). This makes it worth it imo I can be watching TV and enjoying sound while someone else sleeps in the room. Priceless for me. Third: it's got the mic for voice search.
I've been able to map buttons on the remote with key mapper.
I would check out Droid Mote if the remote isn't for you. Sounds like you've got an android phone or two lying around you could get along with a lot better. Yes it does require the paid server app. But the benefits of Droid mote are worth the cost.
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chantelle310 said:
fire tv remote works fine yes. Syncs up through Bluetooth perfectly. One additional button added from Nvidia wouldn't have been a crime. I love everything about the remote apart from the lack of menu button.
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Which version of the AFTV remote did you confirm to be working?
AFTV-G1 bluetooth?
AF Stick?
AFTV-G2 WiFi?
killerskincanoe said:
I think the remote is worth the $. First; it's Bluetooth, not IR. Second. It's got a headphone jack which supports headsets (headphones with mic). This makes it worth it imo I can be watching TV and enjoying sound while someone else sleeps in the room. Priceless for me. Third: it's got the mic for voice search.
I've been able to map buttons on the remote with key mapper.
I would check out Droid Mote if the remote isn't for you. Sounds like you've got an android phone or two lying around you could get along with a lot better. Yes it does require the paid server app. But the benefits of Droid mote are worth the cost.
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How do you remap it so the Play/Pause button on the game controller plays/pauses the movie instead of showing the Info drop down?
mrruin said:
with the headphone port on the remote it actually doubles as a chromecast Audio. I find that a very nice feature and use it a lot.
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Isn't ChromeCast Audio where your phone sends audio through WiFi to your speakers? How did you get the remote to do that?
Neo3D said:
How do you remap it so the Play/Pause button on the game controller plays/pauses the movie instead of showing the Info drop down?
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Try this, should work. I am using Jarvis on shield but was able to do this with my nexus player
http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:Keymap_Editor
This is what my key map xml looks like for nexus. Allows context when no video and pause play when video
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>ContextMenu</play_pause>
</keyboard>
</global>
<fullscreenvideo>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>PlayPause</play_pause>
<key id="61448">stop</key>
</keyboard>
</fullscreenvideo>
</keymap>
Neo3D said:
Isn't ChromeCast Audio where your phone sends audio through WiFi to your speakers? How did you get the remote to do that?
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No, you just cast to the chromecast, which means you tell chromecast via your phone where to stream media from. The chromecast, once you started the audio stream, doesn't need your phone. You can turn it off, music will still play.
SATV has built in Chromecast, the remote will output any audio via the headphone jack. So, plug it in to your stereo, cast to your SATV and your stereo will play the stream.
mcord11758 said:
Try this, should work. I am using Jarvis on shield but was able to do this with my nexus player
http://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:Keymap_Editor
This is what my key map xml looks like for nexus. Allows context when no video and pause play when video
<keymap>
<global>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>ContextMenu</play_pause>
</keyboard>
</global>
<fullscreenvideo>
<keyboard>
<play_pause>PlayPause</play_pause>
<key id="61448">stop</key>
</keyboard>
</fullscreenvideo>
</keymap>
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That's a friggin great idea! Where did you find the XML tag names for all the remote's buttons? Is there a tag or key ID for the voice button? I'm thinking of making that the context menu while fullscreen video is playing.
where you put this xml file
I have always used the Yatse smartphone app for kodi, even before the shield. Just use that, its worlds better anyways.
Neo3D said:
Which version of the AFTV remote did you confirm to be working?
AFTV-G1 bluetooth?
AF Stick?
AFTV-G2 WiFi?
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Its only the Fire TV stick remote that works.
I tried my fire tv box remote and the shield didnt pick it up.
silverblack said:
Its only the Fire TV stick remote that works.
I tried my fire tv box remote and the shield didnt pick it up.
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That's interesting, that's what I've read previously. I wonder why the AFTV remote won't pick up but the AF Stick will?

Kodi on 10" Onn Tablet

I'm trying to run Kodi on the 10" Onn tablet. I use Kodi as a frontend for mythtv. While it will play the recorded programs, the touch interface that allows skips and jumps by swiping the running media does nothing. I can bring up the progress bar below the media with a press, which would allow very crude positioning.
I'm running exactly the same version of Kodi on my pixel 3 phone, and I have checked every setting and they exactly match, including the skin settings estuary. On the phone the swipes work.
Touch works on the Kodi interface on the tablet, just not the media swipes. Is it that the tablet can recognize a touch but not a swipe?
I've used the Plex app on mine before and it works fine. I know the older versions of Plex was based off Kodi.
I have had the same problem on my 8" Onn tablet though they sometimes work if you make the same gesture over and over but only on certain parts of the screen. That being said, other video software like VLC works just fine with gesture control it is only Kodi that fails.

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