So I enjoy using Android Pay and don't want to lock myself out. Because of this I never rooted and I seem to be able to live with it. However I just got a replacement device (broke my screen) so before loading it all up again I'm considering unlocking the bootloader just in case I change my mind in the future (and don't want to wipe again).
If I unlock my bootloader but keep everything else stock, will this affect my ability to use Android Pay?
No it will not affect Android Pay.
unlocked bootloader has no effect on android pay, it will work fine.
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So my safetynet checker says I failed even though I completely wiped all data! Even the sdcard data! I did a complete fastboot flash of all the system image files including the userdata file. I did not root the phone yet and I don't plan to either, I just want Android Pay.
CTS Profile Match = fail
That's what I get from the safetnet checker...My only other idea is to relock and unlock the bootloader again.
It seems you're not alone. I saw a few posts on reddit describing the same thing. The consensus is that Google may possibly be requiring locked bootloaders as well now for Safetynet.
Granted, I live in Canada and we don't have Android Pay yet. But I just won't even bother if this is the case.
It appears you are right mattkroeder...I relocked my bootloader and it passed, I unlocked it again and it failed....
Damn! I could not figure out why my Pay didn't work today. I'm stock, unlocked, custom ROM, no root. I just tried safetynet and its red. That seems like a bigger hurdle then not allowing rooted phones no pay.
It has been said all along that it was a losing battle....I just hoped that they would eventually block any and all root access at worst. Blocking the bootloader unlock I think puts a nail in the coffin of that little game. You will only be able to have Android Pay with a completely stock phone....
Looks like it is the case now. Now I'm gonna waste 2-3 hours of my precious life, reverting everything back to stock and locked.
GatorsUF said:
It has been said all along that it was a losing battle....I just hoped that they would eventually block any and all root access at worst. Blocking the bootloader unlock I think puts a nail in the coffin of that little game. You will only be able to have Android Pay with a completely stock phone....
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Have a fully stock unrooted Nexus 6P on latest 7.1.1 build (android beta) but now the Android Pay is breaking because it doesn't allow unlocked bootloader.
I use android Pay a lot so I am considering locking my bootloader, but can't wipe all data to get it. Is this even possible? I hope it is..
You could save the contents of your storage by dragging to a computer and then dragging back to your phone once its locked but thats about it. I think.
So what I'm hearing that it is NOT possible to have a
Nexus 6P
Running Android 7.1.1
with a System-enabled Pixel Launcher (Google Now on left pane)
that can run Android Pay
Because I'm assuming if you re-lock the bootloader to get Android Pay, your phone gets wiped along with that Pixel Launcher and its permissions.
Correct? have I described a unicorn phone?
I just bought what was meant to be a new factory unlocked HTC 10 online but it's actually half-rooted phone that was Sprint branded. As in Malwarebytes and Android Pay claim it's rooted but Root Checker says it's not rooted properly.
I'm also unable to open any free apps that require rooting (i.e., Titanium back up, Super SU), and checking for the latest Android software on my phone has a never-ending busy signal. Thus, I'm unable to wait for update to Oreo when it's released in a few months to unroot the noob way? I'm currently running Nougat.
I'd prefer the phone to be unrooted but I guess my concern is that if I revert the phone back I may not able to use the phone as it may be locked to Sprint? (I'm an Australian user). Is there anyway I can check this with the phone the way it is at the moment? If I just leave the phone not rooted correctly what issues will I run into while using the phone for next few years? What convenience apps (besides Android Pay) won't work?
Note: I'm also not keen on returning the phone as it's too much hassle and don't have a decent back up phone.
I went to switch to a different carrier, and was on cricket, and also tried tmobile both wich worked fine unlocked bootloader and rooted.
I then switched to sprint, and verizon and found out both carriers the phone would not work right. The data worked but the call and texting did not.
As a side note, I was informed by someone who was on sprint, and he said that you had to get on the network unrooted and locked bootloader, once registered you could then root and get the bootloader unlocked and be just fine.
So I then proceeded to unroot the phone ie: removing everything root, and keeping twrp with an unocked bootloader only, no sign of root. I took the phone back to the stores and tried again, and the phone still had the same issue.
After finally finding a way to finally after 6mo lock the bootloader again, and was at pure stock, locked bootloader and no root.
What this tells me is that some how verizon and sprint both some how some way detect an unlocked bootloader....how? I have no clue, I've never in my 5+ years of rooting multiple phones, never ever ever seen anything like this. The only reason I know this is what it was, is from common deduction and reasoning.........unroot = still doesn't work.....locked bl = works fine with not a single issue. Keep in mind this was all with base stock rom, not a custom rom.....everything was stock, accept for the root and un;ocked bootloader part. I rooted with magisk.
Since I had a very long time and issue with locking the bootloader, (about 6mo) after trying a ton of things, without resolve, I FINALLY got the bootloader locked.
If it's going to be anything like before trying to get it locked again to work on sprint and verzion, I really do not want to bother with unlocking it to begin with. It was an utter nightmare to get locked, no matter what I tried it just would not lock for whatever reason.
So given all that, my question is, how hard or easy is it now to unlock and lock the bootloader?
Hi all. I have been searching high and low for information on this specific question:
Will activating an unlocked Pixel 3a on Verizon disable the OEM Unlock and bootloader unlock capability?
I got a Verizon variant before I realized that there was not way to unlock the bootloader. Bummer. So, I returned it for an Unlocked version from Google, which I just received tonight. I breezed through the setup (without the SIM card) and noticed that OEM Unlock was disabled stating I needed to connect to the internet. So, I enabled WiFi and the OEM Unlock was then available. It would seem that I an now able to follow the unlocking procedure.
My goal is to unlock the bootloader and root, but do I have to do it immediately? My concern is that activating the phone with my Verizon SIM could:
1) Prevent unlocking the bootloader in the future if I don't unlock it before I activate with SIM (research seems to indicate that factory resets will undo disabling OEM Unlock if this can happen if I understand correctly)
2) Re-lock an unlocked bootloader - maybe this is not even possible?
I don't want to mess this up. All the info I am finding are discussions related to trying to unlock a Verizon variant and I cannot find good info on what happens to bootloader unlocking options on unlocked phones that are activated on Verizon. The only reason I may want to delay this process is because I dont have a lot of time at the moment and would rather not rush the bootloader unlock and root process. However, my HTC 10 is in bad shape and need a phone to get through the holidays. I was hoping that I could activate it on Verizon now, use it with its locked bootloader for a few weeks, and when things cool down after the holidays, implement the bootloader unlock and root.
If that is not advisable, what about unlocking the bootloader immediately (doesn't seem too hard and I have used ADB before), and activating without root. Then root later? Any possibility of concern #2?
Can OTA's re-lock a bootloader and prevent future unlocking?
I appreciate anyone's incite, experience, or links to the needed information for clearing this up. Thanks you!
I would advise you to unlock the bootloader asap. If you wait it will be a pain later because unlocking causes loss of data. If you don't care about that, wait as long as you like.
As far as Verizon is concerned, if the phone is unlocked, I don't see how they could possibly lock the bootloader. They may restrict your services but they can't touch the lock status of a device you purchased.
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