Screen mirroring and phone control? - Android Head-Units

Hey guys, I usually just lurkj the forums but I figured it is time to ask the pros. First off, this is the unit I am installing today: Seems i cannot post the link but here is the title. from amazon Pumpkin Quad Core 7 inch 2 DIN Universal Android 4.4 Car Stereo Radio HD 1024*600 Muti-touch Screen GPS Navigation Without DVD Player Support WIFI/3G/Bluetooth/OBD2/DVR/Mirror Link
I am running a t-mobile service on my phone and I get free data for certain streaming apps. Its pretty cool. Anyway, I just learned that using the phone as a hotspot and then using one of these streaming apps on the device, in this case the new stereo, it does use my data plan... bummer. Anyway I am wondering if there is a wireless mirroring solution that would work and have control over the phone using the touch screen on the receiver? If there is not, how about a wired solution? I have looked into things like android auto. Does that actually work descent and on our receivers? Thanks everyone and a little nudge in the right direction would be awesome :good:

The pumpkin deck has a really basic bluetooth audio interface. I guess that would be the main thing I would like to change. I use Pandora alot and the interface on the deck is really basic. It gives me the option to skip track and play/pause. If I could at least get a similar interface to my old pioneer deck (id3 tags, thumb up/down) that would be cool. Or even a front end app, now that would rock.... Thanks again.

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Is it possible Android / Flip up car stereo?

We have seen phones that have laptop docks for a bigger usable interface. We have seen phones hook into a huge touch screen monitor and work well. Would it be a feasible idea to have a phone plug into a flip up car stereo and mirror the touch screen. I use my phone all the time in the car whether its for music, navigation, information or anything else. It would be great to be able to plug my phone into my stereo and have a bigger touch screen right there on the radio. Just a thought and wondering if its possible.
probably possible. i think it is more feasable to have a hole cut into the dash to house a 4.3'' fone with a usb/headfone jack.
schneidz said:
probably possible. i think it is more feasable to have a hole cut into the dash to house a 4.3'' fone with a usb/headfone jack.
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Or just a dock or stand. But this seems like a better idea. It would be a lot easier with the newer cars with usb/3.5mm jacks preinstalled.
It would be cool to see this thread flourish, Car mods! I'm trying to create a dock in my car for my phone, so that I cun use it to control my radio garage navigation or any other instance of automotive life, like even check the status of the engin.
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I fancy getting a cheap 5-7" tablet for this job - My 10.1 Gtab would look plain silly mounted as a sat nav and wouldn't last 5 minutes if left unattended.
Try using Vlingo or Google Car Home for starters. Vlingo will read your texts aloud and allow you to reply with using your hands. You can also start navigation or send messages completely hands free by saying "Hey Vlingo!" prompting it to auto listen for the next command.
Next up if the free version of Torque(or paid for if you need).
This connects to your car via a cheap bluetooth ODB2 device (~£15 on the bay)
This will give you access to readings such as mpg, speed and any engine error codes.
There are also plugins such as a video/data recorder.
I can't post links to the android market pages of these apps as I've not made 8 posts yet but they're easy to find!
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My ultimate setup that I would like to see would be a radio that has a touch screen flip out that I can plug my phone into and have it mirror my phone. That way I wouldnt have to have a seperate tablet and phone that have a different setup. Essentially this would turn the radio into a mini tablet with your phone being the host for the screen. Thanks everyone for the replies!!
I would dearly love this!
I wuould like it werry much too
It has been my dream for a long time too… They have made it for iphone, maybe we will have it for android too some day.
Please make a google search with the string below (I am a noob. I am not allowed to post links yet):
telematicsnews.info/2011/05/21/video-iphone-screen-duplication-on-in-car-display-comes-to-aftermarket_my2211/
Cheers!
Wonder if it will work with gooapple. And does it just use ur current Pandora app or does it have a Pandora app of it. I just want to use my Pandora app. http://telematicsnews.info/2011/05/...n-in-car-display-comes-to-aftermarket_my2211/
2nd this.
jfafard81 said:
My ultimate setup that I would like to see would be a radio that has a touch screen flip out that I can plug my phone into and have it mirror my phone. That way I wouldnt have to have a seperate tablet and phone that have a different setup. Essentially this would turn the radio into a mini tablet with your phone being the host for the screen. Thanks everyone for the replies!!
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Yes it is Possible !!!!!
jfafard81 said:
We have seen phones that have laptop docks for a bigger usable interface. We have seen phones hook into a huge touch screen monitor and work well. Would it be a feasible idea to have a phone plug into a flip up car stereo and mirror the touch screen. I use my phone all the time in the car whether its for music, navigation, information or anything else. It would be great to be able to plug my phone into my stereo and have a bigger touch screen right there on the radio. Just a thought and wondering if its possible.
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We already have a solution which works on rooted android device.
We can certainly help you.
PM for more details...
Can't send PM. What r u talking about.
@lchemist said:
We already have a solution which works on rooted android device.
We can certainly help you.
PM for more details...
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There is a kickstarter campaign product that allows you to combine your phone with the car stereo into a single double-DIN device. Currently, they have working faceplates for the iPhone 4 and 4S but they are developing Android ones as well.
Check it out: [I can't post external links but a simple search of "kickstarter dash" will take you right to it.]
You know, this would be quite simple with an MHL adapter and a method to send touch input to the screen, which im sure is out there.
TFT LCD Developers Kit
There is a developers kit for a 7" TFT LCD, now I realize this is a full microprocessor board. It does run android, perhaps it has something in its code that is usable, or point to what hardware is required to interface with a smartphone.
Not enough posts yet, so just Google this:
LS6410 SAMSUNG ARM11 S3C6410 board kit 7" TFT LCD (Android)
love this thread . im going to get a nexus one or zte blade and mount it up to the space above my stereo . going to put a bigger antenna on it to help boost gps speed. hook it up to power . and have a full size sd card instead of micro sd . wire it to aux audio. it will music and navigation system.
I just bought a 7.0 galaxy plus 3g with this in mind. I got rid of my phone when I bought this tablet too. I spoke on my phone 15 minutes last month and all that was in the car. I can do that with voip...
I intend to do this install on a 2011 wrx. I just bought the JDM radio bezel that is 6.8x3.9 inch cut out (stock usdm is 8" wide). With a bit of dremeling I should be able to slide my tablet directly into the top of the bezel. I plan to put a backing plate so it looks finished with the tab removed. I want removal to be painless. As I plan to use this tablet a lot.
I'll be completely nixing the head unit in my car. To provide power to the speakers I will buy a clarion equalizer and a smallish 300w 4 channel amp probably the nice alpine on amazon for 120 bucks.
Here's where the fun begins! Audio out should be no big deal. I found cables that split the 3.5mm trrs audio into audio out and mic input. So I'll just run rca outs to my clarion eq and run my mic into the device. Done!
My wrx has steering wheel controls. These tie into a stock unit typically. That's no fun. I plan to buy a sparkfun ioio with bluetooth and intercept the SWC signals. Then using the google ADK I can read the pin signals and respond to things like skip track, volume, mode (use mode to switch open apps), pick up, hang up and voice command. I also want to use the ioio to interface with the headlight dimmer and illumination as well.
I just got my tab a few days ago. My bezel should be coming in the mail early next week. Once the bezel is done, I'll rip out the head unit and do the amp and equalizer install. At that time I'll capture the steering wheel control voltages and start hacking on the ioio.
I'll start a project thread for all this once I do the amp install.

Duplicate Android Display To More Than One Screen?

I just installed an android display unit (Pumpkin KD-C0235) running 4.4 in my dads van. The unit has video output(VGA) but will only output a video stream when playing a DVD, through Pumpkins DVD app. It was verified with the mfg that, that was the only video out functionality.
Since my dad is paralyzed he sits in the middle of the van and I have installed a TV for him to see whats on the head unit. We got the head unit thinking that we would be able to have full control of it on a larger screen using a wireless keyboard and mouse.
Is there an app to duplicate the android screen during normal operation to the video outputs that are onto the back of the unit (RCA)? Or are there any other alternatives to get this constant duplicate video stream up to the tv without having to use WIFI. Since it works with their DVD app, this sounds like a software solution. An app that can be loaded and a video output can be chosen to duplicate the display. Does this exist? I am still looking, if it doesn't. What are the other solutions, other than learning how to write my own APK file.
All the help is appreciated! Thank you
Only via rdp or vnc over wifi.
tapa_talk 4 sucks
You can combine a miracast dongle and use a RCA to HDMI converter like this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IYFUL3E?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I'm using this solution in my car but I do warn you the video quality is somewhere between tolerable and not good at all.
Any software solutions for this yet?
I too am a bit annoyed about the design flaw in which Videos outputs can only be used by DVD or Aux-In apps.
If anyone is able to provide a solution via apk, custom ROM, or firmware, I'd be happy to donate to them!

TC Car Audio Android Head Units

Hi all. I have a 2011 Hyundai Accent that used to run a HuiFei KGL4 Hyundai-specific 7" unit. It's been one rollercoaster ride with that unit, having to deal with the following:
1) Underpowered USB ports (had to solder a voltage step-down converter to amp it up for it to work properly)
2) The latest ROM forces me to wait 30 seconds for the unit to shut down after turning off ignition, otherwise my PKE car alarm won't trigger as all doors are generally closed within that time frame because I've already stepped out of the car. Funny piece is there's no way out of this even if I go back to an older software, or use an MCU that doesn't support sleep
3) Weak FM radio
After messing real bad with #3 above, killing one channel off of my FM radio (only right channel is working now) after breaking the electronic links for one of the caps needed, I decided it's time to let go. Not to mention that the reseller that I've brought it from is no longer responding when it comes to asking for replacement parts and Kai Ge Le doesn't sell parts from products that weren't directly bought from them. Malaysk' great ROM helped me get through the day for a while, but hey, when you want a fully working product, you gotta move some time right?
The next dilemma was: should I go with Joying or any other HuiFei-based Android radio and potentially deal with the same thing? Then I thought... man, it's time to accept I'm not too good with soldering and I can't risk messing another brand new radio just for dealing with the same thing.
Long-story short, I went with a not so known MCU / manufacturer / reseller combo this time around for hopes I'd get different results. It may be a bit of a challenge to get support from the community granted none of my searches yielded any results for the MCU the device is using, but man... with how the ROM of this new unit working fluidly as it is, I'm finally content.
Some distinct differences with HuiFei:
1) Boot-up time. Before upgrading my KGL4 to RK3188, boot-up time was 30 seconds. When I upgraded to RK3188 roughly ~15 seconds. In this unit? I don't even notice waiting for boot. It properly turns off USB connected devices so my battery does not get drained- tried for 5 days now and has been consistently fine.
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
3) RADIO - I can't emphasize this enough. In days where I just want to use the radio instead of songs from streaming apps, man, this unit delivers! It subdues the static / hisses well, and clearly picks up the same radio stations that I used to have in my car's factory radio that the KGL4 one struggled to pick-up.
4) Bluetooth function - I was never able to get my KGL4 unit to pair with my OBD2 device, no matter how many times I've back-read in the different threads. In this new unit, it was able to detect and pair with it the first time I tried! The plus part is that the Bluetooth config of this new unit allows you to enter the pair code for devices that requires it - at least on this one I'm sure the HuiFei units cannot prompt for the pairing code of the other device.
5) Support for external hard drives. I was unable to connect a 500GB external drive in my KGL4 before until I did the USB mod. For this new unit, it supports it right off the bat. No mods necessary.
6) There's an actual WIFI antenna!
Another plus for me is the screen size upgrade. The new device has 9" of real-estate. I did lose DVD functionality and potentially not have the option to update the software to 5.1 (runs on 4.4), but I can live with those. If anyone's familiar or has the same MCU as mine, or shares the same software build, let me know. Maybe that will be a good reference for anyone who'd potentially buy units from them. In the meantime, TC Car Audio has a store in AE if you want to inquire (Store ID 1360064). Looks like they also have a couple of 5.1 devices, just not sure if it shares the same MCU / ROM combo.
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for TC car audio. Just passing along the positive experience I have with their product, and hoping to help others see that there are better options out there beyond the more known brands.
MCU: 2016-04-25 10:38:12 KEQ_60_C6R_7706_5006_CAN(DaZhongWC)_Newlap
jrgalang said:
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
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I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
CadillacMike said:
I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
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Microntek head units are using its own "layer" of virtual keys mapping (irkeyDown/up). It is useful from their point of view, because you have possibility to use long press behavior on hard keys. Android has its own definitions of key events and actually it is good habit to use them (in case of developing "steering widgets" and players developing as well). Probably microntek finally started to broadcast Android's defined key events among the system which caused support of many media players .
But that is only my theory .
CadillacMike said:
I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
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I couldn't try Pandora given where I'm at. But yeah, Google Play Music works just as same as Spotify. No need to have the app open, I mostly have Car Launcher Pro on screen OR my GPS app and I can hit next / previous even if the music apps are on the background.
jrgalang said:
I couldn't try Pandora given where I'm at. But yeah, Google Play Music works just as same as Spotify. No need to have the app open, I mostly have Car Launcher Pro on screen OR my GPS app and I can hit next / previous even if the music apps are on the background.
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wtf, I gotta figure out how to get that on my Joying.
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jrgalang said:
Hi all. I have a 2011 Hyundai Accent that used to run a HuiFei KGL4 Hyundai-specific 7" unit. It's been one rollercoaster ride with that unit, having to deal with the following:
1) Underpowered USB ports (had to solder a voltage step-down converter to amp it up for it to work properly)
2) The latest ROM forces me to wait 30 seconds for the unit to shut down after turning off ignition, otherwise my PKE car alarm won't trigger as all doors are generally closed within that time frame because I've already stepped out of the car. Funny piece is there's no way out of this even if I go back to an older software, or use an MCU that doesn't support sleep
3) Weak FM radio
After messing real bad with #3 above, killing one channel off of my FM radio (only right channel is working now) after breaking the electronic links for one of the caps needed, I decided it's time to let go. Not to mention that the reseller that I've brought it from is no longer responding when it comes to asking for replacement parts and Kai Ge Le doesn't sell parts from products that weren't directly bought from them. Malaysk' great ROM helped me get through the day for a while, but hey, when you want a fully working product, you gotta move some time right?
The next dilemma was: should I go with Joying or any other HuiFei-based Android radio and potentially deal with the same thing? Then I thought... man, it's time to accept I'm not too good with soldering and I can't risk messing another brand new radio just for dealing with the same thing.
Long-story short, I went with a not so known MCU / manufacturer / reseller combo this time around for hopes I'd get different results. It may be a bit of a challenge to get support from the community granted none of my searches yielded any results for the MCU the device is using, but man... with how the ROM of this new unit working fluidly as it is, I'm finally content.
Some distinct differences with HuiFei:
1) Boot-up time. Before upgrading my KGL4 to RK3188, boot-up time was 30 seconds. When I upgraded to RK3188 roughly ~15 seconds. In this unit? I don't even notice waiting for boot. It properly turns off USB connected devices so my battery does not get drained- tried for 5 days now and has been consistently fine.
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
3) RADIO - I can't emphasize this enough. In days where I just want to use the radio instead of songs from streaming apps, man, this unit delivers! It subdues the static / hisses well, and clearly picks up the same radio stations that I used to have in my car's factory radio that the KGL4 one struggled to pick-up.
4) Bluetooth function - I was never able to get my KGL4 unit to pair with my OBD2 device, no matter how many times I've back-read in the different threads. In this new unit, it was able to detect and pair with it the first time I tried! The plus part is that the Bluetooth config of this new unit allows you to enter the pair code for devices that requires it - at least on this one I'm sure the HuiFei units cannot prompt for the pairing code of the other device.
5) Support for external hard drives. I was unable to connect a 500GB external drive in my KGL4 before until I did the USB mod. For this new unit, it supports it right off the bat. No mods necessary.
6) There's an actual WIFI antenna!
Another plus for me is the screen size upgrade. The new device has 9" of real-estate. I did lose DVD functionality and potentially not have the option to update the software to 5.1 (runs on 4.4), but I can live with those. If anyone's familiar or has the same MCU as mine, or shares the same software build, let me know. Maybe that will be a good reference for anyone who'd potentially buy units from them. In the meantime, TC Car Audio has a store in AE if you want to inquire (Store ID 1360064). Looks like they also have a couple of 5.1 devices, just not sure if it shares the same MCU / ROM combo.
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for TC car audio. Just passing along the positive experience I have with their product, and hoping to help others see that there are better options out there beyond the more known brands.
MCU: 2016-04-25 10:38:12 KEQ_60_C6R_7706_5006_CAN(DaZhongWC)_Newlap
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Hello friend,
This is Nicole from Kaigele.
Sorry to tell you that,from your posted info and images,this unit is not from our factory.Maybe you need to contact your direct seller to get more help.
thanks
best regards
Nicole

Thinking about purchasing a unit, have questions

I've been doing android tablet installs for a while and I am considering moving to a head unit in my new car. I have some questions about them and was hoping I could get them answered here.
What I really want is a simple device that mirrors my phone to a screen in my car that allows touch input. Not just android auto because its missing things like being able to choose what media player I want to use (unless it can use GMMP and GrooveMusic) I don't want a streaming audio choice when I have a phone that has gigs of music on it. Is there something like that?
On the subject of screen mirroring, when you use it does it work with steering wheel controls? (I can use my phone and skip tracks using the wheel or open voice commands)
And the last thing, Are there any 8 inch units with minimal buttons like the NU5002 with 5.1.1 or higher?
I've looked and haven't been able to find answers to any of these so any help would be of great use to me.
sounds like this could be for you:
JY-UL138N2
https://www.carjoying.com/head-unit...cement-support-backup-camera-resolution-.html

Modify Android 8.1 head unit for better menus & easier BlueT controller compatibility

Modify Android 8.1 head unit for better menus & easier BlueT controller compatibility
I bought an iMars 7 from banggood, I believe it’s called a “Android Head Unit AC8227l” but from reading on here it could be a YT9217 or a YT9218 (?)
The menu systems I’ve seen running on these online, on pics or YouTube videos vary. But my menu system is quite clunky and limited.
I can connect a phone via Bluetooth for calls or on-device music controls, but I can not connect any Bluetooth controllers (I’d like a Bluetooth control for music and calls since using a touch screen and driving is a no-no). But I would also like to connect a Bluetooth games controller for my girlfriend to be able to play on it when we’re driving on long journeys.
Also, some better menu controls would be useful as the settings are limited at brightness, WiFi, and a few other minor things. Some display settings, better sound settings, and some others would be really useful.
I havnt wired the radio antenna in because of a lack of a female to female jack, and the reverse camera hasn’t been set up yet so their compatibility isn’t an issue right now!
Is there a way of modifying the software to allow for what I’m after? I’m decent with tech, but rooting an android device (even if that’s the correct terminology) is new to me!
Thank you for any help or advice
Braadlee said:
I bought an iMars 7 from banggood, I believe it’s called a “Android Head Unit AC8227l” but from reading on here it could be a YT9217 or a YT9218 (?)
The menu systems I’ve seen running on these online, on pics or YouTube videos vary. But my menu system is quite clunky and limited.
I can connect a phone via Bluetooth for calls or on-device music controls, but I can not connect any Bluetooth controllers (I’d like a Bluetooth control for music and calls since using a touch screen and driving is a no-no). But I would also like to connect a Bluetooth games controller for my girlfriend to be able to play on it when we’re driving on long journeys.
Also, some better menu controls would be useful as the settings are limited at brightness, WiFi, and a few other minor things. Some display settings, better sound settings, and some others would be really useful.
I havnt wired the radio antenna in because of a lack of a female to female jack, and the reverse camera hasn’t been set up yet so their compatibility isn’t an issue right now!
Is there a way of modifying the software to allow for what I’m after? I’m decent with tech, but rooting an android device (even if that’s the correct terminology) is new to me!
Thank you for any help or advice
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Sorry to say, but forget about all your wishes. BT is not available for other devices as phone and OBD.
Modifying the software to get this fixed... good luck...

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