Any issues with the Unlocked version in using it to T-Mobile?
[EDITED for accuracy] Yes - weaker signal on T-Mobile than the S5, with the unlocked international SM-G935FD (dual SIM). This might be due to the metal body around the antenna, or weaker modem.
Dandv, you are an idiot. Quit giving people false information. Your phone does get lte. You have an international version. Just because your phone says 4g doesn't mean your not getting lte. Everyone but the US labels lte as 4g. What the label says in the top right corner of your phone has no bearing on what you are getting as far as the international version goes. Here's how it breaks down international to us version. LTE=4G on international version. H+=What T-mobile calls 4G. H=3G and so on. It's just labeling and has nothing to do with what you are actually getting. If you don't believe me you can switch the network in the settings from lte to 4g and it will change the symbol from 4g to h+. Now, your signal is a whole different issue. A-the modem that came with your phone might not be optimized for T-mobile but you can find a different modem to try and flash via Odin. B-the phone supports all bands from every region. And C-the modem in the s7 might be weaker than the s5. My modem in my s6 is weaker and it's because of the metal body. This is very well known and could be found out if you did some research. Everything that I am telling you can be Googled if you don't believe me. This is suppose to be a helpful forum for people with questions so please stop giving false information.
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Dandv, you are an idiot. Quit giving people false information. Your phone does get lte. You have an international version. Just because your phone says 4g doesn't mean your not getting lte. Everyone but the US labels lte as 4g. What the label says in the top right corner of your phone has no bearing on what you are getting as far as the international version goes. Here's how it breaks down international to us version. LTE=4G on international version. H+=What T-mobile calls 4G. H=3G and so on. It's just labeling and has nothing to do with what you are actually getting. If you don't believe me you can switch the network in the settings from lte to 4g and it will change the symbol from 4g to h+. Now, your signal is a whole different issue. A-the modem that came with your phone might not be optimized for T-mobile but you can find a different modem to try and flash via Odin. B-the phone supports all bands from every region. And C-the modem in the s7 might be weaker than the s5. My modem in my s6 is weaker and it's because of the metal body. This is very well known and could be found out if you did some research. Everything that I am telling you can be Googled if you don't believe me. This is suppose to be a helpful forum for people with questions so please stop giving false information.
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I know it's not what was asked. but ZERO issues on ATT network with 935F.
In some regions they dont name it LTE, its Just 4G or 4G+. so if it displays 4G then you are on LTE
Any comments on International vs. T-Mobile version as far as everyday use and performance on T-Mobile? I'm trying to decide which version I should get. I like the absence of bloatware, etc. on International version (though T-mobile probably has the least of the big 4 carriers), and possibly better/more frequent (?) updates.
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Any comments on International vs. T-Mobile version as far as everyday use and performance on T-Mobile? I'm trying to decide which version I should get. I like the absence of bloatware, etc. on International version (though T-mobile probably has the least of the big 4 carriers), and possibly better/more frequent (?) updates.
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The international version doesn't completely lack bloatware. My G935FD has a bunch of apps that you can't remove (unless you root the phone): S Planner (a calendar, which keeps begging for permission to display notifications, via another notification!), MS suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, OneDrive, Skype), Samsung's browser (Chrome is already installed), an Email client, Facebook app that you can't remove if you want to use Metal instead, Samsung Gear (even if you don't have any Gear devices, you can't uninstall it) etc. There are lots of threads on debloating the S7.
I got the Dual sim version using it in hawaii and everything seems fine for me, no changes from my tmobile note 5.
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The international version doesn't completely lack bloatware. My G935FD has a bunch of apps that you can't remove (unless you root the phone): S Planner (a calendar, which keeps begging for permission to display notifications, via another notification!), MS suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, OneDrive, Skype), Samsung's browser (Chrome is already installed), an Email client, Facebook app that you can't remove if you want to use Metal instead, Samsung Gear (even if you don't have any Gear devices, you can't uninstall it) etc. There are lots of threads on debloating the S7.
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That's not really bloatware at least like it is in the US, but I know what you mean.
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The international version doesn't completely lack bloatware. My G935FD has a bunch of apps that you can't remove (unless you root the phone): S Planner (a calendar, which keeps begging for permission to display notifications, via another notification!), MS suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneNote, OneDrive, Skype), Samsung's browser (Chrome is already installed), an Email client, Facebook app that you can't remove if you want to use Metal instead, Samsung Gear (even if you don't have any Gear devices, you can't uninstall it) etc. There are lots of threads on debloating the S7.
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Agreed, that's a lot of junk I don't need, but at least it's without the carrier bloatware.
How about real-world performance...any differences I would notice (i.e., the pros/cons)?
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Agreed, that's a lot of junk I don't need, but at least it's without the carrier bloatware.
How about real-world performance...any differences I would notice (i.e., the pros/cons)?
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exynos are better than SD820 in term of dev and battery live
DUOS on T-Mobile
I just received my DUOS today. Ijbterms of reception, seems about half as weak a signal as from my s6 edge I upgraded from.
My major concern is the 4G vs LTE connectivity. I understand how most of the world dubs LTE as 4G, however my worry is not what tiny icon displays in the corner of the screen, its the performance...
My s6-edge was getting the "LTE" speeds of 15mb/s down but now I'm currently faced with speeds 70% slower.
I've checked in settings under Sim manager and mobile networks, but can't seem to change anything.
I know there was mention of finding the right modem firmware to flash onto the phone depending on region of use, can anyone advise me what I might try switching it to?
DJ.A-BOMG said:
I just received my DUOS today. Ijbterms of reception, seems about half as weak a signal as from my s6 edge I upgraded from.
My major concern is the 4G vs LTE connectivity. I understand how most of the world dubs LTE as 4G, however my worry is not what tiny icon displays in the corner of the screen, its the performance...
My s6-edge was getting the "LTE" speeds of 15mb/s down but now I'm currently faced with speeds 70% slower.
I've checked in settings under Sim manager and mobile networks, but can't seem to change anything.
I know there was mention of finding the right modem firmware to flash onto the phone depending on region of use, can anyone advise me what I might try switching it to?
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What do you have when you dial *#0011# ?
Hi, any luck getting band 12 to work?
Also if you guys can recommend a good app/way to mesure reception strentgh I have both a 935F and 935T running on T-mobile so I can measure speeds if needed - in my apartment (in NYC) I seem to be getting less signal on the international than on the Tmo (1-2 bars vs 4), but call quality is fine.
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Hi, any luck getting band 12 to work?
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The phone has band 12 but it won't connect to it with tmobile. It needs tmobile specific files which the international rom doesn't have which is bs.
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Also if you guys can recommend a good app/way to mesure reception strentgh I have both a 935F and 935T running on T-mobile so I can measure speeds if needed - in my apartment (in NYC) I seem to be getting less signal on the international than on the Tmo (1-2 bars vs 4), but call quality is fine.
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There are plenty of signal in the play store. But don't be tricked by bars. Tmobile plays around with bars and dB values. The international version keeps it real. It'll tell you the truest bar value in my opinion. With tmobile, where most phoned would show 2 bars, tmobile will show 3-5 bars on their phone, making you think you have excellent service everywhere
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dandv said:
Facebook app that you can't remove if you want to use Metal instead, Samsung Gear (even if you don't have any Gear devices, you can't uninstall it) etc. There are lots of threads on debloating the S7.
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Well, I managed to get Facebook off my phone and I'm not rooted
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SD here on tmo, no issues. Better reception than on my iphone 6 plus on tmo.
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SD here on tmo, no issues. Better reception than on my iphone 6 plus on tmo.
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hi, I just got the 935f and still have a 935t, I compared signal reception and strength between the two, see my post in the t-mobile section, oh and I get LTE over band 12. One funny thing is that the 935F seems to connect to different towers than the t-mobile one I have no idea why... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66740184&postcount=47
So I have the 935f and here's some things I'm seeing. It does have band 12, though no Volte. When I do *#0011# it shows the phone as being in band 12. Now here's the thing, in band 12 on T-Mobile the speed is nowhere near the speed of Band 4, but the phone seems to want to stay in Band 12. I've used a "connection stabilizer" app and it does seem to "bump" the phone into Band 4. I'm no expert on this stuff, but this is my personal experience as the phone is "stuck" in band 12 otherwise. I'm just north of Detroit, and here are my speedtest results in my house. Keep in mind I have never had good reception in my home, 2-3 bars max.
On 2 bars at time of test in my house
Band 12 down 1.71 Mbps up .12 Mbps
Band 4 with app on down 18.90 Mbps up .19 Mbps
Does someone know a better fix for this than an app, it works but it's a major battery drain .
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T-Mobile uses the 1700MHz and 2100MHz frequencies for 4G LTE data, and the Galaxy S5 Active supports 1700 and 2100, according to GSMArena.
1) Why then is the phone listed everywhere as "For AT&T"?
2) If I buy an S5 Active without a contract, how will data work on T-Mobile? 3G? 4G? 4G LTE?
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how will data work on T-Mobile? 3G? 4G? 4G LTE?
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Any given S5 model has the hardware capability to operate on all of the GSM and LTE bands. But Samsung can sell more phones, and carriers can deter you from jumping ship too readily by marketing lots of different S5 models that have various incompatibilities.
The S5 Active or SM-G870ADGEATT is a ruggedized variant, exclusive to ATT. So why is it said to be for ATT? Marketing.
As to compatibility with TMobile, assuming that you SIM unlock it, it can operate on most of the TMB bands. But again ATT has put a lot of thought into how to discourage you from moving to a different carrier. To wit, they have omitted support for TMB's 3G 1700 and LTE band 8.
You'd have to find out how widely TMB uses those bands to know if that would be a large impact on data use or not.
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T-Mobile uses the 1700MHz and 2100MHz frequencies for 4G LTE data, and the Galaxy S5 Active supports 1700 and 2100, according to GSMArena.
1) Why then is the phone listed everywhere as "For AT&T"?
2) If I buy an S5 Active without a contract, how will data work on T-Mobile? 3G? 4G? 4G LTE?
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There was a rumor posted 2 months ago on the Android Community that a T-Mobile version of the Galaxy S5 Active (model SM-G870T vs the AT&T model SM-G870A) would be out in late July. Here's a link.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-active-availability-leaks-out-20140529/
Obviously it's late July now and we haven't seen it but I'm wondering if AT&T got an exclusive on the Galaxy S5 Active for a few months and T-Mobile will release it after the exclusivity period expires.
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Any given S5 model has the hardware capability to operate on all of the GSM and LTE bands. But Samsung can sell more phones, and carriers can deter you from jumping ship too readily by marketing lots of different S5 models that have various incompatibilities.
The S5 Active or SM-G870ADGEATT is a ruggedized variant, exclusive to ATT. So why is it said to be for ATT? Marketing.
As to compatibility with TMobile, assuming that you SIM unlock it, it can operate on most of the TMB bands. But again ATT has put a lot of thought into how to discourage you from moving to a different carrier. To wit, they have omitted support for TMB's 3G 1700 and LTE band 8.
You'd have to find out how widely TMB uses those bands to know if that would be a large impact on data use or not.
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Sorry to dredge up an old topic, however you mentioned that the S5 active has the hardware capability to support all TMB bands, 1700 included, but then say "To wit, they have omitted support for TMB'S 3G 1700 and LTE band 8". Does this just mean the stock AT&T ROM is the only limiting factor? So, were I to flash the AT&T stock ROM and install a Tmobile ROM for example I could then utilize ALL of Tmobile ' 3G and LTE bands? (And wifi calling to boot).
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S5 Active is pretty limited on Tmobile network
"Sorry to dredge up an old topic, however you mentioned that the S5 active has the hardware capability to support all TMB bands, 1700 included, but then say "To wit, they have omitted support for TMB'S 3G 1700 and LTE band 8". Does this just mean the stock AT&T ROM is the only limiting factor? So, were I to flash the AT&T stock ROM and install a Tmobile ROM for example I could then utilize ALL of Tmobile ' 3G and LTE bands? (And wifi calling to boot).
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I NEED to do something with my S5 Active to get it working better on Tmobile. I love the S5A... its a perfect phone for me. Not too big, but big enough. Rugged, waterproof, good camera, uSD card, etc. Without WiFi Calling and support for all of Tmo's freq & channels, its severely limiting.
I'd pay someone to help me convert my phone to Tmobiles stock S5 5.1.1 ROM and baseband radio firmware.
Help!
Jim
Also having the same problem with an unlocked S5 Active originally setup for AT&T. It uses the EDGE network only.
Has anyone successfully modified the phone to utilize the TMB 1700 band or the LTE band 8 as mentioned in this post? (either through ROM upgrade or other)?
I love the S5 Active, but using it with T-Mobile is such a hassle. I have the $30/mo. prepaid plan that includes unlimited text and data, so I'm not changing carriers anytime soon, but I have to buy new phones outright. When I bought this for myself last December, I saw it was compatible with T-Mobile so I pulled the trigger - a mistake in retrospect.
I'm from a large metro-area but T-Mobile's 4G signal is nearly impossible to get with this phone. Aside from never being able to connect to the internet when out of my apartment, sending/receiving MMS texts are a chore. I also discovered today that my android OS with this phone hasn't updated itself since I bought it - it's still running 4.4.2 and when I try to check for updates to Android through my device settings, it tells me AT&T has no new available updates at this time (there have in fact been 3 new updates AT&T released during this time).
So while I really love the phone, I'm going to have to sell it and look for a new device that's actually compatible with T-Mobile's network.
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I would go in the VPN settings and manually reset the ports and frequencies the phone reads and when it reads the T-Mobile sim card that it reads upon boot up.
Now, I'm running similar set up with Samsung Galaxy S4 & S5 (At&T variants), it seems like it works, have tried it on friend's S5 Active and it works perfectly.
The only problem is that you won't get to enjoy the freedom of wifi calling even though u have T-Mobile sim card and service, But at least u will be guaranteed to use T-Mobile 4G LTE speed and signals. Occassionally, T-Mobile will blackout or a region without T-Mobile and automatically the phone will roam with no charge and use AT&T signals for up to 15 minutes or depending to circumstances of the situation.
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I love the S5 Active, but using it with T-Mobile is such a hassle. I have the $30/mo. prepaid plan that includes unlimited text and data, so I'm not changing carriers anytime soon, but I have to buy new phones outright. When I bought this for myself last December, I saw it was compatible with T-Mobile so I pulled the trigger - a mistake in retrospect.
I'm from a large metro-area but T-Mobile's 4G signal is nearly impossible to get with this phone. Aside from never being able to connect to the internet when out of my apartment, sending/receiving MMS texts are a chore. I also discovered today that my android OS with this phone hasn't updated itself since I bought it - it's still running 4.4.2 and when I try to check for updates to Android through my device settings, it tells me AT&T has no new available updates at this time (there have in fact been 3 new updates AT&T released during this time).
So while I really love the phone, I'm going to have to sell it and look for a new device that's actually compatible with T-Mobile's network.
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To get the At&T updates, I would advise you to go to Ebay and buy a prepaid At&t sim card for the phone and use it temporarily just to update it all the up to 5.1 Android OS and your phone will be running up to date. (cost anywhere from $3.99 to $15.99)
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I would go in the VPN settings and manually reset the ports and frequencies the phone reads and when it reads the T-Mobile sim card that it reads upon boot up.
Now, I'm running similar set up with Samsung Galaxy S4 & S5 (At&T variants), it seems like it works, have tried it on friend's S5 Active and it works perfectly.
The only problem is that you won't get to enjoy the freedom of wifi calling even though u have T-Mobile sim card and service, But at least u will be guaranteed to use T-Mobile 4G LTE speed and signals. Occassionally, T-Mobile will blackout or a region without T-Mobile and automatically the phone will roam with no charge and use AT&T signals for up to 15 minutes or depending to circumstances of the situation.
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To get the At&T updates, I would advise you to go to Ebay and buy a prepaid At&t sim card for the phone and use it temporarily just to update it all the up to 5.1 Android OS and your phone will be running up to date. (cost anywhere from $3.99 to $15.99)
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I got the AT&T updates by going into a Best Buy where they have a Samsung Experience center, took about 10 minutes but they updated my phone. I'll have to look into the VPN settings and see if there's anything I can do, but after purchasing the phone online I did have the folks at a T-Mobile store set the phone up for me so I would've figured they would have set it up proper.
Thinking of going to TMobile
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I got the AT&T updates by going into a Best Buy where they have a Samsung Experience center, took about 10 minutes but they updated my phone. I'll have to look into the VPN settings and see if there's anything I can do, but after purchasing the phone online I did have the folks at a T-Mobile store set the phone up for me so I would've figured they would have set it up proper.
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I have a S5 Active and I was considering making the jump to TMo, but I really would like the functionality of the wi-fi calling and text, since I work in a hospital and can get no reception or texts. Pardon me if this is a dumb question as I have no experience in jumping carriers with rooted phones, but would I get the features if I had the TMo sim, applied the TMo APN's, flashed a TMo stock or custom rom that has the features baked in? Would I just flash the 870a kernel to make it work? Anybody that has any ideas, I would love to hear them. Thanks
I'm on T-Mobile, would it be worth getting the S5 Active? I currently have the S4 Active.
Right now (just started looking into this) this seems like a no-brainer. Performance is much better and it's rooted!!!! I know you lose wifi calling in theory (although mine hasn't worked since I purchased it despite hours of troubleshooting and tweaking (sucks bc no coverage at home (rural)), but that can potentially be addressed by a custom rom? Thoughts?
I did the switch. Battery life is better. Speed difference is unnoticeable. Signal/Calling quality is fine. I would most likely switch back if root was available for the t-mobile model (but wouldn't if advanced calling was available for international).
Getting wifi calling + VOLTE + video calling is no small task if that matters to you (the S6's wifi calling was never ported to international models even though they shared the same chipset). It would take porting a qualcomm written csc to a exynos chipset and either porting t-mobile's custom ims implimentation or making the standard ims implimentation work with t-mobile. That being said, it has been done. The Galaxy S5 saw advanced calling from the S6 ported back, HTC's flagships have had wifi calling ported.
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
hi, I switched too and I'm glad I did, battery is definitely better and I didn't notice performance differences (nor reception). I believe wifi calling hasn't been/can't be ported but some roms support VOLTE. Just be advised that samsung doesn't honor the warranty of international variants in the US hence insurance companies such as Upsie won't insure your device.
How do you switch?
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You have no warranty though, and Samsung Pay can be tricky to get working.
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Just got an international variant yesterday. Loving it but been struggling to change my CSC to one that supports Samsung Pay. I know the LYS CSC supports it and I've flashed it in Odin which reported success and did fine but upon using my device it didn't change my CSC. So confused as to why...
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Buy a 935F from ebay/swappa. Pay off your 935t, sell it on swappa/ebay.
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How do you switch?
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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This is my SM-935T Model phone two sim cards active okay..?
i bought it on ebay dual sim for 620$ shipped. its way snappier and the battery life is significantly better. i havent rooted it yet
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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What CSC are you on?
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I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
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My experience with my international S6 was very similar to yours. I moved back to the states with it and signed up with T-mobile. In my gym, which is underground, I could barely get a 4G signal (or nothing at all). Emails and notifications wouldn't come through even when I was connected to 4G. I got the s7e on tmobile and although signal still isn't strong, notifications come through reliably.
Not too scientific as they are different phone models and I've never paid this observation too much mind but now that I've heard your story, I'm inclined to think that carrier specific models might be better at picking up signal on that carrier.
Been using international version for a while, returned my t-mobile version on the 20th day, by that time it was apparent to me that the t-mobile version would not be getting rooted anytime soon. In my opinion this device is much better rooted, especially since i like a lot of color schemes on my status bar and the Ads were driving me crazy. would've preferred a rooted t-mobile version, but a rooted international version is light years better than a stock version of any kind imo.
I'm on MID (Iraq)
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What CSC are you on?
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I just bought the 935F and I am stuck on Edge data. I also have the At&t model of the gs7 edge and I get full LTE and good speeds in the exact same spot. Same sim card, and I believe I'm using the correct APN settings. I want to switch to the international model because at&t ruins this phone with bloatware. I get a lot of lag on the at&t gs7 edge, and no lag at all on the 935F. Now I just need the LTE to work!!
Anyone able to try and help? I did search the forum first and didnt see anything relevant.
do you see 4G instead but not LTE on your 935F? US carriers call HSPA+ 4G (while it's 3G+) so when their branded phones are in LTE they add an LTE (or 4G LTE for tmobile) icon. My G935F always shows 4G but it's actually LTE. You can dial *#0011# to check for reception or download the LTE discovery app to check your reception
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do you see 4G instead but not LTE on your 935F? US carriers call HSPA+ 4G (while it's 3G+) so when their branded phones are in LTE they add an LTE (or 4G LTE for tmobile) icon. My G935F always shows 4G but it's actually LTE. You can dial *#0011# to check for reception or download the LTE discovery app to check your reception
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Thank you very much for the reply. I see E for edge data. I think I may have made some progress by changing the APN settings though. I am seeing LTE now, but the speeds are terrible. Nothing close to what I was getting with the ATT branded version of the GS7E.
Anyone know exactly what APN settings the G935F should be using on ATT? I have unlimited data, so I want to be able to use it!
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I just bought the 935F and I am stuck on Edge data. I also have the At&t model of the gs7 edge and I get full LTE and good speeds in the exact same spot. Same sim card, and I believe I'm using the correct APN settings. I want to switch to the international model because at&t ruins this phone with bloatware. I get a lot of lag on the at&t gs7 edge, and no lag at all on the 935F. Now I just need the LTE to work!!
Anyone able to try and help? I did search the forum first and didnt see anything relevant.
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It has nothing to do with the APN, but you have to tell AT&T you have an AT&T branded phone and give them an imei of that phone. Or your 935F will not be able to get lte.
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It has nothing to do with the APN, but you have to tell AT&T you have an AT&T branded phone and give them an imei of that phone. Or your 935F will not be able to get lte.
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Hmm, Ok thank you. I'll try that now. I haven't been on att in years, and don't remember having to do that but I will now.
Yeah if you don't have an ATT branded phone they will limit you to the 4g network and not the new LTE network. I bought a cheap Motorola LTe phone that was an at&t approved. I gave them its imei, and I started to get lte.
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It has nothing to do with the APN, but you have to tell AT&T you have an AT&T branded phone and give them an imei of that phone. Or your 935F will not be able to get lte.
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Ok so I worked with At&t and gave them the IMEI, but still no LTE data
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It has nothing to do with the APN, but you have to tell AT&T you have an AT&T branded phone and give them an imei of that phone. Or your 935F will not be able to get lte.
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No, you do not have to give AT&T the IMEI of your 935F phone.
I just got back to the US, popped my AT&T SIM card in my new intl S7e (935FD) and LTE works as it should. I get speeds of >10 Mbs
LTE bands 2 & 17 are used (in my area - Portland)
Not getting full speed LTE
I have the 935FD S7E. I just went to the AT&T store as I needed a nano sim. The guy who helped me did a Speed Test right next to me performing the exact same test. His AT&T S7 was receiving in the mid to high 30's for download speed while I was getting in the mid 20's. He checked the APN, we assumed that I was getting an LTE speed even though no LTE icon showed. However his S7 was receiving significantly consistent faster data rates than I was getting.
Is there anything I can do to resolve this?
This will be the main hindrance for me buying the international version. If someone gets the LTE thing figured out I'm all in
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For what it's worth, AT&T LTE problems in my case were caused by custom ROM.
I just got International S7 Edge (G935F), and without thinking, rooted it and installed SuperMan-ROM 1.8.1. In that state I did have LTE formally, but speeds were very bad. Tried turning data on/off, changing APNs - nothing helped. As a result, in some places data connection barely worked (1.0 Mbps down / 0.1 Mbps up), and the best result reported by SpeedTest was around 4 Mbps up/down. At the same time, when I moved this SIM card into older XPeria phone, it consistently showed ~15 Mbps up/down, which was normal performance for me on AT&T prepaid in NYC. Unfortunately, I didn't check LTE performance with the original default ROM on the Edge, but I recorded all versions.
I went back to stock ROM using this German stock firmware. It was possible to switch to English during installation. Other downloads in that thread are dead links. I immediately did official OTA update, and after that, I now have normal LTE performance on AT&T (15+ Mbps).
I am pretty sure that at least in my case, the radio which the custom ROM insisted I have (G935FXXU1APEQ) was the problem. After going back to stock, I have baseband G935FXXU1APD1, which is what I had out-of-the-box.
cozzamara said:
For what it's worth, AT&T LTE problems in my case were caused by custom ROM.
I just got International S7 Edge (G935F), and without thinking, rooted it and installed SuperMan-ROM 1.8.1. In that state I did have LTE formally, but speeds were very bad. Tried turning data on/off, changing APNs - nothing helped. As a result, in some places data connection barely worked (1.0 Mbps down / 0.1 Mbps up), and the best result reported by SpeedTest was around 4 Mbps up/down. At the same time, when I moved this SIM card into older XPeria phone, it consistently showed ~15 Mbps up/down, which was normal performance for me on AT&T prepaid in NYC. Unfortunately, I didn't check LTE performance with the original default ROM on the Edge, but I recorded all versions.
I went back to stock ROM using this German stock firmware. It was possible to switch to English during installation. Other downloads in that thread are dead links. I immediately did official OTA update, and after that, I now have normal LTE performance on AT&T (15+ Mbps).
I am pretty sure that at least in my case, the radio which the custom ROM insisted I have (G935FXXU1APEQ) was the problem. After going back to stock, I have baseband G935FXXU1APD1, which is what I had out-of-the-box.
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Imgo to try this you flash via Odin?
I got the S7 edge 935FD on t-mobile , I am running Superman room. I noticed that sometimes having full bars of LTE , my connection is really slow I check it with Speed Test and it is under 0.3 Mb. I installed the recommended Modem and Bootloader, and I also try with different CSCs , like XEF,XSG and XSA. At some places with 2 or 3 bars I got 60Mb with speed test , and in others that my old phone get 18Mb , I got 0.2Mb , and my connection is too slow. I tried also other rooms and I am getting similar results. What I am missing?, Could be my phone?, Is this happening to the S7 international versions in the US?
Thank you
APN Setting is not right?
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APN Setting is not right?
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Definitely APN settings are right, I checked in tmobile website and I also call them to be 100% sure.
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I am thinking buy 935fd.That is what I afraid. I saw some forum say some 935fd problem with network speed.
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considering
I am trying to decide if I want the 935FD, but am also worried about data speeds in US. does anyone have any newer recommendations?
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I got the S7 edge 935FD on t-mobile , I am running Superman room. I noticed that sometimes having full bars of LTE , my connection is really slow I check it with Speed Test and it is under 0.3 Mb. I installed the recommended Modem and Bootloader, and I also try with different CSCs , like XEF,XSG and XSA. At some places with 2 or 3 bars I got 60Mb with speed test , and in others that my old phone get 18Mb , I got 0.2Mb , and my connection is too slow. I tried also other rooms and I am getting similar results. What I am missing?, Could be my phone?, Is this happening to the S7 international versions in the US?
Thank you
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What band is being used when you connect to LTE?
Dial *#0011# when you're on LTE and click STACK 1 if it's in the first SIM slot, and STACK 2 if it's in the second one.
It'll show you Band information.
Secondly, it could also be because of the carrier aggregation stuff, maybe the Exynos variant of the S7E isn't compatible with T-Mobile's Carrier Aggregated LTE network and hence only uses one band for LTE, which will result in poor speeds for the user.
So I am looking to buy an international (or Latin) version of either the S10+ or the Note 10+.
I am on T-Mobile in the U.S.
1. How "bad" will it be if the phone has 3 out of T-Mobile's main bands? It only lacks 71, so what's the impact will be if I don't have band 71 on this phone with T-Mobile?
2. I read in the forum about flashing T-Mobile firmware on unlocked phones. How necessary is it? I prefer not to mess with flashing anything; done it in the past, I am not 'afraid' of it, but I just don't feel like going that route. Will I be missing anything from the T-Mobile network and services if I keep the phone in its stock ROM?
For example: Wifi Calling (important to me), VoLTE, etc. Will I have access to these features if I don't flash the carrier's firmware?
Thank you.
Band 71 is used only in rural areas where cell towers are very far apart . My phones have never used band 71. If you don't know what bands your phone typically is using you can download a free signal app from the Play Store that will show what band your phone is connected to. Unless you live in a very rural area or frequently find yourself in rural areas it's unlikely you need band 71.
Flashing T-Mobile firmware shouldn't be necessary. I don't have the international S10+ but rather the US unlocked model and I get both WiFi Calling and Volte fine without T-Mobile firmware.
I've used many different models of international unlocked phones from Xiaomi and Huawei on T-Mobile and always got both WiFi Calling and Volte to work with only one exception--the Mate 20 Pro. I had to get rid of that phone even though I really liked it because calls kept going to voicemail without the phone ever ringing first.
It turns out that on T-Mobile if your phone supports band 12 it also needs to support Volte or calls go straight to voicemail without ringing if the caller is using Volte . I never had that problem previously because in 5 years of using international unlocked phones the M20P was the first where Volte didn't work on T-Mobile.
There were lots of posts from T-Mobile customers in the XDA M20P threads about calls going straight to voicemail. I haven't read a single post about that issue with the S10+ so it's pretty safe to assume that the international S10+ works fine with Volte on T-Mobile.
Until the S8 Samsung didn't even sell a US unlocked model--everyone in the US with unlocked Samsung phones were using the international models with the Exynos chip and those phones always worked perfectly with T-Mobile which is very BYOP friendly (unlike AT&T).
The only thing you would be missing on the vanilla Samsung firmware is Visual Voicemail but last I checked you could just download the official T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store.
You would also receive your OTA updates from Samsung rather than T-Mobile but that's actually a plus because the unlocked Exynos models receive updates much more quickly than all of the US models including the unlocked Snapdragon models.
Sorry for the very long answer but I wanted to be thorough.
You should be fine with an international unlocked S10+ on T-Mobile. This is a much better phone than unlocked models from Google Pixel and One Plus so I would recommend going for it.
No manual flashing on your part will be necessary.
@jhs39 - Thank you for your extensive response. It is greatly appreciated!
OK, so I mostly use Band 4 with my current phone, which is one of TMB's main bands, so it seems like that indeed the lack of 71 won't be an issue.
However, how do I know if the Int. version will support VoLTE on the TMB network? I can't see anywhere any information about this phone even supports VoLTE (other than the carrier's model of course).
What about Video Calling?
Thanks again.
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@jhs39 - Thank you for your extensive response. It is greatly appreciated!
OK, so I mostly use Band 4 with my current phone, which is one of TMB's main bands, so it seems like that indeed the lack of 71 won't be an issue.
However, how do I know if the Int. version will support VoLTE on the TMB network? I can't see anywhere any information about this phone even supports VoLTE (other than the carrier's model of course).
What about Video Calling?
Thanks again.
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If the international model didn't support Volte on T-Mobile there would be posts on XDA complaining about calls going straight to voicemail without the phone ringing. There were multiple threads about that issue in the M20P section but I haven't seen a single complaint about that happening with the S10+.
This phone has been out since early Spring so if there was a problem using the international model with T-Mobile somebody would have reported it by now.
I don’t know anything about video calling though because I use T-Mobile's network via an MVNO and my carrier doesn't offer video calling.
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Band 71 is used only in rural areas where cell towers are very far apart . My phones have never used band 71. If you don't know what bands your phone typically is using you can download a free signal app from the Play Store that will show what band your phone is connected to. Unless you live in a very rural area or frequently find yourself in rural areas it's unlikely you need band 71.
Flashing T-Mobile firmware shouldn't be necessary. I don't have the international S10+ but rather the US unlocked model and I get both WiFi Calling and Volte fine without T-Mobile firmware.
I've used many different models of international unlocked phones from Xiaomi and Huawei on T-Mobile and always got both WiFi Calling and Volte to work with only one exception--the Mate 20 Pro. I had to get rid of that phone even though I really liked it because calls kept going to voicemail without the phone ever ringing first.
It turns out that on T-Mobile if your phone supports band 12 it also needs to support Volte or calls go straight to voicemail without ringing if the caller is using Volte . I never had that problem previously because in 5 years of using international unlocked phones the M20P was the first where Volte didn't work on T-Mobile.
There were lots of posts from T-Mobile customers in the XDA M20P threads about calls going straight to voicemail. I haven't read a single post about that issue with the S10+ so it's pretty safe to assume that the international S10+ works fine with Volte on T-Mobile.
Until the S8 Samsung didn't even sell a US unlocked model--everyone in the US with unlocked Samsung phones were using the international models with the Exynos chip and those phones always worked perfectly with T-Mobile which is very BYOP friendly (unlike AT&T).
The only thing you would be missing on the vanilla Samsung firmware is Visual Voicemail but last I checked you could just download the official T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store.
You would also receive your OTA updates from Samsung rather than T-Mobile but that's actually a plus because the unlocked Exynos models receive updates much more quickly than all of the US models including the unlocked Snapdragon models.
Sorry for the very long answer but I wanted to be thorough.
You should be fine with an international unlocked S10+ on T-Mobile. This is a much better phone than unlocked models from Google Pixel and One Plus so I would recommend going for it.
No manual flashing on your part will be necessary.
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That's odd. I'm using a mate 20X and the although it lacks bands 66 and 71 I don't get calls going to voicemail. In fact when viewing my historical phone signal via gsam app, it shows that I always receive a better signal than even the S10+ that I'm currently using. Both devices on T-Mobile USA.
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sbi1 said:
So I am looking to buy an international (or Latin) version of either the S10+ or the Note 10+.
I am on T-Mobile in the U.S.
1. How "bad" will it be if the phone has 3 out of T-Mobile's main bands? It only lacks 71, so what's the impact will be if I don't have band 71 on this phone with T-Mobile?
2. I read in the forum about flashing T-Mobile firmware on unlocked phones. How necessary is it? I prefer not to mess with flashing anything; done it in the past, I am not 'afraid' of it, but I just don't feel like going that route. Will I be missing anything from the T-Mobile network and services if I keep the phone in its stock ROM?
For example: Wifi Calling (important to me), VoLTE, etc. Will I have access to these features if I don't flash the carrier's firmware?
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I have the Hong Kong variant SM-G975 with T-Mobile. No issues with bands, VoLTE. Wifi Calling or 4G, no impact. You won't need to flash the device.
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I have the Hong Kong variant SM-G975 with T-Mobile. No issues with bands, VoLTE. Wifi Calling or 4G, no impact. You won't need to flash the device.
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Thanks @varcor . What about Video calling?
BTW - is it 975F or something else?
I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best price I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
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I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
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Oh yeah, the legendary Never MSRP.
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Yep, I've bought a number of devices from them, won't use anyone else. Lowest prices, great customer service as well.
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I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best price I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
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I must the F model. I travel to Israel with a local SIM and they use the F model, and it's the only possibility I have to use their WiFi calling while there. I am not 100% sure it'll work because of firmware but better chances with F model.
Thanks.
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That's odd. I'm using a mate 20X and the although it lacks bands 66 and 71 I don't get calls going to voicemail. In fact when viewing my historical phone signal via gsam app, it shows that I always receive a better signal than even the S10+ that I'm currently using. Both devices on T-Mobile USA.
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Not having bands 66 & 71 don't cause the problem with T-Mobile calls going straight to voicemail--if band 12 is supported on a phone T-Mobile assumes the phone also supports Volte and if it doesn't then you get calls going straight to voicemail.
I'm not familiar with the Mate 20X but before the M20P I had a P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro and P10 Pro and none of those phones had an issue because T-Mobile Volte worked with all of them.
It's also possible the problem with the P20 Pro was fixed after I got rid of the phone since it was a firmware issue that was fixable in a software update . I kept mine for 6 months before throwing in the towel. The only workaround was to turn off 4G in the network settings. With 4G off you would receive all calls since Volte is a 4G function.
I personally love Huawei phones. Hopefully after Trump is gone all of the nonsense with Huawei being barred from using Google apps and bullied out of the US market will go away but they might decide selling their products here isn't worth the aggravation.
I've also used a bunch of unlocked Xiaomi phones on T-Mobile with no issues. A nice feature in MIUI is that if Volte doesn't work out of the box there's a dial code you can enter to manually enable it.
Band 66 is an offload for band 4 when band 4 traffic is high but if a phone doesn't have band 66 it just stays on 4 so not having 66 on an unlocked phone has never caused any problems for me.
Band 71 is only live in parts of the country and is relatively new. It can transmit a signal over unusually long distances and is used to provide cell coverage in rural areas where it would cost too much to build a full network of cell towers.
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Not having bands 66 & 71 don't cause the problem with T-Mobile calls going straight to voicemail--if band 12 is supported on a phone T-Mobile assumes the phone also supports Volte and if it doesn't then you get calls going straight to voicemail.
I'm not familiar with the Mate 20X but before the M20P I had a P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro and P10 Pro and none of those phones had an issue because T-Mobile Volte worked with all of them.
It's also possible the problem with the P20 Pro was fixed after I got rid of the phone since it was a firmware issue that was fixable in a software update . I kept mine for 6 months before throwing in the towel. The only workaround was to turn off 4G in the network settings. With 4G off you would receive all calls since Volte is a 4G function.
I personally love Huawei phones. Hopefully after Trump is gone all of the nonsense with Huawei being barred from using Google apps and bullied out of the US market will go away but they might decide selling their products here isn't worth the aggravation.
I've also used a bunch of unlocked Xiaomi phones on T-Mobile with no issues. A nice feature in MIUI is that if Volte doesn't work out of the box there's a dial code you can enter to manually enable it.
Band 66 is an offload for band 4 when band 4 traffic is high but if a phone doesn't have band 66 it just stays on 4 so not having 66 on an unlocked phone has never caused any problems for me.
Band 71 is only live in parts of the country and is relatively new. It can transmit a signal over unusually long distances and is used to provide cell coverage in rural areas where it would cost too much to build a full network of cell towers.
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P20 pro was certified and worked fully on T-Mobile , most devices after that were not.
I don't think my mate 20x connected to band 12, but if it did, then yes it'll probably go straight to voicemail.
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I must the F model. I travel to Israel with a local SIM and they use the F model, and it's the only possibility I have to use their WiFi calling while there. I am not 100% sure it'll work because of firmware but better chances with F model.
Thanks.
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The SM-G975F is the Exynos SoC variant for Europe. The SM-G9750 has the Snapdragon SoC and dual SIM's as well. Wifi Calling will work on both devices in any region, including Israel as long as the service provider offers it. The only thing I would recommend is you do some research on Exynos vs Snapdragon SoC's in the S10. Good luck!
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The SM-G975F is the Exynos SoC variant for Europe. The SM-G9750 has the Snapdragon SoC and dual SIM's as well. Wifi Calling will work on both devices in any region, including Israel as long as the service provider offers it. The only thing I would recommend is you do some research on Exynos vs Snapdragon SoC's in the S10. Good luck!
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I am aware of the differences between the two chips.
In regards to WiFi Calling - I am a bit skeptical. This provider does have WiFi calling services, however they have a list of devices that are supported. Clearly they list devices and firmwares that they sell, not BYOD phones, and they sell the F version. I currently use ZTE Axon 7, I have WiFi calling on T-Mobile but it does not work on the Israeli network and when I try to 'register' it for this service through their app, it clearly says that the device is not supported.
That being said - I can't tell you if my phone doesn't work on their WF calling because it's not even sold in Israel. It could very well be that any version of Galaxy S10+ will be supported regardless of firmware. simply because it is sold there. Clearly there is no way to know this beforehand. I asked them, they of course can only guarantee phones that are sold by them and are on the list.
BTW - the Israeli version of the 975F is single SIM, they don't have the D/S, although I can't imagine this should have any impact of phone supporting or not supporting WF calling.
What's the difference between the F and the O, other than the region they are sold in?
Thanks.
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P20 pro was certified and worked fully on T-Mobile , most devices after that were not.
I don't think my mate 20x connected to band 12, but if it did, then yes it'll probably go straight to voicemail.
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Devices don't need to be certified by T-Mobile to work with Volte. All of my recent Xiaomi phones worked with Volte--none of the models were officially sold in the US or certified by T-Mobile. The P20 Pro was not sold in the US so there was zero reason for it to be certified by T-Mobile. The last Huawei phone officially sold here was the Mate 10 Pro. AT&T and Verizon require that devices be certified by them to work with Volte on their networks but T-Mobile does not. T-Mobile is very BYOP friendly.
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Devices don't need to be certified by T-Mobile to work with Volte. All of my recent Xiaomi phones worked with Volte--none of the models were officially sold in the US or certified by T-Mobile. The P20 Pro was not sold in the US so there was zero reason for it to be certified by T-Mobile. The last Huawei phone officially sold here was the Mate 10 Pro. AT&T and Verizon require that devices be certified by them to work with Volte on their networks but T-Mobile does not. T-Mobile is very BYOP friendly.
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Thanks for the clarification. So why is it then that same device , but using different sim card would show the Volte toggle or hide it from the user menu? Example, mate 20 does have Volte capabilities yet its missing the Volte toggle switch. I know on the Xioami devices one can enter a #*code to force it show that option. I think what makes it even more convulsing is that Huawei global versions have various region firmware via their Cust codes. Each one I noticed behaves slighly different using same T-Mobile SIM card. Cheers
You mentioned all calls went to VM on up 20pro, why do you think that was the case, you mentioned earlier that you thought possibly it may have been firmware related amongst other things.
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I am aware of the differences between the two chips.
In regards to WiFi Calling - I am a bit skeptical. This provider does have WiFi calling services, however they have a list of devices that are supported. Clearly they list devices and firmwares that they sell, not BYOD phones, and they sell the F version. I currently use ZTE Axon 7, I have WiFi calling on T-Mobile but it does not work on the Israeli network and when I try to 'register' it for this service through their app, it clearly says that the device is not supported.
That being said - I can't tell you if my phone doesn't work on their WF calling because it's not even sold in Israel. It could very well be that any version of Galaxy S10+ will be supported regardless of firmware. simply because it is sold there. Clearly there is no way to know this beforehand. I asked them, they of course can only guarantee phones that are sold by them and are on the list.
BTW - the Israeli version of the 975F is single SIM, they don't have the D/S, although I can't imagine this should have any impact of phone supporting or not supporting WF calling.
What's the difference between the F and the O, other than the region they are sold in?
Thanks.
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You're correct regarding Single SIM for the SM-G975F, the Dual SIM option is available in the SM-G975F/DS. I personally wouldn't consider obtaining a device in Israel if the majority of the time I'm the US. The major differences are SoC's, a minor difference in CPU Clock Speed and Cores. The SM-G975F has no FM Radio and offers fewer Primary Network capabilities. You can view a back-to-back comparison here.
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...gb-vs-galaxy-s10-plus-sm-g9750-128gb/10134260
This is quite different than your original question but with that being stated I would be confident enough in the SM-G9750's compatibility with the Israeli network for Wifi Calling. The worst case is not having Wifi Calling in Israel, which isn't an absolute necessity however you'll have the Snapdragon SoC which is a far better chipset with fewer bugs. For me it's the obvious choice if I were faced with your considerations.
You're most welcome
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You're correct regarding Single SIM for the SM-G975F, the Dual SIM option is available in the SM-G975F/DS. I personally wouldn't consider obtaining a device in Israel if the majority of the time I'm the US. The major differences are SoC's, a minor difference in CPU Clock Speed and Cores. The SM-G975F has no FM Radio and offers fewer Primary Network capabilities. You can view a back-to-back comparison here.
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...gb-vs-galaxy-s10-plus-sm-g9750-128gb/10134260
This is quite different than your original question but with that being stated I would be confident enough in the SM-G9750's compatibility with the Israeli network for Wifi Calling. The worst case is not having Wifi Calling in Israel, which isn't an absolute necessity however you'll have the Snapdragon SoC which is a far better chipset with fewer bugs. For me it's the obvious choice if I were faced with your considerations.
You're most welcome
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SoC, meaning the chip?
You see, your definition of "worst case not having Wifi calling" is important to me , simply because where I usually stay in Israel there is almost no reception at all (inside the house I am staying in), that's the main reason I want a device that will be able to use their Wifi calling.
Also, I looked at the eBay seller that you mention and I don't even think he carries the O model any more, all I see is the F model, unless of course I am missing something.
Thanks.
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SoC, meaning the chip?
You see, your definition of "worst case not having Wifi calling" is important to me , simply because where I usually stay in Israel there is almost no reception at all (inside the house I am staying in), that's the main reason I want a device that will be able to use their Wifi calling.
Also, I looked at the eBay seller that you mention and I don't even think he carries the O model any more, all I see is the F model, unless of course I am missing something.
Thanks.
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SoC is System on Chip, same as Chipset. If Wifi calling is a top priority buy the Exynos device to be certain but be advised there are numerous concerns over the chipset on XDA and other sites, plus Network Aggrigaton for Exynos in the US has issues with some T-Mobile clients. You may lose Wifi Calling or VoLTE in the US.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/exynos-att-t-mobile-t3920491
They still offer the SM-G9750, the link I shared is correct, not sure you missed something. The also sell the SM-G975F and SM-G975F/DS.