Galaxy Note 6 - Verizon Galaxy Note 4 General

From what I read about the Note 6 the device is going to be a beast. These are rumors but:
6-inch flexible display
Android 6.0.1
4K Resolution
16-Core processor
Exynos + Snapdragon Chipset
6 GB RAM
32, 64, 128 GB Internal Storage
Micro SD card support (200 GB)
20 MP Primary camera
4000 mAh Battery
Also I read it will come with a dock so this thing is going to replace some computers with these specs.
I need to get it when it comes out in August but obviously it's going to be locked down on Verizon. What do you guys think the best carrier to buy it from to have it work on the Verizon network, unlocked, and eventually rooted? I think Sprint is the only other carrier using CDMA technology so I'm thinking to buy the Note 6 from Sprint full price without a contract. Any thoughts?

Us Cellular os CDMA
jcip17 said:
From what I read about the Note 6 the device is going to be a beast. These are rumors but:
6-inch flexible display
Android 6.0.1
4K Resolution
16-Core processor
Exynos + Snapdragon Chipset
6 GB RAM
32, 64, 128 GB Internal Storage
Micro SD card support (200 GB)
20 MP Primary camera
4000 mAh Battery
Also I read it will come with a dock so this thing is going to replace some computers with these specs.
I need to get it when it comes out in August but obviously it's going to be locked down on Verizon. What do you guys think the best carrier to buy it from to have it work on the Verizon network, unlocked, and eventually rooted? I think Sprint is the only other carrier using CDMA technology so I'm thinking to buy the Note 6 from Sprint full price without a contract. Any thoughts?
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US Cellular is CDMA. I to am tired of Verizon, but I just read an article that the S7 and S7 edge are locked down on T-Mobile and Sprint just like our Verizon Note 4's. That just leaves US Cellular but they might be dm-verity locked down too for all I know. No more Samsung phones for me. Nexus looks like the only way to go anymore.

I bought a USC Note 4 with the intent of having it unlocked and using it on Verizon. I was prepared for the only band incompatibility being that USC doesn't broadcast on band 13 LTE, so the phone didn't support that band. Band 4 LTE is supported... which is verizon's "XLTE" (the fast one)... and in most places I go, band 4 is prevalent. So... you should install LTE Discovery and see what bands you connect to everywhere to make sure you'll get LTE when you need it. In short... you won't get the most thorough LTE coverage with US Cellular... but it may be a non-issue to you if Band 4 is prevalent where you need it.
As far as my experience with that Note 4... I never got far enough to try. Turned out that the device I bought on Amazon was essentially "stolen" from the carrier because the device was still on a payment plan... which wasn't being paid on. And surprise! They wouldn't unlock a blacklisted phone. I filed a claim with Amazon, and I got a full refund. Better yet... I got to keep the device. I ended up buying a Developer Edition Note 4, and now my 2yr old son and I have the same phone. (It can't be used on ANY carrier now that it's blacklisted... but it's great for playing non-internet-connected games and episodes of PAW Patrol.)
PM me if you have questions about anything from above this line.
If they sell a Dev Edition of the Note 6... I'm buying one, even if I have to sell a kidney. But, I don't think I'll have to make that difficult decision. There's about as much chance of Samsung making (or should I say Verizon allowing Samung to make) another Developer Edition phone as there is a chance that I'll grow a spare 3rd kidney to sell.
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kerfex said:
US Cellular is CDMA. I to am tired of Verizon, but I just read an article that the S7 and S7 edge are locked down on T-Mobile and Sprint just like our Verizon Note 4's. That just leaves US Cellular but they might be dm-verity locked down too for all I know. No more Samsung phones for me. Nexus looks like the only way to go anymore.
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I didn't look into the other variants of the S7... but I'm saddened at the notion that even T-Mo has locked it down. I was in a T-Mo store a few months ago, hoping that the coverage was going to get better in my area. I asked if T-Mo would ever lock the bootloaders like Verizon insists upon, and he said no. If the S7 is bootloader-locked in all variants (from Samsung, not by the carrier)... it's got to be because they want to push Samsung Pay, which shouldn't work if the phone is rooted. Ugh... what a shame. They should just do it like Nexus phones... Android Pay just doesn't work if you're rooted. If you restore to stock, it works again. No need to lock the device down just to make sure one feature will always work.
Also... don't forget about Motorola phones in addition to Nexi. These are the only mainstream "carrier-agnostic" phones being produced, but there are more like the Nextbit Robin, which just got TWRP. By "carrier-agnostic" I mean they are sold direct from the manufacturer with all carrier bands enabled by default. CDMA, GSM, etc.

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Want to swap? My International 3G for your US LTE?

Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
i dont think its out yet.
codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!
Whoever traded with you would give you a locked device, tied to a two year contract.
Is there an easy way to unlock a device under current contract? Seems like you could only use it if you assumed the contract too.
Alternative suggestion: sell your device on here, for maybe $50 less than you paid, and get your own Verizon contract.
Hate to see anyone go to the Dark Side though....
mywingtophone said:
i dont think its out yet.
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Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.
spridell said:
Comes out thursday.
Verizon is charging insane prices though.
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How much is the no contract price for it?
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codeworks said:
Yes, I realize I may get harassed for this, however, I get much better US LTE cvoverage around me than I do the AT&T 3G, therefore, if you pick up a LTE 7.7 from Verizon and are interested in swapping for my 100% perfect condition International 3G version, let me know.
Thanks!
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Any interest on trading for this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520529
Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.
charliechocolate said:
Asked this in another thread. But do we know if there will ever be an international unlocked LTE version? I want to get one and use it with Rogers LTE in Canada.
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If there will be, you won't get it from Verizon. Theoretically, if AT&T offers one that will have a user-accessible SIM card so you could possibly have the device unlocked and use it with other compatible carriers. But, there's no indication that AT&T will be offering the 7.7 at this point.
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How much is the no contract price for it?
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Looks to be $699 off contract with Verizon
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I'm sorry that you don't have such decent AT&T coverage where you are, but I humbly propose that you are bat$hit crazy for wanting a locked down carrier subsidized device from Verizon... No offense...
I mean, with the VZW 7.7, you're saying goodbye to phone functionality, bigger community support (different internal hardware, different device, separate support). Also you're also saying goodbye to a device free of carrier bloat, lock-downs, and restrictions, just to name a few.
If LTE is all you want, get a VZW LTE hotspot and keep your P6800. Best of both worlds!
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Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
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unremarked said:
Internal hardware is the same with the obvious exception of the radios. There's already separate support for the WiFi and 3G models. There will be greater support for the LTE model because of its increased availability vs the international 3G. Both will be eclipsed by WiFi support when its more commercially avaliable, however, as evident in the tab's bigger brothers.
You're trading the ****ty "phone functionality"(find me a review praising this ability, the ones I've read trash the speaker/microphone) for the slightly more useful IR Blaster. Its a tablet and you(general populace) look stupid holding a 7.7" device to your face. I understand the rational of wanting to carry one device to suit all your needs, but... seriously. There only bloatware on the tablet is what Samsung put there as far as I know(I.e. Samsung apps, Peel, etc). Not to mention with the upcoming ICS upgrade, any worries about bloatware go out the window. I'm hard pressed to think of what "lock downs" and "restrictions" you're so worried about.
EDIT: all that being said, I agree with the MiFi solution. Its the path of least resistance.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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I dont think both of the internals are the same. The International version has an Exynos chip. I believe the LTE Verizon version does not have the Exynos chip. Exynos doesnt play nice with LTE so it must be a different chip.
I have been reading through all the blog posts regarding the Verizon release tomorrow, however, I have yet to see what processor is included within the device.
I have also heard that Exynos processors have issues with LTE radios, so I am guessing we will get the Snapdragon in this one.
Now, if tomorrow were today, Verizon would only be charging $399 for the device since they are knocking off $100 on every 4G LTE device for Leap Day.
The Samsung product website claims that it is Exynos. AFAIK it is the only device on which an Exynos SoC is paired with an LTE baseband (though that site doesn't say what the baseband is).
For whst its worth, according to folks(Anandtech, Engadget, etc) who handled the LTE model at CES, it is Exynos 1.4ghz processor.
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Samsung must have been able to get their Exynos chip to work with LTE.
This is great news if true. Especially for the upcoming Galaxy SIII.

Heed help with buying snapdragon s7 edge.

Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
Tectas said:
None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
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I saw people importing note 4 sm-910c to USA because its compatible with US lte frequences Same model sold in Russia. I think device itself can support this frequnces though they are not used there.
I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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Good point. I bother buying snapdragon mostly because of lower TDP and better 4g reception in past models. If exynos become equal in this areas i see no point in importing. And i dont wanna wait long cause if i preorder before 18 march i will get free gear vr though i dont need it xD
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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Yes, that's why I've removed the post, mixed the numbering, sorry.
But if you take a look, at least here aren't any of those bands supported at the U.S. variants.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180
But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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Would be the first time I hear something like the browser replaced by a carrier, but maybe possible, in common they just add stuff though and make small changes (modem, bootscreen,...). And yes, carrier devices in common get updates later, because the carriers have to incorporate their changes (which can be a few days to months, depends on the carrier), but at the european variants we're lucky with stock roms at least (or at least have been). In most cases you simply can flash a unbranded rom there through odin without second thought.

Galaxy Note 7 N930FD

anyone going to get this and use it on at&t?
i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
ekerbuddyeker said:
i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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which one is it missing?
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According to the N930FD spec sheet, this phone has all the necessary hardware to operate on AT&T. It supports 1900MHz (B2), 850MHz (B5), LTE700 (B17), and LTE1700/2100 (B4). There is no reason why it wouldn't work.
I've got it pre-ordered from AT&T. Wish it was the 19th already lol
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missing 2 bands. b29 & b30
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...-td-lte/samsung-sm-n930a-galaxy-note-7-td-lte
That's why I ended up pre-ordering the ATT version
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The 2 missing bands don't seem to be a big deal
Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
One advantage of ATT is for WHEN the devices go wrong. I have had to switch practically evert note I ever had from Note 1 through 5. They are very good at that.
That's one worry about getting the device from a 3rd party seller, for me anyway.
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so in retrospect how important are the 2 missing bands? The one that tracks you does it cause issues with the GPS??
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...I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT......Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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I didn't even know what those 2 were since googling at&t bands only shows info on the ones used for calls and LTE.
Band 30 is newer spectrum they purchased last year, it's mainly for high congestion areas and hasn't been deployed in many places yet. Not sure how significant it will be in the near future, I do know that the iPhone SE was released without it, so it can't be that important, yet. Band 29 I have no idea, haven't researched it yet. I don't think I'd be afraid of this model in terms of reception, but you lose a lot of stuff like wifi calling, VOLTE, Samsung pay, etc.
Anyone know if the bootloader is unlocked? I'd be willing to lose the AT&T stuff if I could root it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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He man, how've you been? :good:
I ordered a Note 7 Duos N930FD . It scheduled to be delivered tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.....
Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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I just pre-ordered mine from Best Buy on AT&T. I am planning to to payout the full cost immediately after getting the device. And currently I don't have any contract with AT&T. Will I be able to unlock my Note 7 easily? Will it affect my warranty in any manner?
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Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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No Wi-Fi calling. Samsung pay is not included in the default apps. I'll play more tomorrow to see.
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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So far so good today. I drive a lot for work and signal / lte has been working fine. Basically haven't noticed anything wrong with data/signal so that's a good thing. I haven't cancelled my pre order with ATT so I might compare it to that one when it comes in.
Tonight I can run speed test side by side with my wife's iPhone tonight at home. Not really sure if that would help, but I can do it.

Buy International Version, T-Mobile or AT&T Version? (AT&T Member, Paying Full Price)

Buy International Version, T-Mobile or AT&T Version? (AT&T Member, Paying Full Price)
I'm going to be purchasing the Galaxy Note 7 outright, cash, no payment plan. My ATT Galaxy S4 has a locked bootloader to this very day and it sucks. This is the first time I'll be purchasing the phone outright, so I know I have more options. Here is what I want to know:
1. Can I purchase the T-Mobile Version of the phone and use my ATT sim without any issues? Don't they use the same frequencies and GSM network?
2. If I purchase the international version, does it support all carriers, or only those on the GSM network? I will be traveling to Europe about once a year, so the international version of this phone seems like the best way to go. I just don't know the differences are between it and the ATT version. I know once a phone is unlocked, it can be used internationally, like my Galaxy S4, so maybe the international version isn't that important? (Where can I buy the international version?)
3. Is it best to still buy the ATT version so I can use all of their technologies, such as HD voice and wifi-calling? I don't plan on leaving ATT anytime soon. I also heard that the Snapdragon processor is actually better this time around and the GPU as well if you go with the US version of the phone.
Here is how I plan to use this phone. I'm willing to wait for root, but at some point I want it.
1. I plan to root it and use xposed framework.
2. I want to be able to use samsung pay
3. I want to use the fingerprint reader and the iris scanner.
4. I eventually want to flash ROMs when they stop supporting the phone.
5. I must be able to use mobile hotspot no matter what.
So what do you all recommend I do? Thank you very much for your valuable input!
DuffmasterFresh said:
I'm going to be purchasing the Galaxy Note 7 outright, cash, no payment plan. My ATT Galaxy S4 has a locked bootloader to this very day and it sucks. This is the first time I'll be purchasing the phone outright, so I know I have more options. Here is what I want to know:
1. Can I purchase the T-Mobile Version of the phone and use my ATT sim without any issues? Don't they use the same frequencies and GSM network?
2. If I purchase the international version, does it support all carriers, or only those on the GSM network? I will be traveling to Europe about once a year, so the international version of this phone seems like the best way to go. I just don't know the differences are between it and the ATT version. I know once a phone is unlocked, it can be used internationally, like my Galaxy S4, so maybe the international version isn't that important?
3. Is it best to still buy the ATT version so I can use all of their technologies, such as HD voice and wifi-calling? I don't plan on leaving ATT anytime soon. I also heard that the Snapdragon processor is actually better this time around and the GPU as well if you go with the US version of the phone.
Here is how I plan to use this phone. I'm willing to wait for root, but at some point I want it.
1. I plan to root it and use xposed framework.
2. I want to be able to use samsung pay
3. I want to use the fingerprint reader and the iris scanner.
4. I eventually want to flash ROMs when they stop supporting the phone.
5. I must be able to use mobile hotspot no matter what.
So what do you all recommend I do? Thank you very much for your valuable input!
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T-mobile has many compatible bands, to be very specific
T-Mobile
Quad Band GSM; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850); LTE: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17
AT&T
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Wi-Fi connectivity 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/r
So the T-Mobile variant is missing 2 LTE bands that AT&T uses (20 and 29).
The international version will be able to use root, custom firmwares, unlocked bootloaders, and whatever else you want. the att version will be so locked down you'll see a 20k bounty begging someone to unlock it, and it may or may not ever get unlocked. I'm still holding my breath for someone to unlock my att note 4. (and that's unlock for root, we wouldn't even dream of an unlocked bootloader..)
any att features will be bundled with the first wave of custom roms, so don't worry.
the international model offers more color options, faster octacore processor, better battery life, far superior sound quality thanks to the dedicated DAC, and will support �� dolphin emulator, which t-mobile and att will not.
the international version will be the best phone no debate. the only reasons to consider getting the t-mobile or att one is convince of getting it in store, plus best buys sd card bundle.
I'm getting the sexy international gold one myself, uncompromised power, battery life, gonna sound great on my new speakers, finally be able to play some super smash on my phone again, just haven't found a place to buy it from yet.
I encourage more people to chime in on this, good luck!
You should check this link to ensure phone model works on whichever carrier before buying:
http://willmyphonework.net/
I wish I'd known about this link years ago!
So, no sd card bundle with international version? That sd card is the only reason it might be worth paying $900 for a phone...
Where can I get the International version of the phone? I don't need Dual Sims. I looked on Amazon and they only list the Dual Sim model.
I think what I need is the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 N930F. B&H Photo Video has it for preorder with a limited B&H warranty. Does the International Model still have a 1-year warranty from Samsung?
soraxd said:
T-mobile has many compatible bands, to be very specific
T-Mobile
Quad Band GSM; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850); LTE: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17
AT&T
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Wi-Fi connectivity 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/r
So the T-Mobile variant is missing 2 LTE bands that AT&T uses (20 and 29).
The international version and the t-mobile versions will both be able to use root, custom firmwares, unlocked bootloaders, and whatever else you want. the att version will be so locked down you'll see a 20k bounty begging someone to unlock it, and it may or may not ever get unlocked. I'm still holding my breath for someone to unlock my att note 4. (and that's unlock for root, we wouldn't even dream of an unlocked bootloader..)
so getting from att is the only wrong choice. any att features will be bundled with the first wave of custom roms, so don't worry.
the international model offers more color options, faster octacore processor, better battery life, far superior sound quality thanks to the dedicated DAC, and will support �� dolphin emulator, which t-mobile and att will not.
the international version will be the best phone no debate. the only reasons to consider getting the t-mobile one is convince of getting it in store, plus best buys sd card bundle.
I'm getting the sexy international gold one myself, uncompromised power, battery life, gonna sound great on my new speakers, finally be able to play some super smash on my phone again, just haven't found a place to buy it from yet.
I encourage more people to chime in on this, good luck!
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Do you have proof? The T-Mobile S7 shipped with a locked bootloader. All U.S. S7's did. So the international model is the only viable option for modders.
Does anyone know if the international version will work on Straight Talk? I currently have a ATT note 4 on my Straight Talk Sim? I just want to make sure I don't loose out on any features.
Im looking to buy this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Samsung...hash=item3d21d343c5:m:mv6a3OIYs0V1HNlXutJQbkA

SM-G950UZSATMB - What!? Bootloader unlocked?

I see this BOGO offer direct on Samsung's website for Galaxy S8's. In the past, all Galaxy S phones were SM-G920T (T for T-Mobile) SM-G920V (V for Verizon, etc) and then Best Buy sold that piece of crap SIM unlocked SM-G920U that was bootloader LOCKED and couldn't do anything with it.
I'm trying to find out here if the Bootloader is locked on any variant of the Snapdragon 835 S8's, and which version I should get. T-Mobile has the same BOGO offer on the S8 in the form of a rebate as well, but I can't confirm anywhere the specific model number. I'm so jaded by the fact that T-Mobile left the bootloader locked on their S7 that I can't imagine them leaving it unlocked.
The G6 is also BOGO right now as well, but I don't know if that bootloader is unlocked like all my previous LG phones from T-Mo we're.
I'd really appreciate any kind of confirmed answers you might have!
Cheers!
joesee said:
I see this BOGO offer direct on Samsung's website for Galaxy S8's. In the past, all Galaxy S phones were SM-G920T (T for T-Mobile) SM-G920V (V for Verizon, etc) and then Best Buy sold that piece of crap SIM unlocked SM-G920U that was bootloader LOCKED and couldn't do anything with it.
I'm trying to find out here if the Bootloader is locked on any variant of the Snapdragon 835 S8's, and which version I should get. T-Mobile has the same BOGO offer on the S8 in the form of a rebate as well, but I can't confirm anywhere the specific model number. I'm so jaded by the fact that T-Mobile left the bootloader locked on their S7 that I can't imagine them leaving it unlocked.
The G6 is also BOGO right now as well, but I don't know if that bootloader is unlocked like all my previous LG phones from T-Mo we're.
I'd really appreciate any kind of confirmed answers you might have!
Cheers!
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All the carriers have "U" devices in the U.S. this year. The SIM you initialize the phone with is what carrier's features are added. A "U" from Samsung apparently doesn't take on the carrier whose SIM is used features and remains virgin. So "U" could be considered "universal" or "U.S." It's still a S-835 device which means "U" definitely doesn't mean unlocked bootloader.
I'm not an expert at all but I really doubt that ANY Samsung bootloader will ever be unlocked again. Pretty much after 2013 all bootloaders were locked [AFAIK] at least for the Galaxy series. I really like Samsung devices but my Galaxy Tab S (late 2014) isn't even going to get the Nougat upgrade - this actually pisses me off greatly.
When you see 'unlocked' concerning a phone/device it means CARRIER unlocked, not the bootloader. The 'unlocked' means that you can use it with any carrier that the device supports - so just about most of the carriers/providers in the entire world. Still not sure about this concerning CDMA (Verizon/Sprint) as some things may not work (different bands). Tried using GSM phones on CDMA a few years back and wasn't able to use 4G/LTE & also MMS.
Good luck.
EDIT:
Was typing this as BarryH_GEG replied to your question. Yes the letter following the model corresponds to the various carriers (Verizon, Cricket, Sprint, etc) and are also different for international versions.
EDIT2:
On another note I own a Galaxy S7 Edge (international) that has the Exynos processor that is unlocked. At the same time this is the only device I've never rooted because it works so well for me, no carrier bloatware. Also the only device I've ever purchased without a removable battery. Until the latest updates I was able to go 2 days without charging (not anymore unfortunately). The international S8/S8+ also use the Exynos processor so you might consider this option. However the cost will be high as it was for me when I purchased my GS7edge as you'll need to purchase it directly without any US discounts or such. I paid out just over $700 for my GS7edge directly, though at the same time my AT&T bill is much lower because of this.
I've researched the GS8+ international and it's looking to be around $800. Compared to trading in my GS7edge international for an unlocked US version I can get for $375 (with trade-in) if I do this within a month or so... I can probably get $400 for my GS7edge (since it's international) but how long will this take? If I only get $300 for it for a quick sale I'll still spend $500 for the new 8+ so is this worth it?
Only stating these issues so that you understand my thinking concerning an unlocked bootloader. These are [mostly, still SS stuff] bloatware free, have incredible power, etc, etc. I miss rooting my device but is it really worth it for the cost? I really want the international/Exynos S8+ but still not sure.
Let me know your thoughts, later.

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