I currently own a T-mo Galaxy S6 and am really disappointed with the lack of ROMs available for it. Part of the reason - based on my understanding so far - is that because the S6 has an Exynos chip, custom AOSP ROMs are not possible because Samsung hasn't released the source (or something like that ). I'm considering getting an S7 Edge - since it's on a Qualcomm processor, can we reasonably expect to see AOSP-based custom ROMs for it? I would consider upgrading to an S7 if it meant access to a vanilla, touchWiz-free, marshmallow ROM.
Within a couple months
It shouldn't take too long..
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Within a couple months
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So the question is 'when', and not 'if'? That's good news in itself! Follow-up question: Is there a lot of variation between the carrier versions of the S7 that would hinder cross-development?
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How can you be disappointed with the lack of ROMs for a phone that hasn't even been officially released yet?
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Maybe you misread the OP - I meant the lack of ROMs for the t-mo s6, not s7.
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Maybe you misread the OP - I meant the lack of ROMs for the s6, not s7.
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I did! Sorry about that!!! I guess my edit wasn't fast enough, lol.
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I did! Sorry about that!!! I guess my edit wasn't fast enough, lol.
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Hah, no worries
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So the question is 'when', and not 'if'? That's good news in itself! Follow-up question: Is there a lot of variation between the carrier versions of the S7 that would hinder cross-development?
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I believe the tmo varient has unlockable bootloaders which means easier dev support. But the international versions should reveieve the most support since tmo users are a minority compared to the rest of the globe. The Verizon version would probably be the worst.
tiskewlio said:
I believe the tmo varient has unlockable bootloaders which means easier dev support. But the international versions should reveieve the most support since tmo users are a minority compared to the rest of the globe. The Verizon version would probably be the worst.
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Good point. Although it will be interesting to see what sort of dev support the non-US versions of the s7 will have since they are all on the exynos chip.
The tmo version will probably have more dev support than the rest of the world IMO. Of all the US carriers, they are the most open and almost always have the most support. Global has exynos so no aosp for them unless the code their hardware drivers from scratch(qcom provides these for us) the only thing I've noticed is that Samsung uses their own touch controller in the s7 unlike any phone before, which I don't think will be an issue, as that's probably just in the kernel which is open source anyways. Aside from that I think it's mostly just getting a device tree up and running to port aosp over which shouldn't be too difficult. Then again I've only ever compiled aosp on a Nexus so I may be wrong here.
Touch wiz improved a lot since the first galaxy note. And honestly all you need is root and luckypatcher to control your phone better plus super user
I'm working on pulling device trees in for cm. Shouldn't take too long
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I'm working on pulling device trees in for cm. Shouldn't take too long
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Nice. Samsung told me they would release kernel source when the phone actually releases, so hopefully we get that tomorrow.
And now we have hit an obstacle...
Was too excited with my S7 purchase on Friday to notice the bad news about the locked snapdragon bootloader. W.T.F. Why is Samsung doing this ...
So glad I have a Nexus 6P for updates/roms. Samsung is always giving users a raw deal when it comes to their flagships I feel like
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Man, in retrospect, this thread seems so naively optimistic lol
This is why Google should have never canceled the GPE. Although instead of only selling phones which were expensive and no payment/contract plans offered. They should release official Roms which could be flashed via stock recover for select oems like Samsung. Also Google could sell OEM phones for fi.
I would read this thread for the latest findings. It may be quite some time before we get root, if ever (much less TWRP). It looks like this device is locked down really tight.
Plus you want AOSP theres the nexus for ya. Sorry it doesn't have the slick looks and great features, but youll have your aosp. Now people cant excuse because they wanted a bigger phone. Every phone is big now. Why choose Samsung only to take away ABSOLUTELY EVERY FEATURE except cosmetic?
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At least this way people will be stuck with TW. As mean as that sounds you DID buy it from samsung not google m8
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It seems like plenty more attention is being given to the international version.
Phone hasn't even been out 2 weeks! Give it time.
Not if they are with Sprint, ATT, Tmobile, US Cellular, Rogers, or Verizon..... I gotta say, I am amazed at how fast development is moving on this phone. Two weeks, and we have cm10, cm9, MIUI is right around the corner. What more do you want?
We have plenty of great developers already and more are on the way. We have Jelly Bean within a month of release and it's good enough to be a daily driver. Be grateful.
Phone hasn't been out very long yet. Already have root, ROM's.... Kernels. Also have 2 of the best Devs... Ktoonsez and Task
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It seems like plenty more attention is being given to the international version.
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The international version covers 30+ countries, of course it is going to have more developers than the two countries that use this version (Canada & US).
The positive side is that they get to lay all the ground work, and eventually that work gets ported or brought over to ours.
All in due time.
nope
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Less than two weeks in and we've got a nearly rock-solid CM10 preview build available. Been using it for a few days and it's awesome. I sure don't feel ignored.
I mean, sure, the Verizon version is gonna get shafted, but everybody else seems like it's all systems go.
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Also have 2 of the best Devs... Ktoonsez and Task
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Dont forget Cyanogen
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The better question is what do you want that isn't out already?
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It seems like plenty more attention is being given to the international version.
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Yes, that's why more aspiring devs have to step up. /endsarcasm
|Trolling with a smile|
Jamin13 said:
Yes, that's why more aspiring devs have to step up. /endsarcasm
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lol, I know.....its gonna be interesting seeing what this cyanogen guy can do, and that noobnl guy, along with all the other freaking awesome devs on this phone.
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I mean, sure, the Verizon version is gonna get shafted, but everybody else seems like it's all systems go.
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to the insanely intricate R&D that folks like AdamOutlier have been conducting.
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to the insanely intricate R&D that folks like AdamOutlier have been conducting.
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I was concerned about the development before changing to the North American variant but have to say that I have been impressed. I have a feeling that down the road, there may be devs who are able to port some of the SGS3 international Roms to ours as well. Its been out barely a month and even less in other areas (Canadian launch was June 27th), but I have to say that things look very promising thus far. The CM10 preview was very much a nice surprise too
I would not use "left behind" in any way to describe the US variants of the Galaxy S3, with the exception of maybe our carriers taking forever to get official updates from Samsung out to us.
All of the four major US variants currently have CM9 builds. The Verizon variant doesn't appear on get.cm, but official repos for it exist, and with the progress of the auto-kexec exploit and all the work CVPCS has been putting in on streamlining it, I can definitely see the possibility of it getting official support.
If you're referring to tons of independent developer ROMs not popping up, all I can say is that the phone has only been out a couple of weeks. I can't speak for the other variants, but the Verizon version has had a couple stock-based ROMs, and I already mentioned the AOSP-variants like CM9.
So, no, I don't think we're left behind in any way.
The NA Variants (US Mostly) are officially being supported by Cyanogen, do you really need any other ROM, AOKP is already out as well, those really are the only 2 roms you should need.
Uuuuh? Lack of developers? Are you joking?
We already have official CM10 with almost everything working... There are so many touchwiz-based ROMs already out. (Most touchwiz based ROMs aren't "real" works of development. I mean no disrespect to developers and I said MOST, not all.)
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Uuuuh? Lack of developers? Are you joking?
We already have official CM10 with almost everything working... There are so many touchwiz-based ROMs already out. (Most touchwiz based ROMs aren't "real" works of development. I mean no disrespect to developers and I said MOST, not all.)
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Says the guy with a giant "BLAZER ROM" signature. Lol! JK! I think we'll be fine. Unfortunately the fragmentation between carriers when sharing the same device leeds developers to spread around based on their allegiance to whatever carrier.
Personally, I think Sprint's development is one of the strongest (doesn't compare to the int'l version though).
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We have plenty of great developers already and more are on the way. We have Jelly Bean within a month of release and it's good enough to be a daily driver. Be grateful.
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Who released a JellyBean ROM ? Only CM10 ?
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International will always have more development. This phone is young still
All I have to say is wow -_-
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This is the unofficial thread to find the list of developers for the Samsung Galaxy Note II.
If you are a developer and or ROM maker/cooker would like to confirm that you are going to dev on this device please send me a pm, and I will add you to the list. In past experiences these types of threads have shown to be very helpful to build dev support for a device, and also to help people decide on a device.
What, actually is the list for?
Basically its for people and devs to see all the dev support the device will have. This sometimes is the deciding factor for getting a phone. If there's huge dev support more people will come. This makes it easier for people to find information on what devs will be supporting the note 2.
To pm me and get added to the list Click Here.
Let's make this Galaxy Note II community awesome!
Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5.m3dd0g
6.Crash 1976
7.g.lewarne
8.toxicthunder
9.awesomehacker
10.KashaMalaga
11.-Viperboy-
12.lennyuk
13.Dexter_nlb
14.DocRambone
15.imilka
16.f3w1n
17.kristofpetho
18.mike1986.
19.Stavr0s91i
20.wanam
21.xator91
22.Beukhof1
23.ptmr3
24.Anas M.I
25.cpu999
26.AndreiLux
27.Chainfire
28.Patrics83
29.Chenglu
30.bigbiff
Hi,
Thanks for starting this thread. I just want to ask "Do you think there be a lot of development for this phone?" Particularly for Note II, in general for future Samsung phones.
I just finished watching this video here or here and I just heard about some developers leaving Samsung altogether? Samsung locking bootloaders? Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. I didn't check out the i717 thread but I assume they are fair.
I'm not really experienced in rooting but I found Samsung Note to be fairly straight forward. I recently rooted an HTC Amaze 4G and the numerous steps plus the lack of info made me never to buy an HTC phone (even if I do like the HTC One X, my friend has the North American version and he said development is low there).
This is one reason why I'm holding out on the Note II until Feb 2013, maybe even Sept 2013 (in case Note 3) comes out because I want to see how the development plays out.
I know the phone just came out, but I assumed International Note development should be all hunky dory but I never know. Makes me not want to switch devices. I had an Int'l Galaxy S2 previously and development for that is great!
I hear Sony development is awesome. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
What do you guys think?
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Confirmed Developers
1.Utacka
2.thering1975
3.DakiX
4.::indie::
5........
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thanks leafsacc, I wasn't aware of this until now. I'm still not sure what's going on but I assumed there would be a way around a bootloader, as coders always find a way :highfive:
but reading the below, says it could have been verizon which was the cause of the bootloader, not samsung. so why is xdadevtv directing his video to samsung? is it because no open source was given for the s3? has it still not been released? will it be? anyone care to sum it up for some of us who aren't in the know? :>
Based on Samsung’s track record of always shipping devices with unlocked bootloaders, we can all safely deduce that Verizon is the one to blame here.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/verizon-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-unlocked/
For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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For starters cm will not support n7100 if samsung dont change their ways. atleast the current dev team in cm will not support newer samsung exynos devices. i9300/n80xx was the last. Only way to get n7100 supported is if samsung cooperate or a new dev join cm dev team.
Without cm support i cannot do my paranoidandroid from source as I do with n7000. Time will tell if some new dev join cm samsung team or samsung get their act together. Dont look good though.
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Whoops not good news :crying: i need also sources...
Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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You still need one of the dev maintaining exynos devices to buy n7100 and then maintaining it... we can hope for someone to step up but its their freetime and money. Entropy512 told me he would be buying at&t version which is nearly identical if samsung would change their behavior. All we can do for now is to sit and wait...
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Hi guys, my ROM is finally finished and now uploaded at 89%.
I need a tester! My Note 2 has not arrived yet
Please write via PM.
You forgot chainfire..
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This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
For everyone woundering about my sources here is a statement from Entropy512:
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Not likely to happen. If CM comes to the Note 2, it will only be if a new maintainer steps up.
Most of the current Exynos maintainer team (myself, espenfjo, codeworkx) and others have all decided that our current devices will be our last non-Nexus Exynos devices. I'm not sure about xplodwild, but I have a feeling he's highly unlikely to take up another Haxxinos with the rest of us gone and given his prior experiences with it.
If Samsung changes their attitude towards developers, this might change, but their attitude lately (zero documentation, zero platform source code, a trend towards bootloader locking - Only the Verizon S3 has a locked bootloader now, but Samsung has had the infrastructure in place since the S2 and they are constantly adding more checks) has led to the current Exynos maintainer team deciding that enough is enough. I don't think any of us are going to do anything to make Samsung's Exynos devices more attractive to any particular market segment until they provide assistance (in the form of technical documentation and source code) in return. I don't know about the others, but if they offer me a free device I'll say no - I refuse to participate in a PR stunt like the I9100 donations were.
Pretty much the only way I'll go back is if I see reference platform source that is up to the same standards as CAF and omapzoom, or they actually start providing real documentation and source code for the devices I'm currently working with.
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Thanks entwicklun,
I Googled "verizon locked bootloader samsung galaxy note" and from what I understand that it was Verizon's request to lock the bootloader. Not sure what I would do if I was Samsung but my guess is, if it helps sell more phones on Verizon then lock the boot loader. Money talks, right?
But then I'm hearing news about Samsung not giving developers this and that, just like the example below.
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Well I don't get it because it is sharing most of the hardware with S3 so the stuff should be at least ported easily.
Now I understand Samsung being a complete ass with their proprietary drivers
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And I also need a phone that will have Paranoid Android (and the odd CM here and there), but it must also a 5" phablet. I guess there is nothing wrong with my current Note, but again by searching on Google there's a possibility that the "next big thing" might be the HTC Google Nexus X+. If that has an expansion card slot, that's it, I'm not getting the Note 2.
E90 Commie said:
This is a great thread. I hope more chefs will chime in.
I am considering a Note II but it is absolutely vital that CM is developed for it, together with Paranoid Android. Especially since Key Lime Pie (CM11?) is be around the corner.
I also think it is important with AOSP/AOKP development for it.
So I hope the issue will be sorted during this month. If not, I am afraid that I have to consider a different game plan.
Buying a device without proper developer support is a no go for me.
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Thanks for all the work the dev's put in. I'm just saying, my next phone is where the developers are. Samsung doesn't own us. :laugh:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
Crash Rom will be here to
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cheers, I'm sure those browsing like me will know what's up now.
I've already ordered my note 2, but I would fully support the dev crew. even if that means selling my note 2 at a loss and buying what's being developed, pending though. I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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Samsung getting too big for their own ego?
I currently own the Int'l N7000 and I found the development to be good for what I want. But then, I think I'll just go get a Nexus for ease of development (but the screen is so small!)
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g.lewarne said:
I'll be here when I get my note2 in December
For those that don't know, TW ROM, aokp and multi booting kernel (or at least 2 sesperate kernels )
Myself and utaka could probably come up with a aosp supporting kernel for the device if official CM does not materialise.
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Are noobs like me allowed to jump in please?
Utacka sir is so kind to us all in his PA thread
Anyways, I think devving for this device would initially start with kanged TW based ROMs. With CM wary on supporting the device, it does seem a bit dark but hey, I am sure there are others to step up.
But then again, you can never be too sure.
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BTW, next nexus device is perhaps open to all OEMs.
Might be an Optimus from LG but from what I've read other manufactures are welcome to jump in and join the party.
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I am the same, an expansion card slot is a big plus.
development support is also a big factor.
I would flash aokp right now but i'm so scared of emmc bug (which I assume will not be in the Note 2 just like it did not exist in GB ROM Notes. But who knows if "Key Lime Pie/Kandy Kane" might have a similar brick bug) on ICS kangs that I just stay far, far, away.
My ultimate fav is CassiesXtraLite so it's good to see thering1975 on the list.
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I do like phablets and if the x+ doesn't have an exspansion slot then I probably wouldn't buy it.
I also hope aokp devs on the note 2. I certainly love their ROMS
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I might bring VillainRom to the Note2, but only if/when we can get our OTA update/optional mods app up and running to a high enough standard.
Would be nice to know for wich model is going to work each developer.
- f3w1n -
Who will be our CM dev?
Update: Looks like w00tc0d3 will make CM for the Qualcomm version.
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Don't worry... someone will. This device will be to popular not to have CM.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Generally there were 3 developers who maintained samsung devices
1. Codeworkx
2. Entropy512 and
3. Xplodwild
Of them the first 2 have vowed to never waste their time on exynos
Xplodwild is still there but how much time he will have I have no idea..
It will be very difficult to get competent and experienced developers so quickly ..
So initially S4 will definitely be behind in AOSP development IMO
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The way Samsung is treating the dev's & developer community I doubt anyone from CM team will be left with Samsung devices in near future :/
If you want CM or AOSP don't buy Samsung's devices. They never have offered any real support toward third party development. Ask Entropy512 and he'll tell you the whole story. They promise something but never live up to their words. I'm sure some people here still remember the Exynos saga.
Re: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
There's always the North American versions.
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AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
Don't worry, S4 cones with Snapdragon 600, Exynos will be released late summer. I think dev support will be great!
I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
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I'm pretty sure development support for this device will be poppin! The S3 and the S2 didn't disappoint.
Just wanna know who our CM developer will be.
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I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4. Maybe new will come, but will they as good as them?
CM is a community-project so devs are not forced to develop for a device even if it's popular if they want they do. I think S4 will be far behind other AOSP devices. Just take a look at S2 and S3. If you want CM don't for Samsung, go Sony or Nexus. Don't be disappointed about CM on S4 (if it will be released?), you have been warned.
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I wouldn't be sure of that. The most experienced devs for Exynos are sick of it and won't support S4.
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
Same kind of statement from Gokhan Moral http://www.gokhanmoral.com/
AW: codeworkx will no longer make CM for the S4.
I'm using touchwiz based Roms since I got a S2.
My phones always work, they never let me down.
I see no reason to install a AOSP rom.
On a Nexus 7 AOSP ROMs are stock+extras.
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Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
Livebyte said:
Developing for a Samsung device is a nightmare.
End of story.
I warn any of you who expects a thriving developing community here to look elsewhere.
A popular device like this is no use if Samsung won't even support the devs here.
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I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
Mittaa said:
I really need removable battery and extra SD ... so where to go?
HTC One or Sony Experia Z
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
Well for the Qualcomm devices (AKA US versions) I would expect Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
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Well for the Qualcom devices (AKA US versions) I would expect the Cyanogen himself to continue to support it as he has for the S3 (US versions)
That being said... I have little to no faith that VZW will have an ulocked bootloader so I am personally not even going to look at this device until that issue is taken care of..
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It's probably true for the Qualcomm versions.
You US people always get the good stuff!
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Sarcasm, interesting.
LG Optimus G Pro.
A Snapdragon 600 device.
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Just seen review from LG Optimus G Pro. Nice phone, good battery ... locked bootloader, bad bad bad support when it comes to upgrades and bug fixes (worse than Samsung!). And to be honest I hate iWhore(ish) glass back and front ... always use case anyway.
Liked the idea of Sony Experia Z water resistance ... but can't pull the battery and just so glossy, glassy
Damned I think I'ill stick with my old SGS2 ... best phone for me ever :good:
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Viva la Galaxy brother! SGS2 all the way! :good:
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Don't forget that for the majority it will be a Qualcomm device, not Exynos....
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And what make you think that the US version will be sold more than the international version which is available world wide?
Is there any chance to get any official support from CM rom for Galaxy S7 edge exynos version.
Please really need to know.
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Don't think so...
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No chance. Closed source SOC. Small possibility of an unofficial one being released that will boot and be usable but you have two hopes of it ever being stable.
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Just to ask, why would you buy a Samsung phone based on an Exynos chip set if CM is important to you? Possibly the worst phone SOC you can buy under those circumstances.
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No chance. Closed source SOC. Small possibility of an unofficial one being released that will boot and be usable but you have two hopes of it ever being stable.
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Just to ask, why would you buy a Samsung phone based on an Exynos chip set if CM is important to you? Possibly the worst phone SOC you can buy under those circumstances.
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I strongly agree with your point but since the s7 edge has been sold in the 30 million mark i thought too myself there has to be a cm for this phone since its so freakin awesome! I traded my nexus 4 to the nexus 5 than moved to 1+1 then for the almighty nexus 6 (yes im a flashaholic) but eventually for some stupid reason i sold it and bought the s7 edge because of the better screen camera and popularity and now im thinking of selling because it has no aosp or cm roms..... i mean seriously this phone is a beast of a beast but slowly slowly im starting to realize maybe having so much custom roms is a better choice.... Thats my opinion tbh
Unfortunately only Exynos 4 family have true open libraries, also 5 series has some libraries but i've never heard about 7 and 8 series have any libraries, and without Samsung sources, it's somethink like impossible. Read further here:
http://www.xda-developers.com/the-r...ng-how-and-why-tinkerers-used-samsung-phones/
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
Samsung or most oem's don't give a **** about open-source that why you get skins on phones and not stock they want you running their services etc if you care for development I suggest getting a Nexus/Pixel only
Thanks every one :'(
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But why samsung don't realease the source of exynos???
It's a problem for samsung?
I remember when i bought the Galaxy S3..OMG so many roms?
But now...When samsung want to abandon the S7..we don't have rom custom for solve the problem
We want it but seems impossible...
May be samsung wants their consumer to be stock or something. what ever it is, so disappointed :'-(
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Maybe we should make a HUGE petition to samsung to release more source code? 99.9% it won't work but well..
It's being worked on for the snapdragon variant of the S7E. Dont think anything is being done for the Enyxos version.
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It's being worked on for the snapdragon variant of the S7E. Dont think anything is being done for the Enyxos version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
Wanted to see how CM would hold up on a Dual Boot now its possible on the S7
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Is there any chance to get any official support from CM rom for Galaxy S7 edge exynos version.
Please really need to know.
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Nope.
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Even if a usable CM build did appear, the use of it would take away a lot of the features that make this a premium phone in the first place. For a start I can guarantee you the camera quality will be dire in comparison. And on a phone with a camera this good, that would be ridiculous. Its one of the main reasons I bought it. Then you will lose the Edge features.
Nah, I'll stick with Touchwiz thanks. Besides, it's far better than it used to be, it's no longer a chore.
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Even if a usable CM build did appear, the use of it would take away a lot of the features that make this a premium phone in the first place. For a start I can guarantee you the camera quality will be dire in comparison. And on a phone with a camera this good, that would be ridiculous. Its one of the main reasons I bought it. Then you will lose the Edge features.
Nah, I'll stick with Touchwiz thanks. Besides, it's far better than it used to be, it's no longer a chore.
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You use the edge features!!?? I didn't know somebody used that, why will the camera quality will be compromised? is it the hardware? or you wanna say it's the software of S7E who deliver beautiful pictures. I believe a beautyful cool UI is a perfect match for this awesome device.[emoji56]
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dave7802 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/cyanogenmod-13-galaxy-s7-edge-t3414697
Wanted to see how CM would hold up on a Dual Boot now its possible on the S7
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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But, I have a Exynos device
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You use the edge features!!?? I didn't know somebody used that, why will the camera quality will be compromised? is it the hardware? or you wanna say it's the software of S7E who deliver beautiful pictures. I believe a beautyful cool UI is a perfect match for this awesome device.[emoji56]
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Yes, I do. And the camera is compromised because Samsung's TW framework is required for it to work optimally. You will get basic image quality and features under CM but it won't be anything like approaching what you get under TW and the stock camera app. This was the case under older phones like the Note 3 (I used Temasek's CM builds on that) and it will be even more prevelant on superior camera hardware like this. The gains CM/AOSP offer simply don't outweigh the disadvantages for me.
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Shame about the closed source for the samsung SOC. I think this is where the qualcomm soc variant lucked out a bit.
There is some work being done at the moment to get it to boot correctly on the qualcomm side, but everything else is pretty much there. Once that problem is solved, its pretty easy since a lot of qualcomm based devices can already run cm13/14 so porting it to the s7/s7e qualcomm would be relatively easy of a task.
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It is, i have been waiting for Dual Patcher to bring S7 Edge support.
I was going to consider having a play with CM build as an additional ROM.
I enjoyed it on my Note 3 switching between the two, So i may have a dip in the source thats already been worked on next early next year
So, sad news, spoke to a few devs,RR and Havoc, both said they currently have no plans in the near future to support the 8 pro because it's too expensive to buy
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So, sad news, spoke to a few devs,RR and Havoc, both said they currently have no plans in the near future to support the 8 pro because it's too expensive to buy
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They don't need to, if they get the 8 it'll run more than likely.
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They don't need to, if they get the 8 it'll run more than likely.
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Maybe, but so far, development is sad and depressing. Carbon ROM, Lineage and PA Roms are hit and miss on installs and twrp doesn't fully work so devs are staying away
Seriously tho, what happened to current development? Like, the only Roms being updated is Paranoid Android and that's basically just stock aosp with no features. Lineage and carbon hasn't done anything recently and it looks like twrp has been abandoned. Guess I wasted money buying the 8 pro. Anyone want to buy mine for $750?
Yes 7 pro development was way too fast compared to 8 but I'm not loosing hope, good things will come sooner or later, cheers.
Maybe because buying an almost 1000$ phone and then ruining things like camera quality and have bugs all over the software by flashing a custom rom is a weird thing to do, especially if it's a daily driver and it's too expensive to buy it as an development device.
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Maybe because buying an almost 1000$ phone and then ruining things like camera quality and have bugs all over the software by flashing a custom rom is a weird thing to do, especially if it's a daily driver and it's too expensive to buy it as an development device.
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Yet Samsung devices have root, twrp, custom roms, etc....so you're dumb
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Yet Samsung devices have root, twrp, custom roms, etc....so you're dumb
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Samsung phones phones sucks in terms of speed and one UI ... especially with exynos chip..that's why.. second of course many people have a Samsung so more people use ..more people do development
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Seriously tho, what happened to current development? Like, the only Roms being updated is Paranoid Android and that's basically just stock aosp with no features. Lineage and carbon hasn't done anything recently and it looks like twrp has been abandoned. Guess I wasted money buying the 8 pro. Anyone want to buy mine for $750?
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"Paranoid Android and that's basically just stock aosp with no features."
Yeah no
Also feel free to build a ROM or contribute to TWRP yourself.
You could have done research on both of these before buying the phone.
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Samsung phones phones sucks in terms of speed and one UI ... especially with exynos chip..that's why.. second of course many people have a Samsung so more people use ..more people do development
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To be fair the s20 plus even with exynos performs very well and is smooth. You don't need root for it to be like and there apps now without root to disable Bixby etc.
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Maybe, but so far, development is sad and depressing. Carbon ROM, Lineage and PA Roms are hit and miss on installs and twrp doesn't fully work so devs are staying away
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? Are you serious???
Lmfao, buy a HUAWEI, see how you do..
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Yet Samsung devices have root, twrp, custom roms, etc....so you're dumb
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And an efuse chip that voids your warranty. Can't say the same for OnePlus.
Also the non US versions of all Samsung devices use Exynos chipsets, which means they are slow and overheat.
But they are useless in the US - do not have critical network frequencies. That is only reason I went to OnePlus 8 pro. Otherwise would not have touched it.
So was talking going to RR Dev and said he wants to build for us but no aosp sources available.