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I bought mine Vario II (with CoPilot) just 8 days ago, so I've enjoyed it quite a lot for the past days
yet .. ~30 hours ago I found out that the touch screen was not responding at all .. well restart did not help, getting the battery out and putting it back again didn't help too ... I tried to do EVERYTHING with the thing ... starting with restoring factory settings (all the data! ) , ending with browsing the forums for common failures ...
Finally I ended up with the very start page where the Vario II asks for tapping the screen (irony huh ?) to start setting it up ..
Since I was not able to make it work again (the whole thing seemed to be working fine ... just the touch screen ... ) so I brought it to the local T-Mobile shop today in the morning.. guess what, the guy at the shop just removed the battery and put it back again (I've done that XXX times during the night) AND IT STARTED WORKING again ... I couldn't understand anything there, felt really lame
anyway after I've left the shop and used it for quite a bit it started again .. now I've kind of figured it out .. when I'm using the device actively (the temp raises) and it starts at the top right corner of the screen .. the touch screen just flickers there and then after a minute or so it doesn't respond at all any more .. if I just put it away and don't use it - the screen responds again after some time ...
NOW finally the question is: has anyone had any problems with Vario II like I do? I ought to think that it is a somewhat faulty device that I've got (it hasn't been physically damaged)
PS the touch-screen gets stagnant faster with bigger programs (CoPilot, Skype, etc...) and it takes some time to get stuck with just using the phone...
btw I've put a temperature thingy in the device - it shows that the battery temp is at 42 C . Isn't that a bit too much ?
yeah and how do I figure out what version it is ? I mean the S/N that is mentioned here ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems )
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wundis said:
anyway after I've left the shop and used it for quite a bit it started again .. now I've kind of figured it out .. when I'm using the device actively (the temp raises) and it starts at the top right corner of the screen .. the touch screen just flickers there and then after a minute or so it doesn't respond at all any more .. if I just put it away and don't use it - the screen responds again after some time ...
NOW finally the question is: has anyone had any problems with Vario II like I do? I ought to think that it is a somewhat faulty device that I've got (it hasn't been physically damaged)
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Yes, one of my Hermes' had the exact same problem - touch screen malfunction starting at the upper right corner when temperature rose. The usual tricks to solve the screen alignment problem (loosening the screws, removing the gasket with a stripe of a business card) didn't help at all. I returned the device and got a new one.
yeah and how do I figure out what version it is ? I mean the S/N that is mentioned here ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems )
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It's printed on the box (at least of an O2 Trion) and on the sticker underneath the battery. Just look for the S/N starting with HTC6xx... but "our" defect is not the normal SA problem, it seems to be much rarer and not described in the Wiki.
Cheers
Daniel
Thank you so much for the answer Daniel, I'll get them to change it tomorrow.
I have exactly the same problem with my TyTN. In the morning, after the phone has been off all night, the touchscreen works for maybe 30mins, then the phone warms up and the screen ceases functioning. Bizarre though - I got the phone about two weeks ago - the screen worked fine (i.e. under all temp. conditions) for about 7 days, then it decided to crap out. Tried all the usual SA type solutions - as you guys noted above they didn't work. Gonna have to go back to the shop and get it replaced :-(
Oh, nearly forgot, s/n is HT632
One other thing I noticed (not sure if this is normal behavior or if it started after the touchscreen borked) - When the phone is active (i.e. not locked or in standby,) the top status leds (wifi, bluetooth, gsm) don't flash. Once the device is put in standby (i.e. tapping the power button) they start flashing again. Like I said, not sure if this is normal or if its related to the touchscreen going.
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One other thing I noticed (not sure if this is normal behavior or if it started after the touchscreen borked) - When the phone is active (i.e. not locked or in standby,) the top status leds (wifi, bluetooth, gsm) don't flash.
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This is definitely not normal. But it's an interesting observation. If the TyTN were a car, I'd say there's a bad ground connection somewhere.
Try a hard reset, and if that doesn't solve the problem, have it exchanged. (I very much doubt that a hard reset will help, but at least here customer service refuses to exchange a device before you tried a hard reset. )
Cheers
Daniel
Hard reset borked even more. Could't get past the touch screen calibration. Phone is now in the freezer to cool down - hopefully the touch screen will work long enough so I can get past the calibration
*EDIT* Just got it out the freezer (nice and cold now.) Hard reset, got through the calibration, everything ok for about 10 mins. LED's flashing with backlight on and touchscreen working. Then - touchscreen non-responsive at exactly the same time the status LED's cut out. I'm hypothesising that there's some kind of electrical short between the circuitry for the touchpad and the status LED's - it shorts as the devices temperature rises and (i guess) some of the materials expand and come into contact with each other. Since I don't want to void my warranty in case I have to take the phone back to the store, I haven't opened it up to confirm this. Has anyone had a detailed look at the connections at the top of the screen and around the status LED's to see if my explanation is at least possible? (then I might open it up and see if I can insulate the connections.)
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Yes, one of my Hermes' had the exact same problem - touch screen malfunction starting at the upper right corner when temperature rose. The usual tricks to solve the screen alignment problem (loosening the screws, removing the gasket with a stripe of a business card) didn't help at all. I returned the device and got a new one.
It's printed on the box (at least of an O2 Trion) and on the sticker underneath the battery. Just look for the S/N starting with HTC6xx... but "our" defect is not the normal SA problem, it seems to be much rarer and not described in the Wiki.
Cheers
Daniel
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I have the exact same problem!!
Two additional points :
1) my device screen will not switch off automaticaly and will stay on for ever unless I switch it off
2) When the issue manifests itself for the first time the device would automaticaly go back to the today screen like if the OK button would have been pressed many time or ... was stuck!!
That's my second Tytn device the first one had the SA defect.
I was so happy when I got my new one because the S/N showed HTC637XXX but sounds like a new issue even though I'm pretty convince that that the SA issue is not far from being related to this one.
My device SPV3100 HERM100
Hello lads,
Absolutely everything you've posted seems to be happening to my device.
Now the touch screen fails to respond even if it's cold (been lying on the bed for 5 hours doing nothing at all .. ). damn... seems like I'll have to ask the local shop to get me a free portable refrigerator for the thing to work properly
HT645
Vrobenmat said:
Hard reset borked even more. Could't get past the touch screen calibration. Phone is now in the freezer to cool down - hopefully the touch screen will work long enough so I can get past the calibration
*EDIT* Just got it out the freezer (nice and cold now.) Hard reset, got through the calibration, everything ok for about 10 mins. LED's flashing with backlight on and touchscreen working. Then - touchscreen non-responsive at exactly the same time the status LED's cut out. I'm hypothesising that there's some kind of electrical short between the circuitry for the touchpad and the status LED's - it shorts as the devices temperature rises and (i guess) some of the materials expand and come into contact with each other. Since I don't want to void my warranty in case I have to take the phone back to the store, I haven't opened it up to confirm this. Has anyone had a detailed look at the connections at the top of the screen and around the status LED's to see if my explanation is at least possible? (then I might open it up and see if I can insulate the connections.)
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Might get a chance to have an internal look tomorrow. From memory, and can't remember if the Wiki or Japanese dismantling site shows this, but I recall only a single mylar ribbon cable coming from screen area through to main board. There are if memory serves push in multi connectors from the bottom hard keypad and from front camera board (inc LEDs) to the muti ribbon cable on the back of the screen. Thus, simply put the screen, camera,hard phone keys all connect at the back of the screen to a single multi ribbon cable that goes to main board. Possibility then of a short with digitizer is at least possible. Of course digitizers are suceptible to current leakage and field interference so would not have to be an actual physical contact but could just be a close proximity issue.
Mike
Facing the same problems...
... I've been thinking about repalcing the display and the touchscreen. But now, considering that it is a HW issue, I can only replace these two things. If the bug is in the module above the screen (statur leds and camera) or related to the wireing at the back of the screen, it won't get rid of the problem. On the other hand, if it is a problem with the screen getting too hot, then I'm on the right track...
Has anyone tried this yet?
I'll try to call HTC on monday, maybe they know where the bug is.
HTC is not able or not willing to share what they know about the problem...
Hello, they excuse my English, I am possessor of a TYNT and I am with he himself problem that you, the problem is a failure of weld in the processador, when it reaches certain temperature fails and cooling it or pressing strongly on the processor it lets fail.
Greetings.
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Hello, they excuse my English, I am possessor of a TYNT and I am with he himself problem that you, the problem is a failure of weld in the processador, when it reaches certain temperature fails and cooling it or pressing strongly on the processor it lets fail.
Greetings.
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There may well be truth in what you say, I too believe it is something similar in some cases.
Do you have any proof of your suggestion. Can you provide pics or a diagram of the solder point you mean??
Mike
Hmm? The processor...?
...sorry, don't think so.
It's just that this bug occurs after using a device for months, isn't it?
Now, the first two weeks I installed all kind of programs using the wireless LAN almost permanently. My Hermes was never as "hot" as during its first two weeks. And what about the sliding-out of the keyboard? Doesn’t it always start there? This just doesn't sound right, does it?
Just received an email from someone who drew my attention to the ribbon cable connecting the upper and the lower part. What if there is a short one due to the plastic scratching the cable and then... who knows?
However, I do not disagree as far as the temp is concerned. Therefore, I'll put my Hermes on ice and see how long it does things right...
And still, there is no chance that it is related to the processor. If the processors ALU is getting too hot the entire device would be effected, wouldn’t it?
Anyways, I'm determined to find out what it is!
++ I just found a very peculiar post in the WIZARD forum. It was about some top-side buttons that kept pressing
++ without even touching… Opening the assigned programs over and over again. Odd, isn’t it?
++ That’s a HTC device AND has a sliding keyboard with a ribbon cable as a connector…
++ Yet, it operates with a different processor on a different main board.
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++ Still blaming the processor?
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...sorry, don't think so.
It's just that this bug occurs after using a device for months, isn't it?
Now, the first two weeks I installed all kind of programs using the wireless LAN almost permanently. My Hermes was never as "hot" as during its first two weeks. And what about the sliding-out of the keyboard? Doesn’t it always start there? This just doesn't sound right, does it?
Just received an email from someone who drew my attention to the ribbon cable connecting the upper and the lower part. What if there is a short one due to the plastic scratching the cable and then... who knows?
However, I do not disagree as far as the temp is concerned. Therefore, I'll put my Hermes on ice and see how long it does things right...
And still, there is no chance that it is related to the processor. If the processors ALU is getting too hot the entire device would be effected, wouldn’t it?
Anyways, I'm determined to find out what it is!
++ I just found a very peculiar post in the WIZARD forum. It was about some top-side buttons that kept pressing
++ without even touching… Opening the assigned programs over and over again. Odd, isn’t it?
++ That’s a HTC device AND has a sliding keyboard with a ribbon cable as a connector…
++ Yet, it operates with a different processor on a different main board.
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++ Still blaming the processor?
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And you are right too! if it appears that I am tending to agree with both above posts when on the face of it they disagree with each other it's because:
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There are different manifestations of this problem - the causes may not always be the same
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I agree it's NOT the processor and firmly believe it's hardware related. Of course it could be be a break (sometimes intermittent) in contact somewhere between screen and board or even a broken contact on the board (IN SOME CASES)
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In other cases it's just pressure being put on the touch sensitive screen often at the very inconvenient top right corner that closes/minimises applications or opens start menu.
There has not been a reliable way to fix this issue other than device replacement. Replacing the screen has been notable for it's failure to resolve the issue.
Mike
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And you are right too! if it appears that I am tending to agree with both above posts when on the face of it they disagree with each other it's because:
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There are different manifestations of this problem - the causes may not always be the same
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I agree it's NOT the processor and firmly believe it's hardware related. Of course it could be be a break (sometimes intermittent) in contact somewhere between screen and board or even a broken contact on the board (IN SOME CASES)
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In other cases it's just pressure being put on the touch sensitive screen often at the very inconvenient top right corner that closes/minimises applications or opens start menu.
There has not been a reliable way to fix this issue other than device replacement. Replacing the screen has been notable for it's failure to resolve the issue.
Mike
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So do you think the bug is to be found on the main board at all?
I'm planning to replace some parts from the screen half. In fact there are just 3 possible error sources:
1) The lcd in combination with the digitalizer;
2) The ribbon cable connecting screen parts and keypad at bottom; and
3) The keypad at the bottom itself
The ribbon cable includs the electronics for the status leds as well as the EARphone. ;-)
Soon I will be on all three of the above parts and if the error ain't there... I'm going to be MAD.
Will keep you IN THE LOOP!
Hello again, my conclusion is based on which I have disassembled my TYNT completely and I have connected it without the keyboard, of this form I have hoped to that it began to fail, later I have been moving and touching in any case the flat cable that unites the motherboard with the screen, the small circuit that takes built-in without obtaining results, single I have even obtained that it returns to work blowing air on the strongly pressed processor or on. Another observation is that if just ignited the machine and working correctly we applied single heat on the processor, begins to fail the touch screen. To my also is to me strange east failure since the temperature of the processor is not excessive when it fails, in fact desire firmly to be mistaken because there am lost the guarantee. Seguire investigating is matendre informed to you.
Greetings.
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So do you think the bug is to be found on the main board at all?
I'm planning to replace some parts from the screen half. In fact there are just 3 possible error sources:
1) The lcd in combination with the digitalizer;
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May be a fault there, but if it's just a squeeze due to heat ? pressure it may not resolve the issue.
2) The ribbon cable connecting screen parts and keypad at bottom; and
3) The keypad at the bottom itself
The ribbon cable includs the electronics for the status leds as well as the microphone.
Soon I will be on all three of the above parts and if the error ain't there... I'm going to be MAD.
Will keep you IN THE LOOP!
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I assume you mean earphone above as the microphone is on the mainboard.
Mike
Again I have tested, with the disassembled machine totally, start up it, I hope to that the touch screen does not respond and I put my tynt in the refrigerator, after two minutes and without moving I touch it the screen and magic, works correctly hata that again coje the room temperature.
Greetings.
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Hello again, my conclusion is based on which I have disassembled my TYNT completely and I have connected it without the keyboard, of this form I have hoped to that it began to fail, later I have been moving and touching in any case the flat cable that unites the motherboard with the screen, the small circuit that takes built-in without obtaining results, single I have even obtained that it returns to work blowing air on the strongly pressed processor or on. Another observation is that if just ignited the machine and working correctly we applied single heat on the processor, begins to fail the touch screen. To my also is to me strange east failure since the temperature of the processor is not excessive when it fails, in fact desire firmly to be mistaken because there am lost the guarantee. Seguire investigating is matendre informed to you.
Greetings.
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This is very interesting. When I said above it is not the processor, I meant it is not a software issue related to the processor. It can of course be a heat related problem with the processor. To summarise what you have found:
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You have a device that when first started works OK
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If you apply heat (but not much) to the processor it fails
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If you apply pressure to the processor it works again
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It begins working again when you blow on the processor or put it in the fridge.
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If you move/press or ensure the ribbon cable has a firm contact - this has no effect.
Please post if any of the above is NOT correct ALSO please post which chip you are heating/pressing.
Cheers
Mike
Hello again, everything is correct except point 3 really when this failing and you press on the then microprocessor the touch screen works correctly. Associate images.
Greetings.
EDIT by Mike. Point 3 has been edited in Mike's post to show the correct situation.
Firstly let me say this:...... I have a phone that has had to go back once because of a weird problem - so it might be "one of those phones " (the prob WAS fixed by a new board from HTC but thats another story !)
Here's the prob. Today when I was typing a text the back light kept adjusting up and down. This has NOT happened before So I did some tests:
1) Its to do with the autoadjust feature (not a prob when its OFF)
2) All is OK UNTIL you start to type this is how I spotted it typing a text. The backlight was going up and down - I thought my eyes were going!!!
ATTEMPTED RESOLUTION:
Fristly I did a soft reset......(prob still the same)
I down loaded LUMOS, which shows actual numbers for the light sensor,
Here's what I found......
It moves up and down a bit then settles, in a dark area its on say 3 or 0 but when I type on the screen it goes up and down like a yoyo ! ie 3,79,120,3,0 if I stop typing it settles on 3 or 0. AND THAT IN A NUT SHELL IS I "THINK" THE PROB !
"The light sensor seems to be affected by typing."
I never noticed this before so this may be a fault.
LUMOS seems to cope slightly better than win software with this and I can get around this by turning the sensor off, but if its faulty BACK it GOES....(AGAIN)
The last prob did my head in. I love this phone but I'm not sure if I got a touchy one !(pardon the pun)!
ANY HELP/THOUGHTS VERY GRATEFULLY ACCEPTED
Further update - CAUSE !
I have found out the cause !
It happens when screen taps (sound) is turned on and is FINEwhen it is off. I only tuned this on last week !
SO what they heck this is some software bug perhaps - any thoughts ?
Thanks so much !
First my touch hd died suddenly two months before one year is over. So I sent in for repair and paid $20 for some sort of fee on the top of shipping in. When I get it back, I thought everything is doing fine. Then suddenly the screen started acting weir. It turns on sometimes but sometimes it won't. I tried master reset. I tried to contact Htc. And I even try to hit it since I was pretty upset getting this lemon.
I happen to have to travel to Taiwan and I took it to a cell phone store hoping they can fix it since it is a Taiwan phone. I got it back today and they said it will cost $170 to fix. And they said that I got liquid in. I have never let it get close to any water or liquid. Obviously they said the sensor was activated. (I don't even know there is a sensor for water).
Anyway, my phone now can call in but screen turns on when it likes to. While I am now playing with it. I turn all the auto backlight off, including with battery or power connected. And I also turn off the auto backlight sensor. Somehow for almost two hours, I can turn on anytime I want to and off any time. I do not how long it will last. If this is the problem, that means the software of auto backlight off has bugs. I hope this helps those who are like me lost some sleep over this HTC nightmare. I do not expect it is fixed at this point. May be I am just lucky that it stays controllable for the past two hours. Good luch y'all.
Has anyone else found that occasionally the screen starts going mad? I will unlock the phone and suddenly it starts going into various menu options, brings up a browser or brings up widget settings. It's as if there is an invisible finger using the screen, although it's so fast it's as if there is a buffer of actions.
I'm not sure what causes it, but a colleague has a Samsung Galaxy and reckons he gets it when moisture gets on the screen. My screen has never been wet or near anything wet.
Additionally, I've noticed it was happening just now when I was charging the phone via USB. When I unplugged it the behaviour stopped.
Anyone else?
Yao
Never had that before , maybe a application you installed that is acting wierd?
I had a application installed that just drained my batt like hell.
I also reboot the phone after heavy duty, meaning using the explorer , games, ....
me too!
I'm getting the same problem at the moment. It takes me about 5 attempts to unlock the screen. Once I'm in, sometimes it responds to my touch, sometimes it doesn't, other times it just does random stuff. It's making the phone totally unusable .
I got the phone on Monday (3 days ago) this is the first time it happened. I'm sat in a cafe atm and it's quite humid in here; if it's a problem with moisture could the humidity explain it?
I once had a similar problem with an ipod touch after it had been in a bag with a leaking water bottle. It went OK by itself after a few hours.
Anybody else got any thoughts?
Thanks
Damian.
The thing that I had to get used to was gripping the phone properly. The lower right quarter of my right hand is a bit chubby, so when I gripped the phone my palm ended up wrapping around the phone and resting on the screen somewhat. This would result in the screen not always unlocking right, sometimes selecting widgets and icons on my homescreen, restricting scrolling in the browser and random text entry.
Since I've altered my grip I don't get those problems any more.
My tattoo does this all the time....
Looks like exposing the phone to extreme conditions like heat or humidity makes this...
I used to keep my phone next to my Burning furnace i7 HP laptop and there is an LCD leak now on the screen :-(...since i noticed the leak, the phone started behaving more cranky....
update ...
Just to give an update, my phone is OK again now. By the time I got home a few hours later it had sorted itself out.
It's a HTC Desire HD, btw.
Damian
I had the same problem when I used a non-HTC charger.
Same problem here happens when charging with the original charger, when tyring another HTC charger with the same model number the problem is gone.
My guess is the charger that came with the phone is defective.
A workaround: I'm using a case for my DHD, when this problem happens I can get the screen to act normal by keeping the phones body (metal part) in direct contact with my hand.
My nexus 7 currently has an unresponsive touchscreen. Almost none of my touches are working now and yesterday the tablet was working just fine but some of the touches were not working. Now almost all the touches arent working, did the hardware just fail on me?
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My nexus 7 currently has an unresponsive touchscreen. Almost none of my touches are working now and yesterday the tablet was working just fine but some of the touches were not working. Now almost all the touches arent working, did the hardware just fail on me?
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Here is what I posted yesterday on another thread, but short answer is that yes it's most probably hardware fault (I don't have picture at work, so can't attach it here).
I purchased my Nexus 7 from Staples during business trip to San Francisco. My device started having touch screen issues after few hours. Factory reset did fix it and I liked the device a lot so I didn't return it as I thought touch screen issue was just a SW glitch. Issue came back at the airport . Unfortunately I didn't have time to return the device at that point. Issue wasn't manifesting itself all the time, but seemed to come up every time I plugged the device in charger. Symptoms were exactly as in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVkvCXDKU2M and the other one in which multitouch is demonstrated. I suspected different applications as a reason to the problem as well as faulty charger. Then I found this thread and became assured that this must be a HW problem.
As I'm living in Finland and don't know when my next business trip to USA will take place I decided to try and fix the problem myself. I took off the back cover and touch screen worked perfectly. Initially I suspected grounding problem but pretty soon came to conclusion that it can not be the case. The problem in my case was the "sponge" pushing (what I assume is) display / touch flex. I have marked that in the attached picture. Even a very light touch to sponge caused touch screen to go crazy. As I don't have the luxury of immediate warranty repair I decided to remove the sponge and my Nexus 7 has been working flawlessly ever since. I can even charge and everything works as expected. When I started charging the device I placed my Nexus 7 on the table. It probably caused slightly increased pressure on back cover and therefore to "sponge". After removing the sponge I can't see any of the touch screen problems I was having. Couldn't be happier as I don't have any of the other problems people have found and device is working as it should, at least for now.
I don't encourage anyone to do what I did, but if you are in the same situation as I was with imported device, you can try to take off back cover and see if the problems are fixed. You should be very careful though not to break the device especially when it's powered on with back cover off. Hope this helps someone.
EDIT: 22.8.2012. Forgot to mention, that turn of WiFi if using device with back cover off. Turning off NFC and GPS won't hurt, although GPS is receiving only. Reason is that antennas are located on back cover.
My phone last week wasn't receiving texts so I restarted it and when it came back on the touchscreen no longer worked. The little white light would go on when I touched it so it knew where my finger was but any movement would not unlock the phone so I couldn't actually do anything with it. Sure enough a factory reset fixed the problem but I am still waiting for them to get me a new one in case the problem happens again to me. Anyone else have this happen to them or just a freak occurrence for me?
My son has gotten a hold of my s4 twice now since I have owned it. Both times I couldn't get the phone unlocked even though the touch screen was recognizing my touch. Restarting fixed it both times for me. Not sure if this is the same problem you are talking about, just thought I would share.
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Happened to me a few times. Both screen swipes and the capacitive button presses werent registering. Happened on lock screen, call logs (swiping to call wasnt working), and swipe to answer. Pressing the home button and going back to the app fixed it. Very random but annoying nonetheless especially when not able to answer a call
Seems like buggy software to me. I've had a different issue, my phone says I have data, but I don't, I've had to restart the phone to properly pick up a data signal. This has happened twice now. Seems to be like Samsung's touchwhiz is quite buggy...
Yeah restarting it did nothing for me, tried many times, took the battery out put it back in all that stuff. The same thing happened with my data, I had a connection that entire time that I was not receiving texts but none of them actually went through which is when the problem began.
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Happened to me a few times. Both screen swipes and the capacitive button presses werent registering. Happened on lock screen, call logs (swiping to call wasnt working), and swipe to answer. Pressing the home button and going back to the app fixed it. Very random but annoying nonetheless especially when not able to answer a call
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What app were you able to get in to to fix it? Would like to know in case the problem happens again when they get me a new one.
This happened to me last night, about had a major freak out.
First I have a couple questions for all of you who had this issue, so maybe we can pinpoint the actual cause:
1. Did you get any type of moisture (even just a little condensation) anywhere on or around the phone? Mine started acting up after I accidentally put my phone on the coffee table where some condensation had formed from a drink being there previously.
2. Any of you drop your phone at all? Even just a minor drop...as the day before I had a little drop (maybe from a foot off the ground), but I do have a case.
The reason I ask is because I started having this issue immediately after the phone was put on the condensation. Don't know if that was the cause, though, because I'm not sure exactly which of the steps below actually fixed it.
First I had to identify the exact problem...which I found by turning on "show touches" in Developer Options within the settings menu. This brings up a little white dot on the screen any time it registers a touch. Sure enough, I was getting "ghost touches" on the top left corner of my screen every 30 seconds or so - and it would generally last for 10-30 seconds or until I turned my screen on and off (that would fix it temporarily). The ghost touch was causing my drop down menu to pull down slightly every once in awhile, as well as not registering any of my other touches (including capacitive buttons). I knew the screen itself wasn't broken, because any addition touches were registering via the white dot - they just weren't interacting with the UI.
After doing some research online, apparently there are a couple main reasons that this ghost touching could occur:.
1. Faulty digitizer. Obviously this would Suck, and I really hoped it wasn't the cause. To repair would mean replacing the entire screen, as apparently the digitizer is attached to the screen and would be very difficult to replace by itself.
2. Any kind of moisture, whether water, skin oil, etc, getting in the cracks of the phone and staying under the screen, causing the pressure to indicate a false touch. Possible repair options included putting the phone near a WARM (but not too hot) surface for a period of time to hopefully cause the moisture to evaporate. Also some people said it just evaporated on its own after a few days (again, I hoped I wouldn't have to resort to this as I'm impatient and don't want to be without my phone for that long lol).
3. Software issue. Possible fix includes toggling HW overlays and/or GPU rendering.
Here's what I did:
Took the phone apart completely, made sure there was no visible moisture anywhere (there wasn't). Intermittently blew the phone (from the back and front, while it was disassembled) with warm air from a blow dryer. Left it alone, disassembled, for about 30 minutes.
Put the phone back together, booted up, immediately went to developer Options and (a) disabled HW overlays and (b) DISABLED "Force GPU rendering" (I actually already had it enabled).
BOOM - problem was gone!
So like I said, I'm not sure which of those did the trick - or which problem I had to begin with - but I'd be interested to know if anyone else had similar issues and/or fixes?
sam2c said:
Happened to me a few times. Both screen swipes and the capacitive button presses werent registering. Happened on lock screen, call logs (swiping to call wasnt working), and swipe to answer. Pressing the home button and going back to the app fixed it. Very random but annoying nonetheless especially when not able to answer a call
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CPA Poke said:
This happened to me last night, about had a major freak out.
First I have a couple questions for all of you who had this issue, so maybe we can pinpoint the actual cause:
1. Did you get any type of moisture (even just a little condensation) anywhere on or around the phone? Mine started acting up after I accidentally put my phone on the coffee table where some condensation had formed from a drink being there previously.
2. Any of you drop your phone at all? Even just a minor drop...as the day before I had a little drop (maybe from a foot off the ground), but I do have a case.
The reason I ask is because I started having this issue immediately after the phone was put on the condensation. Don't know if that was the cause, though, because I'm not sure exactly which of the steps below actually fixed it.
First I had to identify the exact problem...which I found by turning on "show touches" in Developer Options within the settings menu. This brings up a little white dot on the screen any time it registers a touch. Sure enough, I was getting "ghost touches" on the top left corner of my screen every 30 seconds or so - and it would generally last for 10-30 seconds or until I turned my screen on and off (that would fix it temporarily). The ghost touch was causing my drop down menu to pull down slightly every once in awhile, as well as not registering any of my other touches (including capacitive buttons). I knew the screen itself wasn't broken, because any addition touches were registering via the white dot - they just weren't interacting with the UI.
After doing some research online, apparently there are a couple main reasons that this ghost touching could occur:.
1. Faulty digitizer. Obviously this would Suck, and I really hoped it wasn't the cause. To repair would mean replacing the entire screen, as apparently the digitizer is attached to the screen and would be very difficult to replace by itself.
2. Any kind of moisture, whether water, skin oil, etc, getting in the cracks of the phone and staying under the screen, causing the pressure to indicate a false touch. Possible repair options included putting the phone near a WARM (but not too hot) surface for a period of time to hopefully cause the moisture to evaporate. Also some people said it just evaporated on its own after a few days (again, I hoped I wouldn't have to resort to this as I'm impatient and don't want to be without my phone for that long lol).
3. Software issue. Possible fix includes toggling HW overlays and/or GPU rendering.
Here's what I did:
Took the phone apart completely, made sure there was no visible moisture anywhere (there wasn't). Intermittently blew the phone (from the back and front, while it was disassembled) with warm air from a blow dryer. Left it alone, disassembled, for about 30 minutes.
Put the phone back together, booted up, immediately went to developer Options and (a) disabled HW overlays and (b) DISABLED "Force GPU rendering" (I actually already had it enabled).
BOOM - problem was gone!
So like I said, I'm not sure which of those did the trick - or which problem I had to begin with - but I'd be interested to know if anyone else had similar issues and/or fixes?
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I should not have had any condensation at all on my screen when it began. I was using the phone playing with WatchOn and setting it up for my TV, I was messing with it for quite a while and realized after a period I hadn't received texts in a long time (I normally get at least 1 every 10 minutes, I was going on a hour and a half with 0) which I thought was weird so I restarted the phone.
When the phone came back online I did not notice the white dot pressing itself anywhere, but anytime I touched the screen it would immediately know where my finger was and follow it around, but not actually press anything. When I held the power button and the little Shutdown and Restart options came up, if I sat there and just pressed either one of them constantly they would eventually recognize that I pressed something and do that action.
I was also able to get into the homescreen by getting the talk option to come up and backing out of it (The buttons on the bottom of the screen all worked fine) but once in the homescreen I couldn't actually press any buttons regularly so gave up on it.
The guy at the ATT store said he hadn't seen any other complaints about it so I did a factory reset while there (I had already backed up everything with Kies) and when it came back on there seemed to be no problems.
Like I said though I am waiting for a new one anyway, they are backordered at my local store (Should have got a new batch in Friday, not sure where my phone is now) so hopefully the new one I get doesn't have this problem nor the lag problem a lot of people have been getting.
bmroczka said:
Yeah restarting it did nothing for me, tried many times, took the battery out put it back in all that stuff. The same thing happened with my data, I had a connection that entire time that I was not receiving texts but none of them actually went through which is when the problem began.
What app were you able to get in to to fix it? Would like to know in case the problem happens again when they get me a new one.
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Just the stock Phone app. My problem seemed like a software problem more than anything else.
But if you have to restart the phone in order for the digitizer to respond, thats a different story. A swap should fix your issue, since it seems so uncommon.