Quick charger crapped out. Question on quick charging. - Droid Turbo 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have read about the turbo 2 chargers crapping out mine had been giving me issues. So I called Moto and they sent me a brand new in the box turbo 1 charger thats right folks. So I called them and said this is the turbo charger not the turbo 2. Well they don't have any turbo 2 chargers BS. So guess I'm stuck with this charger. My question is the turbo 2 charges at 24w and this one charges at 18w. Does it charge slower has anyone tested this or should I just not care or it is son negligible I wouldn't notice.

This happened to me as well, I haven't really noticed much of a difference. The charging time for the 18w isn't much slower than the 24w, but it is a little bit slower. Not a big deal though.

johnmansfield said:
This happened to me as well, I haven't really noticed much of a difference. The charging time for the 18w isn't much slower than the 24w, but it is a little bit slower. Not a big deal though.
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Well go figure verizon stepped up I called them and they said bring in the charger and they will replace with there 24 watt charger.

Verizon was cool in this case
Anyway, I don't like turbo charging. Shorts battery life.
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Zeljko1234 said:
Verizon was cool in this case
Anyway, I don't like turbo charging. Shorts battery life.
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I'll take my chances, don't see Motorola packing a charger with the phone that's gonna damage it.

mjones73 said:
What proof do you have that's happening?
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It's just chemistry/physics (learned in high school) and practice. More information with tests, graphs, explanations... you may find here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/ultra_fast_chargers.

I don't know, as long as it's not overheating the battery it shouldn't be really doing any damage. The UL did an extensive study on it and didn't find any issues with decreased battery life. I understand overheating them can shorten their life, the qualcomm tech used monitors the temps and adjusts accordingly. I think my phone gets hotter running GPS then it does turbo charging it. Time will tell I suppose..

Heat is main problem but not only one. Heat from GPS is coming from SoC and it's worse if is coming from the battery itself. Unfortunately battery cells are very sensitive. Electronics can help but not really avoid chemistry.

any idea how long does it take for u all to full charge on turbo?
i find it that i get turbo charge only when i switch the device off... is it like that for all of you?

I gave my phone back as I was getting very inconsistent readings...somtimes it does 20 to 80 % in 50 mins... sometimes it does like 30 to 55 in an hour.. which is very weird.. isnt it supposed to be consistent? and yes my phone hits temps of 45 Deg. Celsius..

Zeljko1234 said:
Verizon was cool in this case
Anyway, I don't like turbo charging. Shorts battery life.
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My friends bring that up about Quick Charge and shortening the life of the battery. But it's a moot point since I get a new phone at least once a year. I mean, it's not my problem at that point. Lol, that makes me sound like a total asshole.

You can donate you less than a year old phone to a dev
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Why does it take so long to charge?

I just have one question. Why does it take so long to charge from 10% to full? It takes my incredible about 2 hours and 15 minutes to charge, my moto droid 1 hour.
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Doesn't belong in the Dev. thread. As for your question.... your comparing apples to oranges. Mine takes about as long... so I don't think it's you. Probably the way the phone was designed.
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Doesn't belong in the Dev. thread. As for your question.... your comparing apples to oranges. Mine takes about as long... so I don't think it's you. Probably the way the phone was designed.
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agreed on both points, 2 hours seems pretty reasonable to charge IMO
Yeah
br125 said:
agreed on both points, 2 hours seems pretty reasonable to charge IMO
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People forget that back in the day it used to take 4 - 6 hours to charge your device, and it'd drain after about 3..... spoiled brats! LOL
Sorry I didnt mean to put the thread in the wrong place but this section seems more tech than others. Yea I figured it wasn't just my phone, I just wondering why HTC phones took longer to charge. Thanks for the help
The way Li-Ion batters are charged is not as simple as alkaline or NiMH - cell balancing, over voltage, under voltage, temp, authentication, etc.
You wouldn't want this to happen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJCZ4ayioCU
sounds like you are the type of guy who would complain about having to put premium fuel in his ferrari. one droid and inc are 2 totally different pieces of hardware. if you had reliable data to support a claim like htc phones take longer to charge then i might believe it, but u dont so dont make that claim. i have a blackberry storm (business phone) and inc (personal) i literally almost never use the BB and if i do its for calls lasting less than 10 mins. Yea it charges faster than my inc and yea the battery lasts longer, but i do way more on the inc and that takes battery and charge away. when i used the BB for everything before i got the inc, it was the same situation. so does that mean bb take a long time to charge or the battery sucks? no
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sounds like you are the type of guy who would complain about having to put premium fuel in his ferrari. one droid and inc are 2 totally different pieces of hardware. if you had reliable data to support a claim like htc phones take longer to charge then i might believe it, but u dont so dont make that claim. i have a blackberry storm (business phone) and inc (personal) i literally almost never use the BB and if i do its for calls lasting less than 10 mins. Yea it charges faster than my inc and yea the battery lasts longer, but i do way more on the inc and that takes battery and charge away. when i used the BB for everything before i got the inc, it was the same situation. so does that mean bb take a long time to charge or the battery sucks? no
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Was that necessary? Yes he asked a question in the wrong forum, yes it was a poorly worded/thought out question but seriously? Just made yourself look like a big douche...
Just sayin'
The way you use the phone has nothing to do with how long it takes to charge. Could be different voltages for the two phones. The lower the voltage, usually the longer it takes to charge. You'd have to look at your adapters and see what the output voltage is on the Inc. vs Moto. Might answer your questions. Otherwise, it's probably how the trickle charge works differently on the two phones....
**DO NOT USE A HIGHER VOLTAGE CHARGER** !!!!
Also if you have a TON of stuff running on your phone, it could be a lot less "idle" than you think while it's charging.
I think the trick is to charge your phone at the perfect times - like while you are driving to work (especially if it's a long drive) or while asleep. Who cares how long it takes while you are asleep??
Droppin' some science!
This is just technical information for anyone that may be interested, I don't know if it will exactly "help", but it should answer the question of the post (also please keep in mind that these are two phones from two different manufacturers so even if they are running the same OS, the way they manage and consume power would be different regardless).
Motorola Droid (Stock)
Lithium-Ion Battery
1400 mAh
3.7 volts (Output)
HTC Incredible (Stock)
Lithium-Ion Battery
1300 mAh
4.2 volts (Output)
For tips on improving the battery life of an Incredible, there is a highly detailed forum post at AndroidForums.com
i wish my incredible would charge in 2 hours at 10%. My DI takes 4 hours to charge. very sad
moosc said:
i wish my incredible would charge in 2 hours at 10%. My DI takes 4 hours to charge. very sad
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Using the stock wall charger?? Don't think mine's ever taken 4 hours
Yep use the stock wall charger and data cable.
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Yep use the stock wall charger and data cable.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
aibrean said:
You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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well its the cable that comes in the box.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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Huh?
The data cable is what comes in the box with the AC head (which has no cable but a USB connector).
I use the same data cable connected to a number of different computers, notebooks and netbook and charge all the time.
When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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Huh?
The data cable is what comes in the box with the AC head (which has no cable but a USB connector).
I use the same data cable connected to a number of different computers, notebooks and netbook and charge all the time.
When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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I think he means that he's using the cable with the AC head, and it takes 4 hours (as in, he's not using some off-brand charger from Radioshack, or something like that).
My DI definitely takes longer than 2 hours as well, Not sure the exact %'s, but at home today had it plugged in from when I woke up until I left for work (about 2 hours) and it seemed like it went roughly from 10% to 80% only.
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Was that necessary? Yes he asked a question in the wrong forum, yes it was a poorly worded/thought out question but seriously? Just made yourself look like a big douche...
**DO NOT USE A HIGHER VOLTAGE CHARGER** !!!!
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All kinds of misinformation on this thread. Any charger that complies with USB standards is going to be 5V, no more no less, whether it has a microUSB tail on it, no tail, or a rat tail.
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You don't want to charge with the data cable. It's intended to only maintain battery life when tethered, not charge it.
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Huh?When connected to a computer, it is slower to charge, but it charges just fine.
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Exactly. PC/LAptop USB power is just as good as wall-power, it's just a lower amperage, something like 500mA to the AC head's 1A/1000mA. More amps means faster charge.
I believe our DI batteries are 3-cell, judging by the four terminals on the battery: 1 (+)power, 2 (+)power, 3 (+)power, 4 (-)common ground. I don't know what sort of battery the Moto Droid has but it's a motorola, so it's gonna fail soon anyway (sorry, I'm just sayin). I know the G1/Dream battery was 3-terminal, and when some went to a Seidio 2600mAh extended battery (twice as many cells), they had to charge it 8 hours when they first got it.
Obviously, turning the phone off to reduce the load on the battery, using the wall charger, and making sure you're not short-charging all the time will reduce charge times overall. Judging by the battery life I've gotten so far and what a monster this phone is compared to my G1s, I'm more than happy to wait an extra hour with the phone off, that's what Google Voice is for

Slowest Charging Phone I've Ever Used

I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
NextNexus said:
I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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Bro, before you make assumptions, give the battery a couple cycles to settle itself.
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Bro, before you make assumptions, give the battery a couple cycles to settle itself.
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I understand the battery needs to be trained but I've purchased hundreds of mobile devices in my life. Never has even an initial charge taken anywhere close to this long.
Is this using the supplied charger? Any processes running in the background that could be keeping the phone awake using power?
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I understand the battery needs to be trained but I've purchased hundreds of mobile devices in my life. Never has even an initial charge taken anywhere close to this long.
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I know it helped with the old nickel cadmium batteries, but I've been under the impression that conditioning doesn't do anything with today's lithium ion batteries, that they are as good as they will get right out of the box.
Charge time Is a lot less than 8 hours normally. That said, it is still a slow charging phone compared to my previous few phones. However it is not too bad to be a complaint from me. We also have to be aware that the battery is a little bigger than the previous generation of phones, so it would take longer to charge anyway.
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Is this using the supplied charger? Any processes running in the background that could be keeping the phone awake using power?
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Yes this is using the supplied charger. Did a little searching online and it seems that there are others who have this issue. It was noted in the Anantech review as well as the following quote from the Droid Life review:
On a related note, the One takes forever to fully charge. I’m not sure why that is, but no matter what charger I seemed to grab when needing some juice, I found myself checking the status of the battery meter far more often than on other phones in my possession.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/17/htc-one-review/
My phone needs about 4h to completely charge.
From Anandtech, the rationale is that Qualcomms fast charging is disabled in an effort to preserve the integrity of the battery's longevity; since you know, its sealed and has a repairability rating of 0. The Gs4 will probably crank that fast charge up and the user can replace the batteries as often as he deems necessary.
slow charging time seems a pretty fair trade off for a slow discharging time also right?
Riyal said:
slow charging time seems a pretty fair trade off for a slow discharging time also right?
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Isn't that unrelated?
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From Anandtech, the rationale is that Qualcomms fast charging is disabled in an effort to preserve the integrity of the battery's longevity; since you know, its sealed and has a repairability rating of 0. The Gs4 will probably crank that fast charge up and the user can replace the batteries as often as he deems necessary.
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Probably this. In the end it is for the users benefit.
I was thinking, even my note 2 don't take more than 3 hours to charge. Heck even my 6200 hyperion battery takes about 5.
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NextNexus said:
I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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You shouldn't fully discharge. And my battery with the HTC charger does not that much longer than other smartphones but agree the S3 is a little quicker to charge.
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From the Anandtech review:
What’s interesting however is that the charge curve gets the One to 85–90 percent under the normal 3 or so hours, it’s that last ten percent that takes forever
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Maybe they designed it so that the user would be discouraged to fully charge the phone, and thus completing fewer cycles?
If it's just the last ten percent that takes such a long time, I'm not too worried about it. There are few situations during the day that I'd have to charge the phone to 100%, other than an overnight charge.
NextNexus said:
I just got the HTC One and the phone itself is great. That being said, I have one pretty large complaint...I've never had a phone that charges slower than this in my life. Is anyone else experiencing brutally slow charging speeds? Probably take 5 minutes for it to charge 1% which means it would take over 8 hours to get to 100%. Is this really possible?
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It's a pretty big batter, to start. But you're probably not getting much current to the phone. If you charge from the USB on a computer, you're hardly getting any current to the phone so it's going to charge very slowly.
The faster chargers are 2A chargers. I have a 2A car charger that came with my Nexus One car dock I've been using for a long time and it's the fastest charger I've seen out of all of them. All of my phones (and friends' phones) have charged must faster with that charger.
I have a 1.5A AC charger too. It's still not as fast as my 2A car charger, but I'm also inside at that point, so it doesn't matter. But most chargers I've seen are 1A or less. Those are slow.
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I know it helped with the old nickel cadmium batteries, but I've been under the impression that conditioning doesn't do anything with today's lithium ion batteries, that they are as good as they will get right out of the box.
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It's not the battery you're conditioning. It's the battery stats on the phone. The phone needs to "get to know" the battery to accurately describe its status.
Charge time should be a tad under 4 hours on AC, so I would say something appears to be wrong. Unless of course you're doing something heavy on battery) gaming/navigation) during charging.
what scm_crash said. pick up a 2A charger if you really need juice fast, otherwise it's probably designed to simply charge overnight for longevity
I always use my nexus 7 charger (2A) when i need juice on the spot.
It's ridiculous that people here think that the HTC one is not reparable ,so HTC designed a phone that can't be open ? What if you break your screen ? So instead of repairing your screen and be charged 180 $€£ for example ,HTC will charge you 599 for a new phone cause the phone is unreparable? That's ridiculous.HTC made the phone,HTC knows how to open the phone ,HTC will put phone back together again period.
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It's ridiculous that people here think that the HTC one is not reparable ,so HTC designed a phone that can't be open ? What if you break your screen ? So instead of repairing your screen and be charged 180 $€£ for example ,HTC will charge you 599 for a new phone cause the phone is unreparable? That's ridiculous.HTC made the phone,HTC knows how to open the phone ,HTC will put phone back together again period.
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It is strange that this forum suddenly has a lot of new negative misinformed posts just when the One is being launched in the USA.
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actually it's not comparable coz the volume of the battery aren't the same.
you can also check the charger's specs , a 2300mha battery charged by a 1A charger, that's approximately 2.7 hrs.
still, for the first time it took more than half an hour to charge from 99% to 100% and the LED to turn green, that was strange. probably because I deleted the battery stat file for calibration

Fast charging really is the killer feature of the note 4...

Cmon, lets give the credit where credit is due.
I no longer have to worry about battery charge thanks to this new fast charge thing. 45 mins after having a low battery I'm at 80%... thank god battery charging has finally progressed to this.
I use my phone for music / radio shows all day long. I can't tell you how happy I am to have this fast charge thing.. on the boat, in the car, at work at home, a 30 min charge and my phone is ready to go for HOURS!
Thank you to samsung and the note 4 for FINALLY putting a phone out there that is awesome!!
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Cmon, lets give the credit where credit is due.
I no longer have to worry about battery charge thanks to this new fast charge thing. 45 mins after having a low battery I'm at 80%... thank god battery charging has finally progressed to this.
I use my phone for music / radio shows all day long. I can't tell you how happy I am to have this fast charge thing.. on the boat, in the car, at work at home, a 30 min charge and my phone is ready to go for HOURS!
Thank you to samsung and the note 4 for FINALLY putting a phone out there that is awesome!!
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I agree but I rather swap my battery. When I get down to lets say 5% I don't have to worry about plugging it in. It takes less than a minute to go from 0% to 100% and it's less strain on the charging port and circuit. Plus if you still want to use the phone you don't have to be tethered to a cable.
+1 I love it. Swapping out the batter. LOL Not so much.
Battery swapping really sucks if you have a case on the phone. I vote for fast charging. Beautiful thing! I just need to get a fast car charger and I can charge my phone fully during my commute to work.
...and it's less strain on the charging port and circuit...
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As an electrical engineer, seeing statements like this makes me cringe. I can absolutely assure you that there is no "strain" on the charging circuit, or battery, or anything else for that matter.
The only thing I could say is, possibly, the reduced battery life span due to the additional charge cycles. But charge cycles for modern Li-ion is already really high. But even if I were to entertain the fact that the battery might need to be replaced sooner, who cares. You are buying another battery NOW, vs the possibility of buying another battery in a year or so.
As far as personal preference goes, if a spare battery is your thing, go for it. But please try not to perpetuate the idea that the fast charging circuit or battery can't handle the charging.
I'm more than happy to go over the physics and electrical theory on how charging works. You might be interested to know that in a lab setting we can get charging rates as fast as 1 minute per 1000mAh with minimal heat build up (the major hurdle in improving charging rates)
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
Fast Charging + Killer battery life = One Happy Customer
Serinety said:
As an electrical engineer, seeing statements like this makes me cringe. I can absolutely assure you that there is no "strain" on the charging circuit, or battery, or anything else for that matter.
The only thing I could say is, possibly, the reduced battery life span due to the additional charge cycles. But charge cycles for modern Li-ion is already really high. But even if I were to entertain the fact that the battery might need to be replaced sooner, who cares. You are buying another battery NOW, vs the possibility of buying another battery in a year or so.
As far as personal preference goes, if a spare battery is your thing, go for it. But please try not to perpetuate the idea that the fast charging circuit or battery can't handle the charging.
I'm more than happy to go over the physics and electrical theory on how charging works. You might be interested to know that in a lab setting we can get charging rates as fast as 1 minute per 1000mAh with minimal heat build up (the major hurdle in improving charging rates)
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
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i love everything about this post, btw. i'd love to know the physics and electrical theory if you ever want to share. it would probably help me to understand which is better for the phone, not that i need it right now, but i'm sure it would be beneficial to have that knowledge. i am one that is a fan of the fast charging, but i've also been looking at Samsung's spare battery charger too. the Korean Note 4 variants actually came WITH the spare battery charger (lucky ducks) but it's going for $45 ish right now on Samsung's website. might not be a bad investment at all, even though my battery life is averaging 12 - 15 hours on a singe charge.
Serinety said:
Fast charging is nothing new. A similar concept are large capacitors, like a camera flash. They charge in seconds. The major engineering challenge is controlling the discharge rate, in most cases the heat build up is limiting factor.
Don't be surprised if the note 5 charges in 0 to 100 in less than 5 min.
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This is true. I had an Energizer battery charger that could charge my AA or AAA batteries in 15 minutes. They got very hot though. This was in the 90's.
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This is true. I had an Energizer battery charger that could charge my AA or AAA batteries in 15 minutes. They got very hot though. This was in the 90's.
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I had something like this as well. Mine had a fan on it that would attempt to keep things cool. I have an Ego lawn mower that can charge the HUGE battery pack that goes in it up by 50% in 15 minutes, and it sits on a big charging base with a huge, loud fan. That's a little different than charging a cell phone battery or AA/AAA batteries.
+1 on the fast charge thing. To me, that's revolutionary.
Fast charging is awesome, but I really don't use it. My battery life is so great the it easily lasts me the whole day with moderate usage. I usually end the day with 30+% left. The fast charging is an awesome feature, but i really have no use for it.
Someone was saying having fast charging checked depletes battery quicker. Ain't that some bs?
Has anyone given any numbers as to how slow / the rate of wireless charging is on this phone? I love fast charging but I want wireless charging as well.
I agree with a couple of these posts. I have moderate use on my phone and usually end the day at 40% or higher. However, I love having spare batteries that I can just pop in and be at 100%. Just ordered 3 plus wall charger for $20 shipped. Hard to beat having 3 full charges at hand if you don't have a chance to plug in for a while.
Battery life is great on this phone........period!!!
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Has anyone given any numbers as to how slow / the rate of wireless charging is on this phone? I love fast charging but I want wireless charging as well.
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I believe most wireless chargers are 1 amp output. The stock wall charger is 2 amp so I'm guessing it would take about 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 hours to fully charge on wireless,I'm not expert though.
husker97 said:
Fast charging is awesome, but I really don't use it. My battery life is so great the it easily lasts me the whole day with moderate usage. I usually end the day with 30+% left. The fast charging is an awesome feature, but i really have no use for it.
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You'll find it helpful sooner or later trust me
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masri1987 said:
Someone was saying having fast charging checked depletes battery quicker. Ain't that some bs?
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Maybe they thought it said "fast discharging" lol
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You'll find it helpful sooner or later trust me
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I do not doubt the usefulness of it, and I know it will come in handy some days. It's just my normals days I have battery to spare.

Moto Nexus 6 to priv?

Going from Nexus 6 to priv is something I'm finally considering now that the are worth the same amount. Wouldn't have been an option a year ago, but now that Verizon allows hotspot on unlimited it finally is. Only have three concerns: Is the screen big enough for watching videos for like an hour or two like the Nexus? Is the snapdragon 808 really laggy compared to the 805? (Been reading reviews stating that) Lastly, is the single front firing speaker loud enough?
Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
nascar48 said:
Well I have received my BlackBerry PRIV and is it just me or is the charging take forever? Plus it is always hot to the touch and gives an overheating warning when downloading apps?
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The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
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The stock charger is about 1 amp, so its really takes a long time for the Priv's 3400 MAH battery. The best thing is to get a faster charger. Nice thing about the Priv and Nexus 6 it comes with wireless charging. But if you go that route be sure you DO get a fast wireless charger, like Qualcomm 2.0, or it will take FOREVER to charge.
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I think I failed to mention this, but I was using the stock Motorola Nexus 6 charger that is quick charge compatible and still experienced slow charging times. It may partially be the slightly larger battery, but I think the real issue with charging was overheating. It got better once the phone stopped updating apps. Though speaking of overheating, I have to say, I haven't seen a phone sit out in the sun for 10 minutes and overheat to the point of being hot to the touch and disabling all network connections since my Droid razr m lol. At least it seems like the priv will make a nice handwarmer for the winter. (Maybe seeing a connection where there isn't one, but the razr m had a Kevlar back to it that had a similar feel to the priv, I wonder if those black rubbery materials are a poor choice for a phone due to heat issues?)
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I have a wireless Pleson Fast Charger. At first it took 20+ hours (probably longer than that, but I wasn't going to wait around) to charge from 30%. So it turn's out I wasn't using the right wall-wart (it seems most wireless chargers don't provide a wall unit, just a USB cable), and I was just using whatever I had on hand. Once I got a proper wallwart, I can go from 20% in about 3-4hrs. Heat is definitely an issue, especially with the Priv. I wish I can find that article and link it for you, but essentially it said its better for the Li-Ion battery to charge in short in bursts (like 10-30 minutes) rather than one long fell swoop (like over night charging) because of the heat. And heat is bad for a overall battery life cycle. I don't now about you, but I'm not looking forward to swapping out my battery. That one is going to be a major surgery
You're right that the Priv makes for a great hand-warmer, which is why its part of my EDC. Too bad I live in Arizona :/

FAST charging shorten battery life?

I know batteries are built to be charged some 10,000 with little to no issues. Will fast charging change this? Since does it not stress the battery more to fast charge vs standard charge? Just looking for information. And to start a conversation. Since this is their first flagship without removable battery
no.Urban legend.
Heat would be considered the number 1 enemy of battery life, fast charging makes batteries hotter therefore it's not illogical to think that battery life may be reduced using fast charge.
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There is interwebs evidence to support fast charging does reduce battery life, but on such a minuscule scale it makes little difference to life of the battery. Most LiOn batteries will get 18 months before you see any noticeable degradation.
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skyfox99 said:
There is interwebs evidence to support fast charging does reduce battery life, but on such a minuscule scale it makes little difference to life of the battery. Most LiOn batteries will get 18 months before you see any noticeable degradation.
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iPhone's seems more prone to battery life reduction. My 6S Plus that is 1½ years old got more than double the battery life when exchanging for a new battery recently.
I use oppo find 7 vooc lg g4 qqc3 and nothing problem...
..under 2 years of use..
evo4g63t said:
Heat would be considered the number 1 enemy of battery life, fast charging makes batteries hotter therefore it's not illogical to think that battery life may be reduced using fast charge.
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But if heat kills battery longevity recording 30, 3 min videos in FHD or UHD over a year time would probably affect it also? I know I had my phone auto dim the screen and want to shut down after recording a 3 min video outdoors in 98°f weather this last month. With the warning of phone being too hot
kabirjedi said:
I use oppo find 7 vooc lg g4 qqc3 and nothing problem...
..under 2 years of use..
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2 years is nothing. But again g4 = easily replaceable battery.. I believe industry standard is 10,000 recharges or something like that.
dannejanne said:
iPhone's seems more prone to battery life reduction. My 6S Plus that is 1½ years old got more than double the battery life when exchanging for a new battery recently.
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Iphones are more prone to having problems vs high-end android phones with every situation. Truth told. I am forced to use one at work iphone 6s. And every time I use it m I feel as if I'm going back in time, feels dated and too limiting to me. Even just sharing stuff and using it for work.
Of course heat will damage the battery over time.
But I never experienced that my phone is heating up while charging. So I prefer to plug in my phone when it has 25%, charge it 10min and the plug it out at 80%.
Doing small cycles without fully charging and discharging is way better to the battery than doing 0-100% cycles.
Keeping the battery as full as possible (I have seen it suggested 30% or higher) will increase battery life as it reduces chemical reactions that slowly causing reduced capacity.
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lg3FTW said:
2 years is nothing. But again g4 = easily replaceable battery.. I believe industry standard is 10,000 recharges or something like that.
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OMG 2 years nothing?.AVG smartphone age..
kabirjedi said:
OMG 2 years nothing?.AVG smartphone age..
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I just upgrade from my g3 to the g6. Over 2 years
What about using wireless charging? Could that be damaging to the battery?
On the bright side, it charges slower. So, doesn't get hot. But, it is also a longer process.
LG is giving 2 years of warranty in the US. If it goes for 2 years without losing significant capacity, I am okay with that. Not planning to use the device for more than 2 years.
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What about using wireless charging? Could that be damaging to the battery?
On the bright side, it charges slower. So, doesn't get hot. But, it is also a longer process.
LG is giving 2 years of warranty in the US. If it goes for 2 years without significant losing significant capacity, I am okay with that. Not planning to use the device for more than 2 years.
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Wireless charging is hotter than fast charging 90% of the time. Truly
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Wireless charging is hotter than fast charging 90% of the time. Truly
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I would say it depends on the charger quality. In my experience, fast charging is way hotter than wireless charging. Specially if the fast charging is done starting at low% in the battery.

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