EDIT: Long story short, if Motorola website says your phone does not qualify for bootloader unlocking, retry in 24 hours. If your phone is an unlockable version you should receive the unlock code. Thanks to mschumacher69.
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It is common for the website to say an unlockable model is not eligible at first, this has happened in the past to me and to other people. You just wait (for 24 hrs usually) and then it would give you the unlock code. I think it has to do with when you register your phone with the Moto ID. I think it takes 24 hrs for the phone to become unlockable (as long as it is an unlockable model) after you register it with the Moto ID..
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ORIGINAL POST:
I have a Moto X (2013) with Android 4.4.4 and read here that the I cant root because of the locked bootloader and it seemed I cant unlock it too.
On the Motorola webpage (here) where I can request the unlock code for the bootloader I got this message:
"Your device does not qualify for bootloader unlocking"
I tried submitting the form with the string many times. It failed every time. I restarted the browser, cleared the cache etc until I tried again (probably for the 40th time) and finally a button to request the unlock code showed up. I clicked on it and got some network error being shown that the page cannot be displayed. I then copied the link the browser was trying to open, which looked like this:
(I have no idea if its a good or bad practice to post information which can identify my particular phone, So I have changed the numbers a little for the purpose of this thread)
HTML:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/cc/productRegistration/unlockPhone/2E45000111111111/6A5B46010E0001000000000000000000/4AA31B911E16D2EC12A111121C16CB1111FED4E4/?rad=Yes
This is how my original string looked like:
2E45000111111111#1111117363011304D111100581131303131000000#4AA31B911E16D2EC12A111121C16CB1111FED4E4#6A5B46010E0001000000000000000000
I copied this link and in the next hour tried to open it a couple of times. It did not work until the 5th or 6th time when I got to the page which said I should now have received an email with the unlock code (Please note that on the Motorola website I was logged in with a Motorola ID account). Unlock code worked perfectly and I now have the bootloader unlocked (And the phone restored to its defaults, so make sure you BACKUP before unlocking the bootloader!).
I don't know why it worked. My impression is that the webpage where you request the unlock code is just working differently at different times. Why else did I get the code when I was first told that my device could not have it?
Hope this helps somebody in the future.
What moto x variant did you have?
didn't work for me kept saying device does not qualify.
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What moto x variant did you have?
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XT1053 -Unlocked Sim International version.
What was written on my receipt when I ordered the phone was Any Carrier/T-Mobile/AT&T
When I contacted Motorola Support they asked for the IMEI and said it did not qualify for bootloader unlock.
I tried many times in the morning and throughout the day. It worked late in the evening. Maybe try more and it could work for you too?
pavel4444 said:
XT1053 -Unlocked Sim International version.
What was written on my receipt when I ordered the phone was Any Carrier/T-Mobile/AT&T
When I contacted Motorola Support they asked for the IMEI and said it did not qualify for bootloader unlock.
I tried many times in the morning and throughout the day. It worked late in the evening. Maybe try more and it could work for you too?
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Dude, this variant is unlockable, u didn't uncover the secrets of the universe in here...
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Dude, this variant is unlockable, u didn't uncover the secrets of the universe in here...
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I was told by Motorola website that the phone is not eligible for unlocking the bootloader. I have also searched through any information I could find on this forum and elsewhere on how to unlock it. Nothing I found was helpful. If you step outside of this forum for a minute you would probably realize most people would give up right there. In the end the same webpage worked and gave the code, whats wrong with letting others know?
I am not often around this forum, but maybe for you it is very obvious that a webpage can say no 10 times and then say yes for whatever reason.
got it to work!
Thanks for the info man. I just bought a XT1060 last week and stumbled upon this. First time I tried last night the page wouldnt load. I retired today after work and it sent me the email!
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I was told by Motorola website that the phone is not eligible for unlocking the bootloader. I have also searched through any information I could find on this forum and elsewhere on how to unlock it. Nothing I found was helpful. If you step outside of this forum for a minute you would probably realize most people would give up right there. In the end the same webpage worked and gave the code, whats wrong with letting others know?
I am not often around this forum, but maybe for you it is very obvious that a webpage can say no 10 times and then say yes for whatever reason.
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I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that it's not this secret link that allowed you to unlock, it's the fact that your model is unlockable that allowed you to unlock. If you kept trying the normal way without going through this "special" link, you would have also been able to unlock.
It is common for the website to say an unlockable model is not eligible at first, this has happened in the past to me and to other people. You just wait (for 24 hrs usually) and then it would give you the unlock code. I think it has to do with when you register your phone with the Moto ID. I think it takes 24 hrs for the phone to become unlockable (as long as it is an unlockable model) after you register it with the Moto ID.
All I'm saying is that trying this hidden link with a model that is not unlockable (i.e: AT&T variant) will not spit the unlock code out.
I am now even more depressed... no CM for me :c we need a hero.
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I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying that it's not this secret link that allowed you to unlock, it's the fact that your model is unlockable that allowed you to unlock. If you kept trying the normal way without going through this "special" link, you would have also been able to unlock.
It is common for the website to say an unlockable model is not eligible at first, this has happened in the past to me and to other people. You just wait (for 24 hrs usually) and then it would give you the unlock code. I think it has to do with when you register your phone with the Moto ID. I think it takes 24 hrs for the phone to become unlockable (as long as it is an unlockable model) after you register it with the Moto ID.
All I'm saying is that trying this hidden link with a model that is not unlockable (i.e: AT&T variant) will not spit the unlock code out.
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Thanks for the clear explanation.
If I had found this information when I was trying to unlock the bootloader, I would have not posted this thread.
I have included it in the original post so it is easier to find.
wildblade64 said:
I am now even more depressed... no CM for me :c we need a hero.
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We do, man!
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I have just debranded my tmobile G2 and i am now running thr 2.1 generic htc rom. I just need to unlock the phone.
Does anyone know where if there is a free or cheap way to do it?
Thanks in advance.
Can't unlock for free. Someone else can recommend you a place as I haven't bothered.
no free way, unless you call tmobile and get them to unlock it.
the way ive unlocked 2 heros is by using express-codes on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Unlock-Co...698131?pt=UK_Phones_Software_RL#ht_1773wt_911
there are other sellers, but i can actually recommend this guy from using his codes.
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no free way, unless you call tmobile and get them to unlock it.
the way ive unlocked 2 heros is by using express-codes on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Unlock-Co...698131?pt=UK_Phones_Software_RL#ht_1773wt_911
there are other sellers, but i can actually recommend this guy from using his codes.
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Thanks just ordered one. Hope it works.
Did the code work Jagger2K?
mikemac said:
Did the code work Jagger2K?
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Yea it worked great. I can highly recomend the guy in the above link. I ordered it at 1.30 am and it was sent at 3.30am.
mikemac said:
Did the code work Jagger2K?
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I can also recommend the above seller,bought the code earlier tonight and received within 10 mins of buying.
hi,
I unlocked my htc hero a week ago.
If I update my mobile software (firmware), I have to re-unlock it ?
thank you
alphas_hero said:
hi,
I unlocked my htc hero a week ago.
If I update my mobile software (firmware), I have to re-unlock it ?
thank you
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No, unlock is permanent.
Im currently locked to orange but have also purchased a code from the link above but aside from the being able obviously use different sims are there any other advantages to unlocking ?
Reason I ask is because im pretty sure that when I first rooted and loaded a custom rom I used an orange specific radio.....but more recent threads suggest radios are region rather than network specific....
I dont currently have any issues being locked so want to be sure there will be no adverse effects from the unlock.....
Cheers
rtorbs said:
Im currently locked to orange but have also purchased a code from the link above but aside from the being able obviously use different sims are there any other advantages to unlocking ?
Reason I ask is because im pretty sure that when I first rooted and loaded a custom rom I used an orange specific radio.....but more recent threads suggest radios are region rather than network specific....
I dont currently have any issues being locked so want to be sure there will be no adverse effects from the unlock.....
Cheers
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No other unlocking advantages AFAIK, although orange uk is known to have issues on some of the radios if locked (to be fair, I think it happened only once or twice).
But I think that is all over. Radios are region/hardware defined, not network defined. Unlocking doesn't cause issues. In fact, unlocking was the way to use the "non orange" radio most recently on an orange phone.
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No, unlock is permanent.
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thank you........
This being a community of highly skilled devs, surely someone can figure out how we can unlock our phones without having to pay for the 'privilege'?
Even the guys we are buying the codes from must have figured something out or are buying the codes from elsewhere?
How exactly does this work? Where do you enter the unlock code?
I thought once you install custom firmware you phone will be unlocked...
BoogWeed said:
This being a community of highly skilled devs, surely someone can figure out how we can unlock our phones without having to pay for the 'privilege'?
Even the guys we are buying the codes from must have figured something out or are buying the codes from elsewhere?
How exactly does this work? Where do you enter the unlock code?
I thought once you install custom firmware you phone will be unlocked...
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They are buying their codes direct from HTC. And a method of unlocking for free is known, but it needs done before every boot, so it's not usable, as it needs a PC and home-made serial terminal cable to send AT commands to the radio chip IIRC.
The radio requires the code to allow access, and the codes are randomly assigned/generated, so there's no algorithm to reverse engineer.
You insert a SIM that your phone won't accept, and then you get asked for the unlock code at boot, just like entering your SIM PIN.
And at £6.75 for an unlock code, I'm not gonna spend hours on looking for a method I'm afraid, since I can't justify the time to myself.
BoogWeed said:
This being a community of highly skilled devs, surely someone can figure out how we can unlock our phones without having to pay for the 'privilege'?
Even the guys we are buying the codes from must have figured something out or are buying the codes from elsewhere?
How exactly does this work? Where do you enter the unlock code?
I thought once you install custom firmware you phone will be unlocked...
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dont see how this place having devs means that you get to unlock your phone for free. this place is for rom development mainly, if you want methods on how to unlock, there are forums like gsmhosting that deal with that.
the guys that sell the codes online havent "figured something out". they are providing a service which they also pay for, they are basically middle men. i suggest you research how unlocking via code works.
to unlock via code, you put in a sim that isnt allowed, eg a tmobile sim into an orange locked phone, then itll tell you "sim restricted" or thereabouts, and ask for the code. thats where you enter it.
custom firmware has nothing to do with unlocking, although in certain cases (eg orange firmware) custom roms or downgrading is required to unlock the phone.
still doesnt mean that custom roms actually unlock the phone.
Just been on eBay to leave feedback for express codes whom I bought an unlock off only 2 days ago...looks like they're no longer registered? Either way code worked so not too fussed.....
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rtorbs said:
Just been on eBay to leave feedback for express codes whom I bought an unlock off only 2 days ago...looks like they're no longer registered? Either way code worked so not too fussed.....
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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if you had a look at his negative feedback, most of them had follow up comments by him which were removed by ebay. i managed to see one or two of them before they got removed, and they were basically things like "your wifes using the phone as a replacement for you lol", things like that. nearly all of his neg feedback had follow up comments removed.
was quite funny, but i think that it may be because of those comments that hes no longer registered. only a hunch mind you.
Greetings folks,
Got one of these codes and happy with it,
Used the code on Sensehero B5.1 and worked great.
ibnabatoot said:
no free way, unless you call tmobile and get them to unlock it.
the way ive unlocked 2 heros is by using express-codes on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HTC-Unlock-Co...698131?pt=UK_Phones_Software_RL#ht_1773wt_911
there are other sellers, but i can actually recommend this guy from using his codes.
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This morning I have used this particular ebay member and his price has dropped to £5.99 and I had my unlock code in less then 10 minutes and worked first time RESULT!!!!
Gavincol78 said:
This morning I have used this particular ebay member and his price has dropped to £5.99 and I had my unlock code in less then 10 minutes and worked first time RESULT!!!!
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Bloody hell,... BARGAIN!!!! I paid £4 for a turbosim and thought that was cheap at the time!? £6 for unlocking is amazing.
Hello *,
I recently bought a HTC Wildfire from a friend who had his monthly subscription renewed (Vodafone), and having Vodafone unlock my phone would cost 50 euro.
I managed to root the device using Unrevoked, but I'm not sure if I understand how the unlocking process works. If I have root, that means I have full access to all the files in the device, including the system files, right?
Isn't then unlocking just editing one file with a hex editor? Can you guys help me understand what should I do in order to get this baby unlocked without having to pay for a code?
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Hello *,
I recently bought a HTC Wildfire from a friend who had his monthly subscription renewed (Vodafone), and having Vodafone unlock my phone would cost 50 euro.
I managed to root the device using Unrevoked, but I'm not sure if I understand how the unlocking process works. If I have root, that means I have full access to all the files in the device, including the system files, right?
Isn't then unlocking just editing one file with a hex editor? Can you guys help me understand what should I do in order to get this baby unlocked without having to pay for a code?
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I believe there is a way to unlock it by editing certain file info on your phone, but it is complicated.
If you do a search on google, you'll find dozens of unlocking services for much cheaper than 50euro. I used one a couple months ago that cost be 18pounds (approx. 25euro) and it worked perfectly and was unlocked in about 10 minutes. I found other services for about half that cost as well, but ultimately went with the more expensive one because it looked more trustworthy.
Mtl Evan said:
I believe there is a way to unlock it by editing certain file info on your phone, but it is complicated.
If you do a search on google, you'll find dozens of unlocking services for much cheaper than 50euro. I used one a couple months ago that cost be 18pounds (approx. 25euro) and it worked perfectly and was unlocked in about 10 minutes. I found other services for about half that cost as well, but ultimately went with the more expensive one because it looked more trustworthy.
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The thing is that unlocking services do not work for me, since Vodafone changed the original unlock codes on purpose, just to be the only source of unlock codes.
So, the only option for me is to do it myself, or have them do it.
I am comfortable with editing files on the phone, but I don't know which files need to be edited. I looked into the source code, but I got lost.
So, again, if anybody can point me to the right files to edit, please do so.
Thanks.
I sent an email to Vodafone and the sent me the NUC code via email all they asked is for me to top my phone up to 20 gbp and they would deduct it from my account, which its now been 20 days and they still haven't taken it. It took 5 days for the code though.
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Thank you for your answers, but dealing with Vodafone is not what I am looking for. This is a hacking forum, right?
All I want is someone to tell me what files need to be edited. I helped a friend last weekend unlock a Samsung Galaxy S with instructions found on xda. However, I see that nobody posted instructions for the Wildfire.
I am sure that a lot of people are in my situation, and do not want to spend their money on unlock codes.
Thanks to all and please reply.
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Thank you for your answers, but dealing with Vodafone is not what I am looking for. This is a hacking forum, right?
All I want is someone to tell me what files need to be edited. I helped a friend last weekend unlock a Samsung Galaxy S with instructions found on xda. However, I see that nobody posted instructions for the Wildfire.
I am sure that a lot of people are in my situation, and do not want to spend their money on unlock codes.
Thanks to all and please reply.
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Come on, people. I can't believe nobody has an answer for this.
I'm kinda in the same position with you, i assume you are talking about vodafone romania (right?) i bought mine without a contract, but still it's locked on their network. Only way to get the unlock code is by asking them, but i don't want to get involved in that since i have a bad experience with their "unlocking" service or better said the time it takes for the simplest of tasks.
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I'm kinda in the same position with you, i assume you are talking about vodafone romania (right?) i bought mine without a contract, but still it's locked on their network. Only way to get the unlock code is by asking them, but i don't want to get involved in that since i have a bad experience with their "unlocking" service or better said the time it takes for the simplest of tasks.
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Yes that is correct. Somebody suggested a RUU but that only helps debranding the phone, which is not our case. Any other opinions? Anybody? I can't believe people are ignoring a fairly simple question.
I would guess that you run a higher risk of bricking your wildfire trying to hack the network unlock and therefore those in the know would be unwilling to share any info for risk of agrevation.
I Have not tried, have not seen any reports this will work for the wildfire and you try at your own risk, but I have seen reports for the desire that a debrand then OTA update without a Sim in the Phone will remove the Network Unlock. It should also be said however that you would run the risk of loosing root if the Update applied is then unrootable.
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I would guess that you run a higher risk of bricking your wildfire trying to hack the network unlock and therefore those in the know would be unwilling to share any info for risk of agrevation.
I Have not tried, have not seen any reports this will work for the wildfire and you try at your own risk, but I have seen reports for the desire that a debrand then OTA update without a Sim in the Phone will remove the Network Unlock. It should also be said however that you would run the risk of loosing root if the Update applied is then unrootable.
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I'm not sure what is the reason for which nobody is sharing any info about unlocking the wildfire, but I assume a lot of people in the know own unlock sites. And that says it all. I am pretty disappointed...hopefully somebody will guide me through. Bricking the phone is a risk I am willing to take, I guess otherwise I would't be looking for solutions on this forum.
DAN ROSENBERG HAS FOUND AN EXPLOIT TO UNLOCK THE MOTO X (AND OTHER DEVICES) BOOTLOADER!!!
Will he release it? Your guess is as good as mine...
Per jcase: Support to be added soon to "Sunshine" unlock app for Moto devices!
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Motorola support is yet to be added to the version on the site, stay tuned (and dont update your phones)
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DO NOT UPDATE YOUR DEVICE OR TAKE ANY OTAS IN THE MEANTIME!!!!!
EDIT 9/22/14: Unlock now available for Droid Maxx, Mini, Ultra, and THE MOTO X!!!
Find the tool at http://theroot.ninja
Cost is $25 per device. Works on 4.4.3 and BELOW, and *some* 4.4.4. You have to try the app to find out. You do NOT pay unless the tool confirms compatibility.
EcHoFiiVe said:
AN EXPLOIT HAS BEEN FOUND BY DAN ROSENBERG EVERYONE.
Sent from my XT1058 using XDA Free mobile app
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EcHoFiiVe said:
He officially unveiled it at the Black Hat conference
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samwathegreat said:
AMAZING NEWS!!! Thanks!!!!! I'm researching this now, and will post here as soon as more info is found. THANK YOU FOR THE HEADS UP!!!!!
EDIT: Confirmation posted to REDDIT, HERE: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2csyiq/
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Lots of interest in the Moto X forums.........none here???
Well, when I entered this thread my opinion was "WTF, again, what chance this guy has against Motorola cryptography?" BUT, why not? There is nothing can be gathered from my unlock code, except my IMEI (reverse calculate from the unlock token or database match - both of which are unlikely) which could be used by Moto to re-lock my BL but if they wanted to, they would've done it with the latest update.
I'm going with it!
Good luck, @samwathegreat
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Well, when I entered this thread my opinion was "WTF, again, what chance this guy has against Motorola cryptography?" BUT, why not? There is nothing can be gathered from my unlock code, except my IMEI (reverse calculate from the unlock token or database match - both of which are unlikely) which could be used by Moto to re-lock my BL but if they wanted to, they would've done it with the latest update.
I'm going with it!
Good luck, @samwathegreat
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Thanks. Keep in mind, we are NOT attempting to crack Moto's cryptography, as I well know that this isn't possible (in my lifetime, at least). Instead, we are trying to find if a single code has successfully unlocked more than one device. There isn't any proof, based on Dan Rosenburg's (author of the Razr M Bootloader Exploit) analysis of the "token validation" logic, that the code is based on the IMEI.....although it COULD be the case. This whole thing is quite the mystery - especially the "China Middleman" aspect of it.
Dan suggests it is based on the particular certificate / key / hash / q-fuses for said devices. And once again....this is ALL based on complete speculation (as I've stated many times (don't care to count how many). )
Thanks to anyone who contributes and thanks for creating this effort! I have a BL locked Mini and it's a 2013 version so not only can I not pay (he only unlocks 2014s right now), but I don't have PayPal and I don't have $45. Really, this might work and so please post your codes if you want to help people like me... we can never know if it works until we try.
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Is there a way to retrieve the code? I'm unlocked via the Tao bao site on the first go around. I used the IM feature on the site to communicate so I don't have the code in an email. I can't remember for the life of me how I signed on to look to see if it's still there. Is the code stored on the device anywhere once unlocked?
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Caseyk621 said:
Is there a way to retrieve the code? I'm unlocked via the Tao bao site on the first go around. I used the IM feature on the site to communicate so I don't have the code in an email. I can't remember for the life of me how I signed on to look to see if it's still there. Is the code stored on the device anywhere once unlocked?
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No way to retrieve it from the device itself....and I'm not familiar with Taobao (or how to look up a prior purchase from there). You can try searching your email (if you even received one) for your IMEI, as he usually included it along with the unlock token.
Aside from that, I don't have any suggestions. Thanks for trying to help though.
If moto x gets a way to unlock bl for free, it could help us a lot!
I just wanted to say "THANKS!" to all the ---jerks--- that are putting bogus info into the form.....like "12345", or the most recent "1".....yeah, thanks for the humor you're giving me. Including Mr. XDA username "a"...how original....
Nice to get a good laugh every now and then.....knowing I can simply erase your bogus data away with one simple keystroke... LMAO
Collecting just unlock code make no sense. I think that code AT LEAST a hash code of IMEI. Well it might be not a IMEI but serial number or what ever. They run hashing on security chip and verify the signature. The chance of two phones having the same code is veeeeery low. In another words you won't find equal codes, I know for sure. The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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Collecting just unlock code make no sense. I think that code AT LEAST a hash code of IMEI. Well it might be not a IMEI but serial number or what ever. They run hashing on security chip and verify the signature. The chance of two phones having the same code is veeeeery low. In another words you won't find equal codes, I know for sure. The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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You might want to re-read the first post...specifically here:
samwathegreat said:
Also, I'm not suggesting that I'm right about this, or even COULD be right about this -- I'm merely suggesting a POSSIBILITY. It is entirely possible (probable, even) that I'm completely wrong / off-track about this. I wouldn't be surprised in the least. In fact, I'm actually EXPECTING it.
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OK, sure, we understand that. Now examine the logic. Nowhere does Dan Rosenburg suggest that the TOKEN is unique to a particular IMEI, OR in any way validated or hashed against the IMEI. Only that it is based on certificates / keys / hashes STORED in the CID partition, and blown Q-fuses.
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samwathegreat said:
And finally, I'll end this post by saying that curiosity is very important to achieve any new breakthroughs. Making "educated guesses" based on analysis of available data is the only way to make innovations and new discoveries. It's OK to be wrong, as long you use what you have learned to build upon your knowledge and use this information to improve future analytics.
This is a hypothesis based on the [small amount of] data currently available. Nothing more.
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Dragon31337 said:
The only way is to get how they calcualte the code but that would be hard because you don't know what it comes from and you have nothing at all, not even IMEI or serial.
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Please consider that we have no interest in what you are suggesting....which is actually breaking Moto's encryption / master key. Based off my knowledge of key / certificate - based cryptography, I am well aware that even IF we had 10,000 VALID unlock token / IMEI combinations, it would STILL likely take -longer than our combined lifetimes- to crack the master key. And that's assuming you are correct about there being a correlation between Token & Serial / IMEI. Have you considered "q-fuses"? Moto very well could have blown q-fuses (identically) in more than one device...
Personally, I have no interest in -that-. I'm not seeing what purpose collecting the IMEI combinations would have, other than deterring people from actually participating in this because they don't want to share their IMEI...
So my questions really is: What are you trying to say that I haven't already? Self-admittedly, this probably won't work....said it more times than I care to count in the first post alone...
And finally, EVERYONE is entitled to their opinion, and I welcome to you "speculate" however you wish! Lets just please not clog up this thread with any more of it. This thread has a specific purpose, and I'd like to keep it at that. Thanks
Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
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Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
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Which doesn't apply at all to this device. That is for the RAZR HD.
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Many of the Motorola Users who have msm8960 devices unlocked their bootloaders using this method...
http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
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Which doesn't apply at all to this device. That is for the RAZR HD.
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That is Dan Rosenberg's method. I've mentioned his name multiple times in the OP, as well as his "Token Validation Logic".
Since the Razr M/HD AND the Moto X have the exact same SoC (MSM8960), his token validation logic likely still applies. @Topsnake is correct in that it will not work on the Moto X, but its because that method exploited a vulnerability in TrustZone to write to (blow) q-fuses in the secure area, thereby unlocking the BL.
All of this is described in the OP, but thanks for trying to add some useful info
Hello everybody. This idea is getting alot more interest in the Moto X section, and one user asked if we would be willing to share some details on the data collected so far. Here it is:
samwathegreat said:
Sure! I think everyone deserves to know the current status....
As of RIGHT NOW, we have:
86 submissions
of which 5 are completely and purposely BOGUS
and 2 sets (4 submissions) are -complete duplicates- and were posted from the same IP, within seconds of each other (I wonder if they really thought I wouldn't look at the timestamps / IP addresses?)
zero correlations
What I can also tell you is that IF the build dates entered are correct, we do have 3 sets (6 submissions) that have the same build date and are completely unique codes. This would seem to rule out the previously suggested idea that perhaps all units from a particular build date might use the same unlock-token.
Still need much more data to make any further (useful) correlations.
Hope everyone appreciates the update.... :good:
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Keep those submissions coming!
MAY I HAVE YOUR ATTENTION EVERYONE:
I've just received word that DAN ROSENBERG has found a bootloader-unlock exploit, and has just unveiled it at the BlackHat conference!!!!!!
I haven't verified it 100% yet, but if true, this is AMAZING!!!!
This means that until patched, we can all now unlock our bootloaders for FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:highfive: :highfive: :highfive: :good: :good: :good: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
EDIT: Guys, it appears to be 100% True!!!!!!
See the Reddit article here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2csyiq/
He just demonstrated this LIVE @ the Blackhat Conference!!!!
Hopefully it will be released soon for all the guys that missed the China boat.
sent from "my kungfu is stronger than yours" XT1080
That's great news. Hope it pans out for everyone!!
Sent from My Droid Ultra
OMG!!! this is GREAT NEWS FOR EVERYONE WITH A DROID MAXX ULTRA MINI X!!!!!!!
and its only a 3 page document (lol)
i hope he releases it to the public for free!
a new wave of unlocked BL are coming!
thanks for the heads up!
Having missed the China Boat as someone said earlier... This 2013 Maxx owner is hoping anxiously for this to come true quickly.
OK just for the hell of it I wrote lg asking for a bootloader unlock claiming that I paid full price for my phone and should be able to do with it what I want like if I wanted to throw it against the wall I'm allowed but if I want to install a custom ROM you're not going to allow me to do this so anyway here is the response I got
------Reply to Your Inquiry-------
Dear Mr. Shreve,
Thank you so much for contacting LG Electronics USA!
I am more than glad to assist you with your concern. Please accept our apologies for the misinformation
We understand you will like to be able to unlock the boot loader in your phone; however the boot loader is locked due to a carrier request and we are not allowed to either unlock or provide information on how to unlock the boot loader. This would violate our contract established with the carriers.
I am so sorry to have to disappoint you in this matter and I truly wish I had a more favorable answer for you.
Thank you so much for contacting us and for your time. At the bottom, you will be able to see a survey and score your experience with me. Should you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us via Email, Live Chat or by calling 800-243-0000. Thank you very much for your kindness and patience! Please enjoy the rest of your day and I wish you the best!
Sincerely,
Lorraine D.
Edit- I'm on the phone right now with Verizon trying to get a letter from them to give to lg to get the bootloader unlocked will keep you updated on how it goes I doubt if I'll get anywhere but I figured it was worth a shot
OK still on hold I'm being put thru to a tech support manager
This sucks. Hopefully here in South Africa the carriers have different opinions on bootloader locking on the international D855 variant. I'll try to contact them and any repose I get I'll be sure to post on here XDA.
OK still on the line with Verizon but the good news is that Verizon is actually calling lg for me to see if they won't unlock the bootloader or tell me how to do it fingers crossed
Robshr said:
OK still on the line with Verizon but the good news is that Verizon is actually calling lg for me to see if they won't unlock the bootloader or tell me how to do it fingers crossed
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So talked to Verizon for about an hour and they said it was fine with them but it was up to lg so I'm back on the phone with lg waiting to see what happens will keep you all posted
Will it was all for nothing just as I suspected lg said they do not have the unlock codes or even if they did they would not provide them
But her it was worth a shot nothing gained nothing lost
I just really believe it'll be solved in mid to late November. I just have a feeling (based on history lol)
shekinahsmoke said:
I just really believe it'll be solved in mid to late November. I just have a feeling (based on history lol)
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I hope so I just figured I'd give it a try
Thanks for sharing!
So basically the initial response you received by Lorraine of LG is merely lies as regards carrier requisite and the rest of it
nerdo said:
Thanks for sharing!
So basically the initial response you received by Lorraine of LG is merely lies as regards carrier requisite and the rest of it
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yes basically they're all lying about the bootloader I called lg back several times and they basically told me they have no way to get the unlock codes for the bootloader so I read back the email they sent me and they said the person was wrong for sending me false information .
I got quite irate and asked to speak to a supervisor which did no good at all because he didn't even know what a bootloader was I had to explain it to him he then said he'd check into it but no success
I just had to laugh that a supervising tech support guy had no clue what a bootloader was
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yes basically they're all lying about the bootloader I called lg back several times and they basically told me they have no way to get the unlock codes for the bootloader so I read back the email they sent me and they said the person was wrong for sending me false information .
I got quite irate and asked to speak to a supervisor which did no good at all because he didn't even know what a bootloader was I had to explain it to him he then said he'd check into it but no success
I just had to laugh that a supervising tech support guy had no clue what a bootloader was
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Wow - I literally went through almost the same process with Sprint this evening. A game of "It's Sprint's fault" followed by "It's LG's fault". Sprint then told me if I paid off my contract they would unlock the bootloader - apparently the whole time they thought I wanted the carrier unlock because they too had no idea what a bootloader unlock was. The supervisor said they could not unlock the bootloader and to yet again contact LG. LG finally told me they can't unlock the bootloader. Big waste of time but thought I'd give it a shot too.
I love this phone - it took a lot of root tweaks but I get amazing battery life, great photos and a lag free experience. However - not being able to install custom kernels or even make a nandroid is beginning to really frustrate me. I'm gonna be patient that our devs figure something out but this may be the last LG phone I buy. If they won't be dev friendly like HTC, they won't get anymore of my money. Not that it will matter because they'll still make a crapload but it's the principle. Lol.
Well I just responded inline with the first email lg sent me and started that I had permission from my carrier to unlock the bootloader so I'm just waiting on a response
Doubt it'll get me anywhere but what the hell
Robshr said:
Well I just responded inline with the first email lg sent me and started that I had permission from my carrier to unlock the bootloader so I'm just waiting on a response
Doubt it'll get me anywhere but what the hell
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That's how I looked at it - it was irritating but while I wait I might as well try other avenues. Thanks and keep us posted.
Lg will never unlock Verizon unless Verizon says so.Ask the Dev about this each g3 (Verizon) for example has different issues they are running into..Verizon has no fastboot,just to name one..The other do..Sprint from what I hear has done a great job on making unlock difficult. Bottom line Verizon, sprint etc do have contracts with lg,they ask certain things to be done and lg does those things if they want their device to be sold by them..
On an individual bases, take the letter from the carrier, stating it's ok to unlock, and take LG to small claims court. In most cases they may not show, and providing you have 'evidence', the letter, the judge may opine for you. If so the court will notify LG that you were awarded the case, and XXX in $. Once the idea catches on, LG may very well unlock the G3. This process works very well.
Once a win occurs, make a youtube video, and that will also apply pressure, and for others to also take the time to go to small claims court,
May not take long or many cases. Small claims costs are relatively cheap across the states. You may also serve them with a subpoena duce mecum (asking for XXX records). They may not have to reply, but on the occasion they do, the info could be very helpful.
I was just gonna kidnap some Korean and demand LG to unlock. Haha. Sorry for the distasteful comment. I opt and hope that someone unlocks it.
I ask LG about Android 4.4.4 and unlock bootloader solution. There are their answer (my translation):
You could be happy, we are going to release huge update for G3.
We offer this product in the safest condition as google recommendations.
So I wrote them again:
Yes or no question.. Do you ever unlock G3? (Nexus and Moto phones, HTC and even Samsung offer this ability so don't blame google. )
Their answer is really simple. No we are not. Thank you for your trust.
I dont think the bootloader will be unlocked at this stage, its looking much like the G2, the G4 will be out soon enough and this will be another forgotten handset.
LG's stance on an official bootloader unlock looks to be a pretty clear negative one. I'm amazed that even after creating two Nexus devices & working in close co-operation with Google for the past 2 years LG still hasn't learnt or appreciated the impact of the developer community. There is no Developer Edition G3 or Google Play Edition G3 in sight either, so I'm pretty sure they're not least bit bothered about working on the bootloader as such.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure we're better off waiting & encouraging our devs to work on the bootloader unlock and/or exploit rather then LG giving a solution. I'm positive it'll be done, and when it is, I'll gladly jump ship to any AOSP based ROM in a flash! (pun intended)
I for one would be very happy to have unlocked bootloader on my D855. But seeing from LG's perspective it is not wise, such uninformed newbie could make system edit and bork their phone and ask LG for a replace.
Only a few of my friends knows about bootloader, others dont even know what root is. So i guess LG just choose to ignore or even intentionally make so the bootloader is very hard to bypass.
The amz moto g5 bootloader can be unlocked now it seems, not sure if it's deliberate or just an error, also before unblocking the bootloader please remember that it formats your phone also voids warranty if still have
Any updates to this? When I enter my unlock data into the site it tells me I'm not eligible, any chance this has changed?
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Any updates to this? When I enter my unlock data into the site it tells me I'm not eligible, any chance this has changed?
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You can only try it from time to time. I don't think Moto will make a statement about things like unlockable devices. There was a short time frame when it was possible to unlock amz locked devices, then the website was down for maintenance and after that it wasn't possible anymore.
Sent from my Moto G5 Plus using XDA Labs
They are supposed to be permanently bootloader locked, even if you pay Amazon to remove the ads, at least that is the agreement between Moto and Amazon says according to rumors... although a week or two ago there was a window of a couple days where it worked, most likely a glitch that was caught. Seems to happen off and on, usually it's only a couple hours and the other day being 2 days long was almost unheard of.
acejavelin said:
permanently unlockable
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*Non-unlockable
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*Non-unlockable
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Lol... thanks and good catch. I fixed the original post to make it more clear.
i at-least hope this post helped some of you, if seems that it was indeed a glitch.