Which one is better? 6P or the upcoming galaxy S7 edge - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?

Better in what way? Because you're not seriously asking if a just released device is technically better than an older device, right?
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Samarth_17 said:
Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?
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If you have no issues with touchwiz and have the patience to wait for updates , the s7 edge hands down.

ataft said:
Better in what way? Because you're not seriously asking if a just released device is technically better than an older device, right?
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6P is an older device but it has great support on xda, plus samsung phones tend to get slow , my friend has a s6 and it is already getting laggy, but the s7's specs seem to impress me. Not sure about the rom development department tho because s6 doesnt have a great support.

Only way I'll end up with a Sammy again is if it's a Nexus. Son has s6 edge, still waiting for MM, last security update was in Nov... Never again.

I mentioned in another thread that I got to play with the S7 this week and it's blazingly fast and smooth, even more so than the 6P. The SD 820 seems like a real powerhouse and Touchwiz seems quite well optimised. In saying that, it's still Touchwiz and it's still totally locked down and you won't get updates for an age.

The S7 will have more developer support because it uses the snapdragon 820 and not just exynos like the s6.
Even than, I prefer the 6P.
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Samarth_17 said:
6P is an older device but it has great support on xda, plus samsung phones tend to get slow , my friend has a s6 and it is already getting laggy, but the s7's specs seem to impress me. Not sure about the rom development department tho because s6 doesnt have a great support.
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The S6 has an Exynos processor - probably one of the major reasons why Development has been lagging behind other phones - the S7 will have Snapdragon processors - at least here in the US - which should result in more development, but only time will tell for sure.
I have the Nexus 6p and will be getting the S7 - I have seen camera comparisons and I think the S7 camera has some advantages over the Nexus 6p - and while some don't like Touchwiz, Samsung knows how to make some incredible phones - it all comes down to taste. If you are an AOSP purist, stick with the Nexus - if you are looking for slightly better performance and a slightly better camera with external storage slot (up to 200GB) and don't mind waiting for Android Updates (they will be much slower than on the Nexus) go with the S7.
PLUS if you are interested in playing with the VR headset they are offering free VR headsets with Preordered S7's and S7 Edges.) that is a pretty cool bonus - and one of the things that got me so interested in the S7 edge.

Without getting into pricing, the S7 Edge hands down. I also played with it yesterday and it's an incredibly built phone that's fast and has amazing features.
Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
If you can afford it (since it's considerably more expensive than the 6P), then I would pick it up. The Snapdragon 820 is a very nice upgrade to the 810 and it has the build and internals to be future proof.

I don't care about the "specs" of the S7. Stock Android always wins. I'll be waiting for the new Nexus.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
Without getting into pricing, the S7 Edge hands down. I also played with it yesterday and it's an incredibly built phone that's fast and has amazing features.
Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
If you can afford it (since it's considerably more expensive than the 6P), then I would pick it up. The Snapdragon 820 is a very nice upgrade to the 810 and it has the build and internals to be future proof.
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I myself have just returned the 6P and I am planning on picking up an S7. I just got tired of all the problems with my 6P, as unfortunately I always got lemon units. the first one was bent out of the box, second one bent by the volume rocker, and third one screen was very pink, and I mean very pink lol. I still love the 6P for the short time I had it, and wish all who have the device best of luck!

I've been using Samsung galaxy phones since the 1st gen galaxy. No matter how much processing power and ram they put in their devices, the TouchWiz framework always slows them down over time. They performed best when using an aosp rom but that meant sacrificing battery life and camera quality.
The 6P has the best balance all around for the cost and it will be supported longer from Google and the Nexus community.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Almost every key factor on it is better than the 6P...removable storage, better screen, better camera, better soc, better gpu, better gaming with Vulkan, more ram (and faster ram), faster internal storage, water cooled, wireless charging built in, water resistant, better build quality, larger battery, better features, etc.
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What's all this about water cooling?
My contract is up for renewal and I like the 6p but the hardware issues have been painful (even more so since it's second hand with no receipt I can't RMA). Touchwiz is annoying but not as bad as it used to be and is pretty good on the Note 5 when I used it and hardware will always been excellent and only falls behind on speakers if stereo is a must.

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What's all this about water cooling?
My contract is up for renewal and I like the 6p but the hardware issues have been painful (even more so since it's second hand with no receipt I can't RMA). Touchwiz is annoying but not as bad as it used to be and is pretty good on the Note 5 when I used it and hardware will always been excellent and only falls behind on speakers if stereo is a must.
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While I don't know every technical detail about it, in a nutshell the S7 and S7 Edge are gonna have a small pipe with water inside to cool things down under heavy load. Not much unlike a water cooling system for a PC. I think it's awesome personally, and a welcome addition to mobile tech.
Regarding Touchwiz, it's not nearly as bad as the past. Samsung hardware is stellar and their software is quickly catching up.
If you prefer stock Android, then the 6P is a decent choice. Along with Moto phones. If not, the S7 and S7 Edge are super strong candidates.

Thanks guys!!! I am going for the 6P as i am used to stock android since i have a nexus 5. 6P is an all rounder i think!

WizeGuyDezignz said:
While I don't know every technical detail about it, in a nutshell the S7 and S7 Edge are gonna have a small pipe with water inside to cool things down under heavy load. Not much unlike a water cooling system for a PC. I think it's awesome personally, and a welcome addition to mobile tech.
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Ah yes, the copper cooling pipe inside is it? Now that's the closest thing to innovation we've had for a while with mobiles stagnating a bit.
Great decision with the 6p Samarth, awesome phone, just hope you get one of the issue free screens.

Samarth_17 said:
Hey guys, i am a little stuck here, i want to buy a new phone, i am having trouble deciding that should i get the nexus 6P or wait a little for the s7 edge?
Which one is better?
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can't answer this question.
It's like saying what's better my BMW or the new Mercedes ??

I'll always take the Nexus. Those geniuses in the Samsung marketing dept won't get me. Some of the features are great on the S7, but as far as specs go, I'm not going to be doing anything that will weigh down the processor. Also, if you're not comparing screens side-by-side 24/7, you'll never be disappointed with the 6P. Save your money and go with the Nexus. Can't beat the price for a high-end smartphone. Software (ROMs) can add any feature the phone lacks.

A few things will keep me with the Nexus 6P over the S7. First is the ability to be on Project Fi. For someone who doesn't use much mobile data, it is going to save me about $30/mo over my previous T-Mobile plan. The second is that I really like the 5.7 inch screen size of the 6P. Neither the S7 or S7 Edge have as large a screen. The last thing is that, as far as I've heard, the S7 won't be available with more than 32GB of internal storage and also won't allow for the microSD card to be "adopted" into the internal storage pool and thus it can't be used for apps. I have the 128GB 6P and so don't have to deal with the inconsistent ways that the microSD cards are being handled by various vendors or their flavors of Android. For me, 128GB of internal storage was the point where I could justify not having external storage, given the size of my music collection, which I want to have physically on my device.

Samarth_17 said:
Thanks guys!!! I am going for the 6P as i am used to stock android since i have a nexus 5. 6P is an all rounder i think!
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Congratz...wise choice! Enjoy the Nexus 6p badboy on XDA!

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Sell Galaxy S6 then buy Nexus 6P?

I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
I'd sell it for the 6p. The picture quality from the camera should be very close to the S6 and even though the exynos is the better chipset, touchwizz is still stuttery (as u claim) whereas the S810 Nexus 6P has been said to be extremely smooth/fluid.
Hi there,
When S6 released, I watched Galaxy Unpack live and I was very very excited. I was going to buy S6 but one thing hold me off. THE CLOSED SOURCE EXYNOS. And of course, locked bootloader.
According to DxOMark, Camera differences between S6 and Nexus 6P are small.
Camera Review For Nexus 6P
Camera Review For Galaxy S6
According to this, you should never miss your shots with S6 while you hold 6P's camera.
And what's the purpose of "beastly Exynos" when it lags in UI?
Comparing 6P to S6 and One Plus Two, for me 6P is winner for following reasons:
1. More durable body.
2. Stereo front facing speakers.
3. More active aftermarket development. Means a lot of cool stuff for 6P(Roms, kernels, tweaks, etc)
4. Seems like 6P has better battery than One Plus Two and S6 (Wait for GSM Arena's battery test. Those are the most accurate battery tests.)
5. Better screen that One Plus Two, however it comes toe to toe with S6. The only ones who complain about screen of 6P are PhoneArena guys, seems like they forgot to turn off adaptive brightness or turn on sRGB mode.
6. More stable and lagfree OS.
7. Fastest updates.
8. Using Android the way it meant to be used.
I would definitely recommend the 6p. I own an S6, and I can fully relate to the Touchwiz issues. All Nexus devices are made to give the user the smoothest, fastest experience possible. Uninhibited by 3rd party layers and skins that can slow everything down. The hardware and software are both high-end enough on the 6p to meet or beat the S6, so you wouldn't be sacrificing anything by switching. Also, you can't beat being first in line to receive security and other updates!
Read an article testing cell reception s6 and 2 other phones, no 6p but another huwei phone - s6 was horrible.
A couple have mentioned reception on the 6p is fantastic - which is supposedly a strong point for huwei (or however you spell it!) devices.
That would be enough for me to sell.
I've done just this, sold my S6 to buy a nexus. The goods on the S6 were very good - design, size, screen, camera. The bads similarly were very bad - software, ram management, battery.
Bloated horrible mess. So I have got the 6p now to try out. The screen is not as good as the s6, the camera is close but not equal to the s6 but the software experience on the 6p wipes the floor with the s6. I'd not hesitate to sell the S6 to get either of the new nexus phones.
This is my plan to sell S6 as soon as I go the 6P. S6 has been great so far, it took amazing photos. However, I really can't stand for the battery life. I basically has to put on battery save mode everyday. The touch wiz has been improved a lot, but it somehow still managed to slow the phone down after a while.
I owned the S6 and sold it for a Nexus 6P, im not going to ***** about the S6 because it was a great little phone. I just prefer a bigger handset and a better modding scene
Sold my s6 in July due to the crappy battery life, small screen and touch wiz.. It was a nice phone though
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In process of selling my S6. The battery life and junk AT&T and Samsung have on it is abysmal and battery is even worse. I shouldn't have to spend hours disabling and turning off features to get the phone battery to last more than a few hours. I actually went back to my Nexus 6 and the Galaxy S6 has been sitting in the drawer
shigi1231 said:
I have the same dilemna with the case of the oneplus two. The Galaxy S6 for me would have been perfect if it weren't for the damn UI stuttering of TouchWiz.
With regards to the specifications and software experience, do you think I should sell my galaxy s6 and get me a Nexus 6P or Oneplus 2? Opinions would be greatly appreciated. 2 things are holding me back, the beastly Exynos chip and the Camera.
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The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
clorbag said:
The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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What is bad about Knox?
luciferiusXI said:
What is bad about Knox?
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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Just extra crap you don't need to keep tabs on the device etc .like rooting against your warranty n such
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0 benefits of having it right?
clorbag said:
The exynos chip shouldn't be a reason to keep the phone. Its crap and locked down
No dev support and Knox... One plus 2 has its flaws with customer support and buggy software only advantage I see is the dual SIM . 6p is imho best android phone out.
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Odd that you would say this and yet I'm reading it on my unlocked, rooted, debloated, knox removed S6 with a custom rom derived from the development that doesn't exist using that crap exynos chip you mentioned that rides at or near the top of the leaderboard in nearly every measurable performance category. lol
Not that the concept in general doesn't have merit as the stock rom does hitch up here and there and thats a shame on such excellent hardware but there is no reason to kick objectivity and factual information to the curb.
To the thread in general I have the S6 and I'm getting this phone but I'll be moving on come spring. I love the Nexus line but I have never made friends with phablet sizing and I'll tire of this phones size after a short while just like I did with all the other phablets I've owned. It is rather irritating to me that my preferred size is the 5 to 5.2 range and this seems to be more and more relegated to the mid range but I'm hopeful that come spring one of the 820 offerings will come with flagship hardware in the 5ish inch range. Of course come next fall I'll jump on the N5/6.1P or whatever it will be called because I'll miss the Nexus line and its unrivaled support. I've owned all but the second, forget what that one was called?
One other thing that jumps out at me about the P is the lack of wireless charging. I'm completely converted over to it for ordinary day to day use and have pads around the house and holders in the cars and on my boat. I do like to have quick charge by whatever name for those moments where you need to pump some quick batt so one is not a replacement for the other. Not a deal breaker but it rides over on the con side for me.
Most of the other stuff mentioned here seems like advantage P or a push to me but the camera is still a question in my mind. It has been reviewed well but none of the reviews I've seen so far have mentioned much about its ability to take a "snap" shot. You know, the one where the moment is there and you take the shot or miss it because its gone forever. No set up, no time to make adjustments. The S6 is as good as I've experienced at that kind of shot. I can usually expect such a picture to be in focus and have reasonably good exposure and so on. Not art, not perfect, but pretty darn good. The P may be just as good or better so I'm not calling it out just saying I haven't seen any reviewers or users here talking about this aspect of the cameras performance.
Did I mention I hate that the flagship hardware is more and more becoming available only in the phablet sizing?

This or the nexus 6p?

I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
lvnatic said:
I'm getting tired of the horrible camera from my note 3 and really bad build quality, so I'm thinking of getting a new flagship phone and pass my note to my girlfriend.
At the moment, I'm deciding between the nexus 6p and the newly released Galaxy s7 edge.
I used some AOSP roms on my Samsung and I fell in love with them, the ui was incredibly smooth and minimalistic, everything was flying except for the camera performance and poor battery life because somehow touchwizz had better drivers. I would really love a stock android rom on the premium body of the 6p, but I'm planning to use this phone for a long time, at least 3 years. So I was wondering if the s7 edge wouldn't be a better option, since it has better specs and should be more future proof.
How is the snapdragon 810 compared to the exynos 8890? Is the exynos much better?
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I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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DroidBiteApple said:
I'm facing the same decision as you.
I'm used to the fluidity of the iphone...
I'm just afraid the nexus is too big for me, as i like typing with one hand...
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With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).
Had to make the same decision as my old phone died recently. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus 5. Now I ended up with the S7 edge. I think it is fair to say that the phone aim for a different type of consumer.
As I was at the university I wanted to have a cheaper phone, with a lot of customization. Also something I could "work" with, e.g. flash and modify.
Now I wanted to have something more "solid". I am not interested in flashing anymore, but something that is and looks like some value. With good camera and good performance (I did not notice the occasional lag nor would a frame lost while scrolling bother me that much).
Thus, I ended up buying the S7.
After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.
If you're using it for 3 years, then I'd go nexus. I'd get very sick of slow updates and TouchWiz in 3 years. The decision came down to this for me: Updates, development, and front facing speakers or nicer design, best specs available, and SD card.
Tectas said:
With just 0.2" more and a just slightly bigger bezel at the nexus 6p, there isn't that much of a size difference between the two.
When it comes to fluidity, sure both serve a great experience as well. I at least haven't faced any fluidity problems at my G935F within the 2 days I own it and I used it pretty much including playing XCOM and FF9 which both take nice load on the device (it even just gets slightly warm at those games, I only barely noticed it even while it was something I actively checked for). But it's most likely not that much different at the nexus 6p.
The 6p is when it comes to updates more future proof, because it will get them sooner and as it is atm a year longer than the galaxy family (nexus update policy is about 3 years, samsung is known for supporting devices for 2 years, on the other hand, by being mostly open source nexus devices can have a much longer update lifetime through the community and custom roms, galaxy devices as well, but escpecially at exynos devices it is much harder). On the other hand does the s7 ship with vulkan api support already, what is more or less the next big thing in gaming.
When it comes to bare bones benchmark performance, the exynos has the upper hand pretty easily (about 50% better overall performance at antutu).
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I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.
I had the Nexus 6p for two weeks before the metal case buckled near the volume rocker, google it, it's a common problem. I returned it in favor of the S7E.
On the Nexus I loved the fingerprint reader location, front facing speakers and stock Android but I wasn't banking on the hardware lasting 2yrs given that it started to fail after two weeks.
cnsviet said:
I feel like there is a huge size difference between the 6p and s7 edge. 6p feels massive now when I hold it whereas the s7 edge is much better suited for one-hand use.
Overall you can't really go wrong with either. The nexus does feel a bit more fluid when navigating / using apps but it's barely noticeable, and it will receive timely updates. The samsung has the better display, camera, and battery. I think the only thing I really miss from the nexus is the fingerprint reader on the back.
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Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...
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After having the 6P since it came out, I can say it's really not that great - I'm getting my S7 Edge tomorrow and look forward to using a much smaller phone, with a much better display and camera.
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This exactly. It's a great device, hardware wise. However that little size difference DOES make a difference. It's just a hair too long and wide to be comfortable sitting with in in jeans of any sort...and the stock android experience is nice, but a bit overhyped, at least for me. I also found it to be a rather plain, and boring device. Took GREAT photos and i loved the placement of the fingerprint sensor, but ultimately I let it go to get the S7 Edge.
One thing to consider, if you're not going to root it, go with the S7E. I had the Nexus 6P and I can't root due my work app detecting it (even with xposed) and it's just so vanilla that I got pretty bored with it. Even iOS seems to have more options than stock Android. The S7E has a ton of features baked in that are fun to play with.
If you can root though and install ROM's like PA, CM, etc... then the Nexus 6P might be the best way to go.
I sold my 6p the same day I got my s7 edge. To me they are both just as fast. After owning several Samsung and a couple nexus phone I can't believe how fluid and smooth the s7 edge is. As others have stated the 6p did feel a little bigger and harder to manage than the s7 edge. Both are great phones. I don't regret my decision at all.
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If you use your phones for 2-3 years, the S7 might be slightly more future proof because of the great processor be it SD or Exynos, plus 4gb of RAM that should account for at least 2 years of usage imo, and you get the SD card storage so you would probably need to get at least the 64GB 6P in order for it to be slightly future proof.
I've owned the 6P and the 5X so I'll pipe in on this as well. The 6P is a GREAT device when it comes to updates and having the backing of the dev community. If you don't like something about the user experience, you can bet there is something out there that will allow you to modify whatever it is you're griping over. I never had a problem with the hardware and the camera was surprisingly GOOD!
It is, however, a pretty girthy device. When comparing it to the S7 Edge, it's really not even a comparison. The 6P footprint is larger and much more difficult to use one handed. I found myself having to use to do some thumb gymnastics to reach the corners and I'd like to think I have some decent sized hands.
At the end of the day, it boils down to your preference. If you can stomach TW, then get the Galaxy. If you're #TeamStock all the way then the Nexus is for you.
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Sorry for OT, but what is as much better at locating it on the back. I really like it at the front, it's pretty natural to use the thumb to unlock the device while in hand. Maybe slightly less as while it was on the back with the index finger, but I get the ability to also unlock it while the device is lying on the table, what is a big plus for my opinion...
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It just felt a lot more natural in the back and the sensor is more accurate. Not to take anything from the gs7 edge fingerprint sensor which is pretty good but definitely not as good as the nexus.
Erhh.. Still cant decide.
Nexus pros are:
- faster updates
- front facing speakers
- cheaper
Galaxy pros are:
- beautiful
- somewhat smaller and easier to handle one handed
- larger battery
- water resistant
- optical image stabilization
I live in an area where we get the Exynos model...
I hope it will be as good as the snapdragon.
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I've owned both. S7e is a No-Brainer unless you want root.
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I decided to buy the nexus in the end.
Here's why: I will use it for at least 3 years, so the constant updates are a big plus. Also, even if it has lower specs then the s7, the software is much more optimized. No matter how fluid and smooth touchwiz has become, no Samsung in this world runs better then stock android on the latest nexus flagship.
And even if it has slightly lower specs then the s7, they are still more then enough for what I'm planning to use it for: Internet browsing, YouTube, Facebook, clash of clans and taking pictures (I read that the camera is great).
The reason I'll be using it this much is that the store I buy it from, here in Romania, offers the possibility to get 1 or 2 more years of warranty, aside from the 2 years the device already comes with. And if do I get extra warranty, it becomes premium warranty. This means: if my device breaks and needs to be sent for repair, they send a courier to my door to pick the product for me, free of charge and free shipping. And if they don't fix the device within 5 working days, I can get a full refund of the initial price. That's right, after let's say 3 years, when this phone will be worth around 200-300$ in used condition, I can get the full 570$ I initially payed, if they can't fix the phone.
I already did that with my nexus 10 after a year, then got enough money to get the note 3. My note still has 2 more years and a few months of warranty, in which time I'm 100% positive that it will eventually break.
The note goes to my girlfriend and I decided that I want a new phone, a premium one that I'll be using for a long time while I have the 4 years warranty.
If you can't afford an Edge, go with a 6P.
6p horrible batterlife

S7 vs. S5 What should I get?

I am switching from Verizon to AT&T so I need to get a new phone. Since AT&T doesn't offer Motorola smartphones, I have narrowed my choices down to the S7 and S5 (or maybe the S5 active). I have looked at the specs for both and they seem pretty close. I am not a heavy phone user, mostly just Facebook, email, Pandora, and a few games here and there. Also need a decent camera. Trying to decide if the S7 is worth the extra money over the S5. What is everyone's thoughts? Thank you.
P.S. I am not looking at the S6 due to lack of a SD card slot.
I would go for the S7. I just upgraded to it and i like it better (although there is no root, but if you get a new S5 you won't be able to root anyhow) the camera is 10 times better on the S7 i think (it's like looking through a window) the S7 is reportedly capable of reading the new 200gb mini SD. Overall i like it better (again other than root)
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I had an S5 for the past couple years. Decided to upgrade this week. It came down to the S7, S7 Edge, and LG G5. I love the concept behind the G5. The modular accessories are a brilliant idea. However, I don't think that's something I'm willing to jump into right away. I expect it'll take a year or so to get all the kinks worked out. So I came down to the S7 or Edge. Similar to the G5, I think the edge screen is a brilliant idea, but I still think it's gonna take some time to take full advantage of that. Plus, I'm not big on the phablet craze. So I ended up going with the smallest of the 3 phones, but still has the same CPU, RAM, etc. as the other 2. I figured it would fit better in my pocket and wouldn't be as fragile as I expect the edge to be with the curved glass. I have always rooted my phones, and the S5 was no exception. I pushed that thing to the edge and really liked the phone. I picked up my S7 today. And let me tell you, although I'm disappointed I can't root it (yet), stock right out of the box it crushes my S5 in performance. The camera is leaps and bounds better, as has been previously reported. Especially in low light situations. And the new Snapdragon is as incredible as the reviews imply. With the 4GB RAM. This thing flies as smooth as butter. But probably the biggest factor to me, is that it's waterproof without relying on that annoying flap and has the regular quick charge micro USB instead of the awkward USB 3.0 charging port before. It was always a headache plugging in my S5 in the dark, but the S7 has no such issue. I also think aesthetically it's a much better looking phone. But that's simply opinion. Though I liked the removable battery of the S5, the S7 back just looks FAR more refined. Especially in the Platinum Gold color I chose. The ONLY complaints with this phone is the lack of a removable battery and not being able to root. But it is definitely fast enough without root. But the quick charging capability compensates for not being able to remove the battery, and I expect some genius devs to figure out root in the near future. I avoided the S6 because they took away the removable battery, the microSD card, AND waterproofing. Even the Snapdragron last year sucked. The S7 is what the design change SHOULD have been. It's a nearly perfect phone
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I had an S5 for the past couple years. Decided to upgrade this week. It came down to the S7, S7 Edge, and LG G5. I love the concept behind the G5. The modular accessories are a brilliant idea. However, I don't think that's something I'm willing to jump into right away. I expect it'll take a year or so to get all the kinks worked out. So I came down to the S7 or Edge. Similar to the G5, I think the edge screen is a brilliant idea, but I still think it's gonna take some time to take full advantage of that. Plus, I'm not big on the phablet craze. So I ended up going with the smallest of the 3 phones, but still has the same CPU, RAM, etc. as the other 2. I figured it would fit better in my pocket and wouldn't be as fragile as I expect the edge to be with the curved glass. I have always rooted my phones, and the S5 was no exception. I pushed that thing to the edge and really liked the phone. I picked up my S7 today. And let me tell you, although I'm disappointed I can't root it (yet), stock right out of the box it crushes my S5 in performance. The camera is leaps and bounds better, as has been previously reported. Especially in low light situations. And the new Snapdragon is as incredible as the reviews imply. With the 4GB RAM. This thing flies as smooth as butter. But probably the biggest factor to me, is that it's waterproof without relying on that annoying flap and has the regular quick charge micro USB instead of the awkward USB 3.0 charging port before. It was always a headache plugging in my S5 in the dark, but the S7 has no such issue. I also think aesthetically it's a much better looking phone. But that's simply opinion. Though I liked the removable battery of the S5, the S7 back just looks FAR more refined. Especially in the Platinum Gold color I chose. The ONLY complaints with this phone is the lack of a removable battery and not being able to root. But it is definitely fast enough without root. But the quick charging capability compensates for not being able to remove the battery, and I expect some genius devs to figure out root in the near future. I avoided the S6 because they took away the removable battery, the microSD card, AND waterproofing. Even the Snapdragron last year sucked. The S7 is what the design change SHOULD have been. It's a nearly perfect phone
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Rooting is Greek to me. lol Not even 100% sure what it means or is. I have always carried my phones on my belt so fitting in a pocket is not an issue. My current phone does not have a removable battery either, but lacks a SD slot which I HATE. Does the S7 as the normal micro charge slot? I already have a number of those chargers and don't want to get different chargers. I will be putting an Otterbox case on whatever phone I get so looks are not very important. Thank you.
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Rooting is Greek to me. lol Not even 100% sure what it means or is. I have always carried my phones on my belt so fitting in a pocket is not an issue. My current phone does not have a removable battery either, but lacks a SD slot which I HATE. Does the S7 as the normal micro charge slot? I already have a number of those chargers and don't want to get different chargers. I will be putting an Otterbox case on whatever phone I get so looks are not very important. Thank you.
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yes it does. With the Quickcharge 2.0. I look forward to USB-C becoming the standard (it will even be used for laptop chargers. It will revolutionize electronics in time. But it's still young tech right now), I think Samsung was right to do the charger this way for now. Plus the new Qi quickchargers are incredibly efficient. Which is an added convenience I haen't even taken advantage of yet. Rooting, to put it simply, is giving the user access to the very base directory of the phone. You can use apps and features like ad-blocking and run custom operating systems with many features. The dev community created many features on rooted phones that we now see in the stock versions of Android years early. I don't believe Android would have advanced as far as it has so quickly without end-user devs rooting their phones. Rooting used to be very complicated compared to how simple devs have made it in recent years. But it was great. You could put custom kernels (essentially CPU settings) that would overclock it when running apps that need the power, and then underclock it when not. Features that are now included in the stock Android experience. Almost every reason I originally rooted my phones are now features baked into stock Android, so it's not as big a deal to not be able to root IMO. But I do still want the option at least. But if you have no desire to root, that's all the more reason I'd suggest the S7 for you. Running stock it is a BEAST. There's not even the slightest hint of lag anywhere using it. Though I don't know you at all, I don't believe you will be disappointed in the slightest by choosing the S7
After looking phones over a few days ago, I ended up with the S7. I have figured most of it out and still learning as I go. I do have one question though. How do I do a screen shot? It is not the same as my pervious phone. I looked in the manual, but did not find it. Thank you
just hold the home and power buttons at the same time
You can also screen shot using your hand. Go to settings, advanced features, Palm swipe to capture, and turn it on. It shows you how to capture a screen shot by swiping your hand across the screen. I prefer this method. It seems easier to me.
S7 is far better then s5.
I still have my rooted and rom'd S5, no comparison, S7 is in another league in every way.
I had a Moto X Pure (2015), which I naturally rooted and installed a custom kernel. A friend dropped the darn thing and cracked the screen and busted the touchscreen. I thought I would have been so incredibly disappointed with the S7 due to the lack of rooting and whatever Samsung calls Touchwiz these days.
The last galaxy phone I owned was the Note 3. I didn't have it for long before I ditched it for the original Moto X. Since, I've owned all three iterations of the Moto X. Leaving what was basically a stock Android experience seemed unfathomable. Nonetheless, it would have been cheaper to use an upgrade (which I had for some time thanks to me always buying my phones unlocked through motomaker).
I too looked at the G5, S7, and S7 edge. I didn't like the feel or design of the G5. Also, the 2015 Moto X was just too damn big. Thusly, the edge was out of the running. I left the store with a black S7. Holeesheet Batman, this thing is gorgeous. The jump from the 808 with 3gb of RAM (in the X Pure) to the 820 with 4gb of RAM shows tremendous performance benefits.
The leap ahead to the 14nm process behind the 820 simply cannot be physically beaten by the 808's 22nm process, even with stock Android or overclocking and all the other bits that can come with a custom kernel. Not to mention, the 820 in my S7 has 2 fewer cores than the 808 in my X.
I'm happy with this phone. It flies through everything. The animations in the play store, and other apps, are much smoother than any other phone I've owned. The camera cannot be understated. My girlfriend, who is a professional photographer, is jealous of the performance compared to that of her iPhone. It won't produce photos better than her DSLR camera, but she can't put her Canon DSLR in her pocket.
I could keep going, although I won't.
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I'm not sure I'd want to get an s7 unless its the 930f international model, I'm not a fan of quad HD on phones, I'm perfectly fine with 1080. My S5 and one plus one serve me well.
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Anyone here consider the oneplus 3?

Would anyone here with an s7 edge Exynos variant consider switching to a oneplus 3 and why ?
No way LOL
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NVR think of it
It is like a downgrade, not an upgrade. You lose the waterproof ness, the superb camera screen and the sd. You will only have 6GB ram (not all of them are actually usable. It is a placebo)
Its more of a sidegrade, lol!
It has some aspects that people would consider switching for.
Like the 6GB of RAM. AOSP support. Snapdragon CPU (maybe)
If its going to be like the OPO it will have a great development userbase. And alot of development roms.
Move from a QHD screen on the S7 to an old HD screen on the Oneplus? Never.
After reading Anandtech's analysis of the display on the OnePlus 3, it's a no-go for sure....
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review/4
TLR, noticeable pentile matrix (hello 2010), horrible color accuracy (worst they've seen since doing display testing on phones).
Of course, I use my Gear VR quite a bit so that immediately rules out the OnePlus 3. No microSD storage also doesn't help me.
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Surely not. Why would anyone want to loose the features that make the 7 series what it is?!
However, I am considering changing my P9000 for the OP3 but I am waiting to see if they can sort the display out somewhat first? - The P9000 has the best display of any phone I have seen
Its only the camera that could be better.
I hang on to my S7E until I see what Samsung come out with next.
The only good quality about the oneplus 3 is the unlocked bootloader and large development community. I've read the anandtech review and the screen seems like a big disappointment but most other reviews seem to think it's a pretty good one which is confusing lol
I'm looking for Samsung hardware with stock Android and so far this phone doesn't exist.
IMHO compared to the S7 Edge the Oneplus 3 is overall inferior in many hardware aspects.
Pros:
64GB internal memory
6GB RAM (but currently poorly managed without applying a fix...)
Type-C USB
Cons:
less LTE bands
worse AMOLED screen (and non-edge)
worse camera quality
worse flash and autofocus
no microSD card
no heart rate and SpO2 sensors
worse battery
worse fast charging (Oppo's based and not standard)
no wireless charge
no water resistance
and IMHO the Exynos 8890 is better then the Qualcomm 820...
Oneplus 3 price is attractive, but you get what you pay for.
However unfortunately IMHO the S7 Edge is still overpriced...
It would be a downgrade, I don't know anyone dumb enough to do that
i have ordered one. Lets c how it goes.
I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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I ordered one because my work pays for part of the cost. The initial reviews are ok. A firmware upgrade or rooting can help it be better.
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Apparently there's going to be an update that deals with the screen accuracy issues.
Had OP2, had nice specs, but in reality it sucked mostly because of the half cooked software. Even though OP seems to be fixing it with OP3 I will never buy from Oneplus ever again
If you consider the overall experience, for what I am in love with the s7 edge, let it be display, battery, software(controversial), the extra samsung features, VR, camera, aesthetics, stability (really important) etc , s7 edge leaves OP3 way behind.
Op3 is a great buy but a downgrade from s7
Nope
I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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I'm buying the OP3 as a side-phone to toy with Who knows, I might sell my S7E later on. Always liked OnePlus devices. I did skip the OP2 though, it was fail. OP3 seems polished and I've heard that OxygenOS 3.0 is rather good this time around! TouchWiz is very capable, but very heavy and feels like a bloated mess comprared to OxygenOS.
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keep us posted with your thoughts when you get the phone : P wonder how fast will oneplus be pushing updates this time.
No way! Such a downgrade und even worse software. But I consider upcoming HTC nexus, because of this typical samsung's software issue
It seems like a decent device. But the problem is that I already own and can afford my S7E. I don't see anything wrong with the one plus 3, and especially for the price.
But I wouldn't dream of leaving my S7E for it. Worse camera. Worse battery life. Screen is lower resolution, which isn't that big of a deal for me, but it is a con, for sure. The only pluses are the fact that there is no edge, which helps while holding, and the 6gb of ram, which is also questionable for the moment. No doubt that it will be the next big thing as well.
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From s7 edge to 6p

Hello guys, i just want to ask from users of s7 edge if anyone here before owned a nexus 6p. I have a s7e now (via contract 2 years) never had a 6p and im thinking of selling it because i feel uncomfortable coz of the curves, i had a g4 and it was really a very good phone overall. I tried holding a 6p and i can say it is really a huge phone (powered off so i didnt see the actual display and never played with). I am also fan of custom roms, as for the s7e the development is not going too far like the nexus devices.
So anybody here from nexus 6p owner that own a s7e now? How does it feel? Are you still thinking of going back?
I found a 64gb at 429 euro. Any suggestions?
I didn't own the 6p but had a close look at it before committing to the S7E.
It is built well but quite a bit larger than the S7E. It will surely be easier to keep clean than the Edge but if you add a case, you'll end up with a very large phone.
I didn't like the display. It is both dimmer and especially the whites were not as clean. I also didn't like the large'ish display borders.
The phone looks good switched off
The camera is reported to be decent but I wouldn't expect the same results as from the Galaxy.
Not water resistant either.
As regards rooting, you can root some of the S7's. Personally I have no problem with the latest touchwhizz. The phone runs like greased lighting and I have no need to root.
For me it was an easy choice to go with the Edge.
I also had an Op3 for a couple of weeks before selling it on. I would suggest that phone over the 6P.
switched from the 6p to the 7E and I have no regrets, the 6p is huge, hardly fit in my jeans' pockets, the camera was meh too (compared to the S6 I had before and to the S7E). Also I kinda need a SD card. I love my S7E, it's not perfect but I love it.
I have a 6p still and the s7 edge. Haven't turned on my 6p for 2 months now lol. Love nexus for pure Android but I like the display much better on s7 including brightness and the much smaller bezels and phone size in general. Actually I love the edge screen as Well.
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I have both, the S7 Edge first.
The S7E is my main device and the only real reason I have the 6P is because I managed to find it really cheap.
I LOVE the 6P.
It's much faster (obviously, it's vanilla Android), and in my opinion it's a better "in-the-hand" feel even though it's huge.
However, the S7E has a far superior camera, much better single-hand usage (if that's at all important), and a far better screen.
Don't get me wrong, the screen on the 6p is fantastic, but it isn't as bright, or as white.
I quite like the 6p, so much so that it's my "Spotify" device, as well as my travelling phone.
However, for me, the S7E is a far better phone for multimedia and for people who have little or no interest in modifying Android.
That being said, the Android N Dev preview on my 6p is great.
But yeah, the s7E wins when it comes to media and ease of use.
It has all of the gimmicks, but the 6p is smooth, fast and reliable.
In my opinion; it's just huge and cumbersome.
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I have both, the S7 Edge first.
The S7E is my main device and the only real reason I have the 6P is because I managed to find it really cheap.
I LOVE the 6P.
It's much faster (obviously, it's vanilla Android), and in my opinion it's a better "in-the-hand" feel even though it's huge.
However, the S7E has a far superior camera, much better single-hand usage (if that's at all important), and a far better screen.
Don't get me wrong, the screen on the 6p is fantastic, but it isn't as bright, or as white.
I quite like the 6p, so much so that it's my "Spotify" device, as well as my travelling phone.
However, for me, the S7E is a far better phone for multimedia and for people who have little or no interest in modifying Android.
That being said, the Android N Dev preview on my 6p is great.
But yeah, the s7E wins when it comes to media and ease of use.
It has all of the gimmicks, but the 6p is smooth, fast and reliable.
In my opinion; it's just huge and cumbersome.
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Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?
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Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?
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No, 6p is the same if not slower in fact.
Thanks
Thank you everyone who replied here.
I was considering selling my S7 Edge for a 6P or OP3 but after reading the comments here I've definitely decided to keep the S7. I use it like a pc and coupled with root and Xposed it's just daft! Simplest way to put it tbh. Fast, reliable and so many capabilities. Cm13 would slow this beast down, simple. Torrents plus USB connector and you're the guy sticking the latest media on any device pretty much anywhere too.
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I didn't own the 6p but had a close look at it before committing to the S7E.
It is built well but quite a bit larger than the S7E. It will surely be easier to keep clean than the Edge but if you add a case, you'll end up with a very large phone.
I didn't like the display. It is both dimmer and especially the whites were not as clean. I also didn't like the large'ish display borders.
The phone looks good switched off
The camera is reported to be decent but I wouldn't expect the same results as from the Galaxy.
Not water resistant either.
As regards rooting, you can root some of the S7's. Personally I have no problem with the latest touchwhizz. The phone runs like greased lighting and I have no need to root.
For me it was an easy choice to go with the Edge.
I also had an Op3 for a couple of weeks before selling it on. I would suggest that phone over the 6P.
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Agreed. I have had all 3 and would recommend the OP3 over the 6P. And I recommend the S7 Edge over both of them.
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if you love the 6p I recommend you to get the Alcatel Idol 4s..despite the low numbers, the snapdragon 652 outperforms the 6p's snapdragon 810..the idol 4s has the best speakers in the market as of now..the screen is reverseable meaning no matter how you pick up your phone, the screen will flip
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if you love the 6p I recommend you to get the Alcatel Idol 4s..despite the low numbers, the snapdragon 652 outperforms the 6p's snapdragon 810..the idol 4s has the best speakers in the market as of now..the screen is reverseable meaning no matter how you pick up your phone, the screen will flip
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Only if his budget is $400. Otherwise the S7 Edge would be the clear winner other than speakers.
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In all fairness, there was only going to be one choice on this particular forum.
Perhaps post a similar question on the 6p one. There have, I think, been some that changed to the 6p and were happy in the process.
Neither one are bad phones. Neither are perfect.
The S7e is just more perfect imho
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Only if his budget is $400. Otherwise the S7 Edge would be the clear winner other than speakers.
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specs wise? yes. the fact that the 4s is a mid range phone and it costs way less, it does half of the things the s7 cant do
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specs wise? yes. the fact that the 4s is a mid range phone and it costs way less, it does half of the things the s7 cant do
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What does it do that the S7 can't do? Other than speakers, boom button and upside down UI, I can't think of any. And I find two out of those three things gimmicks BTW.
And let's not forget about all the things the S7 Edge can do that the Alcatel can't do either.
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Exynos s7 is pretty smooth too, is the 6P that much faster?
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In my experience, the 6p stutters a lot less than the S7E, and I also have the Exynos UK version.
The S7E is a great phone, it isn't slow by any means! But perhaps the only reason I'm experiencing slowdowns on the S7E is due to it being my main phone; so all of my apps and their data are there..
However, the 6p definitely surprised me.
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What does it do that the S7 can't do? Other than speakers, boom button and upside down UI, I can't think of any. And I find two out of those three things gimmicks BTW.
And let's not forget about all the things the S7 Edge can do that the Alcatel can't do either.
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other than the speakers, etc? well those you gotta count if not then whats the point?
-stock android
-front & back speakers
-flashlight front camera
-reverseable screen
-360 degree images
-faster autofocus
-boom key
-fm radio
now as for the s7? let me do that for you and like I said..specs wise the s7 is better
-water resistant -which is a false advertisement
-slightly larger screen
-4gb ram
-wireless charger
-faster cpu
-better pictures

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