Mate 8 has Force Touch? - Mate 8 General

Found this on a german tech site with a video which shows force touch on the mate 8. Dont know if its really force touch or a emulation.
http://www.mobiflip.de/huawei-mate-8-mit-force-touch/
Because it has been tested with the app from the mate s i think its real.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-s/themes-apps/scalles-app-chinese-rom-c00b144-t3312275

Mate s has it, some version of it that is. Mate 8 does not have it.

cknorthpole said:
Mate s has it, some version of it that is. Mate 8 does not have it.
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Yes that is what i thought until i saw the article linked in the first post. I tested it myself and it seems to be working.

well, lets be scientific and do a negative control: try the app on a phone that DEFINITELY has no force touch, say a nexus 5, and see if the app shows anything at all it might just be that the app just accesses the display touch sensor and shows a random weight once it gets any feedback whatsoever...

I think it just detects how big the area is that presses on the screen. Probably the article is not right.

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i keep reading samsung is working on update

For GPS and compass issues, but never have seen any evidence. .. anyone got a link, I'd just like to see it with my own eyes instead of speculating. ... thanks
Didn't think there was a statement directly from them.
I think you're right that there's no official statement from them. I think it's just what people have heard from the tech support folks at Samsung (and now also from TMo).
i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
wrong thread. ignore.
stepinmyworld said:
i just spoke to a rep and they've stated that *there aren't any updates planned to be released by samsung* *if they do, there will be information on the website* i kindly told them that they need to fix the slow screen to screen scrolling, gps, error connecting when using friends feed and replying to someone
other than that, the phone is excellent.
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Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
temperbad said:
Try a game using the accelerometer. .. its extremely fubared. .. try doodle jump or hell a free one hyperspace lite. .. you will see how messed up the 6 axis motion sensor they tout is.
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Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
I just emailed Samsung about the issue, and asked them what the time frame of it being publicly addressed and fixed would be. I suggest everyone having issues do the same. I have not heard back yet, but will post their response when I do.
I also just got off the phone with T-Mobile tech support. They said they will not swap the phone out for the GPS issue, as it's a known issue and a different unit will not make a difference. They also had me do the keypad fix, (*#*#ect.) and it didn't give me any different results from the last time I tried it, other than the loss of signal I had last time.
I asked what Samsung has said to them about the issue and her response was there is no timeframe on when this will be fixed, but Samsung is aware for of the issue and are working on it.
Basically the same stuff everyone else is saying. 6 days left for me before I return the phone. I hope something happens soon.
beren28 said:
Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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On the contrare. . Try homering battle 3g. There you will see... after that you will no what I mean and every game using the accelerometer takes a split second to really orientate......
It is flawed. ..
Or try hyperspace again and pay attention... then close it and download android sensor data... open that app, now go back to the game and notice how Mich faster it moves and how Mich more it responds... another game is speedx 3d... so hard to control then open android sensor data and its smooth as butter...
Please check again, it works sometimes like the first time then after that you will notice slow response. ..
beren28 said:
Just tried hyperspace lite. Thanks for the suggestion. Its pretty cool.
That makes three games I have players that use the accelerometer for controls (also replica island labrynth) and so far I find the accelerometer to be excellent.
WAY better, or instance, than playing similar games on the wii.
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Try papijump..... notice how when you tilt it takes a second for the dude to respond to ya movement. .. then close it completely, open android sensor data and try again, its a lot smoother...... like the app calibrates the sensors or something...
We need more people to see this issue as not many people know about it... but I play games using accelerometer and notice its not right until that apps started first.
Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
eta: I have always sucked at these types of games on the wii or other phones, but I am doing quite well (comparatively) on the vibrant.
beren28 said:
Tried your sensor data trick. Not noticing any difference.
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OK have you tried homerun battle 3d? If you don't have it ill pm you... I need you to see this..... I know its there....
Downloading the lite version now.
beren28 said:
Downloading the lite version now.
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Cool. That should work... it may be smooth on try 1. But exit completely and try again, the shadow on the bat chops around and its supposed to be smooth.... then once choppy try that app again...
Thanks for testing this.. I've read others have same issue just no one really can see. This game should do it though...
I pmed you also..
Edit: if ya already opened that sensor app it wont play bad....
Must reset phone, don't run app, then try game, then when ****ty open app it'll fix everygame... but since ya opened it it will run smooth... must reset.
After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
beren28 said:
After completely resetting the phone, I am no getting what you described. Was definitely not seeing this before reseting, meaning something else I had done had "fixed" it somehow. No idea what.
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Its not major, just a slight stutter which in really meticulous games like asphalt 5 speeding around corners it will effect you...
But run that app after reset, even close it, for some reason now the sensor is flawless. Lime the app calibrates it somehow......
I was cool on all bugs till this, cause I'm a gamer, but luckily someone found that app in another thread, makes it flawless....
Its like first time ever playing the app, it plays fine, but then next time its wack... really strange. I can't believe no one else noticed on games like those, I notice the slightest weirdness.

Samsung Galaxy S 2: Multitouch

Seems,just like the mighty 10 point multitouch on LG Optimus 2X,SGS 2 also has atleast 10 points multitouch display
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i read a report somewhere... i forget where so i can't post a link... but i thought i read it can support up to 16 simultaneously
Err, did he forget multitouch tester, multitouch visualizer app in market?
Left comment on YouTube. Hopefully he tests it using that again.
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Funkym0nkey said:
Err, did he forget multitouch tester, multitouch visualizer app in market?
Left comment on YouTube. Hopefully he tests it using that again.
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What's going on with people today? This is the same guy who is posting here and accepting requests in another thread. No need to post on youtube
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048010
Saving 3g bandwidth
I was already in YouTube app. Posted there. He was responding there as well in his previous vids. Mesa on tapatalk.
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teh_pwnage said:
i read a report somewhere... i forget where so i can't post a link... but i thought i read it can support up to 16 simultaneously
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What 16 points simultaneously
android_master said:
What 16 points simultaneously
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it's not completely unreasonable considering the simplicity of touch sensors... if they wanted to they could make it over 9000 just for the lulz
can you guys explain for which purpose somebody will need more than 2 points?
and how can somebody use more than 10 in the same time? considering the fact that he is not mutant and he has (only) 5 fingers on each hand..
I could manage 11, depending on what I'm watching on the phone.
It's good to have an unlimited amount largely because you never know what's going to come up, but I can't see much use for more than 3 and that's going to be very rare.
drmz86 said:
can you guys explain for which purpose somebody will need more than 2 points?
and how can somebody use more than 10 in the same time? considering the fact that he is not mutant and he has (only) 5 fingers on each hand..
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Gaming. See even if you are only touching two at a time, its good to have device that can register more accurately. This means during fast movements and button changes you are assured that it will register even if you are touching somewhere else on screen by mistake. Some earlier devices had issues with tracking when fast movements / button press. Now that's not the case thanks to improved touch screens. Also those with large thumbs and digits don't have to worry about mis registering touch while gaming. It's all for better.
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Funkym0nkey said:
Err, did he forget multitouch tester, multitouch visualizer app in market?
Left comment on YouTube. Hopefully he tests it using that again.
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He did. heres his blog where he posted all 3 videos.
and seriously guys.. do we actually need to start a new thread when the maker of the video is in this forum and answering our question in another thread already?!
a simple search wouldn't hurt..
sckc23 said:
He did. heres his blog where he posted all 3 videos.
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as samsung supply the touch controller to Apple, it is natural to have such a good touch capabilities.

Touch screen quality compare to other handsets

I have been using the Atrix for a few months. Last week, I have accessed to a Samsung Galaxy S2 and have played a few games with it. The touch screen on the S2 is very accurate and precise. In comparison, the Atrix touch screen is inaccurate and sluggish, especially if you're touching more than 1 point. This has nothing to do with the 10 seconds timeout that Motorola implemented. It's just the responseness on the touchscreen.
Tell me if i'm wrong, but don't we already have a MOD for that called "Touchscreen MOD (8 points)"
I saw it in the Dev thread under various roms like Darkside and WetDream.
Try it out and see if it helps
Install 'touchscreen booster' in market and select 'Super Optimized.'
Seems to make a difference here.
Notorious544d said:
Install 'touchscreen booster' in market and select 'Super Optimized.'
Seems to make a difference here.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&feature=search_result
this one?
On a side note do have an idea on what basis this app improves the touchscreen? its good to know how something works too.
roflestomp said:
https://market.android.com/details?id=br.shop4apps.touchscreenbooster.com&feature=search_result
this one?
On a side note do have an idea on what basis this app improves the touchscreen? its good to know how something works too.
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Yeah that one. Don't know how it makes it better, but it works so who cares
Just installed. I have been having sensitivity issues along with the device acting like it is being touched along the left side of the screen.

low touch latency on redmi note 7

I wonder do anyone else face this problem?
When i scroll through things, it seem to lag behind a bit. I also tried to compare it with other phones and this phone seem to have a much higher touch latency than the others.
Anyone facing similar issues on this phone?
I have the EEA version of the phone and nope, no troubles at all and the touch is so responsive and smooth ?
The same problems here, Global version.
same here, global variant RN7
Chocorap said:
The same problems here, Global version.
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Mines global version too. Is urs 128gb?
AbboodSY said:
I have the EEA version of the phone and nope, no troubles at all and the touch is so responsive and smooth ?
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What's the EEA version? And have you tried to compare it with other touch monitors?
bbtee said:
Mines global version too. Is urs 128gb?
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Mine 4/64
Same problem. Very frustrating. RN 7 global version, 4/64gb
Yes, me too. Especially annoying when typing - keyboard is very laggy and driving me crazy.
I had the same feeling on my old crappy Mi A2 Lite. It was much better after switching to a custom Kernel (Butterfly Kernel).
Now I have the 128GB Global RN7 and touch responsiveness feels just fine. No problems at all.
what MIUI version you guys use?
some people who use miui 10.3.5 global rom have possible same problem with yours
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431079&postcount=7
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79445902&postcount=29
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79448420&postcount=30
sorry for my bad english
gnetumgnemon said:
what MIUI version you guys use?
some people who use miui 10.3.5 global rom have possible same problem with yours
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79431079&postcount=7
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79445902&postcount=29
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79448420&postcount=30
sorry for my bad english
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I have the newly updated 10.3
BJumperBR said:
I had the same feeling on my old crappy Mi A2 Lite. It was much better after switching to a custom Kernel (Butterfly Kernel).
Now I have the 128GB Global RN7 and touch responsiveness feels just fine. No problems at all.
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What miui version are you on?
So far, my Global Version 3 day old RN7 on 10.3.5 doesn't seem to have bad touch latency.
Was nervous about that considering this phone is my first Xiaomi device.
So far so good.
Have you all tried using the old Touch Screen Booster app? Not sure if the apk is still on the Play store.
Try the app if you can. It fixes a lot of touch sensitive issues without root.
Won't make your phones touch response iPhone level smooth but it will fix whatever ailments you're having
I have the RN7 Global and not facing any of the problems people comment about the phone... No lags, no video rec problems, no battery drain, none of all...
My guess: We would face palm us hard if we knew what apps some people install...
tiguy99 said:
So far, my Global Version 3 day old RN7 on 10.3.5 doesn't seem to have bad touch latency.
Was nervous about that considering this phone is my first Xiaomi device.
So far so good.
Have you all tried using the old Touch Screen Booster app? Not sure if the apk is still on the Play store.
Try the app if you can. It fixes a lot of touch sensitive issues without root.
Won't make your phones touch response iPhone level smooth but it will fix whatever ailments you're having
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I tried that and it doesn't work.
bbtee said:
What miui version are you on?
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10.3.5.0
bbtee said:
I tried that and it doesn't work.
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Man... Sorry to hear.
Is the app the one that's got the neon green color icon?
If that doesn't work your digitizer could be defective or the update to 10.3.5 could have altered how your touch input functions.
If that's the case, you could also try both touch screen repair and touch screen calibration apps.
Unlike SGS, they're both paid apps in the app store that should help improve your touch response without root.
I used both on my honor 8 and can vouch they improve touch latency response on our phones
tiguy99 said:
Man... Sorry to hear.
Is the app the one that's got the neon green color icon?
If that doesn't work your digitizer could be defective or the update to 10.3.5 could have altered how your touch input functions.
If that's the case, you could also try both touch screen repair and touch screen calibration apps.
Unlike SGS, they're both paid apps in the app store that should help improve your touch response without root.
I used both on my honor 8 and can vouch they improve touch latency response on our phones
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I also tried those and they say my original latency is around 47 ms, which is quite okay by this number, but it just doesn't really feel right. Everytime i scroll something, it just seem to lag behind quite a bit unlike other phones. Just tapping on things seems really fine though, no delay for that. And i also went to the store today and tested the demo there. I found out that the demo also have a similar problem. Can i conclude that this problem is not a defect for my phone?
bbtee said:
I also tried those and they say my original latency is around 47 ms, which is quite okay by this number, but it just doesn't really feel right. Everytime i scroll something, it just seem to lag behind quite a bit unlike other phones. Just tapping on things seems really fine though, no delay for that. And i also went to the store today and tested the demo there. I found out that the demo also have a similar problem. Can i conclude that this problem is not a defect for my phone?
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Not sure.
1. Are you also on MIUI ver 10.3.5?
2. Was your touch response ever working fine beforehand and the latest update broke it?
3. What other phones are you comparing the RN7's touch response with?
For me I'll answer:
1. Yes... But I find then touch response the same vs the prior version of MIUI that was on my phone right before it updated to 10.3.5
2. See my response to #1
3. I'm comparing the touch to:
IPhone 6s(which is still the fastest touch response to date), Honor 8 which was great but with the apps above, touch latency/response improved and Galaxy S9+.
I find Redmi Note 7 is slower than our iPhone 6S, close to my Honor 8 with the apps mentioned in the previous post and on par with the S9+ I played with in store.
I found that bizzare since AMOLED screens typically have faster touch response vs IPS/LCD etc.
What are you guys seeing?

Scrolling issue/lag

Is anybody else experiencing scrolling issues on their OnePlus 8 Pro?
I have noticed what feels like the touch input not being recognised so when scrolling up or down a page it just stops responding. At first I thought this was palm rejection related but it is not.
It is likely software but I am worried it could be hardware. Anybody else?
Yes, theres a few threads on here and in the OP community about it. No idea whether it's soft or hardware [emoji1745]
Sent from my IN2023 using Tapatalk
Sorry I did search on scrolling and got no results. I'll take a look. I purchased mine from Amazon so if there is any sense of it being hardware I'd probably return it while I still can.
Yes I have had this happen almost everyday I put to sleep and put back on.. loving the device for most part but that and then wifi calling not working ugh.
Ditto on the lack of response. Thought it was Palm rejection or even one of the Facebook chat bubbles overlaid on the screen while in chrome causing overlay issues.
Factory reset should fix
arsenal74 said:
Is anybody else experiencing scrolling issues on their OnePlus 8 Pro?
I have noticed what feels like the touch input not being recognised so when scrolling up or down a page it just stops responding. At first I thought this was palm rejection related but it is not.
It is likely software but I am worried it could be hardware. Anybody else?
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Are you on QHD or FHD, I switched to QHD and then back to FHD I had this issue. Rebooted whilst still on FHD and it's fine..
There is no benefit to be to use QHD, it's a 6" screen not 60"
Switch to FHD then reboot and test, should be fine.
Had this issue myself (chrome and youtube) Im using FHD only. Reboot fixed it tho
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Had this issue myself (chrome and youtube) Im using FHD only. Reboot fixed it tho
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I'm getting this while using Opera browser and using certain apps, it gets really 'sticky' scrolling if I leave the app it's fine but then comes back.
Restart works for awhile, do guys suggest a factory reset?
@wilpang I'm experiencing similar behavior. I suspect the latest update of webview to have a negative impact on this behavior. It seems generally an issue with HTML5 apps but I may be mistaken.
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@wilpang I'm experiencing similar behavior. I suspect the latest update of webview to have a negative impact on this behavior. It seems generally an issue with HTML5 apps but I may be mistaken.
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The latest update had fixed all that, no more sticky scrolling well for me at least.
wilpang said:
The latest update had fixed all that, no more sticky scrolling well for me at least.
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Interesting. Everything seems to be up-to-date for me. I will double check tomorrow. Cheers for replying so quick.
dladz said:
Are you on QHD or FHD, I switched to QHD and then back to FHD I had this issue. Rebooted whilst still on FHD and it's fine..
There is no benefit to be to use QHD, it's a 6" screen not 60"
Switch to FHD then reboot and test, should be fine.
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You sit 12 inches from your 60" television? Damn..
chetly968 said:
You sit 12 inches from your 60" television? Damn..
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????
What are your talking about??
dladz said:
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What are your talking about??
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You compare resolutions of devices as if you sit the same distance awayfrom a phone and a television. I guess you can do what you want but the higher resolution in phones is because you are much closer. So duh, anybody can tell a resolution difference when you're that close.
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Interesting. Everything seems to be up-to-date for me. I will double check tomorrow. Cheers for replying so quick.
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Yeah no probs, what is your current software version?
I'm on 10.5.10 International version.
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Yeah no probs, what is your current software version?
I'm on 10.5.10 International version.
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10.5.8.IN11BA
Where did you get 10.5.10?
Oxygen updater doesn't show any newer versions.
edit: nvm Oxygen updater was set to OnePlus 6, my old device.
I was able to update to 10.5.9 EU and will check to see if this fixed it.
Razwer said:
10.5.8.IN11BA
Where did you get 10.5.10?
Oxygen updater doesn't show any newer versions.
edit: nvm Oxygen updater was set to OnePlus 6, my old device.
I was able to update to 10.5.9 EU and will check to see if this fixed it.
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Came up as normal on as new software update, probably to disable the Photochrome filter.
chetly968 said:
You compare resolutions of devices as if you sit the same distance awayfrom a phone and a television. I guess you can do what you want but the higher resolution in phones is because you are much closer. So duh, anybody can tell a resolution difference when you're that close.
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Wtf are you on about???? It's a six inch screen. You cannot tell the difference between FHD and QHD, don't talk crap by saying you can.
Even if it's marginaly sharper to the eye, it does not merit the loss in battery life.
There TV analogy has nothing to do with how far your are from it, you said that not me.
Jesus.
The current update for the One Plus 8 Pro's changelog has stated to improve the performance by apps dropping down from 120Hz to 75Hz. Is it true for everyone with the latest update? I think it should force stay at 120Hz for a overall excellent experience.

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