Hello,
I was disappointed by the lack of GS6 for SD slot and battery... So, I bought a LG G4, it was a good phone but it is not developper friendly, so I want to return to Sammy and buy the GS7. But, one thing is not clear for me: What is the best variant for custom roms?? Exynos variant or Snapdragon variant?
Thank you very much and sorry for my bad english
Well I'm running the Note 4 and that has the Snapdragon 805 chip. And from what I read the S7 will have the Snapdragon 820 chip. And I think the Snapdragon is easier to root and make custom ROMS than the Exynos .
The reports all suggest both SD 820 & Exynos; which variant will depend on where you live. Here in USA it sounds like the 820 will be the offering. Almost certainly, the 820 version will have far greater developer support. Even if the Exynos outperforms the 820, it will probably be close enough that a well done ROM could make up the difference.
I did read that in Europe we will have the exynos version. I saw on many forums of Samsung devices that exynos variants have as much custom roms as SD variants... The note 4 exynos, the s6, the s4... etc
sayou94 said:
I did read that in Europe we will have the exynos version. I saw on many forums of Samsung devices that exynos variants have as much custom roms as SD variants... The note 4 exynos, the s6, the s4... etc
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Surely this is not true. The s6 doesn't have any fully functional aosp roms does it?
relax24 said:
Surely this is not true. The s6 doesn't have any fully functional aosp roms does it?
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No. Very limited.
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The Snapdragon vs. the Exynos ?
What is the support path ?
We've seen it on previous phone (I9500 vs. I9505 for example)
Would love get some insight as it would also provide help in buying decisions.
Snapdragon [emoji106]tmobile [emoji7] bliss.
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Too early to call, but it has been a "tradition" that the Snapdragon model will be the more widely distributed model. The Exynos model DOES come with LTE now, so that tradition might change, but it only supports CAT4 instead of CAT6 like on the Snapdragon model. I am THINKING that again the Snapdragon model will be the more popular one so that will be the one that devs will support.
I guess more of exynos as we've seen in note 123
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Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.
mircury said:
Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.
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That is because Qualcomm has better documentation and Samsung refuses to provide the needed resources for developers. So it will moat likely be the Qualcomm gets the most which will still be limited as most developers are staying away from Samsung all together
Andrilux is buying Note 4 with the Exynos inside.
Hey,
Samsung released the Note 4
but with different versions (about 7)
by using two processors {Snapdragon 805} and {Exynos}
Samsung did not explain what is the difference !
the only one thing we know is Snapdragon supporting CAT6 on LTE networks, Exynos just supporting CAT4
but in some reviews they find another difference
1. Battery drain on Exynos
2. Camera of Snapdragon version using "IMX240" sensor (Developed by Sony)
Exynos version using "SLSI_S5K2P2" (Developed by Samsung)
is that really !
why samsung did not mentioned this
and which is better SnapDragon or Exynos ?!
A0_o said:
Hey,
Samsung released the Note 4
but with different versions (about 7)
by using two processors {Snapdragon 805} and {Exynos}
Samsung did not explain what is the difference !
the only one thing we know is Snapdragon supporting CAT6 on LTE networks, Exynos just supporting CAT4
but in some reviews they find another difference
1. Battery drain on Exynos
2. Camera of Snapdragon version using "IMX240" sensor (Developed by Sony)
Exynos version using "SLSI_S5K2P2" (Developed by Samsung)
is that really !
why samsung did not mentioned this
and which is better SnapDragon or Exynos ?!
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You are not exactly correct. The camera on snapdrsgon and exynos is the same. You may have read a thread stating that they are different. But on the same forumn they concluded its the same. But the exynos version just somehow shoowed a different sensor name. And some exynos varients do support cat 6 lte. So your point of categorising snapdragon and exynos by their connection type is also wrong. The n910k (which is exynos) has cat 6. As well as n910U (exynos again) which is confirmed by new zealand users. Find the forumn in general section
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You are not exactly correct. The camera on snapdrsgon and exynos is the same. You may have read a thread stating that they are different. But on the same forumn they concluded its the same. But the exynos version just somehow shoowed a different sensor name. And some exynos varients do support cat 6 lte. So your point of categorising snapdragon and exynos by their connection type is also wrong. The n910k (which is exynos) has cat 6. As well as n910U (exynos again) which is confirmed by new zealand users. Find the forumn in general section
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what about battery drain on Exynos ?!
check this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQKLOrAU4E
A0_o said:
what about battery drain on Exynos ?!
check this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoQKLOrAU4E
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He stated that his exynos version was a korean version. Most likely the 910K which doesnt support most of the US gsm lte bands. If the phone has to keep searching for signal. It will drain battery. Low signal is also well known to be a major battery drainer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2915022 here is also many people with snapdragon version complaing with bad battery. As well as snapdragon vs exynos thread. In that thread a few pages back. Someone stated with exact same useage the exynos version had better battery. Which makes sense. As it uses 22nm technology compared to the 28nm? Newer and more efficient just do a bit more digging. Im still waiting for a actual side by side battery comparison to go on before i decide to buy one. Hope it helped. I guess we r on the same boat
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Dears ,
After using the S5 Dual SIM for a month now , i am not satisfied as battery isn't that good and i don't feel that the device is good enough , after using the G2 for a while it's very hard to move to another phone
so i am thinking in selling the S5 and get a Note 4 as i was alwyas a fan of Note family and owned Note 2 & Note 3 and they was one of the best i ever used .
But confused , Which one shall i get the Snapdragon or Exynos ?! the Exynos supposed to be 64-bit but it was disabled in Kitkat and can't find info if it was enabled with the Lollipop update or not
we always choose the Snapdragon because it's supported more than the Exynos , but it's not the issue for me all i care about the performance in general which is better ?!
So please advise which one shall i go for ?!
Thanks
MohamedYousri said:
Dears ,
After using the S5 Dual SIM for a month now , i am not satisfied as battery isn't that good and i don't feel that the device is good enough , after using the G2 for a while it's very hard to move to another phone
so i am thinking in selling the S5 and get a Note 4 as i was alwyas a fan of Note family and owned Note 2 & Note 3 and they was one of the best i ever used .
But confused , Which one shall i get the Snapdragon or Exynos ?! the Exynos supposed to be 64-bit but it was disabled in Kitkat and can't find info if it was enabled with the Lollipop update or not
we always choose the Snapdragon because it's supported more than the Exynos , but it's not the issue for me all i care about the performance in general which is better ?!
So please advise which one shall i go for ?!
Thanks
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They did not add 64-bit support in Lollipop on the Exynos note 4 and probably will never do since the S6 will be their first flagship that will support it...
get the one you want it doesn't really matter much...
exynos may offer better benchmark performance(+1-2k in antutu, that's what some exynos owners are claiming anyway) but they don't have Cyanogenmod/AOSP nor they will have it any time soon. which means you'll basically be stuck with touchwiz based roms forever. if you don't care about it then go for the exynos but as an android lover myself I love the fact that I can just flash whatever I want when I want.
Take a look at reviews and make your choice: http://anandtech.com/show/8718/the-samsung-galaxy-note-4-exynos-review
Basically if you dont give a s**t about custom ROMs (like me) and would rather choose better performance (and similar architecture to the future S6) pick the Exynos.
If you care about performance you must go for the Exynos.
Get which ever is in your country and carrier, unless you plan on running benchmarks all day, it really doesn't matter which you get.
Allow me to steal your thread for a second. I'm also interested, and I found a pretty good deal for a refurbished AT&T N4.
I do care about performance, but I care more about rooting and being able to install custom roms.
What's the best model for that?
Thanks!
fedecape said:
Allow me to steal your thread for a second. I'm also interested, and I found a pretty good deal for a refurbished AT&T N4.
I do care about performance, but I care more about rooting and being able to install custom roms.
What's the best model for that?
Thanks!
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Both have root and custom roms, unless you want CM12 now I would go for the Exynos.
Lodix said:
Both have root and custom roms, unless you want CM12 now I would go for the Exynos.
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Can you confirm that this > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c97776e2a#viTabs_0
can be rooted?
Thanks!
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Both have root and custom roms, unless you want CM12 now I would go for the Exynos.
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Can you confirm that this > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c97776e2a#viTabs_0
can be rooted?
Thanks!
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ATT Note 4 does not have custom ROMS or even root for that matter.
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Can you confirm that this > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c97776e2a#viTabs_0
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I was talking about international models, sorry.
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ATT Note 4 does not have custom ROMS or even root for that matter.
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I was talking about international models, sorry.
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Thank you guys. Other than the AT&T model, what is the best model to use on AT&T with LTE? Of course, with root and custom roms.
Thanks!
fedecape said:
Thank you guys. Other than the AT&T model, what is the best model to use on AT&T with LTE? Of course, with root and custom roms.
Thanks!
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I wish I knew. I wanted to order one real fast today with overnight shipping from Amazon to use while my Nexus 6 is being replaced but there are so many models its confusing. I literally want the exact same thing you are asking for, ATT LTE with an unlocked bootloader and custom ROMs. :crying:
SnapDragon FTW !
Still confused throw Note 4 models !! i don't know why Samsung do that !!! S H F !! What the hell is that
What's the difference between Snapdragon versions to to have 2 models !! F and S
What's the difference between Exynos versions to to have 2 models !! C and H
!!!
Exynos 910C LTE, 910H UMTS model, Snapdragon 910F international model, the S i don't now. Bye the way i would buy the Exynos again. It simply has the newer, better soc. It keeps cooler and runs stays longer fast. Snapdragon is throttling more often.
What is the best one to get in the UK? I'm on EE network if that matters and I need 4g/LTE
Thanks
Edit-also worth noting that I will want to be able to root and uproot if I need to use Samsung warranty down the road.
any one here with 910C version can give me his feedback about the device ?!
Had both the F and C models. Exynos is faster and cooler, Snapdragon is a little bit better on battery. As I charge my phone every night, I choose speediness over 30-45mins of extra SOT time.
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Had both the F and C models. Exynos is faster and cooler, Snapdragon is a little bit better on battery. As I charge my phone every night, I choose speediness over 30-45mins of extra SOT time.
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Thanks for your feedback
is the phone still comes with the region lock ??!! as i am considering getting the device from other country due to the huge difference in price
can u post a photo for the c version box if it has the region lock sticker
thanks
So I'm thinking of buying a used Note 3 because my old Note 2 died and I have a few questions. (Please answer them in order)
1)What are the different versions of the Note 3 (IK that the 4G is the snapdragon model and the exynos model is the normal note 3, am i missing something?)
2)Is there still support for both of the models?
3)Which model has better development support?
4)Does the Exynos model have AOSP support or only TW?
5)Is there any ROM for the Exynos model with S6 and/or Note 4 features?
Thanks a lot in advance!
1- there are many. But yes these 2 are main.
2- from sanmsung? Barley. Devs? All you want.
3- SM-N9005
4-both i think
5-look at development forums for note 3 and you will see.
I recommend snapdragon SM-N9005 due to better dev support here. Some great custom roms it has here.
kenny1991 said:
1- there are many. But yes these 2 are main.
2- from sanmsung? Barley. Devs? All you want.
3- SM-N9005
4-both i think
5-look at development forums for note 3 and you will see.
I recommend snapdragon SM-N9005 due to better dev support here. Some great custom roms it has here.
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Thanks! I'm happy that the community still cares about this device! I will try to get the snapdragon version but I would love if more people answered my questions so i can learn the opinions!
1- There are two versions only, hardware wise. Snapdragon and Exynos. But there are probably a zillion version for US carriers, about which I have least interest. In any case, all of them have either SD or Exynos.
2- Snapdragon, yes, Exynos, very minimal. But yes, it's great to see that some new stuffs are cooked for this old champ. But I don't think people will be interested in Note 3 for any longer, as soon as Note 5 goes official, you can think support will be near nil.
3- Snapdragon.
4- As far as I have noticed, I think there is CM for Exynos devices, don't take my word for it though.
5- No idea.
In short, get the Snapdragon version if you can.
1) The main two versions are the Snapdragon (N9005) and Exynos (N900) variant. Everything else is one of those two for a different region or provider.
2)From Samsung, the usual. (meaning, barely.). From the devs here at XDA, plenty.
3) Snapdragon always has better dev support.
4) no idea.
5) no idea, either. Sorry.
Technically the N9005 4G is the 'normal' device. Or international, or whatever they're calling it this week. This is due to the majority of the countries now having 4G. (it was the other way around 5 years ago.) The N900 3G Exynos was meant for lower-level markets that don't have 4G yet.
Keep in mind that the Snapdragon device comes with an Adreno, and the Exynos has a Mali gpu. As well as the Snapdragon having 2.3gHz, and the Exynos a meagre 1.9gHz processor. So if you intend to game on it, Adreno/Snapdragon is the way to go.
Always go for the Snapdragon version if you have the option.
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Thanks a lot everyone!
I am currently owning the Galaxy S6 but I really want to sell it and buy the s7 just because i want to use microsdcards again and whatherproofness is also very cool for me
so something what i really care about is development for the device wich i will buy...
i am pritty sure that the Qualcomm S7 will get Cm builds maybe also official builds but i live in germany where the Qualcomm variant is not sold. so i will need to stick with the exynos version.
the galaxy s6 also has CM aviable with its exynos processor... since now all Galaxy S (exynos) devices got cm in any time:
- Galaxy S2
- Galaxy S3
- Galaxy S4 exynos
- Galaxy S5 exynos (very buggy build tho)
- Galaxy S6
what do u think about cm on Galaxy S7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/how-to/developer-discussion-custom-kernels-t3338351
No custom kernel thus far.
BTW, S2~6 are official builds?
From what I gather, Samsung has nearly zero motivation to contribute to open source and custom roms, unlike Motorola, Sony, HTC, etc. Which makes it kinda hard for devs to support their phones.
If you have an inside contact at Samsung, by all means let them know.
It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.
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It has been discussed on so many topics already... CM (or any aosp type of rom for that matter) is pretty much impossible on the Exynos, even if someone gets something to boot, it will always be super broken and full of bugs. As for the Snapdragon variant.. CM should be very possible I guess but the problem is, it seems like every variant that comes with the snapdragon cpu has their bootloaders locked to hell... so... Until someone figures out a way to unlock the bootloaders... No luck there either. If your reason for buying an S7 is development and AOSP projects... I suggest you buy some other phone.
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the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me
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the fact ist that they have said the same for galaxy s3 exynos and galaxy s6 exynos
both have pritty much stable builds.
i am using aosp or cm roms only when the phone gets outdated and getting no update from samsung.
so this isnt that important to me
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* What’s working */
Basic 2D graphics
Wi-Fi
AP hotspot
Audio
Microphone
SMS/MMS/Mobile Data(3G, LTE)
Call
Sensors
NFC
LED(WIP)
MTP
Suspend(deep-sleep)
/* What’s not working */
Camera
GPS
Hardware accelerated video/audio encoding/decoding
Proper 3D graphics
Listing network operator
Everything else.
Even what’s listed on “What’s working” has room to improve and may have some serious bugs.
With 2D graphics, there are noticeable framedrops and tearing
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is that your idea of stable?
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is that your idea of stable?
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no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it
<galaxylove> said:
no but the rom is at least useable...
the galaxy s3 has very good dev support this is clear...
they said also for both devices that it is fully impossible. but actually the devs made it
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no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants
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no it's not usable, sorry. even 2D graphics are broken in it. Unless Samsung has a change of heart and releases the full source for Exynos phones, forget it. And Samsung having is a change of heart is never gonna happen since almost all their customers don't care about root/custom Roms. The only hope is someone figuring out how to unlock the bootloaders on the Qualcomm variants
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This is the problem every year with Samsung phones. It is not Samsung Mobile division that does not release the Exynos sources, there are other divisions of Samsung which will simply not allow the Exynos sources to be released (for newer devices)
http://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-exynos-and-aosp-explained-a-story-of-betrayal/
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Best bet would be someone found a hack on Snapdragons to root the phones and then install custom ROM.
For Exynos I think we can safely say goodbyes. Anything else is wishful thinking. Sorry to say that but I think that's true. (or you can start a 100-day hunger strike in front of the Samsung HQ and see how it goes.)
I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....
007zzz said:
I am a student from china but now I study in germany and get the SD820 version from china....
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I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.
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I would get the Mi5, its has already an rather stable CM13 out.
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Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.
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Mi5 doesn't have microSD card and uses Type-C cables.
Not to mention that the radio firmware is probably bugged by the Chinese government.
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It has 128 GB internal storage and Type C cables thats an plus in my book.
I have this feeling where i really just like sansumg's phones hardware and in special it's new look, but then is the fact that my S5(exynos) still stuck in 5.0 bugged as hell rom and there still no 6.0. The Qualcomm counter part have great CM support but there still nothing for the S7.
I will probably have to get either a nexus(2016) or a Huawei p9 which looks really nice too, also I'm thinking about the HTC 10 mmm.