Turbo 2 vs moto x pure. - Droid Turbo 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm a 2013 moto x user looking to upgrade. I should want the moto x pure for its better update support and unlocked bootloader. But honestly the Droid turbo 2 is looking better. I hate big phones and love amoled so the turbo 2's slightly smaller more durable screen seems like a better bet. The added battery life and wireless charging would also be great for me.
Has anyone owned or used both devices? How does the screen and size compare between the two? Reviews lean strongly in favor of the moto x, but there have also been a lot of posts about how fragile it is.
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I used both for about two weeks each. First, Turbo 2 has much better battery life. Moto active display drains battery like crazy on Pure's LCD. Another problem was that LCD looks washed out if compare with AMOLED and requires higher brightness to get similar quality and then drains battery even more. Pure has better screen/body ratio, gorrila glass instead of plastic but breakable... Turbo 2 has better SoC, not really noticeable in daily use. Rest is about the same.
After testing both, I bought Moto X Force. As you may know, the same device as Turbo 2 just for non Verizon networks, unlockable bootloader, no bloatware, etc. Right now charging Force on Samsung wireless charger.
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I as well have used both. I went with the MXP just due to my Force having a defective screen and moto refusing to replace it. While battery is way better on Force/T2, my MXF easily gets me through the day, and I am at about 50% at bedtime.
I agree that the display does look slightly "washed out" but this is only on a complete black screen. Doesnt really bother me too much.
Cameras are both the same. MXP def doesnt get anywhere near as hot in my hand, and also feels way nicer to hold.

When I said washed out display, I meant in low light condition when ambient display lower brightness to the lowest level. Then LCD on Pure lost contrast as well.
About heating, T2 was getting really hot during 4k video recording and using cardboard. MXF was better, less heating (maybe because winter ) and after upgrade to 6.0 no heating at all. Probably Moto optimized kernel governor to keep CPU cores at lower freq for the same tasks.
MXP is good device but T2/MXF is better. Over $200 better? That's individual. After all it's the first shatterproof display.

Zeljko1234 said:
I used both for about two weeks each. First, Turbo 2 has much better battery life. Moto active display drains battery like crazy on Pure's LCD. Another problem was that LCD looks washed out if compare with AMOLED and requires higher brightness to get similar quality and then drains battery even more. Pure has better screen/body ratio, gorrila glass instead of plastic but breakable... Turbo 2 has better SoC, not really noticeable in daily use. Rest is about the same.
After testing both, I bought Moto X Force. As you may know, the same device as Turbo 2 just for non Verizon networks, unlockable bootloader, no bloatware, etc. Right now charging Force on Samsung wireless charger.
Just ask if you have any other question.
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I also have the Samsung charger, but it takes forever to charge. Do you have the same problem on taking long to charge?

Javiggan69 said:
I also have the Samsung charger, but it takes forever to charge. Do you have the same problem on taking long to charge?
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Surprisingly charges pretty quickly, like charging from pc usb. I have to connect charger to high powered usb port on laptop to be stable. Otherwise stop charging sometimes.

Zeljko1234 said:
I used both for about two weeks each. First, Turbo 2 has much better battery life. Moto active display drains battery like crazy on Pure's LCD. Another problem was that LCD looks washed out if compare with AMOLED and requires higher brightness to get similar quality and then drains battery even more. Pure has better screen/body ratio, gorrila glass instead of plastic but breakable... Turbo 2 has better SoC, not really noticeable in daily use. Rest is about the same.
After testing both, I bought Moto X Force. As you may know, the same device as Turbo 2 just for non Verizon networks, unlockable bootloader, no bloatware, etc. Right now charging Force on Samsung wireless charger.
Just ask if you have any other question.
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Thanks for the response. As a person who hates cases and likes to use his phone one handed, my major concern is the size. I realize the mxp has a better screen to size ratio, but the turbo 2 has a slightly smaller screen. Is there any difference when using the phone one handed? Then again the turbo 2 can at least take a fall.
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T-Keith said:
Thanks for the response. As a person who hates cases and likes to use his phone one handed, my major concern is the size. I realize the mxp has a better screen to size ratio, but the turbo 2 has a slightly smaller screen. Is there any difference when using the phone one handed? Then again the turbo 2 can at least take a fall.
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MXP is definitely harder to handle with one hand. If you can, just go to the nearest shop and try by yourself.

Zeljko1234 said:
MXP is definitely harder to handle with one hand. If you can, just go to the nearest shop and try by yourself.
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Unfortunately the only place the with a mxp is best buy and they have a 1" thick security device on the back that makes it impossible to judge this.
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T-Keith said:
Unfortunately the only place the with a mxp is best buy and they have a 1" thick security device on the back that makes it impossible to judge this.
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They're usually friendly and you can ask them to give you one from the box or to remove security. Guy did that for me for T2. He was standing next to me, winced a little when I put in the pocket Another solution is to buy and test. You have 14 days to return.

Zeljko1234 said:
They're usually friendly and you can ask them to give you one from the box or to remove security. Guy did that for me for T2. He was standing next to me, winced a little when I put in the pocket Another solution is to buy and test. You have 14 days to return.
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Not at my local best buy. The first guy I asked was especially rude, said no right away. The second checked and said they didn't have any open.
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Then just buy, test and return if you don't like it.
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Zeljko1234 said:
I used both for about two weeks each. First, Turbo 2 has much better battery life. Moto active display drains battery like crazy on Pure's LCD. Another problem was that LCD looks washed out if compare with AMOLED and requires higher brightness to get similar quality and then drains battery even more. Pure has better screen/body ratio, gorrila glass instead of plastic but breakable... Turbo 2 has better SoC, not really noticeable in daily use. Rest is about the same.
After testing both, I bought Moto X Force. As you may know, the same device as Turbo 2 just for non Verizon networks, unlockable bootloader, no bloatware, etc. Right now charging Force on Samsung wireless charger.
Just ask if you have any other question.
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Hi, I am considering exchanging my Moto X Style with the Moto X Force. Audio quality through headphones on the Moto X Style is quite decent and loud. Is it the same case with Moto X Force? Really worried about this aspect since I saw a review saying the DAC doesn't perform well.

nealzXincredible said:
Hi, I am considering exchanging my Moto X Style with the Moto X Force. Audio quality through headphones on the Moto X Style is quite decent and loud. Is it the same case with Moto X Force? Really worried about this aspect since I saw a review saying the DAC doesn't perform well.
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I'm using Bluetooth headphones but saw someone's comment about no noticeable difference in quality between USB and build in DAC. I can test headphones with cable tomorrow. Just came from Black Sabbath concert and not sure could I say anything about quality and loudness right now Btw I don't have Style to compare.

Zeljko1234 said:
I'm using Bluetooth headphones but saw someone's comment about no noticeable difference in quality between USB and build in DAC. I can test headphones with cable tomorrow. Just came from Black Sabbath concert and not sure could I say anything about quality and loudness right now Btw I don't have Style to compare.
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That would be really great, if you can test headphones with cable and let me know about the loudness of it. Thanks for the quick reply, really appreciate it mate! Hope you enjoyed the concert

nealzXincredible said:
That would be really great, if you can test headphones with cable and let me know about the loudness of it. Thanks for the quick reply, really appreciate it mate! Hope you enjoyed the concert
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Concert was fantastic!!! Really recommend to see them for their farewell tour.
Just tested Force with Sony MDR ZX770BN, in passive mode and of course with cable. On max volume sound is really loud, reach, strong bass, clear mids and highs, without distortion. Sounds better than over Bluetooth, which means that DAC and amplifier in Force is really good. Of course, Bluetooth stream degrades sound.

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Shame the MAXX will not get the attention it deserves.

Like most I was waiting for the Moto X, but that is no more. I just so happen to walk into a AT&T store the other day to check out the X, because I knew I would be getting one on Verizon. After playing with it for a bit I was impressed. Not because of the specs, but more for how it functioned, and the features. I compared the screens with my DNA, and could tell a difference, but it wasn't a deal breaker. The screen on the X still looked great!
Leaving AT&T I was convinced that the X was surely going to be my next phone in just a little over a week. I took a drive over to my local Verizon store to make a phone payment. When a walked in I noticed the nice display area showing off the new Droids. The MAXX/ULTRA/MINI were all staring at me, and almost seemed to be calling out to to me to come play with them. So I did just that! Remind you, I didn't do much reading up on these phones at all because the X had all my attention. Anyway, the phones... I didn't bother looking at the Mini due to size factor. On to the Ultra I go. When first picking it up, I thought it was nice, but quickly turned off by the back plastic, finger print magnet casing. It was horrible! I hate plastic feeling phones which collect prints, and oils from your hands. I always find myself wiping down the phone multiple times a day, but always becomes a losing battle. Sure, I can always toss on a case, but I like my phones naked! PASS!!!!!
Now, on to the MAXX. The moment picking it up, I thought WOW, this feels good! The weight of the phone felt amazing, and it felt soft to the touch. No plastic feeling BS here guys! This phone felt good! The Kevlar casing looked good too. This phone looked sexy in every way! Heck, even better than the X. After playing with the MAXX for a few minutes, and seeing that it does everything the X could do, I had to take it! Oh, and it's offered in a 32gb vs the 16gb on the X. Yes, I know the X will be offered in 32gb as a developer phone, but still, the MAXX was sexier!
Ok, so I can't make the MAXX look like it came out of a crayon box, but who cares! I left Verizon knowing I was leaving with the better phone hands down. I also know that the MAXX will never see the cool accessories, or anything near the attention the X will get, and that's a shame, because I truly believe it's the better version of the new Motorola lineup. I'm not talking about what it can do, because they all do, and offer the same features. I'm talking about feel alone makes the MAXX better.
After a few days with the MAXX, and I still feel the same way. First time buying a phone, and not care about rooting it, or even switching launchers. Battery life is just mind blowing! I went from having a charger at home, my car, and at the office, to just having 1 charger at home now. The MAXX is a power house when it comes to battery life. Touchless Control is flawless, and very responsive. The phone is a keeper that'll keep a smile on my face for a long time coming.
For those of you on Verizon, and plan on picking up the X, don't overlook the MAXX. Take a couple minutes, and check it out. You might be surprised, and do what I did... What X phone?
I have to agree, I went in with the usual list of phone in mind, ON, sgs4 and ultra, left with the maxx. It it a very nice phone. I dont think I was even this excited about my Gnex.
I agree also. Got my Maxx on launch day. Didn't wait to play with X first though, made my mind up over a few weeks before launch of Maxx.
I couldn't be happier. With weight, screen size, function and battery. This device is amazing.
I also find it hard to believe the Ultra has its own section and the Maxx is still waiting for one.
Oh well, sure it will come.
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I picked up a Mini and couldn't be happier. For me, I like the smaller size. Came from the Rezound and wanted something about the same feel. This whole line is pretty slick. The Moto X seems like a cute marketing play more than anything else.
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I'm switching employers and get to ditch a BlackBerry Curve for the phone/provider of my choice. Decided on Verizon since my personal cell is AT&T in order to maximize coverage. Was going to pick up an HTC One since I'd been envying it for months. But as soon as I started reading abut the Maxx I became intrigued. Picked it up a few days ago, and I agree that it's a shame that it's being overlooked.
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Pretty disappointed with the lack of conversation here on xda. Luckily there's a fair amount of it on androidcentral and androidforums.
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Finally got my Maxx in the mail yesterday. I'm coming from an iPhone 5 back to Android. Like many people I was sold on the Moto X but decided to give the Maxx a try. Glad I did, the ui is smooth and the phone is very responsive. I,m use to aosp and must admit this is the smoothest Android device I've own so far.
The battery is just another bonus. I'm putting it through its paces to see what results I get. Will try and post something up later. Glad to be back xda
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Gtech145 said:
Finally got my Maxx in the mail yesterday. I'm coming from an iPhone 5 back to Android. Like many people I was sold on the Moto X but decided to give the Maxx a try. Glad I did, the ui is smooth and the phone is very responsive. I,m use to aosp and must admit this is the smoothest Android device I've own so far.
The battery is just another bonus. I'm putting it through its paces to see what results I get. Will try and post something up later. Glad to be back xda
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Bought mine a few days ago, battery is definitely a beast. Got 51 hours on battery. Over 4 hours screen on time. Probably 5 or 6 hours of music through Bluetooth. Random surfing the web, texts, email and calls.
I think some of the lack of coverage here on Xda is due to the name of the forum for this "phone". While there are 3/4 versions of the phone there is only one Heading (Motorola Droid Ultra). IMHO, I think the Motorola Droid Ultra forum would get more traffic it it was named "Motorola Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini".
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I think some of the lack of coverage here on Xda is due to the name of the forum for this "phone". While there are 3/4 versions of the phone there is only one Heading (Motorola Droid Ultra). IMHO, I think the Motorola Droid Ultra forum would get more traffic it it was named "Motorola Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini".
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Couldn't agree more. I would think by the amount of single threads started by interest people, and users of the Maxx, they would've just made a section for it. Why not keep it organized?
Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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Not separate but add the name to the forum title would help some people find out this is where we are talking.
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I'm in agreement with most of you. Had to replace my broken slippery ass S4. So tired of plastic slippery phones. I consider the One, and while very nice, I hated the power button placement, the smaller battery, and wanted Active Notifications.
I was going to get the Moto X, but decided I would get the Maxx and return it if I didn't like it. Oh man, smooth as butter. Can't believe how smooth this phone is. I'm running stock, and really doing care that I can't ROM it. Root would be nice for a couple apps and tweaks, but really...I'm not too bothered not having it.
The Maxx is really the superior phones, especially when you consider the plastic finger print magnet ultra is only $50 less. I really think bigger battery and double storage space along with the Matte soft touch back is worth $50! :good:
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I'm in agreement with most of you. Had to replace my broken slippery ass S4. So tired of plastic slippery phones. I consider the One, and while very nice, I hated the power button placement, the smaller battery, and wanted Active Notifications.
I was going to get the Moto X, but decided I would get the Maxx and return it if I didn't like it. Oh man, smooth as butter. Can't believe how smooth this phone is. I'm running stock, and really doing care that I can't ROM it. Root would be nice for a couple apps and tweaks, but really...I'm not too bothered not having it.
The Maxx is really the superior phones, especially when you consider the plastic finger print magnet ultra is only $50 less. I really think bigger battery and double storage space along with the Matte soft touch back is worth $50! :good:
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I totally agree! It's awesome to be able to keep auto brightness on, sync on, and do whatever you want with your phone without worrying about the battery dieing. Some people are happy getting through a full day and have 10% left, but if an emergency ever popped up 10% wouldn't get you much.
empoweredh22 said:
Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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It also has wireless charging that the Ultra doesn't have. My sense is that more people will buy the Maxx than the ultra, so, if the forum needs to have only one name, call it the Droid Maxx.
doogald said:
It also has wireless charging that the Ultra doesn't have. My sense is that more people will buy the Maxx than the ultra, so, if the forum needs to have only one name, call it the Droid Maxx.
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More of the cell knowledgable and tech people will definitely. I could however, see someone like my parents that don't need the extra storage, battery, or care about the wireless charger buying the thinner and cheaper Ultra.
Well both phones are on back order at the moment. Must have sold pretty well even if they just had a small batch.
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th3taman said:
More of the cell knowledgable and tech people will definitely. I could however, see someone like my parents that don't need the extra storage, battery, or care about the wireless charger buying the thinner and cheaper Ultra.
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No one should get the Ultra. The X is a better version of that.
The 2 things I don't love on the Maxx are the capacitive buttons and the 5" screen. Of course I don't have mine yet so it's speculation at this point but I feel like capacitive buttons are a step back from the more technologically advanced and cool looking on-screen buttons. And I feel like 5" is just too big. I thought that about my 4.3" G-Nex and 4.7" Razr HD though too so maybe it will be ok (hopefully).
Yes it is a great phone more than meet my needs
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empoweredh22 said:
No one should get the Ultra. The X is a better version of that.
The 2 things I don't love on the Maxx are the capacitive buttons and the 5" screen. Of course I don't have mine yet so it's speculation at this point but I feel like capacitive buttons are a step back from the more technologically advanced and cool looking on-screen buttons. And I feel like 5" is just too big. I thought that about my 4.3" G-Nex and 4.7" Razr HD though too so maybe it will be ok (hopefully).
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I actually prefer, in this case, the capacitive buttons because they don't take up any screen real estate. On the Moto X, the effective screen space for normal usage is close to 4.3" after those on-screen buttons. I've had an S4, so I'm used to 5" - so in the case of the Maxx I'm glad they're "off screen". The beauty of Android I guess... for all shapes and sizes!

Considering Z3, but......

Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off, even many iPhone 6s are being returned to TMO, it happens as the device is new and sometimes there is a bad batch. TMO got dumped a bad batch, just go to store and check there if it has issues they will open another one and you can get a good one. Remember even the the HTC M7 had issues with purple cam etc and the G3 with cracks near the mic, for some batches, no company is immune. Mostly people with defects are vocal on forums and those without issues generally don't come on forums to praise so obviously on forums talk will be skewed towards the problems/defects.
Its a good phone, but if you think you may be careless the M8 is better as its more impact resistant as corners of LCD are protected by a much thicker metal frame.
Overall though the Z3 has better battery life, camera, and speakers are "almost" as good as the M8, and as you mentioned before its not as bulky. Waterproofing is also a plus.
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I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off, even many iPhone 6s are being returned to TMO, it happens as the device is new and sometimes there is a bad batch. TMO got dumped a bad batch, just go to store and check there if it has issues they will open another one and you can get a good one. Remember even the the HTC M7 had issues with purple cam etc and the G3 with cracks near the mic, for some batches, no company is immune. Mostly people with defects are vocal on forums and those without issues generally don't come on forums to praise so obviously on forums talk will be skewed towards the problems/defects.
Its a good phone, but if you think you may be careless the M8 is better as its more impact resistant as corners of LCD are protected by a much thicker metal frame.
Overall though the Z3 has better battery life, camera, and speakers are "almost" as good as the M8, and as you mentioned before its not as bulky. Waterproofing is also a plus.
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Very encouraging indeed. Im on my 7th day, 2nd phone replacement due to screen gap and some bugs. So far, im "ok" but not 100% yet, I hope ? everything's gonna be alright AFTER the 14th day(exchange/return period)
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I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off,.
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Your upbeat attitude towards this phone is very encouraging. Funnily enough just as you were posting this, another user on whirlpool (Australian based forum), reported another crack.
I might wait it out and see if they make changes to resolve these issues.
Has anyone else here come from the N5 or moto x 2014? Do you like the change?
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Your upbeat attitude towards this phone is very encouraging. Funnily enough just as you were posting this, another user on whirlpool (Australian based forum), reported another crack.
I might wait it out and see if they make changes to resolve these issues.
Has anyone else here come from the N5 or moto x 2014? Do you like the change?
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I came from a G2 which is basically a Nexus 5+, its a good upgrade, though I still love the G2 as well. G2 (6-7Hrs SOT) gets pretty close battery life to the Z3 (7-8.5 Hrs SOT), but N5 (3-4Hrs SOT) and Moto X users will see a night and day difference in battery life as the Z3 is that much bettery in terms of battery life.
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Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
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So I ordered my Sony Xperia Z3 this week after browsing the forums for some time. I was previously using the S5 which worked great, but I wanted a phone that was more stock and aesthetically pleasing. After careful consideration, I realized that I could do with the QC and ordered a white d6603 Xperia Z3 from eBay. It just arrived today and I have to say that it is perfect. I don't have any screen gap, pink lens, nor misshaped cover flaps. While you do read a lot about the problems, do consider that this is a small portion of the total consumers of the Z3 and it does not affect everyone. Currently, I've been using this phone for a day and have had only one problem. I activated google now for all screens and I get this camera message saying "Recording in progress in another app. Cannot record error." A simple google search fixed my problem as it seems there is a bug where google now will cause that message to pop up.
Overall, its a great phone. Although the camera is not as great as my previous S5, I can live with it. I just wish I had gotten the black because the white gets dirty pretty quick. I'd definitely recommend this.
Funny enough, when I sent in my first for a replacement I cancelled the online reorder as they had no stock. Ironically yesterday I get a notification that "your phone is one the way". I had to call T-Mobile and tell them to pull it out of UPS, otherwise I would now have a 5th phone as well lol.
I have now 3 EIPS that I have to pay because they still havent verified my returns, because apparently they are too busy handling a large number of defective iPhone 6s lol, according to a rep.
I have Z3 for 3 weeks now and it works perfect. No flaws in design too. Only thing I regret is that I did not get some other color. I got black, but it was the only option get here.
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Funny enough, when I sent in my first for a replacement I cancelled the online reorder as they had no stock. Ironically yesterday I get a notification that "your phone is one the way". I had to call T-Mobile and tell them to pull it out of UPS, otherwise I would now have a 5th phone as well lol.
I have now 3 EIPS that I have to pay because they still havent verified my returns, because apparently they are too busy handling a large number of defective iPhone 6s lol, according to a rep.
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So that's why my EIP didn't come off yet
You will find problems with every single phone. There are no perfect devices.
Buy the Z3 if you like it - if there is anything wrong with it, just replace it - that's why we have warranties, that's why we have consumer laws.
Really happy with my Z3:
"Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality."
No cracks on mine, waterproofing works just fine, reception is at least 2 bars better than my iPhone 6 in most places, no noises, camera button works just fine.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I've spent a lot of time analyzing what would be my next Android phone. I considered the Moto X (2014) as well but what was turning me off was the battery life and camera performance though I love the feel of Motorola phones and their Android skin is the best this side of the Nexus phones. As my main gripes with my Nexus 5 were battery life and screen brightness outdoors (not the camera which I actually liked), I just can't go back to a poor performing battery so the Moto X is out.
I picked up a Z3 and had it for few days and I have to say the battery life was great and the screen was really bright so my two Nexus 5 issues were addressed.
I can't say I liked the performance of the speakers (no where near as good as my Z30) but definitely better than the Nexus 5. Camera performance didn't do much for the few indoor tests I did but I didn't try it enough to put it through its paces. I also can't say I liked the feel of the phone in my hand. I'm used to larger phones but it just didn't seem to fit right (again, not as nice as a Motorola phone or my Z30).
In the end, while 'technically' proficient, I just didn't 'love' it so I returned it. But in many aspects, I think it is one of the best Android phones you can buy right now as it does many things well, just not in a package that suits me. I can't see going for a HTC One M8 right now as there will be a new one in... what... 4 months? Not to mention that the battery life with the M8 wouldn't be as good as the Z3. Since an Android phone is a secondary phone for me, I can live with waiting a while longer before committing to something but if I had to buy today, I'd probably go with the Z3 despite my issues with it. Afterall, no phone is perfect.
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Coming from a Nexus 5, I've spent a lot of time analyzing what would be my next Android phone. I considered the Moto X (2014) as well but what was turning me off was the battery life and camera performance though I love the feel of Motorola phones and their Android skin is the best this side of the Nexus phones. As my main gripes with my Nexus 5 were battery life and screen brightness outdoors (not the camera which I actually liked), I just can't go back to a poor performing battery so the Moto X is out...
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This was exactly how I felt about the Z3, also coming from the Nexus 5. A lot of improvements coming from the Nexus 5, mainly the battery life and screen, but I think I expected a lot more from the camera. This is where it is weak.
So do you guys think the droid turbo, despite being 11mm thick, might feel better in the hand? I remember holding the z2 and instantly hating the way it felt. It was like holding a slab of glass. I thought the z3 would be better due to its thinness and curved edges.
EDIT: Watched a few more clips about the Droid. No one has mentioned how thick it is. In-fact, most commented on how nice it was to hold.
I think I am going to jump ship from the Z3 and get the Droid. I also like that it will be more drop resistant.
Thanks for the input from everyone. Greatly appreciated.
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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It's faster than nexus 5.
Root and ubl could only increase the gap of performance
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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I had a N5 and then M8. To me they are all around the same speed. You probably couldn't tell unless you did a side by side comparison
How is reception vs LG devices(N5/G2/G3)?
As good if not better than my LG G2, on par with my moms' IPhone 6.
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Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
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The M8 betters my Z3 in almost every single aspect. And in a fall, i'd take the M8 any day. I made a mistake getting the Z3. It's a good phone, but the M8 it replaced walks all over it.
Don't expect good build with the Z3 because mine started perfect, but is slowly starting to creak shall we say...
As for speed, the M8 is faster, at most things, unlocking, scrolling, opening apps, camera etc etc.

Are you returning or keeping the Moto X Pure Edition? And why?

It is probably too early for this kind of thread but I'm just gonna put this out there. So...
Are you keeping the phone or are you returning it? Why?
Also, note that the return/redesign period for the Moto Maker Moto X Pure Edition is extended for 30 days from shipped date. (Originally, it was only 14 days , and 30 days were only for CA residents.)
See here: https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/97867
Update 9/19: Moto changed it again. Extended return no longer applies. Be aware of your 14 days for everywhere except California.
I plane to exchange to for a dark wood back. I like it so far faster and battery life is about the same as my Note 2.
At this point I plan on keeping it. Pretty sure it's going to be like a Nexus phone with a memory card slot. I just came from the Verizon G4, and while I really liked it, there is absolutely NO development.
Definitely a keeper. Has everything I need: close to vanilla Android, free from carrier bloat, native wifi-tether, etc. Don't think there's any competition at this price point.
Only weakness is the battery life, but it's still slightly better than the HTC m7 I'm coming from. Just wish Google would get their head out of their asses and fix the damn Google Play battery drain..
So far I love it, I wouldn't mind a wood back but I'd be concerned it would make it more slippery
Keeping it. Loving the phone so far.
Keeping. The only 'negative', if you can call it that, is that the battery is 'only' 4 hours SoT. But the turbo charger is insane (over 2% per minute), I'm not even worried about battery life.
I'm returning mine. It was between the XPE and a Note 5 for me. The Note 5 wins by a mile. (for my needs). However I will buy another XPE in the future to have as my side b*tch. I'll wait for a black Friday sale and get a wood back next time. I had gone with the plastic back with the intention of using skins. Not with that texture.
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Little torn right now. I like the size and build more than my Nexus 6, but doesn't seem like much of an upgrade, more of a side grade. The deal breaker for the xpe may be lack of wifi calling on t-mobile, something I use in the basement of my house.
Out of curiosity how is screen brightness. I need a super bright screen because I'm outside a lot. I love the brightness of the note 5 and the nexus 6 once rooted has a super bright mode.
So far, I really really dig this thing. I can't come up with a single complaint other than the lack of fingerprint reader.
My index finger just graviates to that Moto dimple, and to be completely honest, it's making me reconsider if I want to switch it out for a N5 2015. With Android Pay around the corner, and it's integration into Marshmallow with the API, I see fingerprint reader's really becoming a core aspect of the phone. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But that dimple just makes me wish it were a fingerprint reader.
In all reality, I'll probably keep it due to SD slot, larger screen, etc. But god dammit.
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Out of curiosity how is screen brightness. I need a super bright screen because I'm outside a lot. I love the brightness of the note 5 and the nexus 6 once rooted has a super bright mode.
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I have heard that the AMOLED screens on the N6 and Note 5 will be brighter, but I've also heard no complaints on just how bright the XPE is. I'm sure it would suit you needs. I'm also outside a lot for work, so I'm interested in this question as well.
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I'm returning mine. It was between the XPE and a Note 5 for me. The Note 5 wins by a mile. (for my needs). However I will buy another XPE in the future to have as my side b*tch. I'll wait for a black Friday sale and get a wood back next time. I had gone with the plastic back with the intention of using skins. Not with that texture.
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Just curious, what does the Note 5 have that the Moto doesn't? Which part(s) is dissuading you the most from keeping the X? I'm guess the stylus and split-screen?
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My index finger just graviates to that Moto dimple, and to be completely honest, it's making me reconsider if I want to switch it out for a N5 2015. With Android Pay around the corner, and it's integration into Marshmallow with the API, I see fingerprint reader's really becoming a core aspect of the phone. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But that dimple just makes me wish it were a fingerprint reader..
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You can do the same thing with a PIN, though, right? With Android Pay, I don't think you need a fingerprint scanner. You actually have a backup PIN in case the fingerprint reader fails for some reason.
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You can do the same thing with a PIN, though, right? With Android Pay, I don't think you need a fingerprint scanner. You actually have a backup PIN in case the fingerprint reader fails for some reason.
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Yeah I guess you're right. Besides, I'd lose out on all the Moto features, and that's even before considering how hard it is to snag a Nexus in the first month of launch.
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So far, I really really dig this thing. I can't come up with a single complaint other than the lack of fingerprint reader.
My index finger just graviates to that Moto dimple, and to be completely honest, it's making me reconsider if I want to switch it out for a N5 2015. With Android Pay around the corner, and it's integration into Marshmallow with the API, I see fingerprint reader's really becoming a core aspect of the phone. Maybe I'm wrong, who knows. But that dimple just makes me wish it were a fingerprint reader.
In all reality, I'll probably keep it due to SD slot, larger screen, etc. But god dammit.
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I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer, but.you opinion is fine. But finding tap and pay terminals is becoming more forgiven. Every place that upgraded for the chip debit/credit cards all have had no tap and go in my experience
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Out of curiosity how is screen brightness. I need a super bright screen because I'm outside a lot. I love the brightness of the note 5 and the nexus 6 once rooted has a super bright mode.
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The brightness and clarity of this screen blows my rooted Nexus 6 out of the water. Can't speak for the Note 5 though.
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There is no way in couple days in will return to note4 lol
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im coming from a LG G Flex, have had it for a year and was feeling the itch to get a new phone. Got my Pure(White/Bamboo) on Thursday and i can notice the screen quality is a lot better,build quality feels premium, no lag. The battery life isnt a step up, the Flex has a 3500mah battery. The Turbo charging is amazing though, it charges up so fast. The back does get warm when browsing through apps for a while and the whites on the screen seem to be warmer compared to S6. I miss the double tap to wake and the even bigger screen on my Flex but no way im going back. Definitely a keeper, i feel like its the best phone for the money out right now and i will definately recommend it.
Definitely keeping everything is great. Speakers, screen, size, feel, look and the list goes on... Night and day over my nexus. Let's just hope the development community takes off
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gonna be exchanging it. the royal blue in the motomaker doesn't look anything like i've seen in reviews if it had i would have gotten it to start with
Coming from a Nexus 6. Exchanging mine due to a couple of what seems like defective issue: gets warm, banding and flickering on screen, chrome web browsing stutters (not sure if relation to heat issues). It is somewhat upsetting to receive a broken phone but hopefully the replacement works 100%.

So I just used a 5x for the first time. Nexus 5 user here

Ps: big text incoming... I should write novels not Internet forum posts! Bear with me pls.
I've been kinda wanting to replace my Nexus 5 for a while now.
Things that annoy me are the battery that doesn't last that long - doesn't make it through the day if I happen to use it a bit more than the occasional message and photo. And the camera... I have taken freaking fantastic photos with this phone! Even though so many people complain, and fore sure there are way better cameras, Google Camera's HDR+ works wonders!
However.... Quite frequently I loose quick shots because the phone takes forever from 0 to Photo-snap! Focus is slow and unreliable...
Other than those two things, I really can't complain! Specially for the price! 400€ 32gb bright red model. Kinda cheap and unique as **** as you don't really see many screaming bright red phones around.
Still.... I want a reliable camera and a battery that lasts the day even when I use the phone at will.
So I started looking...
Galaxy S6 => awesome hardware! (even though the battery is kinda iffy) but failWiz makes it a no go for me!.. I was nearly going for it when I found out you can't even use alternative keyboards freely because Samsung's ram manager keeps pushing them out.
LG g4.. Meh camera ain't that fantastic, just has a great manual mode.
Nexus 6p ... Seems cool! But it's too big, and now that it's seemingly crappy internal structure design has been revealed... I'm not looking forward to pay over 630€ for a phone whose design had corners cut.
So I considered the 5x. Even though I hate the fake front speaker grill
It kinda checks all boxes.
But today, to my surprise I found one on exposition on a local electronics shop. First I was like "wow cool!" then after playing around with it for a while and comparing it to my N5 I was more like "Meh... Not paying 530€ for this."
The camera looks awesome, even though it didn't seem to snap pics that fast (was in low light ambient)
But it doesn't really perspire quality.
If it'd cost here the same it costs in the states, sure. Good deal!
But for this price... Doesn't seem worth jumping from the Nexus 5 to the 5x.
Did I miss something? What makes this phone fantastic?
I wanted to love it....but I walked away far from in love.
Yeah... Unless your N5 is crapping out, you really have no reason to replace it.
Only reason why I'm thinking the 5x is because after two years, it has some light wear and tear that drives my ocd nuts, as do a couple of hairline cracks at the sim tray and the volume rocker.
All I would expect from the 5 to the 5x is an improved camera, maybe slightly better battery, slightly improved SoC... And nexus imprint... Other than that, its the same phone. Which isn't a bad thing. The N5 was/is a great device, and if u add the above mentioned features, its worthy of a slightly bumped up price from it's predecessor
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
The thing about the price bump is that the price bump in Europe isn't because of extra hardware, otherwise it would have the same bump in the States. No - it's most probably because google felt like joining the bandwagon of ripping off ppl in Europe! lol... Taxes? Sure there are more taxes here and import taxes, but not to cover that much difference in price I don't think.
So it makes it kinda hard to justify the price even if I was shopping for a phone from scratch, not for a swap.
If you want a fingerprint scanner and a better camera, but that's about it. Larger screen too. I really like my 5X, it replaced my S6 edge and I'm much more pleased with the 5X. My old man is using my original nexus 5, so I couldn't take that from him, but he's pleased with it.
I got used to using a fingerprint with the S6E and since Android pay wants a secure lock screen, it just made sense for me to get the 5X over finding another 5. But I'm in the States and it's cheaper here, so that helped with the decision too.
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
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Oh yeah... I have the one by the audio jack too lmao.
Nobody ever claimed the n5 had good build quality. It's always been described as feeling "cheap" and "plastic". I always thought mine might have came from minor drops until I read that virtually everyone has them lol.
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It's like an N5 that's improved in every way IMO. The downsides being it's physically larger and a bit more expensive.
Biggest improvements are battery life and the camera image quality.
However some examples of the more unexpected improvements that you notice once you start using the device for a while:
Charge speeds. I've not charged over night even once yet as a 30 minute charge is enough to get through a day (roughly 50%).
Skin temperature. This device stays much cooler than the N5 especially during lighter usage such as Streaming Netflix and browsing. Battery temperatures remain consistently cooler than the N5 at all times, especially gaming.
Fingerprint sensor and ambient display: Together make it feel like you're interacting with the device in a whole new way. No need to use the power button ever.
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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It's awesome. I don't need to disable a single thing and my run times are similar to my N5 that had just about everything disabled.
It might only have an extra 400mAh but it feels like an extra 1000mAh. Part of that is because of Android 6.0 and Doze though.
Most of my results are in the 4-6 hours SoT range across 20+ hours. Lowest is 3 hours SoT across 20+ hours with weak signal mobile data usage and gaming. 50% manual brightness with most software features enabled.
Examples:
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Sounds pretty good.
I rarely (never) see even 3h sot, much less 4 :'D
Sounds like I saw what the N5x has on offer pretty well.
The thing screwing it up is the EU price adjustment being even worse than it was with the N5
Ok, long post too... bear with me...
So, I had the exact same issues as you described. I loved my N5 and I've been using it daily for the past 2 years or so. The main reasons I wanted to change phones was battery life and the cameras, both rear and front facing. I do agree with you when you say that the N5 snapped some fantastic shots though. HDR+ really works wonders.
I considered a lot of options such as the Moto X Style/Pure, Nexus 6P, LG G4, Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 or the OnePlus 2, but they're just too physically big. Can't carry around a phone that big. I'd have to buy new trousers because I wouldn't be able to fit it in any of my pockets
Also, Z5 and S6 are way too expensive and I find it morally wrong to spend so much money on a phone... personal thing...
After a lot of reading and thinking, I did get the 5X in the end. I'm in the UK so I paid slightly less than 530€ (£350 which is around 485€). I must say that I'm definitely happy with the upgrade.
As for the camera, when you say it doesn't perspire quality, you're completely wrong. The camera on this phone is FREAKING amazing, the quality is outstanding and the focus is lovely! The sensor captures a LOT of detail! I mean, A LOT OF DETAIL! Can't really say about the colours cause I'm colour-blind (lol), but I find them spot on (a little bit on the dark side perhaps but nothing to worry about, you can always bump up the brightness in edit mode). The aperture is quite good which makes the macro mode fantastic as well (depth of field related). Even though I got some decent shots with the original N5, this camera is on a completely different level, quality wise! As for speed, I find the camera app a little bit to slow at times but this is a software issue rather than an hardware one. The focus is fast and accurate. Most likely the app slow down will be addressed in a future app update.
Front facing camera is also quite decent. Wide angle is awesome for selfies and it also captures a lot of detail. Coming from the 1.3MP camera on the N5, this one is a welcome improvement, trust me!
As for battery life, don't get your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, battery usage is way better than the N5 and it does last a full WORKING day (which I wouldn't get out of the N5... I'm a very heavy user) but it's no Z3/Z5 compact. I'd say you can get 30/35% more usage time on the 5X. While it might not seem a lot but I've been getting a lot more Screen on Time and standby usage has also improved. I feel like doze works way better on the 5X than on the N5, probably due to the revamped hardware (note that always on sensors on the 808 SoC are much more battery efficient). Quick charge works wonders too! Charge it for 10/15 minutes and you're good for another 4/5h of usage. Perfect for when you have a night out, just charge it for 10 mins before leaving work and you're good to go!
Chipset-wise, while it might not seem a worthy upgrade, I have to say that the 808 performs exceptionally well. The 64bit architecture DOES MAKE a difference although by looking at the specs on paper you won't really tell. Even though my N5 was mostly snappy, it would lag and struggle at times. I've yet to experience that on the 5X and I have the exact same apps/setup I had on my N5. Definitely an improvement on performance too.
As for the rest, it's pretty much the same experience as the N5. Build quality, android experience, sound (no stereo speakers, bummer, but it's the same as the N5 so...), screen quality. I was happy with what I had and I'm happy with what I have now
By the way, two features I didn't care much for were the fingerprint sensor and the ambient display. While they may not be deal breakers, both things are quite a nice to have. Regarding the fingerprint sensor, its position is perfect and it works almost flawlessly! Also it's fast... like, insanely FAST! The ambient display helps battery and it works good, not great but good (doesn't always kick in perfectly). I'm guessing this could be addressed on a future software update as well. Again, it's not a deal breaker but it's definitely a great addition to an already good phone.
Sorry for the long post, hope it helps
Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
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I got the 32Gb by the way, 16Gb is £300 although I wouldn't recommend 16Gb to anyone given the fact that there's no micro sd slot...
It is possible to get an insurance, yes. I guess it's something like £12/mo but I don't know what it covers (probably 1 screen replacement, theft I don't know... check carphone warehouse for more details). Also, I don't know if you'll be able to do it since you don't live in the UK.
Quality wise, I'd say if you feel like the N5 has a cheap build quality, you'll have the same opinion about the 5X. This phone doesn't have an aluminium unibody neither it does have gorilla glass 4. It is not an iphone 6s/htc m9/6P/etc, they had to cut costs somewhere I guess. It won't win any design awards either, that's for sure. Having said that, if you feel ok with the N5, you'll notice no difference handling the 5X. If you (because you're upgrading to a new device) expect the new phone to have a more premium feel (as "they" put it and has been taunted pretty much everywhere...) you won't get that from the 5X.
Vibration engine is sometimes annoyingly loud and tbh, not quite strong. But does the job I guess, I feel it vibrating in my hand and in my pocket, I've yet to miss a call cause I didn't feel it vibrating plus, I don't think that will be a reason to/not to buy the phone.
The button are, well, buttons... I've seen people complaining about the N5 having ceramic buttons and the 5X plastic ones. My thought about that is... who cares? Because of the fingerprint sensor I'm using a power button a lot less and the volume rocker has a rather nice position as it's placed towards the centre rather on the top of the phone. I find it convenient because the headphone jack is on the bottom so, when listening to music, my phone is faced down in my back pocket and I can easily adjust the volume without hassle.
In my opinion, I don't really care about aluminium unibody bull****. It gives a premium feeling, ok that's fair enough, if you're into that. Although if you're into that, you'll probably, won't be looking at the 5X Also, I rather have a phone that won't give me an heart attack when (notice the "when" rather than "if"!) I drop it
I'm there with you.
"Premium" quality comes with ups and downs.
I'm a but into design so I like a good looking device just like I nice a well designed car.
However I also drop em once in a while xD Nexus has proven incredibly durable (think I'm lucky too), I doubt a S6 or iPhone would survive some of the drops the n5 did.
When i asked about quality and feeling I didn't mean to compare with the more design oriented devices. But compare it with the N5 and other plastic chassi phones. The 5x sure is plastic, but it felt more "solid" in my hand than the N5. But I can't be sure cuz of the alarm dongle that was stuck to it.
On the buttons... So what if the n5 has ceramic?... Nice touch, but they are have some play. 5x's seemed more solid even if not "clickier" like most people seem to like
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In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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I wish. But so far no carrier has it or has announced anything regarding it
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How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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I've thought about it. But kinda dozed off the idea when I didn't know which battery to choose =P
I replaced the battery on my N5 two months ago so I speak out of experience. It has gotten better but 5X's battery still performs better than a new battery on my N5.
Battery life is never linear as it depends on each person usage. I personally have everything on all the time... I rely heavily on Google's services like location tracking, location based reminders and I "need" a always-on data connection. Given this premise, my battery is bound not to last as long as other peoples' but I think starting to turn features off in order to preserve battery is not the way to go. I want to fully experience my phone and I'm aware that may cause battery drains. That's why I have a power bank ;pp
Regarding design, I'm very picky too, trust me. I do, however prefer minimalistic designs and both the N5 and 5X suit my design obsession. Again, this is also a matter of personal taste...
SrPintas said:
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
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Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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H0tep said:
Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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Ahahahah xD
It was in exposition in a major electronics shop and stuck to the counter with an alarm dongle and "chain" cable.
Didn't really use it at home or something with the dongle still attached xD

Anyone thought about going to N6P?

I've been considering moving to the Nexus 6P, mainly for the better abilities of the phone and of course, use and selection of ROMS. Besides, if I got froggy I could try Android N. Just wondering if anyone made the switch or want to?
I personally can't afford it, and the lack of expandable storage is a serious drawback, but other than that yeah. I'm aiming at becoming a developer, so the Nexii have obvious appeal.
MHB1638 said:
I've been considering moving to the Nexus 6P, mainly for the better abilities of the phone and of course, use and selection of ROMS. Besides, if I got froggy I could try Android N. Just wondering if anyone made the switch or want to?
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I made the switch to the Gold 6P when it was on sale, 64GB. I use Google Photos so no real need for an SD card. I love the quick updates and the amount of development.
The only con from switching is the size of the phone. It's the same screen size but damn. It's a beast to hold. Camera is a + tho.
I actually still have both phones too. Deciding on which to sell...
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I made the switch to the Gold 6P when it was on sale, 64GB. I use Google Photos so no real need for an SD card. I love the quick updates and the amount of development.
The only con from switching is the size of the phone. It's the same screen size but damn. It's a beast to hold. Camera is a + tho.
I actually still have both phones too. Deciding on which to sell...
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I have no real problems with my Moto, size seems about perfect, so idk. The Camera on this is ok at best....somehow my old N5 did better in some situations. I also had the N6 and that thing was insanely massive to hold. Not sure how the hold of the newer 6P would be different. I just kind a like having new **** I guess.
I got my X back in December, I needed to replace my old Xperia Z, (I'm in Costa Rica) so back then I could't get the phone from Google/Huawei and Amazon wasn't selling the 6P officially, so there and at eBay the 6P was way too expensive, so I decided to buy the X 32GB (it had $50 off), honestly I was't completely sure if I wanted to try this Moto, I am so glad I bought it! so far so good! But I still want the 6P, just because!
The only reason I would switch is for the development from the Nexus community. Remember though the new set of phones should be coming out soon though. Hopefully the next moto x pure gets a lot more attention due to the success with the current version.
I have. My MXPE cracked the screen.. it's been 12 days since submitting for RMA and still has not shipped.
Anyway, I got a 6p.
The Speakers, about the same, if not a little bit tinny (probably software).
The display is exactly the same size. I love the AMOLED, but the MXPE's wasn't bad.
The 6p body is larger then the MXPE, Taller by maybe a cm.
Camera on the 6p KILLS the MXPE.
The FP scanner is neat. Honestly though with smart lock, at home, when my watch is connected, when my headphones are connected... it's unlocked. Also, using the FP bypasses lock-screen notifications putting you on the home screen.... Put better, if you use smart lock, the FP is much less useful.
For me, I really am half tempted to go to the 5x. You get the good camera, and a body that fits your pockets and hands much more comfortably. Or stick with the Moto.
Don't get me wrong.. it's great but it's a big cost with somewhat low gains.
Oh, Prepare for a total cable swap. The 6p comes with a 4' Type C to C cable and the wall wart. You'll probably need a car charger.. battery life is as bad as the MXPE, but it charges slower. I'm in it for a 6' cable ($8) and a TronSmart Car Charger ($19). Plus some USB Micro to Type C adapters, and a Type C OTG cable. And Two cases... So Expect the typical $100 in accessories...
N is buggy right now... you're not missing much, except frustration.
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I have. My MXPE cracked the screen.. it's been 12 days since submitting for RMA and still has not shipped.
Anyway, I got a 6p.
The Speakers, about the same, if not a little bit tinny (probably software).
The display is exactly the same size. I love the AMOLED, but the MXPE's wasn't bad.
The 6p body is larger then the MXPE, Taller by maybe a cm.
Camera on the 6p KILLS the MXPE.
The FP scanner is neat. Honestly though with smart lock, at home, when my watch is connected, when my headphones are connected... it's unlocked. Also, using the FP bypasses lock-screen notifications putting you on the home screen.... Put better, if you use smart lock, the FP is much less useful.
For me, I really am half tempted to go to the 5x. You get the good camera, and a body that fits your pockets and hands much more comfortably. Or stick with the Moto.
Don't get me wrong.. it's great but it's a big cost with somewhat low gains.
Oh, Prepare for a total cable swap. The 6p comes with a 4' Type C to C cable and the wall wart. You'll probably need a car charger.. battery life is as bad as the MXPE, but it charges slower. I'm in it for a 6' cable ($8) and a TronSmart Car Charger ($19). Plus some USB Micro to Type C adapters, and a Type C OTG cable. And Two cases... So Expect the typical $100 in accessories...
N is buggy right now... you're not missing much, except frustration.
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Nice reply, ty! I tried the N5x for like a weak and didn't care for the screen...very much pure ****. The N6P is better, but it's little longer then the MXP. I held both at Bestbuy and while I see physical differences, I really could tell much difference in the screen or speed. I know thats just a quick check and by far not perfect, just the vertical length is a bit large, prob due to the camera.
I did consider the 6P along with the X, but the lack of expandable storage (I really need alot of storage), and the high price of the 6P, along with the build quality question marks put me off. Also I have had half a dozen AMOLED devices over the years and some of them suffered some awful burn in even though I was careful.
Also from all reviews, the curved back is much nicer to hold than the 6P, and the very small bezels make it more pocketable.
In the end, the X + 200GB card = 232GB storage, for half the price of a 128GB 6P. A bit slower, camera isn't as good, but still plenty good enough.

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