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I'm looking for a way to redirect my TomTom voice instructions from my MDA Vario through my Parrat CK3300 BT carkit sounding on my car-speakersystem by using the bluetooth stack. Now Parrot claims this isn't possible due to a phone limitation. I agree and think it's shortage of Microsoft WM5. Now I've looked up some info about Bluetooth Audio Distribution and found the following:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
AKU 2.0 for Windows Mobile 5.0 (for both, Smartphone and Pocket PC), which is expected to be released early next year (2006), will also includes support for the Bluetooth Advanced Audio Distribution Profile profile which is designed to transfer a stereo audio stream like music from the device to a headset or car radio.
A2DP is already implemented into the Samsung SGH-i300 Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition Smartphone, however this isn't based on Microsoft's A2DP implementation but Samsung added it itself.
(Refer to http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=2779 for more info concerning this subject.)
So if this article is based on true facts, it means that Microsoft will soon release a patch for all WM5 based devices, which enables them to receive all audio (e.g. TomTom voice instructions) through the bluetooth stack.
Somebody knows more about this subject and if it's true that after having AKU 2.0 installed, you can hear the navigation instructions through your carkit or headset?
Many thanks,
Youri Festen
there is a facility on this forum that will allow you to switch audio to and from the bluetooth, not high quality or stereo but standard quality.
There is ?
Been loking around in the threads for quite a while, but didn't find a replicatable solution...
Here you go
Tried all kind of files, but no go...
All i want is ALL audio over the Carkit (Supertooth2). That is TomTom + Phone.
I don't care if i have to trun of the carkit to return audio to the phone. But i don't want to have to reset or something.
I have a XDA (Himalaya) btw. Still with Rom 1.72 00WWE 15/03/2004 (Ext Rom 1.72.125)
Tried all these :
BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
BA_WM5_Voice_Dialer_2.cab
BCHS_FOR_POCKET_PC_OZONE[1].ARMV4.CAB
Broadcom Corporation BT-PPC AV.cab
Broadcom Stack + Switcher + Icon.zip
BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
BTAGExtModule-2.zip
btagextmodule.zip
btaudio.zip
MS-BT-107.ARMV4.CAB
SCO settings all BT.txt
voicedial2.rar
whoa it worked
i know im reaching here, but really wanted to try to stream to the new cingular 2125 (aka hct). downloaded and ran the app with my iphono steroe headphones (luv em), got intresting results.
it worked. ran the app, pushed the button on the headphones, got music. call came in, answered (with auto answer) talked, and on hangup it went back to music. however, if i ran another app on the phone such as voice tag in contacts to initiate a call, it brought in the call, but on hangup went back to the speaker. had to run the toggle on again to get headphones working, not elegant - always want more - but im a happy guy til a2dp comes out for mobile 5. thanks!
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
Scollinguk said:
try looking at this
http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=54951&perpage=20&pagenumber=1
might be what you need
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Try reading and understanding what you read before posting. See the post of dalamario that is the BTAudio on/off tool !
Is this goingt to be anter shout and wild guesses about what file or tool should "really"work ?
I tried all so called "easy" fixes, hell, i've even got a whole dump of my registry, cut through all the BT + Audio and BT + Headset threads, here and on PDAPhonehome, Howardsforum, and the reduced-to-user-bla-bla on pocketPC-club.nl.
And still zilch.....
Ow, and don't think i'm someone who wants easy answers... Think again, i've been around quite a while on PPC forums and the lot....
What i do want/like is usefull answers ans clues on how this BT and Audio stuff works, beut even after reading some on MSDN i can't find a solution yet....
That's why i jumped in on this thread, i'm not going to reinvent the wheel if some allready has the solution: Tomtom and Phone audio over BT
So i'll stop writing now, and continiu searschin for a solution... There must be one...
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
The Wizard can do system Audio over bluetooth.
This has been proved with the easy hack that allows you to activiate voice dial using a BT headset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29837
MS Voice Command leaves the Audio Gateway open after initialising, whilst Voice Dialler closes it.
So maybe try installing Voice Command and doing the hack in the above referenced thread, and then see if you can launch Voice command from your car kit. This should leve the gateway open and allow all system sounds to stream to your BT kit until you hit the button again.
jpiek said:
Try reading and understanding what you read before posting.
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Try keeping Himalaya talk in the Himalaya forum then. Posting questions about devices in the wrong forums just causes confusion.
Scollinguk said:
Sorry mr high horse, wont bother trying to help next time just in case i might not be right, but then if everyone did that no one would answer anything.
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Not Mr High Horse, but didn't you look at what you where posting ? You should know it linked to the same file, right ? If not, you really would just be 'shouting' ...
It's just that i've been reading XXX threads, and just about everyone comes up with the same, useless, files... Like nowbody really knows how it works and waht should be done to make Audio over BT possible...
We here are all trying real hard for months now, you see....
Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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where is it? i want it! i need it!
ready to test.
Can't share it.
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spoil sport
i won't tell anyone,
got motorola ht850 headphones.
have one question whilst here,
when i am on the underground the headset give a beep to tell me i have no network signal? you may not know the answer but would this over ride the bluetooth stereo signal?
p.s. send me your bank details for the transfer :wink:
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bob]Just a little patience. Test version of Qtek 9100 ROM with A2DP already exists. It works with I-Phono bt-stereo, for example. So I think it will be released by March.
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Do you think that when it works with I-Phono, it will also offer us the navigation voice instructions through BT-headsets or carkits? Hope so!
Can't test it with car navigator.
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
aliendad said:
if audio streaming is enabled, i would have thought you should be able to hear navigation commands.
i have used the bt audio switch that started this thread to hear tomtom commands through my headset, and it works fine.
saves me explaining to my 84 year old dad why yoda is giving me directions :lol:
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It's nice.... I'd really like Tomtom over my carkit... Ohh, the XDA was so much easyer just soldered a Ground and Left/Right channnel into my TomTom/Leadtec connector, and plugged it in to my JVC Front-in line...
I bought the Qtec 2020 because BT seemd so much easyer
i've been looking for the answer ( i think it should have been something that more people are suffering from but i was wrong )
i have a new headset. the sony hbh-ds970 nifty little thing. however when i'm receiving a call i only see the phone number on the screen. is there a way to display the name that the call is from when it is in my phonebook?
p.s. i'm using that upgrade to enable a2dp
Yes I know, it's really hard to find something here. Indeed there are more people than only you, who would like this feature to be supported! But bad news! Please read my little review of the headset in combination with the Magician in the A2DP thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=337217#337217! So far only the point that MortPlayer does not support AVRCP is outdated.
The short conclusion, that matches also this thread is: "To sum up, the HBH-DS970 is a high quality product and the "Walkman" logo on it is justified. Only the Magician is not an equal counterpart to it."
well i'm willing to start on such an application. but i was looking yesterday, and since havn't found any sdk for the ppc2003se bluetooth stack. No api, actually finding info on a2dp or avrcd was pretty hard to come by.
Can anyone point me in the right direction (sdk for the ppc2003se bluetoothstack?)
i have some good ideas on how to implement the stuff.
That would be really nice! But I don't know if there is an SDK for the stack, maybe ask in a seperate thread!?
hmm why does the caller id sometimes work and sometimes not? i just got a call from a friend, and his name was in the screen, after the call i tried to phone and i got the right name in screen... pretty weird :S
Guys,
try this app (JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones) @ http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm
It works!
The best option until M$ decides to implement it by their own in BT stack...
Conchas said:
Guys,
try this app (JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones) @ http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm
It works!
The best option until M$ decides to implement it by their own in BT stack...
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I mentioned this already and it does NOT work for me!
Unauthorized said:
I mentioned this already and it does NOT work for me!
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Luckily, It work with my magician, Name of incoming call display correctly in Sony DS970 bluetooth
I used to use MSVC 1.6 on the Tytn2 on WM6.5 (see sig) and the confirmation notifications when you called someone always used the bluetooth headset. Since running it on the Leo MSVC seems to use the loudspeaker on the handset instead of the bluetooth headset even though every setting is marked as "Announce notifications using Bluetooth hands free only"
Anyone else having this issue as I did a search and couldn't find anyone.
Edit: Just had it working once but then the other end couldn't hear me when the call connected. Then I tried again and it had reverted back to not working.
I went to Bluetooth settings, Advanced, Audio and ticked the box then rebooted the phone...
I have this same problem! Its annoying... you want to make a call and the prompts/confirmation come from the phone... Please, can someone figure this out?
Bumping thread as it should be resolvable
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Bumping thread as it should be resolvable
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IT isn't... I have done more research..
The Leo (and the TouchPro2) use a Widcomm BT stack as opposed to the usual MS stack. Sadly, this means the BT won't play nice with a lot of different apps/equipment. This isn't something that can be swapped out easily as NRG has pointed out. Touch Pro 2 users are still facing the same problems even though that phone was released much earlier. Some however have reported some success when using certain custom ROMS... how its working with some ROMS and not others is still a mystery it seems
I would watch the ROM Development thread carefully to see if a ROM what works with our MSVC shows up....
Hello,
Is there a workaround... ?
Thanks in advance for any info,
Jean-Jacques
I have the same problem. I'm using an old phone when I need to use hands-free. After spending a lot of money on my HD2, I'm not impressed.
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?
have you tried this?
I would, but I don't know if I even have voice command on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634494
DrATty said:
I there a particular combination of headset and software that does work, especially for voice dialing?
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Does not work with my helmet bike with scala-rider Q2, but does with does with Philips SH9000 stereo headset...
Mono/Stereo seems to matter.
Any workaround would be veryyyy appreciated
Jean-Jacques
Workaround
Hi,
for this following workaround seems the only way to get it runnin:
My BT-Headset has the ability to be set as a Stereo-Device. When I establish a connection to this Stereo-Device, I can use it (my BT Headset) to give Commands and recieve "answers" from the VC. In case I want to start a phone-Call, my headset changes the connection automatically from "Stereo-Device" to "Handsfree-Device" and back, after finishing the Call.
This may be the Reason, why someone here already got it running with a BT-Stereo-Headset.?
Sorry for my bad english...
Got the phone on the second day it was available. Upgrade from the Touch HD. Nice phone in general. The problem I ran into was Microsoft voicecommand would not announce incoming calls through the bluetooth headset no matter what changes and adjustments tried it would only announce through the phone speaker. I had this working on the Touch HD fine. Spent the entire day with T-mobile tech support which was not very helpful on matters of anything technical. Then called HTC tech support and spent about an hour and a half trying to get it to work. The answer HTC gave me was my headset was not compatable. I have three different bluetooth headsets none of which they could get to work. I asked the tech what headset HTC tested with this phone and I would gladly purchase that brand. His answer was he did not know. My answer, this does not function on this phone and was not tested. Has anyone else tried to get bluetooth caller id working and if so what were your results. I have since returned the phone till this is resolved if ever.
has anyone tried caller id announce incoming calls on their bluetooth? Am I the only one having this issue. Could someone please test this on their HD2 and let me know if it works for them.
Thanks
It has been a problem on the european hd2's also. Since HTC started using the widcom bluetooth stack none of the existing voice control apps (such as MSVC) are working properly. If you search around you will find a few threads about the same problems with bluetooth headsets.
Thank You very much for your answer. I was hoping that was not the case. I waited for this phone to come out and bought it right away. I use mostly basic functions, phone, voice dialing, appointments etc it was a shame I had to return it the extra features were nice to have and the screen is beautiful. Does anyone know if they are working on an answer for this???
polera257 said:
Thank You very much for your answer. I was hoping that was not the case. I waited for this phone to come out and bought it right away. I use mostly basic functions, phone, voice dialing, appointments etc it was a shame I had to return it the extra features were nice to have and the screen is beautiful. Does anyone know if they are working on an answer for this???
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Try here, good info on this subject. I would like to hear my ringtones in my headset but this is the best answer I have found to this. Hope it helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=654165
Guadm, Thanks for the link. I will give it a read and see what's up. I wish someone could figure what is causing the conflict with caller announce not going through the bluetooth. I got everything else going to bluetooth except caller ID.
polera257 said:
Guadm, Thanks for the link. I will give it a read and see what's up. I wish someone could figure what is causing the conflict with caller announce not going through the bluetooth. I got everything else going to bluetooth except caller ID.
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you are welcome. I am waiting for Blue Ant's T1; it announces the caller by name, and that's good enough for me if I cant get the ringtones.
All,
Does anybody have any fixes regarding the sound quality when using Bluetooth A2DP protocol? I use my Evo to mate with a Bluetooth receiver so I can listen to Rhapsody over my home stereo. The sound quality is flat. The high frequencies are not present. It sounds like a bad quality MP3. I know that its the A2DP causing the quality issue as directly connection (through 3.5 jack) is awsome.
The Apple 3GS A2DP sound quality was awsome. I am not sure why the Evo is not sounding good. Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Lance
use the cyanogen rom--this uses a bitpool of 53 giving you the best bluetooth quality possible. the stock/sprint/htc bluetooth drivers are set for a bitpool of 32
Is there any other ROM that has the bit pool set to 53?
Lance
Nope all Sense roms use HTC's ****ty low bitpool setting. This is why I'm running CM as well it's the only rom I can A2DP to my Sony Head unit and get good audio. I attempted to contact HTC about this issue here's the juicy details
Here's my initial question
I have terrible static when streaming music over A2DP on my HTC EVO to my sony mex-bt2800 car radio. If I use CyanogenMod 6.0 which uses a open source bluetooth stack my A2DP is crystal clear to my radio. I have used logcat to look at whats going on I dont know if its a bitrate problem or a bitpool problem or if my radio isn't in your acoustic database.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708265&highlight=bluetooth+bitrate
Here's the response I received
Although the android software has been updated to be more compatible with Bluetooth headsets and car kits. Most of the time a Bluetooth manufacturer will have a list on there website stating devices they have found compatible, but this is not always the case. From the information on your issue it seems that your device is simply not fully compatible. The only thing we would be able to recommend would be to try another headset.
Then my response back
I would like an Engineer to read my question if possible since I don't think you fully grasp what I'm saying here. First My EVO's Bluetooth A2DP WORKS 100% clearly when using a Open Source ROM which implements Bluez Bluetooth stack http://www.bluez.org/
When I run your Sense UI ROM the Stock ROM you release which uses your own proprietary Bluetooth Stack I get static in the background so you cant really say its my phone now can you? Its your implementation that's not working properly. I'm not about to try every car stereo till I find one that works with the EVO when I know my stereo can work perfectly with my phone when using a properly coded open source Bluetooth stack.
Here is some extra info from a logcat that shows how your Bluetooth makes a connection through A2DP and what I believe is too low of a bitrate or bitpool setting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708265&highlight=bluetooth+bitrate
PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME A ANSWER THAT YOU JUST READ FROM A SCRIPT. I would like a true response from someone who understands and can grasp my question fully like an engineer or a developer, when you give me a generic response of oh your Bluetooth headset isn't compatible keep buying new ones till you find one that works, that really makes me upset since you didn't even read my question it's a car stereo and there not cheap.
I await your educated answer.
And there final bull**** reply
We apologies for any inconvenience you may be experiencing. We will document your concern for review in development of our upcoming devices and future software updates. The situation is still an incompatibility with our device and your car kit weather on software or a hardware level. Unfortunately at this we have no further information beyond what has already been provided.
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Nope all Sense roms use HTC's ****ty low bitpool setting. This is why I'm running CM as well it's the only rom I can A2DP to my Sony Head unit and get good audio. I attempted to contact HTC about this issue here's the juicy details
Here's my initial question
I have terrible static when streaming music over A2DP on my HTC EVO to my sony mex-bt2800 car radio. If I use CyanogenMod 6.0 which uses a open source bluetooth stack my A2DP is crystal clear to my radio. I have used logcat to look at whats going on I dont know if its a bitrate problem or a bitpool problem or if my radio isn't in your acoustic database.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708265&highlight=bluetooth+bitrate
Here's the response I received
Although the android software has been updated to be more compatible with Bluetooth headsets and car kits. Most of the time a Bluetooth manufacturer will have a list on there website stating devices they have found compatible, but this is not always the case. From the information on your issue it seems that your device is simply not fully compatible. The only thing we would be able to recommend would be to try another headset.
Then my response back
I would like an Engineer to read my question if possible since I don't think you fully grasp what I'm saying here. First My EVO's Bluetooth A2DP WORKS 100% clearly when using a Open Source ROM which implements Bluez Bluetooth stack http://www.bluez.org/
When I run your Sense UI ROM the Stock ROM you release which uses your own proprietary Bluetooth Stack I get static in the background so you cant really say its my phone now can you? Its your implementation that's not working properly. I'm not about to try every car stereo till I find one that works with the EVO when I know my stereo can work perfectly with my phone when using a properly coded open source Bluetooth stack.
Here is some extra info from a logcat that shows how your Bluetooth makes a connection through A2DP and what I believe is too low of a bitrate or bitpool setting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708265&highlight=bluetooth+bitrate
PLEASE DON'T GIVE ME A ANSWER THAT YOU JUST READ FROM A SCRIPT. I would like a true response from someone who understands and can grasp my question fully like an engineer or a developer, when you give me a generic response of oh your Bluetooth headset isn't compatible keep buying new ones till you find one that works, that really makes me upset since you didn't even read my question it's a car stereo and there not cheap.
I await your educated answer.
And there final bull**** reply
We apologies for any inconvenience you may be experiencing. We will document your concern for review in development of our upcoming devices and future software updates. The situation is still an incompatibility with our device and your car kit weather on software or a hardware level. Unfortunately at this we have no further information beyond what has already been provided.
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Well I commend you for trying. This is something that makes me want to tear my hair out so I would love to see this resolved as well.
good on ya mate.
anyone know how to get another bluetooth stack on stock rooted 2.2?
I asked Flipz a while ago but I don't think he's looking into it. I also asked Netarchy he said he would look into it sometime but that i shouldn't hold my breath since he hadn't even looked at the code yet. HTC has released the source for their Bluez implementation so all we need is a dev willing to look into adjusting the bitpool setting.
This is a HUGE problem. I am flashing CM6 right now. HTC I am very disappointed with you..
The cyanogen rom also has great dsp equalizer
CyanogenMod will also make you a tropical island than transform your EVO into a jet plane and take you there ;-)
But in all seriousness, yeah, CM6 has BT fixed. One of my friends nagged Cyanogen about it last month, and he patched it right away.
I wish somebody could help us by increasing the bitpool on the Bluetooth driver. The Evo would be so much more enjoyable (for me at least) if the sound quality was better thru A2DP.
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Is there any other ROM that has the bit pool set to 53?
Lance
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It would be nice if there can be a patch of some sort...
Just an update today I got a call from HTC customer service since i gave a poor review of my experience on a survey they sent me. Talked in great detail about our problem with the Bluetooth stack told him about the bitpool setting how its 53 on CM and 35 on there roms. So hopefully on the next update well get a fix for the Stock Sense UI rom.
^^LMAO!!! dont blv the hype
I read that the CM6 ROM has this issue fixed. I have also read reports that the ROM email client doesn't support word wrapping (which I really do need). Can anybody confirm this?
Also,
Can anybody in ROM land please create a patch or an update to their ROM which increases the Bitpool to 53? I understand that the Bluetooth driver code has been released.
Thanks
bump............
any roms address this yet?
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any roms address this yet?
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maybe:
* Added DSP Manager (Digital Signal Processing) to boost audio and equalize sound for Headset, Phone Speaker and Bluetooth devices.
wont let me post links, but you know what to do:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793471
I am using the latest OTA, rooted, along with the latest pandora and the bt audio quality is much better. I have the motorola t605.
With the initial 2.2 update bt quality sucked but now it's better.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
mchlwvr614 said:
I am using the latest OTA, rooted, along with the latest pandora and the bt audio quality is much better. I have the motorola t605.
With the initial 2.2 update bt quality sucked but now it's better.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App
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That was a streaming issue, not a bitpool issue.
The BT audio was a lot better on my TP2 when I updated the registry bitpool to 48 from 32.
I wish they would fix it.