Extreme Lag in gaming apps - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've installed full Android on my shield TV. I have an issue with extreme lag using a ps4 and shield gamepads usb wired. Its very strange because in the stock Android interface everything works flawless. But when I use GeForce Now i get extreme lag on button presses where i have to hold face buttons for about 2 seconds to get a response. But this only happens when a game is loaded. When im in the GeForce Now Menu my conttoller works and response is fine. Same thing with RetroArch. Ive tried bluetooth with my PS4 controller and I get the same result.
Also, how would i be able to get my Shield gamepad working wirelessly?? I heard something about using with droidmote client server but its not really clear to me.
Can somebody help me figure this out? I switched to Full Android for more freedom and apps but if I cant use my controllers then i will have to revert to rooted stock firmware for my shield.

You're probably going to want to go back to stock firmware then. There is no fix for getting the Nvidia wireless controllers working with Full Android. This is due to the closed source nature of the wireless controller drivers.

But what about other controllers like PS4? I heard PS4 can work wirelessy and Shield controller can work wired

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Fire TV stick works with limelight

Sideloaded Limelight with the FireTV utility
Connected my Ouya bluetooth controller
Used Settings.apk and connected my HP bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the fire TV stick
Now playing all my steam games on the stick, streaming at 30 fps, just letting people know it works.
Need a better controller because the ouya doesn't have a start and select button but meh.
How to Sideload apps ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/fire-tv-stick-how-to-sideload-install-t2954744
Limelight Use non rooted ==> https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-android/releases
Settings apk i downloaded from this ==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714494
Hey buddy, what is your complete set up like? Do you have a Dual Band router? Why are you getting 30 FPS? I should be getting my Stick soon so I am just wondering if 60 FPS is even possible on that hardware.
Also is that 720p30 or 1080p30?
Tested it at 1080p with 30 fps, dual band router, I have an ouya controller which i know works under andriod, but it doesn't have a start and select button, so i'm concidering getting one of the amazon controllers instead, the settings.apk will allow you to attach a bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Okay thanks for getting back to us, one more question though; whats the benefit of side-loading limelight on there? Why not just get limelight from the Amazon's Appstore? I installed limelight from that store and it seems to be working fine, but I could not get my controller connected as of yet so couldn't fully test it.
how do you pair the moga to the fire tv? neither the controller setting in the UI finds it, nor the settings apk finds it but never says connected
I don't know, I don't have the moga, but you should be able to put it into bluetooth pairing mode and use the UI of the stick, it says it supports the moga.. I've paired an Ouya and a Nyko Playpad pro, which is what i'm currently using and works great (after firmware update) like a 360 controller.
works great but my bluetooth mouse is really laggy
rmg said:
works great but my bluetooth mouse is really laggy
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Every input device in Limelight is going to be laggy. The FTV box is never going to get less than 40ms lag in Limelight no matter what, and the stick's specs are quite a bit worse than the box, so don't expect any miracles. I've been playing GTAV all day today through Limelight on my FTV and it works fairly well as long as auto aim is turned on, but precision aiming just isn't realistic with this much lag.

DualShock4 Controller/Gamepad Compatibility

From my understanding the DualShock4 PS4 Controller will work with the Shield TV when using USB/OTG cable. Has anyone tried pairing over Bluetooth?
I think the PS4 pad is the most balanced gamepad for thew type of gaming I do(mostly emu/retro gaming and occasional Android native games)and before I order one Id really like to hear from anyone who uses different types of gamepads
Yes, it works with the regular USB cable.
The PS4 controller can connect wirelessly to any android device using the closed source paid app Sixaxis Controller available on Google Play. This works quite well. If you adjust the settings and default mapping it can work just like a native Android gamepad and start the service on boot. Having tried it on my 16 GB model there are two caviats. Firstly it overrides the Bluetooth hardware to simulate a PS4, so you can't simultaneously connect any normal Bluetooth devices (such as the Shield remote). Luckily the Shield gamepad uses WiFi-direct. Secondly, for some reason the D-pad is unavailable during the gameplay of some games. This is no good for playing Half-Life 2. Also the non-default mapping doesn't play well with GTA San Andreas. Despite these issues I'm still glad I bought the Dualshock 4 (I don't have a PS4) because it's the nicest physical gamepad I've used, and the two issues I've listed are only software problems. My LG G3 running CM 12.1 nightlies can connect to the Dualshock 4 without the app but doesn't map well. Another cool thing about the Sixaxis Controller is that you can use the touchpad as a mousepad. Great for sideloaded apps. Oh and you need root to use Sixaxis Controller.
Got it. I was aware of sixaxxis for other android tablets/phones Ive used but for some reason I thought I had seen a youtube video of someone simply pairing a PS4 gamepad using the native Bluetooth pairing process. I may have been looking at a video of another device, not the ShieldTV
My Sony TV with built in Android TV has drivers for a PS4 Controllers to used via bluetooth, is there anyway I can extract the files to be used with the Shield TV?
Did you root the shield tv in order to use the sixaxis? Or did you change the master address and then pair as normal on the shield tv?
BenjiHansell said:
The PS4 controller can connect wirelessly to any android device using the closed source paid app Sixaxis Controller available on Google Play. This works quite well. If you adjust the settings and default mapping it can work just like a native Android gamepad and start the service on boot. Having tried it on my 16 GB model there are two caviats. Firstly it overrides the Bluetooth hardware to simulate a PS4, so you can't simultaneously connect any normal Bluetooth devices (such as the Shield remote). Luckily the Shield gamepad uses WiFi-direct. Secondly, for some reason the D-pad is unavailable during the gameplay of some games. This is no good for playing Half-Life 2. Also the non-default mapping doesn't play well with GTA San Andreas. Despite these issues I'm still glad I bought the Dualshock 4 (I don't have a PS4) because it's the nicest physical gamepad I've used, and the two issues I've listed are only software problems. My LG G3 running CM 12.1 nightlies can connect to the Dualshock 4 without the app but doesn't map well. Another cool thing about the Sixaxis Controller is that you can use the touchpad as a mousepad. Great for sideloaded apps. Oh and you need root to use Sixaxis Controller.
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aggiemarine07 said:
Did you root the shield tv in order to use the sixaxis? Or did you change the master address and then pair as normal on the shield tv?
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I rooted in order to use the Sixaxis Controller app. I never managed to pair it to the Shield TV via normal bluetooth (like I can with my phone). And the master address needs to be changed either way.
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I rooted in order to use the Sixaxis Controller app. I never managed to pair it to the Shield TV via normal bluetooth (like I can with my phone). And the master address needs to be changed either way.
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yeah I rooted my shield TV last night and using the Sixaxis appto run my Dualshock4 controller. Worked like a charm.
does the siaxais controller ps4 work with the nvidia shield for multiplayer?
The Sixaxis Controller app claims to be able to handle multiple PlayStation controllers but I haven't tested this. I can confirm that it works multiplayer using a DS4 and Shield Controller (which uses WiFi direct, so isn't affected by Sixaxis Controller overriding the Bluetooth hardware). Interestingly the DS4 now pairs with the Shield TV (via Bluetooth, without Sixaxis or root) and maps correctly as of firmware v2.1. Unfortunately it misses button presses and it's impossible to turn off the DS4 without unplugging the Shield or unpairing it (and it took about 20 attempts to pair). Sixaxis still works well but require root and disconnects all other Bluetooth devices. I'm fairly sure that you can pair DS4 controllers with Sony Android TVs out of the box.
will it work via a cable connected usb without a need for an app?
i want a second controller not sure which one to get
anyone using this with bluetooth be aware: if you leave the sixaxis app running for too long with dualshock bluetooth enabled, it may eventually disable bluetooth on your device when trying to go back.
ive been through 2 different nexus players, as well as a shield tv and all have ended up disabling OS bluetooth, even when turning off the sixaxis bluetooth, resulting in requring either a factory reset or android terminal installed and typing in some commands to get it to work again. What causes the issue seems to be random, as sometimes i can leave the app running and come back and it still works, other times it doesnt though. you can still use the nvidia controller since it runs via wifi, but the remote and any other bluetooth devices wont work. this issue is a random event and doesnt always occur, but it IS there, and its a pain to get it working again.
Perhaps someone can find a compatible app to sideload to enable/disable bluetooth in case this happens? would be much easier than typing in terminal commands.
does itwork fine wired ? and is it a better controler
unvaluablespace said:
anyone using this with bluetooth be aware: if you leave the sixaxis app running for too long with dualshock bluetooth enabled, it may eventually disable bluetooth on your device when trying to go back.
ive been through 2 different nexus players, as well as a shield tv and all have ended up disabling OS bluetooth, even when turning off the sixaxis bluetooth, resulting in requring either a factory reset or android terminal installed and typing in some commands to get it to work again. What causes the issue seems to be random, as sometimes i can leave the app running and come back and it still works, other times it doesnt though. you can still use the nvidia controller since it runs via wifi, but the remote and any other bluetooth devices wont work. this issue is a random event and doesnt always occur, but it IS there, and its a pain to get it working again.
Perhaps someone can find a compatible app to sideload to enable/disable bluetooth in case this happens? would be much easier than typing in terminal commands.
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Yeah, I experienced the same issues in just my first time pairing a DS4 controller with the Sixaxis app... Also, like others mentioned on here, the default layout is a bit weird (Options=Select; Share=Back, etc) which means a lot of customizing in games, etc. Also, the service doesn't always auto-start that well so sometimes it takes some time to get it 'connected and ready to go' and I don't like how the app takes over Bluetooth while it's running. The only thing I did like is that the touchpad feature does work well (as long as the app supports 'Mouse input'), but overall I didn't think it's worth the hassle if I have to this every time I want to use the controller.
BTW, in case your Bluetooth becomes disabled while using this app, the command that worked for me (in adb shell) is:
Code:
su
service call bluetooth_manager 6
Has anyone successfully paired the shield with a DS4 without the sixaxis app? My shield can see the controller (listed as wireless controller) but they can't seem to pair.
finty said:
Has anyone successfully paired the shield with a DS4 without the sixaxis app? My shield can see the controller (listed as wireless controller) but they can't seem to pair.
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Bump, Would also like to know!
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Yeah, I experienced the same issues in just my first time pairing a DS4 controller with the Sixaxis app... Also, like others mentioned on here, the default layout is a bit weird (Options=Select; Share=Back, etc) which means a lot of customizing in games, etc. Also, the service doesn't always auto-start that well so sometimes it takes some time to get it 'connected and ready to go' and I don't like how the app takes over Bluetooth while it's running. The only thing I did like is that the touchpad feature does work well (as long as the app supports 'Mouse input'), but overall I didn't think it's worth the hassle if I have to this every time I want to use the controller.
BTW, in case your Bluetooth becomes disabled while using this app, the command that worked for me (in adb shell) is:
Code:
su
service call bluetooth_manager 6
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Same thing happened to me although I only had the app for about 2 hours before it disabled BT. I couldn't get it to work while installed, and i am rooted. I don't believe it works in the newest firmware 3.0.
What did you use to write those commands? Would adb minimalist work? Same app used to root the shield?
Sent from my Sammy S6 using Revolution 1.0
mattkilla420 said:
Same thing happened to me although I only had the app for about 2 hours before it disabled BT. I couldn't get it to work while installed, and i am rooted. I don't believe it works in the newest firmware 3.0.
What did you use to write those commands? Would adb minimalist work? Same app used to root the shield?
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Well, I used the Nvidia Shield TV Utility App to get into an adb shell, but Minimal should work just as well. Just make sure to run the 'adb shell' command before you run the commands I listed on my post above..
I used terminal Emulator on the device and it worked great. Turned BT back on
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Before rooting and buying the app I'd know if I can connect more than DS4 via bluetooth.. Anyone tried it?
thanks!

Xbox 360 Controller issues with local multiplayer through Gamestream/Moonlight

Hi everyone! This might be a long post, but I figured I'll give as much detail as I can in the first post. I recently got an Nvidia Shield TV over the holidays and I've been loving it, incredibly powerful device that's totally exceeded my expectations. However I've been having one nagging issue, and that is in the topic of getting 4 controllers to work through Gamestream/Moonlight.
To give a quick background on what I'm working with - I have a Shield Gamepad with an official Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless USB Receiver and 3 Xbox 360 Gamepads.
With Gamestream, multi controller support doesn't seem to work at all. When disabled, the Shield Gamepad works perfectly without a hitch in single player games. However, as soon as I turn it on through the menu, the controller instantly stops working. I can still navigate the menus of Gamestream, but the actual input of my controller is no longer being sent to my PC in the other room.
Now, Moonlight seems to solve this problem, but only partially. Installed with no customizations, Moonlight will support multiple controllers, but will stop at 3, meaning that I can have my Shield Gamepad and two Xbox 360 controllers functional, but the last controller's input will not go through, even though it is connected to the receiver and able to send inputs to the Shield itself.
I am able to get all 4 controllers working simultaneously with Dolphin, Mupen64Plus AE, ePSXe... You get the picture. It works GREAT with everything, but I have these weird issues whenever I try to get this to work with the official Gamestream app and Moonlight.
I've tried even hooking up a wired Xbox 360 controller to the Shield in an attempt to fix both issues, but the same thing happens. Weirdly enough, when I go to my PC and hook up a controller, then that controller can take over the 4th controller slot! But then you have 3 people gaming in one room with the last player in a completely separate room using the PC.
Thank you so much for reading!
TL;DR - Gamestream multi controller support doesn't function at all, no controller input will go through. Moonlight only supports 3 controllers, but for some reason not 4. Using Shield Gamepad + Xbox 360 Controllers.
Anybody know the solution? I'm still running into issues with this
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Anybody know the solution? I'm still running into issues with this
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when you start a stream, as soon as the game starts, hold the Play/Pause button. A new menu will pop up and on the right side is a 3-dot menu. Select "multi-controller" enabled. You have to do this with each stream.
I just bought a 2nd Shield controller a couple days ago, and through my adventures trying to get multiplayer in gamestream i stumbled on this menu. Don't know why nvidia "hid" it in a menu rather than having a giant button on the screen or something.
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when you start a stream, as soon as the game starts, hold the Play/Pause button. A new menu will pop up and on the right side is a 3-dot menu. Select "multi-controller" enabled. You have to do this with each stream.
I just bought a 2nd Shield controller a couple days ago, and through my adventures trying to get multiplayer in gamestream i stumbled on this menu. Don't know why nvidia "hid" it in a menu rather than having a giant button on the screen or something.
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The weird thing is that whenever I try that, controller inputs on Gamestream stop working entirely.
I guess that's partially irrelevant now though. My Gamestream app has decided to stop working entirely (claims my PC is asleep when it's not). I now use moonlight for all my Gamstreaming purposes, but am still running into issues with the 3 controller cap.

Problems with my nvidia shield controller

I have the iptv stb emulator pro i have the old and new emulator problem is i cant control anything from the nvidia shield controller joysticks and dpad doesnt work and the buttons dont work in the app and for another app for watching tv same issue occurs cant control it in app ive been using it for a while and it stopped working thought it was something on my end. I can control with no problem on the nvidia shield home screen. i can only use a keyboard for apps this just started happening a few days ago for some of my apps factory reset didn't help anyone knows whats going on?

Status on the Xbox One S bluetooth controller?

Just wanted to know if there has been any updates on the Nvidia Shield TVs' support for the Xbox One S controller? I don't really like the feel of the Shield controller and I've always liked the Xbox controllers, so I'm considering purchasing a couple of them to use for GameStream on the Nvidia Shield.
I've read posts on here and various other forums about how well this controller works, and came to the following conclusion:
#1: You need to update the controller to the latest firmware to fix button mapping.
#2: The controller needs to be re-paired each time the Shield reboots.
#3: Rumble doesn't work.
Is #2 and #3 still the case? Or has that been solved recently? If not, can you recommend me another wireless controller that works well with the Shield?

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