6.0 update external storage? - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ater I update to 6.0 and the external sd card is formated that means I will lose all the apps and games I have already moved to the ext car correct? Because there is still data on the internal storage of those apps and games will the apps and games automatically download again or will I have to download each one myself?

Yes, it will format your SD and put an encryption key on it. You won't be able to use the SD on any other machine except for the one that formatted it.

Neo3D said:
Yes, it will format your SD and put an encryption key on it. You won't be able to use the SD on any other machine except for the one that formatted it.
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I understand that but what happens to the games and apps I have moved there?

lartomar2002 said:
I understand that but what happens to the games and apps I have moved there?
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When you format a card, everything on the card turns into unicorns and rainbows!

Neo3D said:
When you format a card, everything on the card turns into unicorns and rainbows!
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So, in other words you do not know? Or you want to make fun of me because you are more knowledgeable in this area than me.

lartomar2002 said:
So, in other words you do not know? Or you want to make fun of me because you are more knowledgeable in this area than me.
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Formatting a memory card will delete everything on it. Backup the existing data and then copy it back on after the format process. But, you'll have to use the device to copy because the card will be encrypted.

I think the interesting question, which also I don't know an answer to, is this:
lartomar2002 said:
.... will the apps and games automatically download again or will I have to download each one myself?
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FearlessSpiff said:
I think the interesting question, which also I don't know an answer to, is this:
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You have to do it manually. Android doesn't know which apps you want on the Ext-SD or the internal storage.
The safest way to do this would seem to be:
-uninstall all apps currently on SD
-reinstall after SD format
If you want to preserve any other type of existing data, back it up somewhere else, then re-copy back onto the SD.

Neo3D said:
You have to do it manually.
The safest way to do this would seem to be:
-uninstall all apps currently on SD
-reinstall after SD format
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There is no need to uninstall apps on SD.
There will be a persistent notification that asks if you want to forget the SD Card (that you had earlier formatted it as Internal i.e. Adopted Storage).
If you confirm, the encryption key will be deleted from the phone, and apps stored on MicroSD won't be readable by your phone or any other device.
The question: if automatic downloading of apps will occur has been answered above by Neo3D.

And when the external sd stop working, the system crash ?

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New Micro SD CARD- Transfer

Hi Guys, just bought meself a new 16gb micro sd card.
How can I transfer or make an image of the old card to the new one? I have many installed applications on my old card, I don't want to go through the daunting process of having to reinstall every single application.
Any help would be appreciated.
Copy the contents of the old card to your computer, then write them back to the new card.
Everything should work just the way it did before.
as above, just copy everything to the new card, , , just make sure you have hidden and system files visible before you copy/paste them.
erosennin said:
Hi Guys, just bought meself a new 16gb micro sd card.
How can I transfer or make an image of the old card to the new one? I have many installed applications on my old card, I don't want to go through the daunting process of having to reinstall every single application.
Any help would be appreciated.
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Although you can transfer an image from one card to another its really not recommended for the stable running of the device especially after a ROM flash.
pa49 said:
Although you can transfer an image from one card to another its really not recommended for the stable running of the device especially after a ROM flash.
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Moving your stuff from one card to another has absolutely no influence on how the device runs. Unless the new card is defective, of course
Thanks guys, am abroad at the moment. The moment I get home, I'll try as you suggested.
Thanks again
kilrah said:
Moving your stuff from one card to another has absolutely no influence on how the device runs. Unless the new card is defective, of course
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That's just wrong!
You may get away with it but all settings and associations will be for the previous ROM and could be totally inappropriate!
WTF, we are on about moving stuff from one card to another.
Nothing to do with ROMs!
Your storage card is only for storage - ie it does not matter if you copy your files from (lets say) a smaller SD to a bigger one.
possible complications: having programs installed on the sd card.... here you could get error messages when you take the card out for the copy process. Nevermind them though as you take the card out, do your copying and then shove the new card back in....
after that just do a safety reboot and you should be fine
pa49 said:
That's just wrong!
You may get away with it but all settings and associations will be for the previous ROM and could be totally inappropriate!
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Then you obviously didn't read what the thread was about.. The guy just has a new card and wants to copy the contents of the old one to it. Nothing about ROMs, settings etc...
Put my old card into the comp, copied everything, pasted into a folder on the desktop then dropped it all onto my new card, put it back in the phone, turned it on and everything works fine
hollinshead said:
WTF, we are on about moving stuff from one card to another.
Nothing to do with ROMs!
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The OP mentioned installed apps on a mem card and excuse me but that DOES have something to do with ROMs.
Now you are wrong!
And before this goes any further you all believe what you want and do what you want because there's none so blind as those who will not see.
I shall not be posting further after those sort of comments, hollinshea!
pa49 said:
The OP mentioned installed apps on a mem card and excuse me but that DOES have something to do with ROMs.
Now you are wrong!
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No! A storage card is just that, a disk with a filesystem and files on it. If you copy the same files onto another card, there's no way the system can even see anything has changed, apps or no apps. It's not about deleting/adding stuff, just having exactly the same data.
We don't "believe" anything - it's just how it is.
kilrah said:
No! A storage card is just that, a disk with a filesystem and files on it. If you copy the same files onto another card, there's no way the system can even see anything has changed, apps or no apps. It's not about deleting/adding stuff, just having exactly the same data.
We don't "believe" anything - it's just how it is.
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+1 on this.

Getting a new SD card. Q's about App2SD, Swap

I'm currently running cyanogenmod 5.0.8, and my 8GB A-Data class 6 SD card should be here soon.
I downloaded a program called swapper 2 and it seems to be working. When I get the new SD card should I stick with this program or do the partition method? Does anyone have experience with this program compaired to the other methods?
I also have Comp cache enabled too. Any thoughts on if I should use both or one?
For App2SD I noticed in the settings you can enable it there but its grayed out. I imagine once I put the new SD card in there it will partition the space for it then?
Thanks for the help. If you have any links to some good info that would be great too.
I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).
AdrianK said:
I think the general consensus is that utilizing a swap partition is much more efficient than creating a swap file on fat32, which figures. Just out of curiosity, does your homescreen reload?
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Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
AdrianK said:
EDIT: Just noticed your A2SD question, it's greyed out because you need to add an ext2/3/4 partition. That's for unofficial Apps2SD which is a hack-job, Google has implimented an official A2SD method in FroYo, however the developer has to specify whether you can Apps2SD-ify their app (I assume because their method moves the apk to the sdcard which can be shared with others, increasing the chance of piracy).
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Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!
Njord0 said:
Not sure what you mean by 'does your homescreen reload'. It usually does reappear when I exit an app, but sometimes all the icons/widgets are gone and I have to restart to get them back. Although this happened before I used swapper 2 aswell. doesnt happen very offten.
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Yeah I mean when it has to redraw everything when it gets kicked out of memory. It used to happen every time I excited an app on CM5 and CM6 (nightly build), but now that I've added a 32mb swap file with swapper2 (it doesn't like my partition :'( ) they've all disappeared.
Njord0 said:
Good to know that not every app can be put on the sd card. I didn't know that. When I get the new SD card and format a ~512mb ext4 partition; will it automatically move the apps to the sd card, will I have to reinstall the apps to move them, or is that grayed out option (app2sd in settings) allow me to choose (rather attempt, if the program allows for it) which apps to put to the sd card?
Thanks!
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The ext/hackjob method will let you keep any apps on SD
I'm not sure if it will move them for you, but you can physically move the files yourself. It's just a couple of commands in the terminal in a reboot (wont get in to it now, it's 3AM and I'm tired, so I'll probably get it wrong ).
I would like to say that I've always used a partition. In the case that swap kills my SDCard, I would like it to be a certain fraction of the SDCard that dies, not a block here and a block there. I think that's more ocd, though.

Messy sd card

I installed all my apps in internal memory ...
but all these apps created ''messy'' folders in my sd card ... making it even more messy.
Is there a way to ''ask'' these apps to install in specific sd card folder??
like \\sd\apps\data\
If you mean Froyo apps2sd they are all stored in a folder called .android_secure
Some apps also create folders on the SDcard for storing data regardless if you installed it on sd or internal.. Thats the developers choice I guess, where to put them.
ranchu said:
I installed all my apps in internal memory ...
but all these apps created ''messy'' folders in my sd card ... making it even more messy.
Is there a way to ''ask'' these apps to install in specific sd card folder??
like \\sd\apps\data\
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there just app data folders, any you delete will either be restored when you next boot up your fone or next run a certain program so your wasting your time deleting any
They haven't installed on the sdcard. Like others have said, these folders are actually what the app creates to store data on. Some are images the app uses, others may be cached items or backups.
i think what the op means, is,if there is any way to tell the app where to put his data on the sd card, like on windows where you can tell a program where to instal.
and as far as i know that is not possible.
Thats why i have My_Music, My_Wallpapers, My_Ringtones etc. folders in my card, so it can be as messy as it wants, but my own stuff is there in one place. Easy to find.
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dragonithe said:
i think what the op means, is,if there is any way to tell the app where to put his data on the sd card, like on windows where you can tell a program where to instal.
and as far as i know that is not possible.
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Exactly!~

[Q] A problem with Android on my HD2, any suggestions?

hello, i am running mattc froyo1.5b, it is the most stable build for me, when i go to the market i can install apps without any problems but after i exit the app and then go back to using it after a while i become unable to install any app ( when i click on install , it doesnt download the app, and nothing happens to the download progess bar ) i have to shutdown android,restart it and then it will work again.
i tried unmounting the sd card then installing the app but it still won't download
anybody having the same problem? any suggestions?
p.s: i had the same problem with other android builds before mattc froyo 1.5b
not trying to be rude but you should have read the first post more carefully
from the rom thread
MATTC said:
Known problems:
It is easier to list what I know doesn't work.
Certain apps from the market won't install. Neocore is one for example. You have 2 options to get them to work. A) Copy the .apk to your SD card then run it from your phone or B) Unmount your SD card first (Settings > SD Card > Unmount SD Card).
Flashlight app doesn't work. There are some on the market that will work.
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i expect this issue will be fixed in later releases
JJbdoggg said:
not trying to be rude but you should have read the first post more carefully
from the rom thread
i expect this issue will be fixed in later releases
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thanx for ur reply but i actually read that post and it is not the problem that i am getting because i can install the same app that wasnt installing before in the first time but only after i shutdown android and restart
Your sd card is definitely corrupted. Backup your files out of the sd card, use a proper sd card formatter and restore everything back again. Because the card is formatted to fat32, the data.img file of which your actual android data files is stored can become heavily defragmented and causing these issues.
ferdaus said:
Your sd card is definitely corrupted. Backup your files out of the sd card, use a proper sd card formatter and restore everything back again. Because the card is formatted to fat32, the data.img file of which your actual android data files is stored can become heavily defragmented and causing these issues.
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No, please don't use that format tool...read the thread...it's no good...it will format the SD Card as FAT16...which is highly inadvisable...
Use Windows to format the sd card.
the_scotsman said:
No, please don't use that format tool...read the thread...it's no good...it will format the SD Card as FAT16...which is highly inadvisable...
Use Windows to format the sd card.
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Good tip Dave, also large files and sketchy data connections, are problematic. if you are not on WIFI, 3G network inconsistency is a big download killer, unless you have a good network H steady connection, the market is inconsistent. I've found
thank you everybody i formatted my sd card to fat32 and i will check and see if the problem is gone
i formated it to 32 and the problem is still there, any suggestions?? pleassse!! but for me no downlaod from android market ever worked, from other markets they did!

[Q] rooted MOJO: how to move apps to SD card

Hi all,
I successfully rooted my MOJO, but I still don't know how to move games to the SD card. I tried a few apps to achieve this, but none of them seems to work. What am I doing wrong? I hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance!
Are the apps giving you any message? App2SD will say something like "The device does not have real primary external storage, or the Primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device"
You might try this: http://karthikkn.wordpress.com/2013...ard-on-your-android-phone-without-rooting-it/
mjenny82 said:
Hi all,
I successfully rooted my MOJO, but I still don't know how to move games to the SD card. I tried a few apps to achieve this, but none of them seems to work. What am I doing wrong? I hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance!
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Are you sure your SD card is being read by the MOJO?
Format SD Card to FAT format.
Insert Card.
Go to settings, storage, mount sd card.
Mojorising said:
Are you sure your SD card is being read by the MOJO?
Format SD Card to FAT format.
Insert Card.
Go to settings, storage, mount sd card.
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Yes, my SD card is mounted, I can access it by using a file explorer. However I am not able to move games.
@ExtremeRyno Yes, this is exactly what App2SD is saying. Thanks for the link, did you try it out? I don't think this is going to work on the mojo, since it is not possible to connect a USB cable and using ADB. Or am I wrong?
Is nobody here who successfully moved games to SD card? We have root now, so it should be easy, or not?
You can ADB in via network. Get the IP of the mojo from settings->status, then it's just "adb connect ipaddr" so you can try out the link instructions.
Root doesn't always equate to a completely open system. Some devices just don't work with moving apps to an SD card. My A700 doesn't allow it, and I'm rooted, but my NookColor does allow it. I've yet to get my cable delivered, so I can't attest to anything as of yet.
Maybe someone with MadCatz can give an explanation? I know it's an extremely important feature for a gaming console to have enough storage to handle more than ten or so big games at a time.
mjenny82 said:
Is nobody here who successfully moved games to SD card? We have root now, so it should be easy, or not?
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Found a new app today that seems to get around the problems the other apps have: FolderMount. It's free. I plan to try it out as soon as I root...Probably in the next couple days. If you get a chance before me, let us know how it works.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
Also, I'm aware of the double post, but they're days apart and this needed a bump (for great justice, right?)
ExtremeRyno said:
Found a new app today that seems to get around the problems the other apps have: FolderMount. It's free. I plan to try it out as soon as I root...Probably in the next couple days. If you get a chance before me, let us know how it works.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
Also, I'm aware of the double post, but they're days apart and this needed a bump (for great justice, right?)
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Tanks for the tip! I just tried out this app, but unfortunatly it doesn't work. Maybe it works for smaller games, because I was able to move the data to the SD card with it. But if you move big games with OBB data and then start the game, it doesn't find anymore its OBB data and downloads it again.
Also, you can't move back the data from the SD card. I just tried it out with NOVA 3 and I have to redownload the whole game now
It works now, yeehaaa :good:
For some reason, the MOJO needs to be rebooted after moving the OBB data to SD card
Summary:
1. Root the MOJO
2. Format your SD card as a primary partition using fat32
3. Install this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
4. Move OBB data of your games
5. reboot
Remark: If you want to move more than 2 apps/games, you will have to buy the pro version of this app.
Awesome! I tried it out on my tablet last night and moved around a couple games....But never more than two at a time. I had no idea that was actually a limitation, either..Just worked out that way. I'll have to buy the full version as soon as I root.
Excellent news.
Not working
ExtremeRyno said:
Awesome! I tried it out on my tablet last night and moved around a couple games....But never more than two at a time. I had no idea that was actually a limitation, either..Just worked out that way. I'll have to buy the full version as soon as I root.
Excellent news.
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I tried that folder mount and did move the folders,but the internal storage indicates the same as before and the obb data remains in the internal storage as apposed to moving completely to the external.Meaning i don't know why but it doesn't work?I too have rooted my m.o.j.o so it's not because of that either.
PHYSC-1 said:
I tried that folder mount and did move the folders,but the internal storage indicates the same as before and the obb data remains in the internal storage as apposed to moving completely to the external.Meaning i don't know why but it doesn't work?I too have rooted my m.o.j.o so it's not because of that either.
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Okay try again but on a fresh start (on/off).
Maybe you had a process running in the back?
And remember to reboot it after moving.
gwaldo said:
Okay try again but on a fresh start (on/off).
Maybe you had a process running in the back?
And remember to reboot it after moving.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2748087 this works though just been clarified for games being moved.
Unless I am mistaken apps2sd and gl to sd, don't move the data file making them useless in the real world. and I've not looked into it for about 6 months or so, so something might have changed but filemount doesn't work correctly on android 4.2.2 and onwards.
And unfortunately its the same for directory bind (undoubtedly the best mount/binder ever on android) simply amazing application but again it don't like 4.2.2
Not tried directory bind on the mojo cause unless some things changed with it the last few months its not going to work. Also I don't fancy doing anything to the mojo until a Recovery's available and that ain't happening unfortuinately

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