I just found something curious on my Moto G 2015, when the Lux sensor is exposed directly to the sunlight the screen refuse to wake up (with Auto brightness enabled). The same thing happens with the Moto G 2014 WHITE of my coworker.
So i tried to replicate this in my home with a torch, and I found when the torch is really close to the phone the front part of the phone is backlit (Sorry if the term is incorrect), so probably this is causing that the lux sensor fails.
so this isn't replicated in the black model?
I don't know whether it has anything to do with color or the software, but I have the same problem. The display gets set to min brightness in bright sun. Turning the display on/off doesnt help too. Gotta put it in my pocket and take it out., it works sometimes.
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lexer98 said:
I just found something curious on my Moto G 2015, when the Lux sensor is exposed directly to the sunlight the screen refuse to wake up (with Auto brightness enabled). The same thing happens with the Moto G 2014 WHITE of my coworker.
So i tried to replicate this in my home with a torch, and I found when the torch is really close to the phone the front part of the phone is backlit (Sorry if the term is incorrect), so probably this is causing that the lux sensor fails.
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Could you explain your torch experiment? How does the color of the body affect it?
It doesn't behave that way on the Black Moto G 2015.
I have the 2 Gig variant and I've used it countless times in the sun and I've also tried your torch test and it still behaved fine.
I put the torch(switched on) over the LUX sensor and replicated the sunlight but still it behaved the same.
When adaptive brightness is on, it might take some time for the Moto G to adjust its brightness according to the light outside but it does that almost instantly.
It could be a problem with the White variant.
Techguy18 said:
I don't know whether it has anything to do with color or the software, but I have the same problem. The display gets set to min brightness in bright sun. Turning the display on/off doesnt help too. Gotta put it in my pocket and take it out., it works sometimes.
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Could you explain your torch experiment? How does the color of the body affect it?
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The white model doesn't block the light on the frontal area, so this probably is causing the lux sensor fails. About the "experiment", you need a really powerful light to make the lux sensor fails like a flash from a phone, my torch for example doesn't make the sensor go to 65535.
I need to try a frontal skin like a d-brand too see if fix the problem
https://vid.me/BhYE
With the Squid Custom kernel the problem is even worse .... in my case
No such problems here, I did the torch experiment with the led flash of my 1st gen moto g, and it's behaving as it should
lexer98 said:
The white model doesn't block the light on the frontal area, so this probably is causing the lux sensor fails. About the "experiment", you need a really powerful light to make the lux sensor fails like a flash from a phone, my torch for example doesn't make the sensor go to 65535.
I need to try a frontal skin like a d-brand too see if fix the problem
https://vid.me/BhYE
With the Squid Custom kernel the problem is even worse .... in my case
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Wait a minute,
when bright light shines on the lux sensor, it pumps up the brightness.
If the body is white and is leaking light, shouldn't it allow more light to reach the lux sensor and in turn turn the screen brighter?
Btw the lux sensor is located near the front camera with the proximity sensor.
IDK .. because the sensor works perfect when the phone is unlocked. But is really curious that only happens with the White version.
Maybe a different "calibration" is needed for the white version or the light coming from the side is causing misreads on the sensor
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According to the Leo/Linux status wiki (http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Leo/Status) the Ambient Light Sensor is still not working properly.
That would explain why auto backlight adjustment does not work.
However, when in the phone screen the light sensor seems to work in that the screen goes dark when I cover the light sensor, as expected.
So I am curious as to the status of this regarding auto backlight specifically, does anyone have any more concrete info?
Perhaps there are separate light sensors? Or perhaps the light sensor only works in a limited fashion for the time being?
Just curious, not complaining
(P.S. the free "Battery Level" widget from the Market has worked well for me in the absence of auto backlight adjustment, in case others find it useful)
well there's a proximity sensor on the phone that comes into play while you are in an active call. it disables the back as you put the phone to your ear. you were simply simulating that action by covering the sensor with your hand.
Ah ok! Thats what the proximity sensor is. That is indeed marked as working on the status wiki, so that makes sense.
Thanks!
does anyone else get an issue that the G2's backlight for the physical keyboard and capacative buttons have absolutly no idea when to be on and when to be off. I can be in a fully lit room and have the backlight on for no reason at all. is there any way to fix this? it gets very annoying very quickly.
It's a problem with the light sensor, but I think it can be corrected with software. The sensor seems to reflect differences in brightness really well, but the software tends to set everything to levels appropriate for brighter conditions. This leads to full screen brightness and no key backlighting even under dim interior lighting conditions.
my screen is SUPER Bright regardless of ambient light (in automode) I rely on the manual settings.
and yes I do have the same problem ... even on my second g2.
Same here. My backlight and softkeys go on and off randomly while in bright light and checking the time while waking up briefly during the night is painful because it is always extra bright.
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thanks swags. hoping for a software update soon. its really annoying. also is it normal that i get this issue even without auto brightness
Just as the title says-
I am not able to locate the light ambient sensor on my A500 tab- My previous A500 got replaced by acer because the speakers were defective in some way-
I have read that the light sensor is located below the volume rocker and rotation switch on the black glass and can be seen under bright light- i tried every way to find it no success.
I tried "proximityscreenoff" and "sensorlist" from the market. Both of the freewares listed an ambient light sensor on my device as -"Lite-on al3000a Ambient Light sensor"-
BOTH THE APPS COULD NOT GET ANY DATA FROM THE SENSORS :O-
DO we even have a sensor? or is it just me without it?
Can someone please use the apps and tell me if any data is being collected from the sensors?
Highly appreciated- thanks you
I tried with Sensor List and it does indeed show up the sensor, but doesn't seem to be getting any data from it. So it's not just your tablet.
Same thing with "AndroSensor", it shows it but no data change in it either. Hopefully we can figure out what the issues is? Are both of you using the factory install rom? Or a rooted one with a tweaked kernel?
sda.171 said:
Just as the title says-
I am not able to locate the light ambient sensor on my A500 tab- My previous A500 got replaced by acer because the speakers were defective in some way-
I have read that the light sensor is located below the volume rocker and rotation switch on the black glass and can be seen under bright light- i tried every way to find it no success.
I tried "proximityscreenoff" and "sensorlist" from the market. Both of the freewares listed an ambient light sensor on my device as -"Lite-on al3000a Ambient Light sensor"-
BOTH THE APPS COULD NOT GET ANY DATA FROM THE SENSORS :O-
DO we even have a sensor? or is it just me without it?
Can someone please use the apps and tell me if any data is being collected from the sensors?
Highly appreciated- thanks you
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I got Sensorlist and tried it and I do get data from it.
xhz/xxxx or xxxxxms and a red line. The upper limit is 227 and lower limit is -227 and the red checked number changes. It's nowhere as quickscrolling as the other sensors but I get a jagged red line moving across.
okay guyz i think i figured this whole thing out most probably-
I just came back from this electronic store, i closely examined the iconia on display- a500 - noticed the black glass under the volume rocker and rotation lock and THE LIGHT SENSOR WAS THERE! :O - looking like just any ordinary light sensor-
This made me come up to the following conclusions- since i have had another iconia before i returned it for warranty- i was able to identify the following differences-
1st variant-model
Light sensor present
Mic volume low
Volume locker button hard to push
Power button sorta pushed inside
2nd variant model -( the one i currently have)
Light sensor absent? Or hidden under black glass? (Manufacturing defect?)
Loose rotation lock (hardware) toggle
Mic volume high (as in proper)
-(i faced these additional problems)-> glass over the camera came off and the glossy label on the side slipped out.
So if u have the first variant, the one i previously had and the one i examined in the shop today- that should give u data from the light sensor, and the 2nd variant with hidden/absent light sensor won`t.
These are my findings. Feel free to point out and discuss-
What should we do? I m considering a second replacement now -_____-
With AndroSensor app open, try to put some direct light above the sensor and see if it shows some readings. I noticed that the sensor is in a sort of sleep status until it sees some light; after then it kinda wakes up and works properly.
I appear to have what you call the second variant model. I just checked with Androsensor, and the light sensor does appear to be present beneath the black glass, just under the volume up rocker. I agree it does appear to sleep until it senses a light source.
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With AndroSensor app open, try to put some direct light above the sensor and see if it shows some readings. I noticed that the sensor is in a sort of sleep status until it sees some light; after then it kinda wakes up and works properly.
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I just downloaded andro sensor-
Under light sensor it sed-waiting for event-
I took my hd2, turned on the flash! Pointed it right above the sensor and no response, it just kept saying waiting for event- so does this mean i have a defective sensor?
Can this be a kernel/rom related issue?
Pls someone try this and let us all noe.
Thanks
It's a long shot but you might attempt flipping the check mark a few times under the brightness setting and "auto adjust" as that probably toggles the sensor as well, though these apps are supposed to do it. Or close and start the app a few times and then check the sensor. I don't know what activates it but I can confirm that it has some kind of threshold where it sleeps or isn't active and another where it is, so you might want to try various things to, as others have mentioned, wake it up.
Are you using any ROMS by any chance or are you on stock? Have you done any sort of modification of the system - rooted and removed things or replaced kernels, etc?
If you are on a ROM or have done any modifications, you may want to try going back to full stock 3.2 or 3.1 and seeing if that helps before you decide it's actually defective.
Just double checked mine running a 3.2 rooted with thor's kernel. The sensor is working fine. But i did have to uncheck the box for the auto screen brightness to wake it up. Then i used a led maglight on the senor.
Readings from Androsensor:
Light (0.5mA)
55.0 lux
With the maglight cut on it.
65790.0 lux.
Please note with the maglight cut on you can see the light sensor hole then.
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Just double checked mine running a 3.2 rooted with thor's kernel. The sensor is working fine. But i did have to uncheck the box for the auto screen brightness to wake it up. Then i used a led maglight on the senor.
Readings from Androsensor:
Light (0.5mA)
55.0 lux
With the maglight cut on it.
65790.0 lux.
Please note with the maglight cut on you can see the light sensor hole then.
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Same as Killer, seems to be working, rooted 3.2, couldnt see until bright light on it.
Anyone have any idea where the mic(s) are, not really important just wanna know which end to scream into when doing voice search
Mic is located directly in the top center of the front face, in the space between the glass and the bezel. You should be able to see it with just a small amount of light shining on it.
FINALLY!
after various non stop auto brightness toggle on and offs - waiting for event went and 1 lux came xD - i shone light the reading increased - and stopped working agen :|
I dunnu maybe the apps are not fully compatible.
I can say it is working because i changed my brightness to full manually and then turned auto on and the brightness level set itself automatically.
So will we have to wake up the sensor from a state of sleep all the time or is it just for the apps xP - last confusion.
Thanks every1 for ur responses, the mystery is finally coming to an end xD!
(I posted this on the Lenovo site as well.)
Just wanted to report this happening on my xt1644 (US Retail version) G4+. I've had the device for roughly 6 months without this happening on 6.0.1.
When I double flip and occasionally when I use the icon to activate the stock camera, the display screen darkens to a point where the subject of what I'm shooting can't be seen.
I'll point the camera to a bright light source (like a light bulb or sky) and the screen brightens up. Also, if I close the camera app and restart it, it sometimes "fixes" itself.
Anyone else experiencing this? Perhaps this problem/issue has to do with the light sensor(s) on the phone? Just wondering.
Asking the wisdom of the forum and admin.
Thank you.
have you tried with different camera app ??
try and state results
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When I double flip and occasionally when I use the icon to activate the stock camera, the display screen darkens to a point where the subject of what I'm shooting can't be seen.
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If this happens with other apps, it could point directly to a problem with the ambient light sensor.
If this happens with only this app, it could still point to an issue with the sensor, or the app.
Check if this issue persists with adaptive display disabled. If so, then the problem is with the app. If not, chances are that the light sensor has issues.
zeomal said:
If this happens with other apps, it could point directly to a problem with the ambient light sensor.
If this happens with only this app, it could still point to an issue with the sensor, or the app.
Check if this issue persists with adaptive display disabled. If so, then the problem is with the app. If not, chances are that the light sensor has issues.
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I haven't seen this happen while in other apps. It just occurs once in a while when I double wrist flip the phone to activate the stock camera. It doesn't happen all the time.
I'll try to isolate other elements that I may be overlooking.
Hi guys, i have a big problem on my phone Mi A1, is the always active proximity sensor.... Drain battery, does anyone find my same problem? Take a test with a camera, you can not see with the naked eye! Thanks
I have attached the video!!
BUG OR FAULTY?
my video, search on youtube: Proximity Sensor always on Xiaomi Mi A1 BUG?
THANKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdONFH0B6xg
UPDATE VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H09kbi4-DCM
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Hi guys, i have a big problem on my phone Mi A1, is the always active proximity sensor.... Drain battery, does anyone find my same problem? Take a test with a camera, you can not see with the naked eye! Thanks
I have attached the video!!
BUG OR FAULTY?
my video, search on youtube: Proximity Sensor always on Xiaomi Mi A1 BUG?
THANKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdONFH0B6xg
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Unfortunately it looks like a bug in newest February stable stock ROM.....
This is how it looks like on my phone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SO34GCD8Pg
ves626 said:
Unfortunately it looks like a bug in newest February stable stock ROM.....
This is how it looks like on my phone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SO34GCD8Pg
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Thanks, i have oreo patch january and on my xiaomi, when the screen is off, stops flashing
Yep! It is blinking when the screen is on. (I'm on February Patch.)
I'm on February patch and not facing this behaviour. Maybe you have an app making phone work like this? Hope you solve it.
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I'm on February patch and not facing this behaviour. Maybe you have an app making phone work like this? Hope you solve it.
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No, I don't have any application which does this. Check it by a camera ( I think it is infrared) and when the screen is ON.
My proximity sensor test
Same here also
Mr.Oscar said:
Hi guys, i have a big problem on my phone Mi A1, is the always active proximity sensor.... Drain battery, does anyone find my same problem? Take a test with a camera, you can not see with the naked eye! Thanks
I have attached the video!!
BUG OR FAULTY?
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I think it's a bug in new February Patch Stable Update
First of all, I can't reproduce it (used my work iPhone's camera, and yes iPhone sucks but it's for my job, no choice here ).
Second, are you sure it's a bug? Did you do similar check before Feb update?
I'm not a pro of phone hardware, but it seems normal to me that the sensor will be always working. I'm even using an app to wake the phone with the sensor (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.waveup) so the sensor is working all the time, even with screen off.
It's not a bug, it's the same for a lot of phones, don't worry
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It's not a bug, it's the same for a lot of phones, don't worry
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thanks, many mi1 owners do not have this bug
BtB said:
First of all, I can't reproduce it (used my work iPhone's camera, and yes iPhone sucks but it's for my job, no choice here ).
Second, are you sure it's a bug? Did you do similar check before Feb update?
I'm not a pro of phone hardware, but it seems normal to me that the sensor will be always working. I'm even using an app to wake the phone with the sensor (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jarsilio.android.waveup) so the sensor is working all the time, even with screen off.
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thanks bro, I'm not sure it's a bug, however the sensor should only be activated for calls
It's not a bug. The proximity sensor is also used for auto brightness control.
When the proximity sensor is tripped, values from the light sensor is ignored, which means that screen brightness won't change even when the light sensor detects changes in ambient light.
This is useful for e.g. when you play a game or watching a movie in landscape and your hand covers the light sensor. The screen won't go dark, but stays at the same brightness. Without the proximity sensor activated, your screen would go dark every time you accidentally cover the light sensor with your hand.
Try turning off adaptive brightness and see if it's still on. It shouldn't be necessary to have the proximity sensor on all the time if you set the screen to a fixed brightness.
quetzalcoatl2435 said:
It's not a bug. The proximity sensor is also used for auto brightness control.
When the proximity sensor is tripped, values from the light sensor is ignored, which means that screen brightness won't change even when the light sensor detects changes in ambient light.
This is useful for e.g. when you play a game or watching a movie in landscape and your hand covers the light sensor. The screen won't go dark, but stays at the same brightness. Without the proximity sensor activated, your screen would go dark every time you accidentally cover the light sensor with your hand.
Try turning off adaptive brightness and see if it's still on. It shouldn't be necessary to have the proximity sensor on all the time if you set the screen to a fixed brightness.
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Thanks for reply, I deactivated ambient display, and automatic brightness.
But it still does!
If can help someone I mock value with sensor disable xposed module.
My set is 2.5 (half of total value)
But my phone is a redmi 4a