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I have the white GT-I9100M with LP6.
1. First of all the camera seems to be the old camera. The shutter speed hasn't improved, and the panorama feature hardly compares to how it works on the Nexus.
2. The launcher and widgets don't compare to the Nexus ones.
3. Where the hell is NFC??
Overall this feels more like a ICS-themed rom rather than a real ICS comparable to the Galaxy Nexus.
montrealguy said:
1. First of all the camera seems to be the old camera. The shutter speed hasn't improved, and the panorama feature hardly compares to how it works on the Nexus.
2. The launcher and widgets don't compare to the Nexus ones.
3. Where the hell is NFC??
Overall this feels more like a ICS-themed rom rather than a real ICS comparable to the Galaxy Nexus.
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You're going to be waiting for a LONG time for a firmware update to bring NFC to come to this phone.
1. It's still beta.
2. It's still beta.
3. NFC will enable when it's your birthday. So for the sake of everyone who has a GSII, when's your birthday?
There is also weird differences between the S2 and the GN. For example, the GN only has a 1.3mp front camera and supports 720p videochat. While the S2 has a 2mp front camera and doesn't support 720p videochat.
The LP6 beta is buggy and slow and drains battery. If it is this bad right now, we'll probably be waiting for months for ICS to be released!
Yay, another ICS thread. We haven't got enough of these in this forum.
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There is also weird differences between the S2 and the GN. For example, the GN only has a 1.3mp front camera and supports 720p videochat. While the S2 has a 2mp front camera and doesn't support 720p videochat.
The LP6 beta is buggy and slow and drains battery. If it is this bad right now, we'll probably be waiting for months for ICS to be released!
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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1) The GN isn't beta. LP6 is.
2) The camera firmware doesn't change with LP6. So it's obvious it hasn't changed.
3) AOSP vs Samsung ROM is never representative
4) Final samsung release is slated for end of march anyway, so yeah... we'll be waiting months for final features.
5) ????
6) Profit!
If you like the GN so much, buy it and give me your sgs2.
Oh and NFC isn't a software upgrade. It's a non existant hardware inside our phones.
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karendar said:
1) The GN isn't beta. LP6 is.
2) The camera firmware doesn't change with LP6. So it's obvious it hasn't changed.
3) AOSP vs Samsung ROM is never representative
4) Final samsung release is slated for end of march anyway, so yeah... we'll be waiting months for final features.
5) ????
6) Profit!
If you like the GN so much, buy it and give me your sgs2.
Oh and NFC isn't a software upgrade. It's a non existant hardware inside our phones.
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Your numbers don't correspond with the questions. What does your #5 and #6 answer?
And you didn't respond to the 720p videochat support question you referenced in your response.
montrealguy said:
Your numbers don't correspond with the questions. What does your #5 and #6 answer?
And you didn't respond to the 720p videochat support question you referenced in your response.
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Your second question was answered by point #4. Read between the lines...
Your first question though, I had 5 and 6 to illustrate that humor is a nice passtime for someone watching the Canadiens losing 2 to 1. Also that there's obviously a few things missing in your research/reasoning to get the bigger picture on these two phones...
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NFC? Really? You must be kidding!
I want my next software update to add an extra 2 cores and 1GB of ram as well as another 3 battery's to my phone, pretty plz.
slightly srs answer:
Camera shutter speed = Hardware
NFC = hardware issue
Samsung builds will always be samsung themed, they are not going to totally change the look of the rom, so yes, it will always look like a samsung/touchwizz themed rom.
Also beta is beta!
Derp derp.
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Does anyone know if 720p videochat support is something that can be activated in the future with a firmware upgrade, or is it something that is hardware restricted?
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Can anyone answer this question? I'm guessing that if the S2 doesn't support 720p videochat now, then it is incapable of this. It is sad though- that a 1.3mp cam on the GN will support it while a 2mp cam on the S2 doesn't!
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Can anyone answer this question? I'm guessing that if the S2 doesn't support 720p videochat now, then it is incapable of this. It is sad though- that a 1.3mp cam on the GN will support it while a 2mp cam on the S2 doesn't!
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It WAS answered.
Ok let me clarify if it's still not clear: It's a feature that probably wasn't added yet. If a camera at 1.3 supports it, most likely a camera at 2mp will support it if the proper software goes with it. Most likely the hardware codec support wasn't added and that's needed. But anyway, why would you even want 720p video chat?? Sounds like too much bandwidth to me.
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Complain after the end of march.. they said a stable one will be released at the end of march..
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It WAS answered.
Ok let me clarify if it's still not clear: It's a feature that probably wasn't added yet. If a camera at 1.3 supports it, most likely a camera at 2mp will support it if the proper software goes with it. Most likely the hardware codec support wasn't added and that's needed. But anyway, why would you even want 720p video chat?? Sounds like too much bandwidth to me.
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There are many Logitech cams which are 2mp and 5mp, yet don't support 720p videochat or Skype HD. In such cases it is obviously a hardware restriction.
The Droid Razr is advertised as supporting 720p videochat, and so is the GN. However the Droid Razr is still on Gingerbread. If the S2 was capable or upgradeable for 720p videochat, wouldn't it have been advertised already?
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There are many Logitech cams which are 2mp and 5mp, yet don't support 720p videochat or Skype HD. In such cases it is obviously a hardware restriction.
The Droid Razr is advertised as supporting 720p videochat, and so is the GN. However the Droid Razr is still on Gingerbread. If the S2 was capable or upgradeable for 720p videochat, wouldn't it have been advertised already?
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That's what's marvelous about a dev community in open source... If samsung doesn't do it, someone could.
I've seen cams that had no 720p support suddenly get it by dev work. So no, hardware limitations is NOT always the case.
But seriously, if you love the nexus so much, sell your sgs2 and go buy it. Coming on a cell phone's forum to say it sucks compared to another phone is never well received.
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i missed the part where this was beginning to be a GN thread...i beg you bro read their answers...its all there!
I don't really know what android 4 feels like and what I can do is with whatever roms are available right now, I try to pick the 'best' one. Yep they are all betas pretty much but some are better than others. Got to be happy with what we've got mate.
There are some differences, but on things like camera/nfc there'll be hw differences too.
Some of samsungs apps are different, but that doesn't mean they're always less good. For example they're by default black, oled friendly themed. Contacts as links which I don't think AOSP has.
The LP6 rom can work well - fast, good battery life, pretty stable for a leaked version. You can run apps that need ICS. The new task manager, notification features are there. I actally like touchwiz (except for no alpha sort), but can install a different launcher (like nova) if I want to.
Sure there are some differences from stck android - and one could have a huge debate on the whole issue of manufacturer theming but samsung aren't imo doing a bad job at all here.
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5) ????
6) Profit
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This made me laugh epicly hard. Thank you for that.
Fwiw, its from southpark. The underpants gnomes episode
Step 1: steal underpants
Step2: ?
Step3: profit!
Anyways, back on topic. Megapixels don't have anything to do with camera quality. That is determined by lens quality. Megapixels refer to what SIZE image is produce I.e. HxW or something like 1920x1080. So if you want a higher quality picture you need a higher quality lens. Look into dslr and other cameras and you will see what I mean. Image color, clarity and focus is determined more by the overall quality of lens versus how many megapixels it has.
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I find the camera on the Nexus4 somewhat lacking.
GSMarena just reviewed it and came to the same conclusion.
gsmarena.com/google_nexus_4-review-860p9.php
By looking at their Compare Tool it seems that LG phones have consistently bad cameras.
1) Is the comparatively high noise in Nexus4 pictures most likely due to limitations in the camera hardware
or is it the result of bad software calibration that can be re-adjusted?
2) I'd like more control over the camera like manual ISO and shutter speed settings.
Is there a custom ROM or 3rd party app that can expose these to the user?
EDIT:
The camera module on the Nexus 4 is "Exmor R" IMX111PQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850&page=25
The LG Optimus 4X HD shares the same hardware camera module.
When comparing the 2 phones with the GSMarena's Photo Compare Tool it looks
like the LG Optimus 4X performs better noise-wise but has color balance problems (too much red).
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=2&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
Although the Nexus 4's camera is not as good as that of the Samsung Galaxy S3
it seems as though it could be calibrated to perform a bit better than it does at the moment.
Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
Should have done your homework first
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
The funny thing about you guys making fun of him, is that you don't exactly know what you're talking about either.
Back when the Evo 3D got upgraded to ICS, the Virgin Mobile version of the Evo 3D got significant camera improvements, and the Evo 3D (Sprint and GSM [international]) were left hanging with a camera that was essentially the same as the one that they had back with Gingerbread.
Here's a link to it, if you'd like to see. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1717113&highlight=vm+camera
So to answer your question, yes. Software can be used to enhance the camera. If I were you I'd look in the direction of Sony's mods (Photo editor and related) and check that out. I know that there is a ROM that currently uses this.
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Sounds like you have a lot to contribute, asasione. Don't let me slow you down with my useless query.
The camera is important to me. I bought the Nexus4 in a rush without much knowledge of the camera.
After some use I find it lacking so I would like to know if it could be improved.
If not then yes, I will start looking at more capable phones.
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If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s, its just a matter of time till someone figures out what lg did wrong with the drivers
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
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Camera module is excellent. on par with probably iphones and s3s,
its just a matter of time till someone figures out what did wrong with the drivers
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Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
The camera drivers have a great influence over the final picture. If we have the source code to the drivers
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
-Mindroid- said:
I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
Seriously guys, what's the point of these comments? That's a strange attitude.
Allow me to remind you that this is a developer forum where people discuss how to thinker
with gadgets to improve them.
Thank you, akbisw and thebeastglasser!
This is my understanding as well - there are only a few camera modules out there (mostly Sony ones).
The phone firmware must initially calibrate the module. When taking a photo there are algorithms that work with
the metering system to assign color, aperture, shutter speed, sensitivity and other parameters for each shot.
After the picture is taken it's immediately compressed to JPG and a number of filters like smoothing are applied.
In a real camera there's a processor doing all these tasks but in a phone you already have a CPU and GPU.
and people who are knowledgeable in digital photography it's not an impossible task to recalibrate the camera.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question. I also bought this phone knowing that the camera wasn't its best feature, but I'm also curious if there is a way to improve the software/drivers to improve it. There have been several examples on XDA where this has happened. If you're going to be an Internet tough guy and only offer useless posts then don't post, you not only waste your time but the OPs too.
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I don't comment much but the replies in this thread are ridiculous. It's a simple question.
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I should have known better? I should shut up and be happy with what I have?
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% (edit: 25%) smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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I have a suggestion. You can rephrase the question, to something like this:
"I found out that the Nexus 4 has IMX111PQ camera module, which should be on par with the IMX145 found in iPhone 4s. Yet the quality of the image is somewhat lacking [...]"
Citing reviews from some website just invites the trolls waiting around to waste your time.
Back to your question.
I don't think Nexus 4's camera is on par with iPhone 4s or GSG 3's camera. For starter, the pixel size is 20% smaller, thus more noises.
But, I do believe in the same thing as Mindroid, akbisw and thebeastglasser, that math can do magic and someone will figure out something to make it works better.
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Thanks, KyraOfFire!
I spent a lot of time thinking how to phrase my question without inviting the trolls. :silly:
GSMarena did scientific benchmarks, their review states the facts, not an opinion.
Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
AnandTech claims the LG Optimus 4X HD has that camera module.
Using the GSMarena's Image Compare Tool I can see that the LG Optimus 4X has much better
noise performance than the Nexus 4. The colors on the LG 4X are a bit off though.
If both phones share the same camera hardware it seems that the Nexus4 noise issue could indeed
be caused by a bad software calibration.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=5048&idPhone2=4563&idPhone3=4238
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Can you verify the camera module in the Nexus4 is IMX111PQ (link)? I will update the OP.
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Hi Mindroid, I am glad I could help.
Nexus 4 detailed technical breakdown can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1964850
It is claimed that the module number is from the kernel source code
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33645116&highlight=camera#post33645116
Edit: I looked at the photos.
Nexus 4 is clearly more noisy than Optimus 4X HD, but it is also somewhat sharper.
Assuming the information is correct and the two phones share the same camera chip, the software can definitely be tuned.
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Boy talk about useless post of the century!!
Live with it or buy another phone
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yyz71 said:
Should have done your homework first
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spitefulcheerio said:
Definitely should've done your homework first. Learn your lesson and don't impulse buy next time. With such superior build quality, some things have to suffer to retain the price tag it has. This isn't an $800 iphone after all
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richteralan said:
If the camera is important to you, you should've bought a REAL camera.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
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macr0t0r said:
Okay, we had a similar question in the HTC Inspire thread, and we ended up with a good list of camera settings (reduce sharpness, don't use auto-ISO, etc). We get the same question in the Nexus 4 thread and you guys jump down his throat. Nice.
My Nexus 4 hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with it. Admittedly, there is only so much you can do with low-cost hardware, but there are techniques to consider. Until we get some useful answers, you may want to consider some of the things we did for the HTC Inspire (which also has a bit of a lackluster camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875230
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Great thread indeed. If I have time (probably next week), I'll get a camera app that can enable those settings (hint:stock camera app doesn't have those settings) and do some science
I tried the lgCamera app from the Play Store which is supposed to allow more settings like ISO.
I don't think it's working, the pictures look very similar on all ISO settings. It's impossible to tell
for sure because the picture headers don't have the ISO information.
My old Chinese phone has an Engineering Menu that exposes some of the hardware parameters.
Is there anything similar in Jelly Bean?
You could try Camera FV-5 from the play store. I've used it on my One S and it offers a lot of manual controls. My N4 arrives tomorrow so can't tell you how it works, yet, for this phone.
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Wow, who are you guys? The OP asked a simple and reverent question in the right subforum. Proof of what's become of XDA.
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Agreed, the man asked if the camera can be improved. Don't freaking defend the crappy camera. This is xda. This is where we mod **** till it freaking explodes. Not whine and defend stuff.
Forget picture quality what about sound ! Its terrible on recordings. Background noise sounds garbled. In fact its a chorus for flanger type effect which could be down to the stereo mics?
Hi there,
I just got my Honor 7 from vmall, and i dont know if the camera quality is what I expected.
Until now I have been using a nexus 4, that have a very poor quality camera, so i expected that nowadays devices would have a much better quality. I feel honor camera is quite bad, but I cannot compare with other 2014-2015 phones.
For instance, wich famous terminal have similar quality camera? Lg g3? S4? S5? Iphone 5?
Im considering get back my money and try to find another phone with the budget even the only things Im worried about with Honor 7 is camera, lack of NFC, and roms community.
I wait for your opinions!!
Regards,
Can you post some samples
The camera on the Honor 7 is very good, but not the best. You will only get a better camera on a couple of other phones. Perhaps you are expecting too much, in what way is the camera bad?
Here, photo from my Galaxy S6:
http://i.imgur.com/mw2hK6t.jpg
versus honor 7:
http://i.imgur.com/ZrV2rjl.jpg
You do know that it is set to 10 mp default and settling it to 15 mp will get you a lot more detail? 20 mp is 3:4 and not realy usable as in most phone cameras with the highest res.
I think it is a very good camera, but I will boost saturation by 1, same as with the P8.
Yes, I am aware
You may as well use 20MP and crop because that's all the 15MP mode does. At least then you may decide not to crop and get more detail.
I agree with the OP, I feel the image quality is quite poor (lack of sharpness and more than normal image noise)considering its meant to have a decent camera. I came from a HTC ONE M8 and i thought that was a bad camera, but that one seems to produce better quality pictures than the Honor 7. Does anyone think it could be a software (firmware) bug as many users are saying that their picture quality is very good.
In good light, it's fine. It also seems to get the exposure settings right in low light but then saves a really grainy photo that looks terrible under close scrutiny.
I'm sure the algorithms can be tweaked, but I'm still waiting for any update. Still on B100!
Totally agree with your description.
Motorola style and sony experia has the same sensor, i hope we could port their app.
Slow motion camera is also really bad...
Also there is so many people with chinese versions, thats why i would like to try in european version, but i dont know how to do it, is there some help about how to try safely chinese rom on european device?
Well, considering this is a phone which only cost me 209 GBP (less than EUR 300) I really think the camera is excellent. Very fast focus and quite good picture quality.
Comparing it to a S6 is in my opinion the same as comparing a Casio watch to a Breitling.
BTW I also have a Z1 Compact which I believe has the same sensor and I can´t see much of a difference.
i know it only cost £209 for most people, but the camera is supposed to be a good one. many people are reporting that they are getting very good quality pictures and some, including myself, report that the pictures saved are very grainy, therefore im hoping that its a firmware/software issue. I have updated the phone to the latest b121 firmware and can confirm that the camera picture quality is still noisy.
Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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Well, considering the side affect of high mpx is usually more noise...
iberni said:
Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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There can, in my opinion, be little doubt that the camera in the Honor 7 is the Sony IMX230 f/2.0 aperture 6-lens module. This module has a 20 mpx sensor.
Is it possible they use diferent sensors?
Samsung did it in s5 I think
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Yes, I've updated too and I Think that The camera is not a 20mpx...it's too noise.
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Just, none of that makes any sense.
Picture quality is fine. In fact, it's better than I expected really.
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Well, quite strange,
In my opinion camera isn't good as honor and some people say. I think our perception isn't same. For me, quality is lower then g3 lg and samsumg s5 for instance. I know the price isn't high, but that's not the point, for me is about is the quality is good as they say as that's what buyers take to make their decision for buy it.
Regards,
If the noise bothers you reduce resolution in the settings. I find the camera acceptabel though not as good as the P8 (13 mpx!) as this one has OIS.
What res do the s5 and g3 have?
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The point is not about resolution, as that parameter is linked with the megapixels at sensor.
I about image quality. That is my concern.
Hello all,
Now that there are so many great devs supporting our device there is a question that i would like to ask.
Is there any possibility to optimize and add OIS through custom roms in the near future?
If i am not wrong the quality on OP3,GP is better(even with google camera) due to their software during the img processing. It would be splendid to have the camera improved even by a small margin.
I also want to clarify that i am not circle jerking about the camera, i am humbly asking if such software upgrade would be possible.
Thanks!
Ois is hardware dependant. Yes, op3 has same sensor, but with ois implemented. You cant have it by some software tweaks
But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
Thanks for the responses. I havent really make any research regarding mobile phone sensors so i could only guess.
If OIS is out of question due to being hardware dependent, then what about the image processing?
As far as i have seen its mostly software dependent so do you think that we could get better quality ?(i.e better night shots)
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But there is EIS, so electronik stabilization. Maybe this helps?
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Cant see EIS on the stock came( i meant an enabler)
Yes it is not activ, bit maybe the devs could integrate it. It should be possible because no extra Hardware is needed.
You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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You need sources and blobs and stuff. Its not that simple, wouldnt bet on it happening. Only realistic way is if leeco themselfes push update with improved quality
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That sounds good, but i usw lineage OS and therefore the leeco updates are useless?
Hi,
I am currently looking how to get a PH-1 to Germany. Meanwhile, I have a question to happy users and owners: While I have read a lot about the camera and its app it is not exactly clear to me whether this is a hardware issue or a software issue. However, it seems to me that with recent updates Essential could significantly improve quality and overall performance of the camera.
All PH-1 reviews have been writte until October/November 2017. And information about updates for the camera app only have limited contents such as "improves stability and adds finctions".
So, from an experienced user's perspective: is it a software issue, and is the camera meanwhile 'comparable' to other flagship phones ragarding picture quality? I am explicitly not talking about functionality as it seems to me that the PH-1 is designed to get rid of unnecessary stuff or what may be considered so.
Simply asked: How would you rate and review the camera as of to date?
Thanks,
Eriol
Eriol said:
Hi,
I am currently looking how to get a PH-1 to Germany. Meanwhile, I have a question to happy users and owners: While I have read a lot about the camera and its app it is not exactly clear to me whether this is a hardware issue or a software issue. However, it seems to me that with recent updates Essential could significantly improve quality and overall performance of the camera.
All PH-1 reviews have been writte until October/November 2017. And information about updates for the camera app only have limited contents such as "improves stability and adds finctions".
So, from an experienced user's perspective: is it a software issue, and is the camera meanwhile 'comparable' to other flagship phones ragarding picture quality? I am explicitly not talking about functionality as it seems to me that the PH-1 is designed to get rid of unnecessary stuff or what may be considered so.
Simply asked: How would you rate and review the camera as of to date?
Thanks,
Eriol
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the stock camera is good not as all other flagship like pixel 2 ?but the gcam magisk mod is really amazing and bring some extra cool stuff and really improve picture quality ??
@Eriol The camera will not win any awards, but it is sufficient when there's plenty of daylight. I also find that the portrait mode works really well. Below is an example, and lighting was not even that great. Do yourself a favor though, don't buy a Sprint version. Just pay a little more for the OPENUS unlocked version. Save yourself the hassle. Sorry, don't know why the picture rotated.