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I am a Verizon customer that was a Alltel customer. I kept my alltel contract because it was much better than a new Verizon contract, but Verizon said I would have to buy my phones outright if I wanted to ever upgrade. My question is that on eBay some HD2's are gsm and I know cannot be used on Verizon but some are wcdma/gsm phones, can those be activated on verizon's network?
Thanks for any input. I could not find a definitive answer.
In short, WCDMA =/= CDMA. WCDMA/UMTS is the 3G evolution of GSM, and has nothing to do with CDMA. Confusing, but the gist of it is that there's no way to use an HD2 on CDMA. Might have more luck flashing a Sprint EVO to Verizon's PRL, but since CDMA's functionally dead in my country I've not looked into it at all.
i have been reading and searching for over an hour now here and on several pages and do not seem to find any answer froma real proffessional.
why i cant get signal after i insterted my Tmobile Sim card in my unlocked droid pro verizon ? i even tried and insterted my co worker AT&T sim card, same results, NO NETWORK FOUND.
Verizon told Motorola to block GSM networks inside the US. There is nothing wrong with your phone, but right now AT&T isn't going to work.
Check out the Droid 2 Global forums for more info. I believe folks over there are working on a solution.
Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
jonkranked said:
Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
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The GSM antenna is not locked by default, but the SIM card slot is. If you wanted to take the phone to Europe and buy a pre-paid SIM to use over there (instead of Verizon's SIM) then yes, you must unlock the phone.
However, entering the SIM unlock code will not help you connect to AT&T or T-Mobile, because Verizon blocked it on the radio level.
GSM antenna unlocked?
i am not trying to be Jerk, but i have been in the cell phone repair business since 2003, and never heard of that term, is that a new term?
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Have you had the GSM antennas unlocked? When I bought my Pro I was told that in order to actually use it in Global mode (and use the GSM antenna) you have to either take it to a verizon store or call a number for them to unlock it. The GSM antenna is disabled by default.
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cprauctions said:
GSM antenna unlocked?
i am not trying to be Jerk, but i have been in the cell phone repair business since 2003, and never heard of that term, is that a new term?
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that's what i was told by a sales rep at the verizon store, so it came from a totally reliable source.
maybe I just got confused as to which was locked (sim card vs antenna)
DroidBandUnlocked - Droid Pro
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hgzndt8zBg
LMAO
jonkranked said:
that's what i was told by a sales rep at the verizon store, so it came from a totally reliable source.
maybe I just got confused as to which was locked (sim card vs antenna)
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The sales rep is a retard. Lmao.
Man, if the unlock has truly been discovered, it's going to be real tempting not to switch over to T-Mobile if Sprint lets me out of contract. I use my Droid Pro strictly as a travel phone, but if I can use it at home, too, I'd love to.
Unlocked Droid Pro for USA GSM!
This other guy on androidforums came across an unlocked DroidPro that worked with his T-Mobile Sim Card for a while until he decided to update the phone and ended up blocking his T-Mobile sim card in the end...
I kind of hope there are some other phones like that out there so I can get my hands on one of them and figure out where to look for that piece of code that blocks the phones ability to use T-mobile/AT&T networks.
I use my droid pro overseas, but travel to the us two or three times a month. It sucks to have a global phone that i can use everywhere (roaming) but not in the US. A verizon plan is simply too expensive to afford to use 4 days a month.
I would be willing to pay, donate, contribute to find a way to activate the droid pro on a prepaid at&t plan. Or even an affordable verizon daily prepaid plan. Any ideas?
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hk9090 said:
I use my droid pro overseas, but travel to the us two or three times a month. It sucks to have a global phone that i can use everywhere (roaming) but not in the US. A verizon plan is simply too expensive to afford to use 4 days a month.
I would be willing to pay, donate, contribute to find a way to activate the droid pro on a prepaid at&t plan. Or even an affordable verizon daily prepaid plan. Any ideas?
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You could have it flashed to Page Plus. They operate on the Verizon network.
anyone know if it's successfully been done? Have an XPRT and we might be migrating from Sprint to Tmob. Would love to keep using the XPRT as backup phone or primary if it takes a while to get my hands on Milestone 3.
It won't work on T-Mobile 3G, and I don't know if this works for the XPRT, but the Pro unlock has been released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259550
well that's a waste. Too many damn gsm bands. Thanks for the link. Might do it anyway. If I end up selling it, it'll be more valuable if it can be used on AT&T. Think getting GSM phones from Bell Canada is the way to go for Tmob phones. Think the Milestone 3 will be in my future if we do the switch.
For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
Speedy Gonzalez said:
The N3 is world phone so yes its gsm too
Sim unlocked ? I don't know the note 2 was unlocked but you can't add APN settings
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Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
kat3k said:
Thanks very much. So I could use it at some future time on Straight Talk network? What about ATT after contract met? But would an ATT phone transfer to VZ if it's a world phone?
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The ATT phones don't have the CDMA hardware to work on Verizon.
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kat3k said:
For some reason, I thought the salesman said both Verizon & ATT GN3's were gsm. Is that true or is VZ cdma? I thought I read somewhere they were switching over at some time. I was thinking gsm was preferable, but is it?
Thanks in advance.
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All verizon phones have CDMA radios in them. The 3G service from verizon is CDMA. International phones utilize a GSM 3G radio as well, as Europe uses GSM exclusively. The 4G radio, however, is GSM. Therefore, all 4G verizon phones are also GSM. Until 3G gets phased out, All Verizon 4G phones will have both GSM and CDMA radios.
I saw a similar thread to this, but it wasnt my same situation. I've been shopping for a LG G2 to work on verizon, found a dude on craigslist with what he says is an unlocked one, Now he says its a sprint one. But unlocked for any carrier....is this true? Like is this even possible? If so, is it going to work on verizon...100%? Like data 4g, 3g etc?
Thanks all!
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
askmeonemore said:
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
staticx57 said:
Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
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So i am correct, that it will not work?
Don't bother.
CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have a database of ESN's (serial numbers) that are approved for their network unlike GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T where you can just pop in their respective SIM cards and use compatible unlocked GSM devices.
You can't just walk into a VZW store with a Sprint phone, go to the counter and tell the rep that you want to activate service with a (non-Verizon branded phone) Sprint phone. First of all, the ESN/MEID is not in their database, doesn't have any VZW prl (preferred roaming list) loaded, and in the case of LTE, isn't even compatible (VZW runs LTE on 700mhz, Sprint is on 800/1900/2500).
However, Sprint and VZW technically run their CDMA service (1xrtt, 3G EVDO) on compatible frequencies 800/850/1900, hence the reason their customers can roam off each other and vice versa. So technically it can work if VZW will accept the Sprint device ESN into their database and do all the backend OTA programming etc, but that's not going to happen. There's always the murky underworld of cloning, but i'll stop right here...
As for the person on Craigslist trying to urinate on you and convince you that it is raining, forget about him/her. It's likely that it might be unlocked, but that's only the GSM portion, for GSM carriers and not Verizon.
If you need a phone to use on Verizon, why not just get a Verizon phone and save yourself the hassle?
Hi everyone, I have a bone stock Verizon HTC 10 on a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
This is going to be my first trip outside of the US, I'm going to Southeast Asia and I was, originally, looking at the Verizon TravelPass plan, but it is only for newer plans, not for the grandfathered plans. So now I am looking into swapping out to a local SIM, but I'm not sure I understand everything. Does it matter which carrier I use? GSM or CDMA? Since it's a World Phone, I'm assuming that it has all the bands covered. Besides having a different phone number, are there any other drawbacks?
What do you guys think about using the Wi-Fi in that part of the world. I get leery about even using the Hotels Wi-Fi. LOL
Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
ditto - i'll be going to London for about 6 months. I have the verizon htc 10 (sunshined - don't think that matters for this?). i'm assuming i can take out that verizon sim and put in a vodafone (unless someone has some suggestions of other carriers) sim and it will work seamlessly.
any help for me and my new OP friend going to Asia would be cool ... tia !
Dragbike Racer said:
Hi everyone, I have a bone stock Verizon HTC 10 on a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
This is going to be my first trip outside of the US, I'm going to Southeast Asia and I was, originally, looking at the Verizon TravelPass plan, but it is only for newer plans, not for the grandfathered plans. So now I am looking into swapping out to a local SIM, but I'm not sure I understand everything. Does it matter which carrier I use? GSM or CDMA? Since it's a World Phone, I'm assuming that it has all the bands covered. Besides having a different phone number, are there any other drawbacks?
What do you guys think about using the Wi-Fi in that part of the world. I get leery about even using the Hotels Wi-Fi. LOL
Any info would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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I used my Verizon 10 in Japan mostly without issues with a local data sim card. Look at possible sim providers where you're going and see what bands they use, and see if your phone supports those. The VZW 10 has a couple of bands disabled compared to the unlocked 10. Just make sure you change your network settings from CDMA to Global.
No drawbacks in using your phone abroad. Depending on if you get a data only sim card and which provider you use there, you might experience some additional battery drain. I experienced this mostly in Japan, but it Singapore and Thailand as well with my M7.
Safety wise I would say using public wifi in SEA has the same risk as using public wifi in the states.
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
Dragbike Racer said:
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it.
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No probs, hope it all works out.