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Would you still buy the N4 today?

Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.

nlabrad said:
Hi, i'm an Atrix owner, and my dad's phone just died, so i thought that i could buy a new phone for me and give my atrix to him. It will have more than he can use anyway.
So, i'm trying to go with the best for under $300 (unlocked). I suffered the Motorola's lack of updates with my Milestone and this Atrix, so i want a futureproof device (balanced with the price). So my first thought of course is the Nexus. If it gets 5.0 i'll be happy for another year i guess.
But i don't know what's in the market right now, so maybe i'm missing another good device for the price, or maybe the Nexus 4 is not as good as it looks. So that's why i'm asking what the title says.
Would you still buy the Nexus 4?
Thank you.
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I gave my old lady my old Atrix and grabbed the Nexus.
Now I'm trying to talk her in to getting one.
The price now @ $249 to performance ratio can't be beat considering you own the phone out right, no contract crap.
Get updates on day 1 release, it will get 5.0
The camera is decent enough I find...after all it's a phone.
If you don't care about the lack of a SD card and a non removable battery. Then it's def worth it
After the Atrix you'd be very happy with it.
I'd get a case for it the as it's an extremely slippery phone though.

If you're on a budget and looking for unlocked and properly priced, then yes, it's perfect. You don't get 4G LTE out of the box, and you only get it with fixes and always changing the settings back. If not having 4G LTE is fine, then yes, it's your best bet. MetroPCS and Boost are selling the SIII for $400 still. You still get a year warranty of course when you buy it from Google.

Only if I didn't already own one. Why?
1. Price/performance ratio is insane
2. Dev support is lively
3. LTE on Tmobile
4. No contract
5. Storage fits my music collection
6. Dat back

so seems buying n4 still worth it if you just want to use it for a decent purpose only, am I right ? I'm not a type of person who loves to rooted or change kernel to phone.

I did 3 days ago and its flying

I got mine the other day. Coming from a GS3, I am more then happy with the N4. Will I get an N5 when it comes up, most likely but depending on the price maybe not as soon as it is released.
My wife picked up a HTC One. Spec wise and quality build that is on the HTC One is top of the line right now but I would not take one over the N4. There is just something special about a Nexus device and it runs fantastic.

Looking at this thread i am going to say a big YES http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nex...y-google-play-store-1642317?page=104#comments

Yep. Just bought another N4 (to replace a stolen N4) and it has been a good idea

Its the best. No doubt about it. Just go for it. I'd buy it again if I have to. Best performance with such specs at this price. Just brilliant.

I did. Am selling my Xperia Z for profit, and got an Nexus 4 for £159. Much prefer the look, feel and performance over the Sony. Love it.

For some stupid reason, it still costs Rs. 24,990 ($ 379) in india (flipkart.com). Were it not for this silly pricing, i would have bought it a long time back.
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Yes, I would for sure.
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I would but just because of the value. For $200-$300 you get a great unlocked phone. It isn't the best phone but it definitely is for the price range. It definitely does have it quirks though. For one I hate the fact that I am limited to 16gb of storage as there is no SD Card slot. Google however has great cloud based apps so you really don't need 64gb. For me, I have 30+ GB of music and its all on the cloud with Google play. Even when your offline you still have access you your music though because the app very conveniently caches songs periodically to keep some stored locally (I have about 2gb local). The screen is not full 1080p which is becoming the norm now and not to forget the phone has horrible color calibration, which can be fixes with a custom kernel. The phones battery life also isn't the greatest... As a pretty heavy user I probably would have to charge it at least once throughout the day. The camera also is pretty crappy and so is the speaker.
Bottom line. The phone is definitely worth every cent but it does have its issue. There are plenty of phones better than it but they're all $600+ phones. So yes even today, I would say to Stoll get it for the value

I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!

I just ordered mine last week when the price dropped. I have been using the Galaxy Nexus for the last year and will likely never purchase another non-Nexus device ever again.
For me, it was all about value. As others have mentioned - it is pretty hard to beat the current 199/249 price point that these are available at right now. I had originally planned on holding off until the N5 was released but simply couldn't pass up this deal.
Now just anxiously waiting for it to arrive!

I just did - a few days ago. I was never happier. :cyclops:

Artego said:
I definently would,
given there has just been a price drop of 100$ on both versions!
Now there is really no way to beat the price.
Take the 8 gb version for example and look at other models in the same price range.
You see things like the Samsung Young, which really are no match at all for the Nexus 4!
Try and name 1 device for under 400$ that is better, I think you will have a hard time.
And now the Nexus is only half of that!
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hell yes. And here in Europe is not just a 100$ drop, its a 100€. Finally the 1€-1$ thing is on our side

I would die to the damn price.
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i would go as far as to say that I even would not be able to recommend any other phone after the price dropped last week

Buying Zefone 2, is it good decision

My nexus 5 gave up on recognizing sim card and now its time to buy one. Today I was looking on Amazon for my new phone and I came across zenfone 2 for $199, is this a good deal? How do you compare with nexus 5? How good is this on T-Mobile network? Any other recommendation for any other phone under $250?

ZF2 is better than Nexus 5. But if I were you I would wait the Nexus 5 2015. Which is going to release 2 or 3 months. Probably. But If you say that I can not wait till the new nexus arrives than go and buy a ZF2.
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Since they said the phone doesn't see the SIM card anymore, I doubt they can wait.
Another inexpensive option would be the Moto G 2015 model. It looks great for the price also. The ZenFone 2 is nice (but I'd spend the extra $100 for the next model up with better processor, more RAM and more storage).

go for it .... u won't regret but $299 option is better in terms of speed .... after using nexus u will understand the difference between nexus and budget range devices ...... but u can even have moto g 3rd gen $220 one or else go for its repairing if possible

yes for me
I absolutely love this phone, everyone seems to complain about the battery but for me it's fine. The quick charge resolves having to wait if your battery is drained.
Bang for the buck, hands down the ZF2, you won't find a phone with these specs at that price not to mention the dual-sim feature. I have two Moto G 3rd Gens, they are nice and battery is better but still no contest compared to my ZF2. Also, Asus has been pretty good at releasing firmware updates so that's a good sign.
Don't forget, forums always contain mostly negative comments so it's hard to base your decision on reading. Most people with positive comments don't really post their experience unless you're a tech junky like me

I was on nexus 5 since the screen broke. I decided to buy this one over a xiaomi mi4 and a meizu mx5. The experience in terms of quantity of tools or rom is poor compared to the google one but...
Battery life is better
Screen is better
Signal is better
Faster
Bigger
Heavier
If you don't care about the last two points is the phone you're looking for
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mak101 said:
My nexus 5 gave up on recognizing sim card and now its time to buy one. Today I was looking on Amazon for my new phone and I came across zenfone 2 for $199, is this a good deal? How do you compare with nexus 5? How good is this on T-Mobile network? Any other recommendation for any other phone under $250?
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I recommend b and H photo. 2day free delivery and no hassel returns. Great store.
I am using 199 version on T-Mobile, works great.
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keikkio said:
I was on nexus 5 since the screen broke. I decided to buy this one over a xiaomi mi4 and a meizu mx5. The experience in terms of quantity of tools or rom is poor compared to the google one but...
Battery life is better
Screen is better
Signal is better
Faster
Bigger
Heavier
If you don't care about the last two points is the phone you're looking for
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Agreed, I actually like the bloatware in this phone, they are somewhat useful, pclink is great. At least Asus gave us the option to turn them off in "autostart" more then what I can say for most other companies/couriers. Tools and rom can be changed, so I'm not too worry that Asus will improve on those.

I'm with anyone here I love this phone but buy a case as I have the higher end model and it's costing me 200CAD to replace the screen
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Thanks all for your responses, I will be trying to flash ROM on my Nexus 5 to see if that works or I will order ZF2 and I dont want to spend over $250, how much you spend on your phone you have to buy a new one in 2 years so now on I have decided no more than $250 on a phone

dakunclear said:
I'm with anyone here I love this phone but buy a case as I have the higher end model and it's costing me 200CAD to replace the screen
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Sorry, I don't understand, you want to buy a case or your screen broke? please clarify. That's norm for screen damage repair, cost the same for S5 or Iphones, wait til you see what it cost to replace a S6 Edge phone.... ouch.

damenc said:
Sorry, I don't understand, you want to buy a case or your screen broke? please clarify. That's norm for screen damage repair, cost the same for S5 or Iphones, wait til you see what it cost to replace a S6 Edge phone.... ouch.
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I'm just saying buy a case lol screen replacement is usually about 50% cost of the device but if you own the 16gb model then you might as well get a new one
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dakunclear said:
I'm just saying buy a case lol screen replacement is usually about 50% cost of the device but if you own the 16gb model then you might as well get a new one
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Ah, gotcha lol yeah, screen replacement on any smartphone these days is not cheap.

I'm waiting for the 5.1 update or CM12 before I buy this phone. My current mobile is still working fine for basic functionality, so I can afford to wait

I have an HTC One which I'm looking to replace anytime soon because the battery is slowly dying. My first choice is the Zenfone2 64gb w/ 4gb ram next would be the Moto G 2015. I no longer want a flagship as they become obsolete after a year plus mid-range devices has a lot to offer nowadays. Seems like a lot of phone manufacturers are now targeting the mid-range area offering a great range of powerful phones at a cheaper price.
One thing that's holding me back in buying the Zenfone 2 is it was made by Asus. I have a Nexus 7 2013 which is no more than a year old with lots of issues like the unresponsive touchscreen, multi-touch issues, broken auto-rotate. All of which are experienced by a lot of Nexus 7 owners. What I couldn't handle is the nightmare of going thru Asus's after sales service.
Is there anyone here kind enough to give their insights about the current issues they have on this phone? I've read somewhere that battery life is an issue. Any defective batches/hardware issues or anything around that line that I should know before actually deciding to get this phone? As much as possible, I don't want to go thru their customer service ever again.
Kindly post the issues here as once I get this phone, I can no longer return it because consumer protection law sucks in my country. I only have 1 week outright replacement if the phone is defective after that I'm gonna be stuck with this phone forever

chickentuna said:
I have an HTC One which I'm looking to replace anytime soon because the battery is slowly dying. My first choice is the Zenfone2 64gb w/ 4gb ram next would be the Moto G 2015. I no longer want a flagship as they become obsolete after a year plus mid-range devices has a lot to offer nowadays. Seems like a lot of phone manufacturers are now targeting the mid-range area offering a great range of powerful phones at a cheaper price.
One thing that's holding me back in buying the Zenfone 2 is it was made by Asus. I have a Nexus 7 2013 which is no more than a year old with lots of issues like the unresponsive touchscreen, multi-touch issues, broken auto-rotate. All of which are experienced by a lot of Nexus 7 owners. What I couldn't handle is the nightmare of going thru Asus's after sales service.
Is there anyone here kind enough to give their insights about the current issues they have on this phone? I've read somewhere that battery life is an issue. Any defective batches/hardware issues or anything around that line that I should know before actually deciding to get this phone? As much as possible, I don't want to go thru their customer service ever again.
Kindly post the issues here as once I get this phone, I can no longer return it because consumer protection law sucks in my country. I only have 1 week outright replacement if the phone is defective after that I'm gonna be stuck with this phone forever
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I ordered one for a relative (16GB/2GB Ram version) and its been fine so far. If you look through this forum and at reviews the main areas where the phone is lacking are the battery life (can be poor but generally inconsistent), not a great camera and the additional bloat apps that come preinstalled (some can be uninstalled or disabled or if you root you can remove them all together/freeze them).
I think all handsets have the odd bad batch here and there and there are some who are unlucky where they have a fault that means they have to return the device. I think if the battery life was sorted, it would help ease a lot of fears and make a lot of users more content. It can vary from person to person and it might not even bother you. Fingers crossed it can be improved in the next major update.
The new Motorola G looks decent, still waiting to see more in depth reviews but it seems to be getting good reports in the battery department. If I was buying it I would have to go for the 16GB/2GB ram model as 8GB is just not enough anymore, 16GB is just about manageable. Motorola should also provide decent updates I've been pretty tempted to get the 64GB/4GB ram Zenfone 2 myself, I dont particularly need an new device but it just seems such an attractive offer. I currently have a Oneplus One which is great and has the benefit of having an unlockable bootloader and plenty of roms to choose from. Currently I have switched back to a CM11(kitkat) rom for the best battery life as Lollipop just doesnt seem as good, so it doesnt just seem to be a problem specific to the Zenfone 2.
I'm not sure how much my rambling has helped, but at the moment I'm just hanging tight for now and scouring XDA every other day to see how things pan out for the ZF2! :silly:

mak101 said:
Thanks all for your responses, I will be trying to flash ROM on my Nexus 5 to see if that works or I will order ZF2 and I dont want to spend over $250, how much you spend on your phone you have to buy a new one in 2 years so now on I have decided no more than $250 on a phone
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Install the Android M developer preview2.
It's like a new phone!
Use only english!
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The phone itself is fine. I like the fast-charging feature, and the battery is definitely better than my Nexus4, and it's pretty snappy (I have the 2GB version).
BUT, and this is a big but, Asus' customer support is just plain awful:
My 1-month-old phone started doing random shutdowns at least once a day (it won't even turn itself back on, I would manually turn it on again after noticing my phone's been off for the past 2 hours). After multiple emails back and forth they issued an RMA and I had to send the phone at my expense. Phone got back 10 days later, result? the issue is still there, and they're still avoiding sending me a replacement.
In my opinion buy from a company that respect their customer and replace their faulty phone, like what Google did for my Nexus 4.

Coming from an iPhone 6 (Originally all Android) and going to this phone, I'd have to say I love it... I may not be in love with it, but I love it Everything is pretty smooth, the camera is good for a phone camera (I've taken some really good outside video with it), and the expandable storage is great with an already large size internal storage. I'd say to anyone who is on the fence to buy it. Yes it's not an iPhone, but it's also not iOS.

Buy now or wait?

This past weekend, my Verizon Galaxy S6 went for a swim. While it seems to have mostly recovered (besides my camera flash refusing to turn off), there is still the question of whether this incident will substantially shorten the life of my phone. I had decided that if my phone was fried, I would get a 6P. Now that I've thought about it, I can't get it out of my head, even though my S6 has a chance of survival. The thing is, I can't decide if I should just continue using my S6 (if it continues to function) and reevaluate after the new Nexus is launched, or just give in and get one now. Thoughts?

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This past weekend, my Verizon Galaxy S6 went for a swim. While it seems to have mostly recovered (besides my camera flash refusing to turn off), there is still the question of whether this incident will substantially shorten the life of my phone. I had decided that if my phone was fried, I would get a 6P. Now that I've thought about it, I can't get it out of my head, even though my S6 has a chance of survival. The thing is, I can't decide if I should just continue using my S6 (if it continues to function) and reevaluate after the new Nexus is launched, or just give in and get one now. Thoughts?
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I'd say wait for the new Nexus if you have a device that still functions right now. Otherwise, go for it. It's a pretty good device.

Wait until next Nexus comes out. It's a matter few months. You can then decide if you still want 6P
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Might as well wait till new ones arrive....

Some website said both 2 Nexus phones would be made by HTC.

I only recently bought a 6P coming from a S6 & i'm more than happy with it, I won't be getting the HTC version this year as i see no point tbh as the 6P does everything i need it to & more besides, so going to keep hold of it until the 2017 Nexus which by then should be more than a decent upgrade to the current 6P.
The only phone that could possibly sway me this year if rumours are true is the Google Pixel Smartphone.

Determine what's a bigger priority to you. If you can live with 5.5", get the new Nexus. I personally wouldn't want to drop to 5.5" having on-screen buttons. The supposed bottom-firing speakers are also a let-down. I only wish the 6P had OIS on the rear camera, otherwise this is really a phone that could be kept for a long time. Performance is perfectly fine on the 6P - it is somehow leagues faster than my S7E which has almost every piece of bloat disabled.

I went from Nexus 4 to Galaxy 6 on contract to get a new phone without $500+. I never got the memo on Samsung locking it up. It only allowed root and only early on. When I decided to sell it, it would not update and the USB cable would not stay attached long enough to flash it. I have been using a very bad ZTE phone from Walmart since selling the Galaxy. I have a 64gb Aluminium color 6P arriving Monday. I won't wait and am real upset about paying 509.99 when it was 419.99 for a few weeks and the 128gb was cheaper before that. I can take the beating, but it's going back for a refund if there are any issues.
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Cenex22 said:
This past weekend, my Verizon Galaxy S6 went for a swim. While it seems to have mostly recovered (besides my camera flash refusing to turn off), there is still the question of whether this incident will substantially shorten the life of my phone. I had decided that if my phone was fried, I would get a 6P. Now that I've thought about it, I can't get it out of my head, even though my S6 has a chance of survival. The thing is, I can't decide if I should just continue using my S6 (if it continues to function) and reevaluate after the new Nexus is launched, or just give in and get one now. Thoughts?
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I would say wait. Even though these Nexii from HTC are looking pretty pitiful - there is / was a rumor that Huawei was redoing the 6P with the SD 820 or better chip, so that's enough to wait on my end.

I almost pulled the trigger on buying a Nexus 6P. I don't think that I will be buying the HTC nexus when it comes out so I'm thinking about getting rid of my Note 5 to save some money on my phone bill

teh roxxorz said:
I would say wait. Even though these Nexii from HTC are looking pretty pitiful - there is / was a rumor that Huawei was redoing the 6P with the SD 820 or better chip, so that's enough to wait on my end.
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That sounds very interesting with an upgraded 6P. Would probably push the price down on the existing 6P as well.

I just bought a 6P but probably (very much on the fence atm) going to return it and wait for the new 6P with SD820 and the upcoming HTC versions.
The 6P is a fantastic phone but is just that bit lacking in speed and smoothness compared to phones like my S7 due to upgraded cpu and gpu. Having said that, the 6P is a very pleasant phone in all daily circumstances.
Btw both my S7 and 6P are rooted and with custom rom + kernel.
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It's very very unlikely that there's going to be a "6P with SD820" from Huawei since that's not how the Nexus programming works. It's most likely that there'll be an HTC successor to the 6P with the SD821 or the 820.

prices are INSANE - I just bought a Nexus 5x

In Germany you have to pay 759€ for the version with 32GB.
Sorry Google but I just did something I thought I'd never do: buy a Nexus from last year instead buying the very best Google has to offer.
For 245€ I got a 32 GB Nexus 5x. A good upgrade form my 16GB Nexus 4 which I loved so much.
Sure, I get it: let's just price the Pixel nearly the same as an iPhone 7 but for a company that's doing 'its very own phone' (hello HTC) for the first time this price is just nuts.
I am so angry atm but I really want to hear your opinion on pricing. Except daydream VR this phone has simply nothing that stands out from the competition and now please don't come with the 'best camera in any smartphone'. I have waited for a big nexus upgrade for years now and I can't believe that this is ruined by a price that's beyond good and evil. I kinda waited the whole time for 'one more thing'.....the pixel will support Andromeda via USB type C in the future or something similar but no.
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Very happy that I got a Nexus 5x now so cheap!

I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.

Masteryates said:
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.

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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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I was burnt by the low ram on the Nexus 9 so I'm giving the 5x a miss. It will be the one plus 3 or a Nexus 6p if I see one at the right price. Thanks for the suggestion seb. :highfive:

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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.

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N5 is not x86 its arm.
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Here in Germany it starts at 759,00 € or $851.37.
I think it would be cheaper to buy it in the US and pay the taxes.

Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.

id3alistic said:
Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...

$$$ no way Jose
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.

Azarin said:
It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
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My EXACT thoughts, as well. I recently made the switch away from Android for the first time to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone 7. So far, I must admit that I am very pleased with the phone. Especially with how seamless it is with my Mac. But I was still anticipating the Pixel launch to see what Google had to offer. The phone itself looks great. But what you mentioned above is the big thing preventing me from returning the iPhone and getting the Pixel phone. With the iPhone, I'm locked in for two years but when the new one comes out next year I just take this one into the Apple store and walk out with the new one. It's a really great concept.
I'm afraid you are right about Google. I imagine if they were going to have an upgrade program, they would have announced it when discussing pricing to help justify the extremely high price point. Without that and with the resale value of these phones being about 50% 12 months after purchasing (based off what I've seen from the recent Nexus phones), the total cost to upgrade to the new Google phone every year just skyrocketed compared to what it used to be with the sub $450 nexus phones.
Because of this I'm having a very hard time trying to justify picking one up. Which is sad considering this will now be the first Nexus (i know... "Pixel") I haven't purchased after initial release.
EDIT: After wasting my afternoon reading tons of articles about the phone and watching the first few "hands on" videos, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase the 5" Pixel (Black, 128GB version). I have 3 more days to return my iPhone 7 for a full refund so it was either do it now or face the possibility of regret and be stuck with this $850 iPhone.
I still think the Pixel is overpriced but it does look to be an extremely solid phone. And I opted for the 128GB version to give myself a little future proofing. I'm planning on holding onto the Pixel for 2 years this time around, rather than making a quick phone jump again next year. This mindset helped me justify the price. Hopefully I can stick to that plan.

The pixel is so average, it has nothing my £300 OnePlus 3 doesn't have. Google's phone is overpriced and about as naff as their new bull**** chat app, Allo. Not impressed. Sub par. And those prices? Google has shot right up the ranks of overpriced **** to join Apple and Samsung. Ludicrous.

another thing I want to mention: Google spoke all the time about how Hardware and Software works together in this phone, especially with the Google assistant but hell, we all know that the assistant has nothing to do with hardware. It's just Android 7.1 and exclusivnes. Plus most of the talked about 'features' were just apps you can get in the playstore.
Another thing: if I buy an iPhone for the same price, I kind of know that I can sell it after like 11month for about 75% of the original price. NOT so with the pixel plus Apple provides the longest software updates. Just remember how freacking long the iPhone 4 was supported..!!
I am happy if my upcoming 5x would get fully featured Android 8. Even now when Android 7.1 seems ready they said that first betas can be expected by the end of the year..??!

I'd suggest the honor 8 if you want a one handed phone that's cheap and great quality
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Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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Me too, bought the Moto G4 Plus for 266 euro`s a week ago and its working perfect for me and has a front firing speaker. I`am never paying more then 400 euro`s tops for a phone again

Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol

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Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Nexus was never about premium feel. It was nexus just like an iphone is iphone. It was for people who wanted more from their device, who liked to tinker it, play with it. In short having a nexus meant you own your device and at affordable price.
Now with newer, pricier and premium pixel, they may hit new customers who like premium devices, people who change phones faster than seasons change, but they lost their fan base, tinkerers, developers. Most of them are students, young part time workers.
I feel pixel is just an iphone made by google and i m hugely disappointed. It may offer a great experience for user but as an android enthusiast, I don't see it's worth of that much money.

I was really interested in replacing my Honor 6 within the next months, but honestly, with those prices, I think I'll either stick with it, or go buying the Honor 8....
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.

Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
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Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
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This sentence doesn't make any sense. The price has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "good" phone.
Quite frankly, the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the increased pricing. Over the years the Nexus sections of XDA have become overly saturated with kids whose parents bought their ~$350 phones for them and then they flood the Nexus sub-forums expecting to be spoon-fed everything without trying to learn things themselves from the plethora of guides and helpful posts readily available to them. All while refusing to contribute anything worthwhile to the community. It's gotten so bad that spending time in the Nexus forums has me wondering why I even bother anymore. Many developers have expressed the same feelings.
I'm really hoping the increased pricing of the Pixel phones will help keep the kids away and allow the Pixel forums to remain clean and full of people who actually like to contribute. Similar to how it was back in the early Nexus days.

Nexus 6P in 2017?

So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.

akaTRAP said:
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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If you can get a NEW model 64GB for a great price, then yeah. In the US, Walmart is selling a new 32GB model for $365. The phone is still fast as hell, runs 8.0 and gets monthly security updates. Ongoing community support is guaranteed for a LONG time. :good:

I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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Yea I'm still weary of the bootloop. The phone I found was an official refurb from Google, but still, if it's unreliable even afterwards, I'd rather spend the extra money now so I don't have to spend even more later.
BTW I would prefer to buy one that works on all four networks. Currently on Sprint (hot garbage) but I'm looking to move to T-Mobile after I graduate.

My Pixel XL died and I picked up the Nexus 6P.
It's 95% as fast as the Pixel XL.
Apps do open faster on the Pixel, but the difference is negligible.
I never realized I'd be this happy with the 6P.
My only issue is premature battery failure.
I'd budget $25 to get a replacement battery if you're comfortable doing it yourself.
If not, then budget a lot more, or get a better phone.

how long have you had it?

Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.

wizardwiz said:
Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.
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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.

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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.
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Accubattery

I still think it's very worthy phone even in 2017. It's my all time favorite Android phone. I've owned it twice now. I as of about 4 days ago just bought another Nexus 6p from an individual who had bought it from Google but never even opened it up. It had just been sitting in the box unopened at his house for the past two years. Although I really wanted the silver, the one he had was 64g and in frost white. When he told me what he'd sell it to me for I went into shock. I bought a brand new 64g Nexus 6p for $150!!! Sealed in box never even turned on. This phone is butter smooth. The screen is amazing. It's great for media. Runs the very latest software from Google. I like it tens times better than the Pixel. The Pixel is absolutely ugly and it's not even a true XL at 5.5 inches where the 6p is 5.7 which I would consider that to be an XL. The phone design thanks to Huawei is stunning. So yeah if you can find one in the original box at the right price that was purchased from Google in case you do need a replacement then I'd say definitely yes to getting one. Don't let the boot loop scare you. Although it happens it's not to the majority of the phones. You only hear of the bad apples and not the good ones. Well mine is perfect although it was brand new it's still two yesrs old just never opened up and my battery is fine. Just do your research and ask questions and get you one. You won't regret it. This phone is by far the best and most smooth Android phone I've ever used. It's definitely at the right price very worth buying even in 2017. I believe it will get updates until late 2018 so you're good there too. Like I said research it and definitely fine one that comes in the original box with the contents. It'll help your resell value down the road.

akaTRAP said:
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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Don't do it... Worst build quality ever, it's essentially made out of tin foil

Until the Google Pixel dual partition phones get Xposed working, I'm sticking with the 6P.
Even TWRP doesn't backup/restore reliably for Pixel dual partition setup yet.
My 6P has RR and Xposed for Nougat working just right and I'm not letting that go.

I have my 6p for over a year now and to be honest I am not happy In 2017 you would end up much better with OnePlus 5 that has similar performance to iPhone 8 and much better than Samsung Galaxy 8. Nexus 6p is way behind them now
The "frame" (thin plastic around the screen) goes off quickly and it looks quite bad and the body is made of soft metal so you would have a lot of tiny holes and few scratches after few months (and drops). Battery is good though, after a year still holds about 95% (due to AccuBattery app) and performance itself is neither bad or good.

No it's not a good buy. You want a phone to last long look elsewhere. You might get lucky and get a good model or you might get one that has one of the many issues that plagues these phones. Go for a one plus 3T

I absolutely love mine. expect to replace the battery at some point, but other than that, I think it's still a relevant phone in 2017. buy it if you see it cheap.

So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?

kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally

seabro01 said:
Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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crixley said:
No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally
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Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.

kingdazy said:
Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.
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Glad to help out. I try not to fanboy out on any phone I own, and be honest about the good and the bad. XDA can be the worst place to ask for advice about buying phones honestly. People will say anything is good.
I keep mine around to play around with and test android updates. It hasn't been my main phone in a while though.