Nexus 6p or the Samsung Galaxy Edge+ (does it have a loose button)? +my concernes - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys!
I am kinda torn between these two devices. At first I waned the Edge+ but then after trying a few units in different shops I noticed that the home button is kinda loose. By loose I mean moving up and down (kind of like the one on the s6) instead of being stiff. Also I am pretty scared that it will be forgotten by Samsung after a while, just like my brand new s3 was forgotten back in the day (it only went from 4.0 to 4.3). Those being said..I think those two are my only concerns about the Edge+
On the other hand..is the Nexus 6P it's also a device I would like. It will always have the latest Android version (at least for about 3 years) and to me it looks okay. Not as sexy as the S6 edge+ but still looks nice. With this device I am concerned about either scratching the back of the graphite version..this exposing the raw aluminium...having the "visor" crack for no reason and I am also kinda concerned about the rigidity of the phone...last night I saw a guy on youtube bending it quite easily.
Also...what about the performance of both devices? I saw some speedtests..and I noticed that the 6P is a bit slower in launching games and intensive applications. Should it also be a problem for it to run them? Is there really a big difference between the 6P and Edge+ in terms of mobile gaming?
What would you recommend, guys? Nexus 6P or the Edge+
Please think what would you choose for yourself...and let me know. Also, are my concerns real? Did anyone scratch the back of the 6P or had it's visor crack by itself? Does anyone have an edge+ with a loose button? Hopefully if someone owns this device..they can shoot a really quick video showing the stiffness of the home button.
Also, even better...if someone owns both phones...which one would you pick again?
TLDR version: Nexus 6P or Edge+? Which one would you choose and why?
I am waiting for your answers guys! Hopefully I will get some fast.
Best regards,
Mihai Ilie

It depends. If you want guaranteed longterm updates, go for the Nexus 6p. I know the problem with Samsung. They have a great built quality but use closed source hardware, eFuses and only give you some updates as long as the device is new on the market. This is at least for me one reason why I would not want to own a Samsung device ever again.
If you want the freedom of eg. rooting your device, having the latest Android version, you are better off with a Nexus device. The hardware might not be as powerful in comparison to latest Samsung devices but the overall performance will be great. Once you go Nexus, you never go back

Go 6P. Always choose nexus when specs are that close. Carrier bloat and locked devices is now a Samsung norm I had the sgs6 and it was the laggiest phone I ever used. The 6P is butter.

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Hehe. My first nexus but I already feel like this ! Not even interested in the upcoming S7 anymore, screw Samsung with their touchwiz and ****ty update policy and closed sources.

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Samsung S6 Edge+ (does it have a loose button) or the Nexus 6P ? +my concerns

Hey guys!
I am kinda torn between these two devices. At first I waned the Edge+ but then after trying a few units in different shops I noticed that the home button is kinda loose. By loose I mean moving up and down (kind of like the one on the s6) instead of being stiff. Also I am pretty scared that it will be forgotten by Samsung after a while, just like my brand new s3 was forgotten back in the day (it only went from 4.0 to 4.3). Those being said..I think those two are my only concerns about the Edge+
On the other hand..is the Nexus 6P it's also a device I would like. It will always have the latest Android version (at least for about 3 years) and to me it looks okay. Not as sexy as the S6 edge+ but still looks nice. With this device I am concerned about either scratching the back of the graphite version..this exposing the raw aluminium...having the "visor" crack for no reason and I am also kinda concerned about the rigidity of the phone...last night I saw a guy on youtube bending it quite easily.
What would you recommend, guys? Nexus 6P or the Edge+
Please think what would you choose for yourself...and let me know. Also, are my concerns real? Did anyone scratch the back of the 6P or had it's visor crack by itself? Does anyone have an edge+ with a loose button? Hopefully if someone owns this device..they can shoot a really quick video showing the stiffness of the home button.
Also, even better...if someone owns both phones...which one would you pick again?
TLDR version: Nexus 6P or Edge+? Which one would you choose and why?
I am waiting for your answers guys! Hopefully I will get some fast.
Best regards,
Mihai Ilie
S6 Edge+ all over again
I've been using my S6 Edge+ since the launch day and if I have to, I'll pick this one again! I've never used a Nexus 6P, so probably my recommendation wouldn't be appropriate to depend on but the least I can do is tell you how the S6 Edge+ feels like!
1. No, I haven't noticed any loose Home button on my phone. Probably the store units were very roughly used. Also, I'm a hardware button fan (capacitive or tactile), so Edge+ gets a +1 here! It's just easy when the buttons are always there.
2. Display - The S6 Edge+/N5 Display super AMOLED display is amazing! The immersive feeling that you get while operating either of these devices is just incomparable! Deep blacks - another +1. 6P also has AMOLED as far as I've read but never tried it, so can't comment on its performance!
3. UFS2.0 vs eMMC 5.0 - If I'm currect, Nexus 6P is using eMMC storage while the the Samsung flagship is using UFS2.0 which is like 3 times faster than the former! And since it doesn't have any SD Card support, there's nothing to slow down the operations. Even the read/write from a PC on MTP is much faster than my old phones!
4. Exynos 7420 vs Snapdragon 810 - Processors are almost comparable except Exynos is clocked at 2.1 Ghz while the Snapdragon at 2 Ghz. Do not expect any such performance boost on either of them although the Exynos is 14nm fab while the other one is 20nm, so power consumption would a bit lesser in Exynos (just for the processor). If you look at the different benchmark results, you'll see Exynos 7420 above Snapdragon 810 but overall, the difference wouldn't be that significant!
5. 3 GB RAM vs 4 GB RAM - You might never need the additional 1 GB RAM with stock android on Nexus 6P but if you plan on putting another vanilla rom in your phone, an additional 1 GB would be significant in S6 Edge+. I never had any issue with the performance yet on S6 Edge+ but I believe 6P might perform better on a long run with additional upgrades and all (based on past nexus & note experience)
6. Camera : With OIS, S6E+/N5 has the best camera in the market! Sure 6P do have some nice slowmos, so it's upto your preference. I don't prefer to compare cell phone cameras, none of them are comparable to actual handheld cameras.
7. Gear VR - No, I'm not a Samsung fan but I do appreciate their efforts to excel in electronics industry. One of primary reasons behind getting a Samsung was to get my hands on Gear VR. And it was worth it! At just $99, it'll be the best toy you've ever owned! Combined with a Moga Controller, you'll be off to a parallel universe! Try it out in the stores.
8. Battery Life - With S6E+, I charge the phone at night and it survives the entire day on LTE always on and Wifi at home! I wouldn't say it has the best battery life, but I do not have any complains. Not so sure about 6P but considering it has 3450 mAh over 3000 in S6E+, I can only assume a better battery life with 6P.
Both the smartphones are comparable neck to neck although the S6E+ stands out due to it's amazing design. Both of them should be able to run all the latest games with highest details. The fingerprint sensor works great on S6E+, not sure about the 6P yet. And since you mentioned the software updates part, Nexus has always guaranteed upto 2 major upgrades and now they have announced 3 Years of monthly security updates (not featured updates) from the launch day of the device. As far as I've known, even Samsung has provided atleast 2 major upgrades (rolled out much slower than nexus though) on its flagships and recently they've shaken hands with Google on this monthly security update thing (not sure for 3 yrs or not though).
I know I probably haven't helped you choosing one but I hope the mentioned facts will help you choose one! Or the other comments will.:good:
No loose button here.
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I'm in the same boat. Want to trade my oneplus two for a s6 edge plus or nexus 6p.
Love the design, camera and screen from the edge but love the updates, fingerprint sensor and front facing sound from 6P.
no loose button on my Galaxy s6 edge+ Plus.
touchwiz is mostly lag free. sometimes my instagram crash sometimes cloeses for no reason but don't no if its the phone or the app it self.
s6 edge plus should get 2 years update.
Nexus 6P bends easily if pressed in the right spot. but otherwise should be fine.
get Nexus 6P if you want latest updates quickly as possible and can't wait. and get 3 years update.

Galaxy S7 Pros and Cons!

I have already preordered my Galaxy S7 Edge in Gold and I am sooooo excited to finally get my hands on this device! Samsung has seemingly checked all the boxes when it comes to a perfect phone, or have they?! They have brought back many of the features we missed on the Galaxy S6 (ie waterproofing, sdcard slot, better battery life ect). The phone seems to be a powerhouse with the Snapdragon 820, water cooling and Vulcan. Of course Samsung's s7 display has already been named the best in the industry by DisplayMate, and Samsung always delivers a best in class camera.
This seems like the phone to beat in 2016 however I do take issue with a few things. I have put together a list of 5 Reasons I think the Galaxy S7 has the potential to be the best phone of 2016, and also my 5 biggest complaints with the device. Will any of these issues keep you from purchasing the phone? Are the features enough for you to forgive these issues? Are these issues no big deal for you?
"major flaws...." Really? Lack of USB type c is a MAJOR flaw? Not a good title.
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"major flaws...." Really? Lack of USB type c is a MAJOR flaw? Not a good title.
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Yeah every forum everywhere I have seen that as a complaint. Personally I am thankful they did not. I would have probably passed on it if I had to add a 2nd charger everywhere I have one permanently placed now (have another phone in my household that isnt getting upgraded any time soon with microUSB so I couldnt even just replace what I have. It would actually be adding a 2nd).
No phone is perfect in my mind.
Cons for me are:
-the bloatware and waiting for updates
-the build, I'm in the minority that doesn't want "premium materials". Pretty much anything other than glass on the back I'd prefer
That might be it.
I would have liked a "shatter proof" screen like the Moto X Force has. Don't think that's a con.

Nexus 6P or Galaxy S7 ?

Hey guys
I'm going to buy a new phone next week , and I'm not sure what to buy .. first I was planning to get Nexus 6P since I'm a nexus fan since Galaxy Nexus , then Samsung announced the S7 and S7 Edge with pretty impressive specs and they're going to be available next week here
the price is the same ((Nexus 6P 64 gb version and the regular S7))
every phone has it's ups and downs for example the nexus phones are not popular here and it's really hard to find accessories for it and it's going to be very hard to fix the phone if the screen broke or something
and for the S7 touchwiz is a major turnoff for me with it's awful RAM management + scrolling lag (( not sure if they fixed it or not in the S7)) plus we'll have the exynos variant here so no AOSP ROMs
If you were me what you're going to buy ?
I returned my 6p after the case buckled at the volume rocker after a week of use.
Waiting for my S7 Edge now.
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This may help.. My 6P has had a few issues and I am waiting for a replacement. Sure the build quality is not as good as the S7, but given the choice, I would not switch to the S7. The software performance on the 6P is unmatched in my opinion.
However, you can't go wrong with either.. Samsung did a good job with the S7/edge
6P. The S7 is better on paper but, in the end, it's still a Samsung so the software will constantly be making it worse than it actually is. Also, the updates won't be as fast as Google's obv (not even close).
IMHO the quality of the software is moot if the phone falls apart in your hand.
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I have a 6P now, and I'm waiting for my S7 Edge to get here so I can switch over to it.
IIEtCII said:
Hey guys
I'm going to buy a new phone next week , and I'm not sure what to buy .. first I was planning to get Nexus 6P since I'm a nexus fan since Galaxy Nexus , then Samsung announced the S7 and S7 Edge with pretty impressive specs and they're going to be available next week here
the price is the same ((Nexus 6P 64 gb version and the regular S7))
every phone has it's ups and downs for example the nexus phones are not popular here and it's really hard to find accessories for it and it's going to be very hard to fix the phone if the screen broke or something
and for the S7 touchwiz is a major turnoff for me with it's awful RAM management + scrolling lag (( not sure if they fixed it or not in the S7)) plus we'll have the exynos variant here so no AOSP ROMs
If you were me what you're going to buy ?
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I own both phones - and I have to say that the fact that GOOGLE keeps the Nexus updated very regularly is tempting - heck, there is already a preview out for ANDROID N that you can flash for goodness sake - but despite that - the Galaxy S 7 Edge is a phenomenal phone - NONE BETTER that I have seen or used EVER. Benchmarks are off the charts - (in a manner of speaking) 138,750 was my most recent Antutu benchmark test. The camera is incredible -the phone looks fantastic - feels great in the hand - (actually feels smaller than what you think a 5.1 inch screen should feel) I have no regrets at all.
So - if yuo are a huge AOSP fan and need those very frequent updates then go with the Nexus - it is a great phone and you won't ever be disappointed about having to wait too long to get the next android update - but if that is not your number 1 reason for buying a phone, then I strongly recommend the Galaxy S 7 Edge.
Whatever you do - you will love the phone - they are both awesome. Oh and by the way, Samsung did a really nice job on Touchwiz this time - best implementation ever for all of their phones. It still ahs some bloat, but nowhere near what past phones have had. Do your self a favor - do not listen to people who have not personally used the S7 Edge for any length of time - who are haters of Samsung and would blast any Samsung phone regardless of the quality - but make your choice based on what is MOST important to you - you can't go wrong.
Simple. Which do you prioritize more: Hardware or software? If hardware, go with the S7. If software, go with the 6P. Although waterproofing aside, the 6P is no slouch in the hardware department either.
6p now have android n, if you like software 6p its for you, hardware go for s7 egde
Lagwiz..
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IIEtCII said:
Hey guys
I'm going to buy a new phone next week , and I'm not sure what to buy .. first I was planning to get Nexus 6P since I'm a nexus fan since Galaxy Nexus , then Samsung announced the S7 and S7 Edge with pretty impressive specs and they're going to be available next week here
the price is the same ((Nexus 6P 64 gb version and the regular S7))
every phone has it's ups and downs for example the nexus phones are not popular here and it's really hard to find accessories for it and it's going to be very hard to fix the phone if the screen broke or something
and for the S7 touchwiz is a major turnoff for me with it's awful RAM management + scrolling lag (( not sure if they fixed it or not in the S7)) plus we'll have the exynos variant here so no AOSP ROMs
If you were me what you're going to buy ?
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I say get the s7 and wait for the next nexus this year. I don't think the 6p is worth it at the moment imo.
Nexus6P + XDA = Winner! You can do the same math for the next Nexus!

Thinking of buying it - a couple of questions

I was always a dual user of both iOS and Android, but when the iPhone 6 came out, I decided to opt for the iPhone 6 Plus and use it primarily and gave my HTC M8 to my mother. I must say I had an amazing experience with HTC, using both the M7 and M8 consecutively. Recently I've been experiencing issues with the iPhone and the 6S does not really interest me, so I was thinking of going back to Android. The options I am looking at are the S7 Edge and HTC 10.
Since I've had a great experience with HTC, I thought I would go for the 10 but I read a lot of mixed reviews about it and from the looks department, it looks really similar to my M8 so it won't feel much different, and I believe HTC Sense has not been overhauled recently so it's going to feel almost exactly the same. I had horrible experiences with both the Galaxy S3 and S5, the latter being the WORST device I've ever used in my life (and I've used so many), which is why I am scared about going for the S7 Edge.
My experience with the S5 started well, but gradually kept getting worse and worse until it was time to give it up - it had the Exynos (not sure of the spelling) processor, so perhaps that is why? But I've always found TouchWiz to be quite laggy compared to stock Android, for example. I have read good reviews about the S7 Edge, however, and I have a couple of questions before going ahead and buying it:
1) How is TouchWiz nowadays? Is it smooth and snappy or would I need install custom ROMs and such? I really love custom ROMs and changing it up every now and then so I won't have problems with that.
2) Is there a noticeable difference between the Snapdragon and the Exynos? On the S5, the latter was NOT supported by developers at all, so it is the same case here or not?
3) Samsung seems to have many variants of the S7, but to my understanding there are two S7 Edge variants, one with a dual-sim (DUOS) and one with just one, so is that true? And if so, are they both supported by developers or just one of them?
4) How is your overall experience with the device so far? And is the S8 possibly coming out soon? I wouldn't mind waiting if it's going to be released very soon.
Thank you for your time.
p.s. I recently purchased a Moto 360 2nd gen smart watch which I absolutely watch and is one of the main reasons I want an Android device because its iOS support is horrendous; is the S7 Edge compatible with the Moto 360 fine? Or is the dependability solely relying on the Android Wear app itself rather than the actual device?
Rooting and developer support seem to crop up frequently in your post.
For that reason the Exynox version is probably more of interest.
However, I would suggest another option if you really feel that strongly about playing around with rom's and that is the Oneplus3. It has all the support you need.
Personally, the worst thing I can say about the Edge is that the alarm doesn't go quiet enough ... . I also use the Op3 though I have not rooted, it works just fine as is (as does the S7E).
Both are plenty fast enough for any software currently available. - I think half the problems some seem to have with the S7(E) seems to originate with the need to customize every little bit.
TouchWhiz is good (imho) and even the browser is optimized and blazingly fast. At the end of the day it comes down to UI preference. Op's UI is much closer to stock Android and I like that too.
When it comes to form factor and pride of ownership, there is only one winner though and I doubt many could argue with that one.
1) Honestly I can't think of a single bad thing about the TouchWiz on the S7 Edge. Works just fine, My only serious complain is that dark themes don't theme some parts of the overall UI (such as the battery graph, and set alarms) and therefore are left white and looks... unfinished. In terms of performance no issues whatsoever.
2) There is difference yes, the Exynos being the better option. People have reported better user experience, as well as better battery life on the Exynos version. However don't expect much development for the version with Samsung's cpu.
4) The S7 is a few months old, way too early to talk about S8. It is a really good phone, probably the best I've had and I've had my fair and square experience with smartphones. The battery life for me alone is better than anything I've tried, maybe only for the 6S Plus. Overall 4+ hours SoT on heavy day.
The HTC is a good phone, but I personally believe the S7 edge is the better option here. The M10 is not worth the askes price.
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Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
TarekElsakka said:
Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
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The Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge with the Exynos processor is the best in my opinion. The Galaxy S7 with the Exynos processor is the SM-G930F and the S7 Edge is the SM-G935F. The "F" is the designation for the Global model with an unlocked bootloader and can easily be rooted with CF Autoroot and Odin. TWRP is available for both variants of the S7 as well.
If you can open the box at the store and power up the device, go to Settings - About Device
You will see the model number.
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S7 Edge worth it ? Planning to get Note 8. Also does it feel small compared to 6P?

Hey Guys been following this device for a while. I’ve always been interested in the Larger Samsung phones and had a Note 2 and 4. Skipped the Note 5 due to no SD card and was gladly awaiting the Note 7. Couldn’t resists and tried out the Nexus 6P People always rave about due to stock android and as of now I’m ready to come back to Samsung. Have read up on the device and decided I would get the international version. I always root my devices and am not interested in a device that can’t be rooted. Since the T-Mobile version has a locked bootloader and no TWRP and such so I decided to get the international version which prices have now been falling for and some good deals can be had around the holiday time period. I see them new for about $600 now. I was going to miss VoLTE but it seems since development has been cracking for a while there are even workarounds at this point. I don’t care about Samsung pay and am willing to lose that. Anyway my main question since I have very large hands and I definitely lean more to the larger devices. Is the S7 edge worth getting now? I’m thinking if I buy this now I will hold out and see how the S8 is and the Note 8 as well. Good thing I Didn’t jump on the Note 7 on day 1 as I planned as we saw how the whole recall panned over. I was going to buy it off of eBay as well so we saw how that whole fiasco would have went. So I think it’s prudent to wit 1-3 months after a new phone has come out first to see adoption rate as well as how the development community will be. I assume at this point that since I am rooting the device it will have a lot less resale value if I decide to sell it since Knox will be tripped and Samsung Pay won’t work so I want to be sure it’s worth it. I was considering a OnePlus 3T since it’s a lot cheaper at $480 for 128GB but it probably doesn’t make sense to have 2 phone running close to stock android since I will be keeping the 6P as a backup phone. The screen also can’t compare to the s7 edge.
My second issue is that does the S7 edge feel very small in your hands in comparison to the 6P or Note 7? I have large hands so devices that are small make my hands feel cramped. I tried out the S7 and it was way too small. Is the S7 edge comparable to say the Note 4 and Nexus 6P. I did have the opportunity to hold a Note 7 at work and it was the perfect size. Even though I did notice the screens have been staying the same size yet it feels like the devices are shrinking. it’s kind of weird. I’m waiting for Samsung to bump the screen size to say 6.0 inches.
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If you like the size of the Note 7, you may be OK with an S7 Edge - it's a little smaller, but not too much. It's such a personal thing, though, you should really try to find one to try it out. Here's a size comparison of the Note 7, S7 Edge and S7:
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I have the 6P, had a Gen 2 N7 for about 10 days before the final recall and now have an S7E. The S7E and N7 feel very similar in the hand. I wear XL or XXL gloves and also like a bigger phone, so I know where you're coming from there. I put a Speck Candy Shell case on my S7E and it feels very comfortable in the hand now. I also have a case on my 6P, but it's a bit thinner.
At first, I noticed keyboard was a bit smaller, but it's not a big change and I got used to it quickly (using Swype). I have no reason to root this phone. First time ever for me not doing that to an Android phone. The main reason I always rooted was to get an ad blocker, but that's not needed anymore since we have the Block-This app available to side load. And the phone is the best I've ever owned for battery life. It's as fast as the 6P is, too. Very fluid interface. I may end up missing TiBu, but you can still back up most settings pretty easily.
I didn't think it would be a replacement for the N7, and will probably also buy an N8. But I have to say this phone has surprised and impressed me. I'm really very happy with it.
jejb said:
I have the 6P, had a Gen 2 N7 for about 10 days before the final recall and now have an S7E. The S7E and N7 feel very similar in the hand. I wear XL or XXL gloves and also like a bigger phone, so I know where you're coming from there. I put a Speck Candy Shell case on my S7E and it feels very comfortable in the hand now. I also have a case on my 6P, but it's a bit thinner.
At first, I noticed keyboard was a bit smaller, but it's not a big change and I got used to it quickly (using Swype). I have no reason to root this phone. First time ever for me not doing that to an Android phone. The main reason I always rooted was to get an ad blocker, but that's not needed anymore since we have the Block-This app available to side load. And the phone is the best I've ever owned for battery life. It's as fast as the 6P is, too. Very fluid interface. I may end up missing TiBu, but you can still back up most settings pretty easily.
I didn't think it would be a replacement for the N7, and will probably also buy an N8. But I have to say this phone has surprised and impressed me. I'm really very happy with it.
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Thanks really appreciate the feedback. happy to see i wasn't the only one.
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If you like the size of the Note 7, you may be OK with an S7 Edge - it's a little smaller, but not too much. It's such a personal thing, though, you should really try to find one to try it out. Here's a size comparison of the Note 7, S7 Edge and S7:
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Thanks for the site. Never knew I could see them side by side like that.
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Thanks for the site. Never knew I could see them side by side like that.
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To be honest, I find it's no substitute for handling the phones in person. What looks subtle in the images can feel like quite a difference in the hand.

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