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I'm looking to buy a Note pretty soon and since it looks like there won't be an official release in the USA any time soon it looks like I'l have to import one. My major concern with this is what to do if there is a problem and want to return it. I see that some appear to have issues with the display and with any new device there's always the concern that they haven't got all the bugs worked out so being an early adopter caries with it some defect risks. So, what's the deal with importing from Germany or the UK and are there any sellers to stay away from or prefer?
Thanks,
Brian
same concern here. i am really close to buying from either from clove or handtech, both UK retailers. do they provide any kind of warranty/satisfaction guarantee? also, what about the manufacturer warrany? do these brand new phones not come with a Samsung warranty? thx
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same concern here. i am really close to buying from either from clove or handtech, both UK retailers. do they provide any kind of warranty/satisfaction guarantee? also, what about the manufacturer warrany? do these brand new phones not come with a Samsung warranty? thx
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They are EU phones so come with a Samsung 2 year international warranty which doesn't include the US. Handtec and I'm sure probably Clove as well cover the phone for the full 2 years. If you need warranty service you ship it back to them in the UK and they handle the repair through Samsung for you.
Raptor1956 said:
I'm looking to buy a Note pretty soon and since it looks like there won't be an official release in the USA any time soon it looks like I'l have to import one. My major concern with this is what to do if there is a problem and want to return it. I see that some appear to have issues with the display and with any new device there's always the concern that they haven't got all the bugs worked out so being an early adopter caries with it some defect risks. So, what's the deal with importing from Germany or the UK and are there any sellers to stay away from or prefer?
Thanks,
Brian
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Hello,
I am also looking for note and my condition is same they don't provide any manufacturer warranty.
So I am concerned about the quality, I also doubt that it could be refurbished or korean copy of the cell phone
Sellers are saying that the import it from Indonesia. Also they are saying that its genuine and will connect via samsung Kies as well so I am thinking to go for it.
What will you suggest?
Buy the way did you purchased the cell?
Thanks
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
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I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
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Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
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Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
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i was thinking of buying this device also or the moto g, for back up phone only.
Beamed from my LG G3 D855
cheeze.keyk said:
go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
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Where is their forum?
i think its bbs.elephone.hk
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Will the Elephone p7000 work with USA 4G/LTE? I've read several of these Chinese phones I have been looking at have poor wifi range. Does Elephone typically have that problem? I ask because where my office is at work isn't that close to the wireless router, I only get about 50% signal strength.
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My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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Wait! Audio output too is a major downside. Never got such a ****ty one.. Unless I got defective unit? Doesn't seem so tough..
I've been using this phone for 3 days. It's fast, battery is OK ish, screen is good, audio wise it's OK, lacks compass and gyroscope, camera isn't so good, pictures come out kinda fuzzy. My ex-phone is a Jiayu G3T, so that is what I'm comparing it to. Cost me about 120euro.
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I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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Sorry but this only partially true.
Elephone is only a manufacturer and does only B2B.
The information flow of Elephone is rather bad. They still have on their webpage under new products the P7000 announced as available from May. However the P7000 was only partially delivered to pre-orders and a lot of people who paid for the phone are still waiting for it. Apparently the next round of deliveries for the P7000 to shops is announced for the 25th of June.
The other new Elephone models G9, P4000 and S2/S2plus announced for June are still only to pre-order in shops.
[*]The shops where you can buy the products are not truthful about the Elephone products they have in stock. In my experience you have to ask them if the have the have the product in stock in their warehouse ready for shipping.
I did cancel my order for the P7000 in gold with To2C and had to fight to get a full refund.
I placed my order with them at the 21/05/ and got a confirmation of them that they will ship it from the 25th. On the 25th To2C said we'll ship Wednesday or Thursday, on the 28th Friday because they have do put them through their QC. On the 30th they admitted that they do not fulfil the order, it will be shipped out of direct from the Elephone factory to customers and that they cannot send via PostNL. I then asked them what MT6752 3GB phone they have in their own warehouse in stock ready to be send out. They offered the Ecoo E04 (which I looked up as alternative already; it is build by Elephone and out on the market). Next Monday 01/06/ they said again sorry they do not have it in stock, it wilol be send by Elephone. At this point I cancelled my order with them and wanted to be refunded. To2C send me an email showing that they put the paypal fee to me. At that point I did open a dispute with paypal, contacted paypal and raised the dispute to a claim for a full refund, which was done with in the next hours.
I did order then the Ecoo E04 at Aliexpress and it has cleared customs late last Friday. But be aware there are a lot of shop on Aliexpress who are not to be trusted. Eg. they put up pictures of a product alleged to be in stock and you find the same picture for it in an other shop with only the paper been photoshoped. There are even some shops which sell with DHL or FedEx shipping via an extra stop VAT/Duty free.
They develop only their own stock and custom ROMs.
Elephone did not release the kernel source code for one of their android models, at least not on their forum under Developers Discussion› Android kernel.
There are some customers not happy with the support they get of Elephone.
They announced only the release of the kernel source code for their new MT 6753 based P8000 (slower cpu and Mali T720). The P8000 is announced for July, but well see my comment above
I posted a request in their forum thread to release the P8000 source code to release all their android kernel source codes.
Please support my post to push Elephone to release the kernel source codes: hxxp://bbs.elephone.hk/archiver/tid-5448.html
I as well ordered a P7000 in gold at to2c.com during pre-sale on May 12th and I finally got it delivered to my place in the EU on June 16th, which is absolutely okay.
I also had problems getting the phone in stock with t2oc, it does get shipped direct and I complained to them about the in stock claim, they then gave a tracking reference which still said registered but not dispatched... That said I good the mains adaptor from t2oc within 2 weeks and the phone from elephone within 3 weeks, my old spare HTC sensation has been passed on to my father and my HTC one is now my spare. I'm happy with the p7000 so far, I'm not a developer but its a new toy and only £150, I've ordered another for a friend through coolicool and getting the same stock issues
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I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
deaglecat said:
yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
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*Facepalm*
Looks like they deleted the G2 section :/
I do reccomend to buy one. It's cheap, nice, good, not small capacity (16 GB if I'm right).
But it's hell hard to root but basicly other things are nice and I enjoy using Elephone.
Hi there.
I've decided to return my A2017G and get the A2017U model. I have already looked up online where I could order the US Model. But most of my favorite shops like BHPhoto don't send the Axon 7 to Europe. It says "Due to restrictions".
That's the first for me as I use BHPhoto for my Home Cinema and Photo equipment.
Does anyone know an good alternative?
I already checked gearbest but they only offer the International Model (A2017G).
Had the same problem. US official sellers of ZTE AXON 7 are zteusa.com, newegg, bestbuy and bhphoto. Bhphoto is excellent shop with top notch service and international shipping so I placed order end of July after American model launch. When I tried proceed to checkout I got pop up window saying "error has occurred". Asked customers service, they were very polite and it seemed that bhphoto ships international and they would send my phone but ZTE made international sale of Axon 7 forbidden and they couldn't omit this limitation. Was so pissed off :/ finally I bought on ebay but really overpaid (with custom fee 200 usd more). However I don't regret any penny spent at US version. In every aspect it's night and day compared to EU model.
I guess I will sell EU version and buy another US (wanted EU for warranty)
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You need to use a shipment service that ships the device to you after receiving it. Something like Shipito.
The only issue are the taxes and the shipment cost.
I have a buddy living and working in NYC he offered me to buy and ship the phone to me. It's just sold out everywhere it seems.
I hope BHPhoto gets an restock soon.
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I already checked gearbest but they only offer the International Model (A2017G).
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Doesn't Gearbest have chinese version with multilingual ROM (A2017)?
nathasnajperowa said:
However I don't regret any penny spent at US version. In every aspect it's night and day compared to EU model.
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Besides of lack of EU volume limit what are the advantages of A2017U?
For me the most important in phones hardware are screen (amoled 1440p is always my choice) and audio. For audio US version is much better for me cause besides clarity i like really smokin' volume. US version sound loud, crispy, clear and punchy, European is really quiet and dim.
And YES, for me audio power and volume is DEAL BREAKER, i listen to US version at max volume and that's the level I'm satisfied. I don't care about its healthy or not, I'm grown up and it's my preference to blow my ears with noise
Next reason software is completely different. American Axon 7 has ui with app drawer and my voice working (i always use this feature when taking a photo, extremely useful with long exposure you can't move the device to not destroy pic), my voice also open apps etc but most scenarios besides camera i use Google now.
Volte is active and ready to use.
Updates are better done and more frequent, i have September security patch with B27, with EU B03 it's July.
Camera performance, battery life i find also better with us version.
I don't care missing 800lte, cause i use my data without any problems. Watching. HD podcast, streaming extreme quality Spotify, etc with no lags and buffering.
Sent from my ZTE A2017U
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Doesn't Gearbest have chinese version with multilingual ROM (A2017)?
Besides of lack of EU volume limit what are the advantages of A2017U?
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Gearbest version is the A2017G. A friend of mine got it for 350€ with their sale coupon.
The other advantage would be VoLTE support as. The A2017G has no VoLTE in its firmware/baseband. The A2017U does.
Software support is far better and way ahead on the US version.
Also I order from Newegg you get 200$ headphones for free it the current pre-order.
celoxocis said:
Gearbest version is the A2017G. A friend of mine got it for 350â?¬ with their sale coupon.
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That's too bad. Could your friend confirm if ROM that Gearbest Axon comes with, also has the same EU volume limits like the A2017G sold in Europe? It's pretty much the only thing that could drive me away from A2017G since I mostly care about quality of the headphone jack, speakers, screen and build quality in this phone.
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That's too bad. Could your friend confirm if ROM that Gearbest Axon comes with, also has the same EU volume limits like the A2017G sold in Europe? It's pretty much the only thing that could drive me away from A2017G since I mostly care about quality of the headphone jack, speakers, screen and build quality in this phone.
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Yes it's the same.
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Yes it's the same.
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This is ridiculous, then. From what I've heard even australians are getting A2017G, so it seems so stupid that some bizarre EU restrictions would hinder audio experience for non-europeans too. Shame, ZTE, shame.
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This is ridiculous, then. From what I've heard even australians are getting A2017G, so it seems so stupid that some bizarre EU restrictions would hinder audio experience for non-europeans too. Shame, ZTE, shame.
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The audio limitations are probably a software limitation. Which hopefully will be undone by CM.
I doubt that they would implement a hardware limitation. That would have raised the bill of materials.
Where can I buy the G int. model?
Anyone know where to get the EU Mi 9T 128gb Version Factory Sealed in Europe,Amazon seems to only sell the 64gb version and it's out of stock
Got mine from honorbuy. But more expensive but I had mine in 26hours(!!). Sent from Italy to Germany. Black 128Gb ~390€
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Got mine from honorbuy. But more expensive but I had mine in 26hours(!!). Sent from Italy to Germany. Black 128Gb ~390€
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Factory Sealed unopened ?
I sent them a message recently about the redmi k20 pro and they said they open them to test them,but maybe not the mi 9t
€390 for the 128 version is pretty decent it's €330 for 64gb one on amazon
I bough my mi9t from this https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/offer?action=desc&aid=4827612891&productid=3974212410 and it is factory sealed. but look for other sellers https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp...10&filter=10&cid=5849175&scroll=shop_sections this from europe are even cheaper now, and probably they come factory sealed.
for this mine seller it is sure factory sealed.
i paid it 354eur, as rakuten offer me 30eur discount for sopping over 300eur
tradingshenzhen[dot]com also recently adjusted their prices for both versions 327,-€ / 64GB and 357,-€ / 128GB
It's also said that in their next delivery they will have all three colors available
slavke1976 said:
I bough my mi9t from this https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/offer?action=desc&aid=4827612891&productid=3974212410 and it is factory sealed. but look for other sellers https://fr.shopping.rakuten.com/mfp...10&filter=10&cid=5849175&scroll=shop_sections this from europe are even cheaper now, and probably they come factory sealed.
for this mine seller it is sure factory sealed.
i paid it 354eur, as rakuten offer me 30eur discount for sopping over 300eur
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What about the warranty when buying a phone from sites like that?
I'm looking to buy myself one 128gb version, and as someone mentioned above amazon is out of stock, so now I'm wondering whits sites like you mentioned + Goldway via alixpsress etc...
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What about the warranty when buying a phone from sites like that?
I'm looking to buy myself one 128gb version, and as someone mentioned above amazon is out of stock, so now I'm wondering whits sites like you mentioned + Goldway via alixpsress etc...
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i received bill with price, and imei number and it say i have warranty of 24months. But anyway i have 12 months of warranty of rakuten site.
how is warranty from goldway via alixpress?
If something wrong with the phone within 1 week of arrival goldway takes full responsibility. If you have problems with the phone after that - let's say 6 months and you have problems with your charging port goldway will take care of it but you as as a customer needs to pay the delivery fee to china, which is a hussle.
The best would be when we get the phone and with the correct IMEI the warranty would be accepted by xiaomi global - like if we can directly send the phone to xiaomi and not return to the seller in china.
yes, that would be the best if we get phone direct from xiaomi shop. but when i look to order mine, i was waiting for 17jun for official site of xiaomi in france, and i add to basket, but thinking which coclour, blue or black, and it takes me 1 min to think. and then when i click to confirm and buy, it was already sold, so i had to find alternative site to buy . i was not enough patient to wait for few days more, i could buy even cheaper then for 354eur.
i dont know about warranty, for me if it is in few first, lets say weeks all ok, then what could happen if i am not alone responsable. I have bad experience with meizu, even i send and i was ready to pay all expenses for repair of my phone, they didnt do, they even break connectors from power and vol+/- keys to main borad, and phone was not able to use after. when i send notice back about that connectors, they said it was already like this when they receive my phone.
same bad experience with huawei.
Exactly. That's why i'm not sure if I want to order the phone via those sites, because like you said...what if something happens? Like, i need a new battery? I need to send the phone back.wait at least 1 month etc...and there will always be something wrong with every phone.
But as I see now, even here in Croatia the MI 9t 64gb costs the same as the 128gb on alixpress, its just too expensive here.
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Exactly. That's why i'm not sure if I want to order the phone via those sites, because like you said...what if something happens? Like, i need a new battery? I need to send the phone back.wait at least 1 month etc...and there will always be something wrong with every phone.
But as I see now, even here in Croatia the MI 9t 64gb costs the same as the 128gb on alixpress, its just too expensive here.
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Izvini nisam video da si iz Hrvateske . Sorry didnt see that you are from Croatia . In Serbia mi9t cost 380eur 64GB, it will be in shop from tomorrow. if someone wants sure warranty of 24moths then i think no doubt where to buy.
I chose to buy in sites as i posted or in aliexperes, or from local site name kupujemprodajem, i have sure 1year of warranty, and if i want new battery, i just can go at local service center and ask to put me new battery. even if i have to pay. for such things, it is cheaper to pay then to send phone back to china, and wait extra month, or even two to have phone back.
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Izvini nisam video da si iz Hrvateske . Sorry didnt see that you are from Croatia .
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Nema frke, maloprije sam izmjenio.
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I chose to buy in sites as i posted or in aliexperes, or from local site name kupujemprodajem, i have sure 1year of warranty, and if i want new battery, i just can go at local service center and ask to put me new battery. even if i have to pay. for such things, it is cheaper to pay then to send phone back to china, and wait extra month, or even two to have phone back.
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Yes, but if you change for example your battery at a local dealer (not authorised) - you void your 2 year warranty which is enforced by law. At least for all electronic products for the EU, i suppose Serbia enforces it as well. Keep that in mind.
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Summa sumrum, you can change your battery wherever you like, but you lose your 2 year warranty. If i buy a phone from amazon (for example) i have a 2 year warranty by default. If i go and change something without amazon - so if i go to a local guy who can change it i lose the warranty.
you are right, but it is why we have options, to buy phone by lover price, and questioned warranty, or to buy overpriced phone with warranty ( but when it comes too, no we dont accept this, we dont accept that, .... )
FlorianReicht said:
tradingshenzhen[dot]com also recently adjusted their prices for both versions 327,-€ / 64GB and 357,-€ / 128GB
It's also said that in their next delivery they will have all three colors available
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Still waiting on that re-stock with different color variants....as of today they are none
Any idea where to get this phone for UK buyer like me. I checked honourbuy https://www.honorbuy.com/1687-xiaom...-blue.html#/option-global_version_6128gb_blue and its coming from Germany which is fine but then in checkout delivery I found additional shipping cost to UK €17.00 added to it.
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Any idea where to get this phone for UK buyer like me. I checked honourbuy https://www.honorbuy.com/1687-xiaom...-blue.html#/option-global_version_6128gb_blue and its coming from Germany which is fine but then in checkout delivery I found additional shipping cost to UK €17.00 added to it.
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Yea,that kind of bummed me out a bit too,there not exactly selling the phone at it's cheapest either but if you wanted to get it quick it's an option,I would check eBay,or Amazon if you want the 64gb version,
I haven't found a site that doesn't charge extra for shipping besides eglobal but I find them very dodgy,(though I've heard good things also)
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Yea,that kind of bummed me out a bit too,there not exactly selling the phone at it's cheapest either but if you wanted to get it quick it's an option,I would check eBay,or Amazon if you want the 64gb version,
I haven't found a site that doesn't charge extra for shipping besides eglobal but I find them very dodgy,(though I've heard good things also)
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eglobal is cheap at the moment and dropping price,currently its £261 there but they dont have any accessory and yes they I have heard things about but not as bad as tobydeals.
I was also torn between mi 9 I really like it but the headphone jack absence killed it for me
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eglobal is cheap at the moment and dropping price,currently its £261 there but they dont have any accessory and yes they I have heard things about but not as bad as tobydeals.
I was also torn between mi 9 I really like it but the headphone jack absence killed it for me
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I had a really weird experience with eglobal today that put me off them all together.I added my personal info in and was thinking hard on the 9T in my cart but had to leave the site to get back to work
Got about 10 missed calls throughout the morning from places like Africa,Burundi, Switzerland, definitely scamming attempts ,then this evening got email from eglobal saying I'd left an item in my cart just click here price is 9999,I'm sure if I clicked they would of tried to charge me that.
Looking elsewhere now,but still unsure as have a 6T at the moment but really like the 9T design and cameras. The mi 9 is too similar to my 6T. Also kind of keen on the k20 pro so thinking might be worth waiting for a mi 9T pro
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I had a really weird experience with eglobal today that put me off them all together.I added my personal info in and was thinking hard on the 9T in my cart but had to leave the site to get back to work
Got about 10 missed calls throughout the morning from places like Africa,Burundi, Switzerland, definitely scamming attempts ,then this evening got email from eglobal saying I'd left an item in my cart just click here price is 9999,I'm sure if I clicked they would of tried to charge me that.
Looking elsewhere now,but still unsure as have a 6T at the moment but really like the 9T design and cameras. The mi 9 is too similar to my 6T. Also kind of keen on the k20 pro so thinking might be worth waiting for a mi 9T pro
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wow... scammers... Burundi in Africa, even Switzerland? wow...are you in UK or where are you. I am in UK.
The decision with 9t is because I dont need all that selfie camera movement, I am fine with simple stuff but then the fact that I cant charge phone and use my head phone at same time is not good.
The its more expensive and yeah... its the headphone input that killed it.
Do you know when Mi 9T pro is coming out?
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wow... scammers... Burundi in Africa, even Switzerland? wow...are you in UK or where are you. I am in UK.
The decision with 9t is because I dont need all that selfie camera movement, I am fine with simple stuff but then the fact that I cant charge phone and use my head phone at same time is not good.
The its more expensive and yeah... its the headphone input that killed it.
Do you know when Mi 9T pro is coming out?
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Romours are it will come in September but that's not confirmed.but you can get the k20 pro with Chinese software at the moment but no band 20 for 4G.
I'm in Ireland but there nothing over here and we use UK plugs so interested in all UK relevant stores. Yea the headphone is pretty much dead on most brands,I don't mind because I never use it
So, i notice sites like Giztop and Aliexpress sell the Chinese variant of OnePlus 8 Pro for very cheap. Around 800-900 bucks. and they advertise with "global rom" What does this mean? Can they actually flash on a real Global ROM, entirely supported by OnePlus already on the CN versions? What do i lose by getting a CN version over a global version that i can buy in a store in my country for 1100bucks?
I am torn on buying a OnePlus 8 Pro CN version for 850bucks or the Sony Xperia 1 Pro for 1200dollars global from my country. But that is quite the price difference. On the other hand, i'm scared of the supposed massive OP 8 Pro screen issues? are those more prevalent on the CN versions? i see people reporting major loss in max screen brightness, calibration being way off, green tints etc etc? Hoping someone here can give some reassurance. I feel like the safe option is the Sony, but yeah dunno.
If you're buying the device from "abroad" recommend you send flowers first.
"Sorry I'm bored "
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So, i notice sites like Giztop and Aliexpress sell the Chinese variant of OnePlus 8 Pro for very cheap. Around 800-900 bucks. and they advertise with "global rom" What does this mean? Can they actually flash on a real Global ROM, entirely supported by OnePlus already on the CN versions? What do i lose by getting a CN version over a global version that i can buy in a store in my country for 1100bucks?
I am torn on buying a OnePlus 8 Pro CN version for 850bucks or the Sony Xperia 1 Pro for 1200dollars global from my country. But that is quite the price difference. On the other hand, i'm scared of the supposed massive OP 8 Pro screen issues? are those more prevalent on the CN versions? i see people reporting major loss in max screen brightness, calibration being way off, green tints etc etc? Hoping someone here can give some reassurance. I feel like the safe option is the Sony, but yeah dunno.
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Nothing wrong..
IN2020 China
IN 2021 INDIA
IN 2023 EU
IN 2025 GLOBAL
These phones are probably the chinese (IN2020) with global rom..
Go for it ..on alli 760€ the 8/128 pro
just do note in2025 even its dual sim only works with single sim
cultofluna said:
Nothing wrong..
IN2020 China
IN 2021 INDIA
IN 2023 EU
IN 2025 GLOBAL
These phones are probably the chinese (IN2020) with global rom..
Go for it ..on alli 760€ the 8/128 pro
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So it doesn't matter if i get the Chinese version or not? It's still the same rom as the 2025 global? There is no difference at all?
Ok let's get this straight..
First and foremost.
No one, in any situation unless you want to our feel like losing all your money, should order anything from the likes of Ali Express.
The clue is in the name.
if you want a Oneplus phone, then order it from the correct channels.
Or get it on contract, or be ready to sit through a total turd storm when you need to return to sender.
The likes of Ali Express shouldn't even be mentioned in XDA im amazed that you've been allowed to name this thread.
Ali Express is one toe dipped into the dark web, recognizable by the amount of bad deals you think you're going to get but don't.
Short answer??
Avoid Ali, period.
Pay for the phone you want and stop spreading misinformation, unless you're in China and in a OnePlus sellers shop..
Modem is probably the key factor. The band support is what you'll need.
I, too, have wondered also. iN2020 supports n41 5g but not sure if that's the same 41 that Tmo uses. If so, that would be great
dladz said:
Ok let's get this straight..
First and foremost.
No one, in any situation unless you want to our feel like losing all your money, should order anything from the likes of Ali Express.
The clue is in the name.
Don't be a complete idiot, if you want a Oneplus phone, then order it from the correct channels.
Or get it on contract, or be ready to sit through a total turd storm when you need to return to sender.
The likes of Ali Express shouldn't even be mentioned in XDA im amazed that you've been allowed to name this thread.
Ali Express is one toe dipped into the dark web, recognizable by the amount of bad deals you think you're going to get but don't.
Short answer??
Avoid Ali, period.
Pay for the phone you want and stop spreading misinformation, unless you're in China and in a OnePlus sellers shop..
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Mate, what are you talking about. Nothing about this post was even remotely true. AliExpress is pretty reputable. It's basically the Chinese Amazon. This isn't the wild west days of 2010 with Chinese e-commerce.
I order stuff off AliExpress all the time. 99% of time something arrives as advertised. When it doesn't - I just open a claim and I get my money back. Items take longer these days to arrive due to ePacket and covid-19 - but I always get what I ordered.
I think you might be thinking of Alibaba, which also in turn has dramatically improved in the last few years.
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Mate, what are you talking about. Nothing about this post was even remotely true. AliExpress is pretty reputable. It's basically the Chinese Amazon. This isn't the wild west days of 2010 with Chinese e-commerce.
I order stuff off AliExpress all the time. 99% of time something arrives as advertised. When it doesn't - I just open a claim and I get my money back. Items take longer these days to arrive due to ePacket and covid-19 - but I always get what I ordered.
I think you might be thinking of Alibaba, which also in turn has dramatically improved in the last few years.
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Totally agree..
Bought 3 devices from alli( op5, xiaomi mi 6, mi9lite)
2 pairs of buds , mi box..etc...
Never had a problem , very fast shipping....
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Cakkerlakker said:
So it doesn't matter if i get the Chinese version or not? It's still the same rom as the 2025 global? There is no difference at all?
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Its the Chinese model (IN2020) with global ROM (IN11AA)
The same ROM as the IN2025 model
I will also order one next month..
You could also try Wonda Mobile, they are based in Hong Kong. They have a complete section of faq on the actual device, the only main difference would be the bands like 5g. They also have a section which lists them so have a look at that to make sure your network supports it.
I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.
JodyBreeze901 said:
I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.
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No option to return if you change your mind even paying a restocking fee?
JodyBreeze901 said:
I bought a OnePlus 8 Pro from Giztop and it's the Chinese version with Oxygen OS on it. I immediately regret it and now I can't return it. If you're in the US, don't do it.
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Why regret it?
surge27 said:
Modem is probably the key factor. The band support is what you'll need.
I, too, have wondered also. iN2020 supports n41 5g but not sure if that's the same 41 that Tmo uses. If so, that would be great
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I was looking at it when you couldn't get one in the US. The bands (n71 and n41) were the issue.
So far, have not seen any post from anyone in US TMO that has one that works on LTE and 5G over here.
gaww said:
I was looking at it when you couldn't get one in the US. The bands (n71 and n41) were the issue.
So far, have not seen any post from anyone in US TMO that has one that works on LTE and 5G over here.
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Ya, 41 is on iN2020 but not sure if it's actually the same 41 here in U.S.
surge27 said:
Ya, 41 is on iN2020 but not sure if it's actually the same 41 here in U.S.
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Yeah - that's an issue, but 6000 mhz n71 is also big , as it both supports LTE and 5G. I didn't see that at all.
wilpang said:
No option to return if you change your mind even paying a restocking fee?
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I can't afford to be without a phone for a month maybe more. My job requires me to have a cell phone and my note 5 backup finally died on me. So I'm stuck with this phone unfortunately
JodyBreeze901 said:
I can't afford to be without a phone for a month maybe more. My job requires me to have a cell phone and my note 5 backup finally died on me. So I'm stuck with this phone unfortunately
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But again, what's wrong with it?..
cultofluna said:
But again, what's wrong with it?..
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Well, for one I'm missing a few bands compared to the IN2023 version. That's the most important thing to me. Two, I honestly feel like the 5g is not as strong due to me missing those bands.
Hey, just to give my 2 cents about ordering this phone from China....
Just did it and went for the 12/256 Ultramarine Oneplus 8 Pro at the end of April for about $930 USD, shipping included, on AliExpress.
Took a LONG time to arrive to me (6 weeks!) BUT... Phone is perfect, no defect, screen is gorgeous and nothing wrong with it, even though it is probably a "first batch" unit. Got a Chinese IN2020 unit flashed by seller with Global ROM (came with 10.5.3 or 10.5.4 ROM out of the box), had a pre-applied (plastic) screen protector that will allow me to wait a few more days/weeks to get my UV 3D glass screen protectors for a better protection and better light transmittance. Unit looked new, with all the packaging (even though it was flashed to Global ROM by seller, but still, they managed to make it look like it has never even been turned on, as the phone box itself was still fully wrapped/sealed with plastic).
Once turned on, immediately updated to 10.5.8 Global without any problem, unlocked bootloader, booted to latest TWRP, Rooted of course and applied my usual Magisk modules, as well as flashed a custom kernel (Omega, to be precise). Tweaked my unit to my desire, installed a Gcam to have more options regarding photography, and... well ,that's all, mate!
Nothing much to say, except I'm delighted by my purchase and by this phone for now! Coming from a Oneplus 5T with custom Android Q ROM, it is a BIG step ahead and definitely impressive piece of hardware. However, in terms of speed, can't say the difference is huge (sure, OP8 Pro is faster, but not by a 100X, not even a 2X factor when you use it normally).
If you have an opportunity to buy the Chinese version at a good price from AE or any other reseller, offering some warranty in case something goes wrong during transportation or with the unit itself of course, and if you are not able to get it from your local store (it was and still is not easily available in my country at a decent price right now), then go on and do it! Just remember, unless you go for DHL or other fast shipping carrier, you'll have to be patient.
Cheers!