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Hi all
The 4k camera of the Note 3 seems to be quite impressive. I'm actually thinking about buying the Sony RX100 II camera for travelling, but I'm unsure whether it is worth it. Since compact digital cameras don't support 4k yet I would just buy yesterday's technology.
What do you guys think, does it make sense to buy a compact digital camera at the moment despite of already owning a Note 3? Or is it better to wait for 4k digital cameras?
Thanks in advance for all inputs.
Depends on the price. The Note 3 camera is downright horrible in low-light, fluorescent light and with motion.
I'm a Canon-person (Technically I'm a DSLR user), so I can't say how good that Sony camera is. But the Note 3 camera is only good in bright sunlight, so it's probably a good idea to buy an additional camera anyway if you travel a lot.
As for 4K, that's only VIDEOS. You'd be hard pressed to find a digital compact camera these days with a resolution that low. For photographs, 4K is low: 3840 × 2160, 8.3MP. Anything above 8.3MP is a higher resolution than 4K, but only on STILL SHOTS.
I have both (as well as Canon dslrs) and the Sony blows away the GN3 for image quality.
I have both as well and the Sony RX100ii blows the Note 3 away especially in low lighting. I basically use to take spur of the moment pics. If at an event, party, or on a trip I would definitley use the RX100ii instead.
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rx100ii is amazing, but it won't pair with the note 3, so it's slickest feature of using the phone as a remote viewfinder won't work
Have you tried the Sony software? Works great on my Note 10.1
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ShadowLea said:
Depends on the price. The Note 3 camera is downright horrible in low-light, fluorescent light and with motion.
I'm a Canon-person (Technically I'm a DSLR user), so I can't say how good that Sony camera is. But the Note 3 camera is only good in bright sunlight, so it's probably a good idea to buy an additional camera anyway if you travel a lot.
As for 4K, that's only VIDEOS. You'd be hard pressed to find a digital compact camera these days with a resolution that low. For photographs, 4K is low: 3840 × 2160, 8.3MP. Anything above 8.3MP is a higher resolution than 4K, but only on STILL SHOTS.
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If I understood him right, he's talking about video recording. A FHD is only 2K (not quite but very close), the 4K video on Note 3 is double that and there's no compacts able to record 4K video as of yet. Excluding a GoPro Black edition (which is around $400 +/- now) that records 4K @ 15fps, 4K camcorders start from around couple of thousand $$$.
4K video is a new tech and not standardized yet, so hold your horses - the video industry may decide to go another way, like it happened in a battle between BD and HD-DVD. Besides there aren't many TVs yet supporting anything higher than a FHD plus they're expensive.
Wait for this tech to mature a bit and it will also get cheaper. In the main time the 4K video on Note 3 will do the job (stock on microSD cards!)
If OP's question was whether to get a compact for stills - they the answer is yes - no phone can compete with a good compact camera and RX100 II is more than a good compact.
I'm a Sony shooter but I don't own the RX100 MkII, I DO, however, have a Canon shooter friend that owns the RX100 (1st version) and he absolutely LOVES his RX100. If you want something pocket-able then, you will NOT regret the purchase... but if you don't mind something slightly bigger, I highly recommend the NEX-5T... it literally does better in high ISOs than a lot of DSLRs out there (and the amazing thing is, while it's pretty compact, it sports an APS-C sensor!!)
With the announcement of the Z2 and 4K video I was wondering, Can the Z1 shoot in 4K? The sensors are exactly the same however there is a difference in the chip and 3Gb of RAM as opposed to 2Gb. Does this therefore limit it to shooting 1080?
WGFeeney said:
With the announcement of the Z2 and 4K video I was wondering, Can the Z1 shoot in 4K? The sensors are exactly the same however there is a difference in the chip and 3Gb of RAM as opposed to 2Gb. Does this therefore limit it to shooting 1080?
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I really hope Sony won't say that..
That could be their reason to "trick us" to buy Z2.
Apparently, S801 has 45% more power in camera operating and in total it's 15-20% faster.
Z2 has 3Gb so that could be the main two reasons for Sony to say that famous line: for the users sake, we won't add...bla ..bla.
We all know that's not true and Z1 is more than capable to record and play 4K video without any problems...
We already saw few devices with a same hardware like Z1 recording and playing 4K.
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The moment they restrict us features I dump my locked bootloader state and instantly load up a rom that supports the features I want.
And also if they do that it's honestly the last time I pay this much for a phone that is abandoned within a few months. (Feature-wise...)
funky0308 said:
I really hope Sony won't say that..
That could be their reason to "trick us" to buy Z2.
Apparently, S801 has 45% more power in camera operating and in total it's 15-20% faster.
Z2 has 3Gb so that could be the main two reasons for Sony to say that famous line: for the users sake, we won't add...bla ..bla.
We all know that's not true and Z1 is more than capable to record and play 4K video without any problems...
We already saw few devices with a same hardware like Z1 recording and playing 4K.
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Im sure someone will port it over if Sony doesn't bring it out for Z2. Like the Z1s exclusive defocus app. Whether it can handle remain to be seen, as The Acer liquid S2 with S800 and only 2 GB ram can also shoot 4k video. Unless Acer has customized and added some hardware for 4k encoding.
Let's hope it is just a software limitation which gets changed. I really want to start shooting in 4K and am not going to drop another £500+ on a Z2 or Note 3.
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4K video would be very nice.
Then I can resize it down to 1080p to make a very sharp high quality 1080p video.
Both Note3 and Acer S2 who used S800 is capable to record 4k video. But I beat it's not just the camera.apk easy porting, you'll also need to port things from kernel. The Z1/Z1c kernel missed the driver of 4k recording, ended up it won't be an easy task because difficult to get Z2 kernel sources in the near future.
Please use the existing thread HERE...
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Playing with slo-mo effects,
sorry for terrible lighting
http://youtu.be/IiF40O_WheQ
Cool, always love watching these, EVEN. From the Mrs's iphone 5s (which does a superb job).
Now if you want to do it again and need a mouth to catch those in.....give me a shout.
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Sony Z2 pre ordered.........
More Slow-Mo Effects + Video editing on the phone to see what its capable of.
http://youtu.be/oA3mofvHIvY
Take a look
shotgunfool said:
More Slow-Mo Effects + Video editing on the phone to see what its capable of.
http://youtu.be/oA3mofvHIvY
Take a look
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Nice i love watching stuff in slow mo...... hopefully they'll advance on this in future models, i wouldnt mind in a couple of years when i upgrade next, being able to shoot proper 300 fps slow mo from my phone, even something simple like a balloon popping looks awesome slowed down that much
wow you can record slow motion videos at 1440p quality thats awesome man.
my note 2 cannot record more than 480p
Hey guys!
The other day I went on a trip to Hamburg, Germany and I got to experience the "Miniatur Wunderland" (in English "Miniature Wonderland", in case your German and common sense are both lacking). It was one hell of an awesome experience. As I was walking through the modeled cities, I decided to test the 4K capabilities of my, at the time, rooted and modded Sony Xperia Z1. If you're interested, you can watch the video below:
See for yourself and let me know what you think!
Here's my opinion on 4K video:
When downscaled to 1080p the quality it looks amazing. Although I don't have a 4K monitor yet, if I do zoom in on the 4K video it looks like the details are still a bit lacking at the full resolution (of course I'd have to confirm this with a 4K monitor). In low light however, there is so much noise that the 4K video won't have any more details than a 1080p clip. But hey, what can you expect from a camera sensor that small. Apart from that, it was VERY difficult to keep the phone steady when recording, since it didn't feature any stabilizer for 4K video. But overall, you may colour me impressed!
Nice video!
I guess you must have a large capacity sd card .
spikekav said:
Nice video!
I guess you must have a large capacity sd card .
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Thanks!
As a fun fact, which may or may not be somewhat useful to some: at the Miniatur Wunderland I took 38 videocips in 4K, which are 6.11 GB in total file size.
That's not as bad as I thought initially, because I was indeed worried about the total size. Also, I recall that it never shut down due to overheating, which seems to be an issue when recording for too long. My longest clip is about 1:15 (just over a minute) long, and I recorded with minimal time in between the videos.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Sony Xperia 1 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
My initial experience is it struggles to focus when recording video
And it seriously overheats when recording 4k video for any reasonable length of time.
The 1080p video is class leading: no quibbles there. It's absolutely the best, most stable 1080p footage you can get, with brilliant immersive sound recording.
The 4k,... notsomuch. The image itself is fine - good colours and great DR for 4K but Sony really need to work on their stabilisation. The most recent update has helped but it still struggles some on the horizontal axis, making it not as stable as competitors. The EIS is not working well with the OIS.
So it's a mixed bag and one that is a software update away from fixing. But if you keep it on 1080p then you're in for a treat.
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The 1080p video is class leading: no quibbles there. It's absolutely the best, most stable 1080p footage you can get, with brilliant immersive sound recording.
The 4k,... notsomuch. The image itself is fine - good colours and great DR for 4K but Sony really need to work on their stabilisation. The most recent update has helped but it still struggles some on the horizontal axis, making it not as stable as competitors. The EIS is not working well with the OIS.
So it's a mixed bag and one that is a software update away from fixing. But if you keep it on 1080p then you're in for a treat.
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had try newest update? stabilization improved alot
look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZZAe0ztUM
xerxess said:
had try newest update? stabilization improved alot
look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsZZAe0ztUM
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I've had the June update, yes. Some improvement but it still struggles not to jump on the horizontal axis, which it still does. Fine if you're not walking but really distracting if you are.
There is actually an answer to the problem, I've discovered - so long as you're not wedded to the SteadyCam effect: switch stabilisation off entirely.
Yes, really.
The stabilisation toggle seems to apply only to the EIS not the OIS, which is automatic. As it's the EIS not playing well with the OIS that is causing the issue, switching it off actually fixes it.
Your videos no longer "float": it looks like you're walking. But you're walking,... Smoothly.
@Timaustin2000 is there any way to turn it off for CinemaAlta app?
jackfrost3821 said:
@Timaustin2000 is there any way to turn it off for CinemaAlta app?
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I believe that OIS is locked in the Cinema Pro app, in that neither EIS or OIS are working. Apparently it's so that you can get better results on a tripod but I do wish they'd add it as an option - not everyone can justify buying a gimbal.
Hey guys,
I shot this video on our beloved Xperia 1.
As the video description says, I'm not a pro. In fact this is my first time shooting travel/cinematic video. Got encouraged because of how Sony advertised this(these) camera(s). This device inspires creativity.
Anyway, great potential in this thing to be out there at the top of smartphone camera game.
Please share your thoughts.
jackfrost3821 said:
Hey guys,
I shot this video on our beloved Xperia 1.
As the video description says, I'm not a pro. In fact this is my first time shooting travel/cinematic video. Got encouraged because of how Sony advertised this(these) camera(s). This device inspires creativity.
Anyway, great potential in this thing to be out there at the top of smartphone camera game.
Please share your thoughts.
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Greta video, you used the cinema pro app?
BTW, the firmware update is supposed to enchantment stabilization when recording on 4k
snake218 said:
Greta video, you used the cinema pro app?
BTW, the firmware update is supposed to enchantment stabilization when recording on 4k
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Yes, I used Cinema Pro app for all clips before latest firmware update. Also I used my roommate's Snoppa Atom gimbal, it was struggling a bit to stabilize phone of Sony Xperia1's size. Both previous firmware and gimbal did not help much with stabilization.
Hello, is there anyone that knows how can I record a 1080P video with 120fps? I tried some apps, they only can record with 60fps .
Thanks～
Just been to see Metallica. Took this video on my Xperia 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LilEirkBxRM.
The sound quality is awful.
I wish device supported 4K 60fps or CinemaPro app let us shoot 1080p 60/120fps videos. Slowing them to 50% would make "cinematic" video experience far better.
Mackay53 said:
You've already posted this spam and the thread got closed.
We've already established you're a fanboy so your opinions aren't being paid attention to so stop wasting your time
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In fairness, that comparison tool does show that the Xperia 1 captures some pretty great detail.
turbobork said:
In fairness, that comparison tool does show that the Xperia 1 captures some pretty great detail.
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It's good quality but it's not the best, especially when comparing with those 2 and against a previous generation phone....
can wait to buy xperia 1
Xperia have BEST video camera is other nivel
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xzpremium1976 said:
Xperia have BEST video camera is other nivel
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I don't think you've said that before, oh wait yes you have, only about 1,000 times
kamalaggi said:
Just been to see Metallica. Took this video on my Xperia 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LilEirkBxRM.
The sound quality is awful.
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Horrid. The HTC U11 and U12+ easily beat that. This is very disappointing.